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gearcoin:
Ignorant ! I thought u will comment on the violence chapter i quoted from your bible or you did not see them.
If you will believe on the post you wrote, then you must believe in this also:
Song of Songs 4:5 "Your two breasts are like two fawns, like twin fawns of a gazelle that browse among the lilies."
Or this:
Women's vaginas taste like "wine" (Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9).
now, dont you think this is very worse?

Haven't I commented on your socalled violence? I did ask you some questions the answers of which would lead to the fact that the wars in the Bible are nations against another enemy nations and they were conventional as it is still happening today. But for that of islam, it was a religious terrorist group headed by Muhammad and that is why the world governments are against his followers these modern days.

Muhammad wouldn't have succeeded in establishing islam in today's civilized world as all governments would have crushed it just as efforts are being made to crush ISIL, BOKO HARAM, ALSHARBAB etc.

You lied, there is no Song of Songs in the Bible. What we have is Song of Solomon.

The Bible is a book that could only be understood by spiritual minds. Solomon backslided in the later part of his life as one of his many wives drew him to idolatry. We know how to separate his writings when he was with God and when his heart was drawn to idols. If you are referring to him, those unholy words were spoken in his fallen state. The Bible is say it as it is and would not cover any evil deed or sayings of anyone. May I remind you that Solomon was not a prophet, he was a king. Higher morality and transparent holiness are expected from a prophet than a king.

tartar9:


Eyahh..

please tell me this is meant to be one dry joke

What is the joke?

If you believe the difference between Yahweh and allahh is just a matter of language, why should it be difficult for you to do?

The word ''God'' is not arabic but english, yet you say God freely, then why is it difficult for you to say Yahweh or Jehoval meaning God in your solat?

The truth is allahh is not Yahweh the true God, hence your inability to say ''Yahweh Akbar''

gearcoin:
You cant twist quran the way u like.
And beside, if you will twist it, then you must believe in these also:
NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the
Israelites as booty. Thirty-two are set aside (to
be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord.
DT 2:33-34 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Sihon.
DT 3:6 The Israelites utterly destroy the men,
women, and children of Og.
DT 7:2 The Lord commands the Israelites to
"utterly destroy" and show "no mercy" to those
whom he gives them for defeat.
DT 20:13-14 "When the Lord delivers it into your
hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for
the women, the children, the livestock and
everything else in the city, you may take these as
plunder for yourselves."
DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is
giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive
anything that breathes."
DT 21:10-13 With the Lord's approval, the
Israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women"
from the enemy camp to be their captive wives.
If, after sexual relations, the husband has "no
delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go.

Guy ! Nobody will ask you to stop your action. You will be surely tired to do so as others stoped and repent. Just continue.... i will like to see your BP getting high.

I have no knowledge of those who stopped and repented. May be you could name them.

But friend, why are you not addressing the post but term it as an insult. A statement becomes an insult if it is not the actual deed of the person in question. Muhammad did those things as stated.

Were they religious wars?

Were the warriors a religious group killing people for not accepting Judaism like that of Muhammad?

Was war prescribed for them at all times as it is for muslims, which they are doing till date?

With those questions you should know that the Jews were not a religious terrorist groug like Muhammad and his jihadists.

Moses no doubt was a Jew as Jesus was according to the Bible. These people were prophets of the Almighty Yahweh.

Many years later, Muhammad's allahh also claimed both of them were his prophets, creating the impression that Yahweh is the same as allahh. If the muslims believe they are the same, for just one week, always say in your solat ''Yahweh Akbar'' instead of ''Allahu Akbar'' afterall you are referring to the same God.

You will not have done that for two days before you will realize the difference.

Try it.

gimakon:
We know, but do they tell you what follows after the converting? Here is your answer

http://www.google.com/search?q=british %2B " why i left islam"&hl=en-GB

So don't be stupìd.

They leave and come back to Christianity.

Not still convinced, kindly read so you don't bring further doom on yourself

http://howtobetruemuslim..com.ng/p/why-i-left-islam-behrouz-islam-under.html?m=1

Now how many people leave islam every year, statistics show 6million read and digest

http://www.virtueonline.org/6-million-muslims-leave-islam-every-year

Still not convinced, in Africa for one 16,000 run away

Here read http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm

And brace yourself for more

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Population

Now that's why they fight like lions to kill everyone who doesn't follow their respective satanic teachings.

Great !!!

yazach:
Allhamdulillah, despite their blackmailing, the following people embrace Islam, the religion of peace

How does this refute the immoralities of Muhammad?

Those you claim embraced islam must have done so not knowing the FALSEHOOD of the religion.

yazach:
Around 5,000 British People Convert To Islam Every Year, Theguardian
despite your blackmailing

How many muslims are delivered from the power of allahh on daily basis?

yazach:
Allhamdulillah, despite their blackmailing, the following people embrace Islam, the religion of peace

People will always be deceived.

Jesus warned against lions in sheep clothing. He must be talking about people like the muslims.

yazach:
What a peaceful religion. Jazzakumullahu khaira

As it is happening in the North East of Nigeria, France, Syria, Cameroon etc.

gearcoin:
he Qur'an says (Surat Al-'An`am [6:108]):

And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah , lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge. Thus We have made pleasing to every community their deeds. Then to their Lord is their return, and He will inform them about what they used to do.

In other words, muslim should not insult other religions: if we do, then they may retaliate, and when they do that, you've actually harmed them by making them do something out of ignorance. Since Muslims are meant to be interested in guiding and helping people, this is detrimental to our greater goals. Of course, every community thinks it is on the right track, so it is for Allah to judge between them when the time comes.

Allah also says (Surat Al-Muzzammil verse 10):

And be patient over what they [the non-Muslims insulting him and Islam] say and avoid them with gracious avoidance.

So insulting them is simply not part of the Islamic ethos. Muslims should not behave in the same way non-Muslims do.

The same allahh did more than insulting other religion, in fact he said they should be killed (Quran 9:29).



Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

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Jesus said looking at a woman lustfully amounts to committing adultery: [Mat. 5:27- 28] Ye have heard that it was said by them of the old time, Thou shall not commit adultery:
But I say unto you, that whosoever WHOSOEVER LOOKETH ON A WOMAN TO LUST AFTER HER HATH COMMITTED ADULTERY WITH HER ALREADY IN HIS HEART.

But Muhammad was looking on women lustfully as it was the comfort of his eyes. In fact he said allahh revealed to him that all men must commit adultery:

Abu Aahuraira reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying: Verily Allah has fixed the
very portion of adultery which a man will indulge in and which he of necessity must commit. The adultery
of the eye is the lustful look and the adultery of the tongue is the licentious speech, the heart desire
and yearns, which the parts may or may not put into effect (Sahih Muslim, Book 033, Number 6421 & 6422).

There the prophet of islam received revelation from his allahh, making it compulsory for muslims to commit adultery and that allahh had already fixed the number of adultery a muslim must commit. This is a clear pointer to the fact that Muhammad's allahh who made a sinful habit compulsory for his faithfuls cannot be the true God.

That satan gave Muhammad power for 30 women was a kind of relief for the Jews and Christians leaving in arabia at that time as it reduced the time he had for killing them. He would most of the time be busy with women.

Annunaki:
I think the topic should be "mohamed's lust for women" as the concept "Love" is completely alien to mohamed.

No, the hadith says ''LOVE'' but a thorough study of it shows it is LUST as in ''the comfort of my eyes''. So let's leave it at that.

aminusanti

All the islamic ritual listed in this thread, tell me where they were observed by Jewish prophets after Abraham. Tell me also where Jesus instructed the people to observe them.

The truth is, those islamic rituals belong to idolaters and allahh wanting to pitch mankind against the true God incorporated them into islam.

The Prophet [ Sallallahu wa
alaihi wassalam] said :"Three
things from your world have
been made beloved to me:
Women, perfume, and prayer
the comfort of my eyes" [
Source: Ahamd Ibn Hanbal,
3:128 ]

Muhammad acknowledged the fact that he loved women. His love for women in that context is womanizing as it did not extend to men. ''The comfort of my eyes'' is another statement for ''The lust of my eyes''. Should a true prophet be lusting after women?

His love for women made him to exceed the limit of four wives allahh permitted a muslim to marry. Instead of the maximum of four wives, he had about eleven. Good leadership is by example. Since Muhammad is the first muslim to disobey the revelations he received himself by marrying more than permitted, what sense does it make to follow such a leader. Islam is the only religion where the leader is above the law. No doubt, something or many things are wrong with islam.

Turning to allahh, why should he limit muslims' wives to only 4 when he gave his prophet power for 30 women. The only 'prophet' to be so gifted. Great! Did he expect him to snatch other people's wives? No wonder he was also permitted to sleep with slave women, a permission to rape. Despite the permission for muslims to marry up to four wives they are also allowed to sleep with slaves, meaning four wives are not enough. What happens now that there are no slaves? Didn't allahh know there would be no more slaves in the future? What would now complement the four wives for muslims, marry more than four? So many holes to pick in islam.

Narrated Qatada:
Anas bin Malik said, “The Prophet
used to visit all his wives in a
round, during the day and night
and they were eleven in number.”
I asked Anas, “Had the Prophet
the strength for it?” Anas replied,
“We used to say that the Prophet
was given the strength of thirty
(men).” And Sa’id said on the
authority of Qatada that Anas had
told him about nine wives only
not eleven (Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 5,
Number 268.

Annunaki:
Dunce you should be more concerned about the hot hell you are going to join mohamed and allaah in.

Yes, quran says muslims are going to hell: Quran3:185, 19:68-72.

Not that alone, those who God showed the vision of heaven saw Muhammad in hell. He is the only 'prophet' in hell right now.

If muslims do not repent, they too will join him in hell very soon.

malvisguy212:
the old testament were part of the scripture BUT This does not mean, however,
that everything in the Scriptures
applies to us as law

Through Moses,God gave a law to Israel. We can learn much from that law. But it was never given to the church of Christ as a law.

The purpose of the old testament is for christians to learn of God plans:

Romans 15:4
“For whatever things were written
BEFORE were written for our learning, that we through the patience and comfort of the Scriptures might have
HOPE”

Although the Old and New Testaments together form the Scriptures, the New Covenant SUPERSEDE and REPLACE the Old Covenant.

Here what God say in Jeremiah:

Jeremiah 31:31-34
31
“The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “WHEN I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT WITH THE PEOPLE OF ISREAL
and with the people of Judah.
32 It will NOT BE LIKE THE COVENANT I MADE WITH THEIR ANCESTORS when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to[ a] them,[b]” declares the Lord.
33“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time,” declares the Lord. “I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God, and they will be my people.34No longer will they teach their neighbor,or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares the Lord.“For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more.”

This new covenant was fullfiled in the new testament.

When I say " the New Covenant SUPERSEDE the old " this is what I mean.

The ten commandments no longer apply as law because in the doctrine of Christ they are completely superseded. In the Sermon on the Mount Jesus
demands much more of us than the ten commandments. He not only forbids murder and adultery, but also the CAUSE, hate and lust. We are to love God with ALL OUR MIND, if you love God you will keep His commandments, so the key word is LOVE. No wonder Jesus give the TWO great commandments involving love God and your fellow human. So, love for God
and fellowman, not just because there is a command: “You shall not kill”.

Hope you understand now?

Nice one.