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I disagree, please show me proof of any Nigerian who's visa was cancelled because of the order. IT will be because of immigration fraud or if you have visited one of the countries on the watch list and you are a concern.

The average and ordinary Nigerian will not be impacted and given the number of flights and people leaving Nigeria to America daily, only 4 people turned back in two weeks is a very very small proportion so her warning is unwarranted. I'm sure even people from visa counties like the UK would have had similar number turned back in 2 weeks.

greenpasture:
Trumps executive order included " extreme vetting" Immigration officials can use discretion to void a visa. America has always reserved the ri to turn people back at the gates. What is different is how it is currently being exercised.

There was absolutely nothing wrong with Dabiri's warning. A person in her position has significant off the record back channel chat with foreign consular officials. These non attributable chats can reveal current attitudes and interpretations of immigration.

She was right to warn and the accuracy of the notice has been borne out. Let not turn what is administrative into a political tennis match.

She did well by Nigeria.

Yes there have been some minor cases of green card holders being detained but if it happened after the last order was over ruled by the judge then how can it be due to trump's order?
Even during Obama and any other president green card holders have been detained if there is a reason to do so.

With the new executive order it has been made very clear green card holders and people with existing visas will not be affected, and it clearly only targets 6 specific countries (Iraq has been removed as the Iraqi government put in place extra measures from their end). I agree some green card holders were initially detained when the first order was issued and that was due to the abrupt manner it was implemented amid confusion, but it was later confirmed green card holders would not be impacted.

I still don't see how any of this warrants a travel advice from Abike Dabiri. She claims 4 Nigerians were sent back in the last 2 weeks, I am very sure it was not because of the executive order but something else especially as she says they cancelled their visa at the airport which suggest immigration fraud. This always happened even during Obama's time.

The only situation I can see a Nigerian being impacted by the executive order is if you have travelled to one of the countries on the watch list. This will definitely flag you up for extra questions and you may be sent back.

davidif:
Dude, there have been several instances of legal residents of the U.S who went outside the country only to be detained when they returned. The other day I read about a popular Argentinian artist who has lived in New York for 10 years and went back home to visit only to be detained for 14 hours at the airport when he got back. He wasn't even allowed to communicate with anyone via phone the entire time not even a lawyer. After everything, he was deported back to Buenos Aires.

This is just bullshit.

The previous executive order wasn't in effect 2 weeks ago hence if 4 Nigerians were truly turned back it wasn't because of trumps executive order but for something else.

Also with the number of flights that fly from Nigeria to America everyday we can agree more than 4 people flew to America which means majority entered except 4.

I wouldn't be surprised if their visa was cancelled for immigration fraud or something. Dabiri's travel advice is irresponsible and just scare mongering.

Besides the guy has been clear of his intentions and has never targeted legal migration from Nigeria.

The previous executive order wasn't in effect 2 weeks ago hence if 4 Nigerians were truly turned back it wasn't because of trumps executive order but for something else.

Also with the number of flights that fly from Nigeria to America everyday we can agree more than 4 people flew to America which means majority entered except 4.

I wouldn't be surprised if their visa was cancelled for immigration fraud or something. Dabiri's travel advice is irresponsible and just scare mongering.

Besides the guy has been clear of his intentions and has never targeted legal migration from Nigeria.

Benjom:
This Trump guy wicked sha o.

Just imagine you've said your 'bye-byes'... your family and the whole street have killed a cow for you... you've even 'gbenshin' that girl wey dey always do shakara for your area just because she heard you're travelling to yankee only for the US authority to send you back on the next available plane. Chai!!! If na me, I go kuku ma travel down to my village, 'Umuhu'. From there, organize my departure to 'Ouagadougou', the capital of Burkina Faso

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Given their population of only 30 million their reserves are still better than Nigerians on per capita basis

2black1:
I think we should be grateful that Nigeria's case is not this bad.
Venezuela's foreign reserves down to only 10billion dollars!

http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/01/news/economy/venezuela-cash/index.html

I guess a building being ugly is relative. I wouldn't consider the Harold Washington library to be ugly and it has such amazing sculpture details.

http://www.architecture.org/architecture-chicago/buildings-of-chicago/building/harold-washington-library/

RoyalBlak007:
Harold Washington Library, Chicago, Illinois

Located south of the Loop ‘L’, at 400 S. State Street in Chicago, Illinois, the Harold Washington Library is a weird mixture of Neoclassical features and glass-and-steel Mannerism.

http://list25.com/25-ugliest-buildings-in-the-world-that-you-have-to-see-to-believe/5/

Paige6533 My advice move on and focus on your future.

If time goes and you guys are still in love as you say and want to get married you can consider that and he may be able to come back but as you are 20 you are too young to be getting tied up in such issues and losing focus.

Also you say in your post if not that you were 20 you would leave with him to Nigeria but you also say he has nothing going on for him in Nigeria. Why then will you think of going back with him?

I think it's lust not love you are feeling and time will tell. As I said if overtime you guys still have the same love for each other the you can consider marriage when you are older and more settled education and career wise.

Are you claiming the state of our public schools today is what it was when our so called leaders attended?

If the medical hospitals and facilities are as great as you say why are our governors and president sill flying abroad to give birth or for treatment?

https://www.nairaland.com/3626044/rachael-dickson-quadruplets-arrive-nigeria

Pidgin2:
Hey, stop listening to stories on the Internet try to get actual experience.
I have discovered that most people writing bad things about Nigeria are the frustrated folks who would rather cross to Europe through Lybia than to be productive to themselves.

You say we don't have running water here? Well, that's a big lie, we do. And if anyone does not then they can supply their own water by digging a bore hole for themselves or their communities (no one pays tax for this and you get constant water for life once this is done). They can form groups to achieve this if funds are limited.

Public schools are totally free here too and most of our leaders today attended these schools, people can also make choices based on their budgets on the kind of schools they want their kids to attend, they can also home school if they chose. As for light, we were paying only N87/ltr for fuel to run our gen in 2015, I believe we can get back to that again with good leadership. Some places do have good light supply. Alternative energy like solar and wind is being used privately.


Alternative medicine here is an option which people use (just like in China and India) our grand parents lived very long too. As for Western medicine, some states do give free basic health care to pregnant women and children under 5. Most government and state hospitals are heavily subsidized

Nigeria is not hell, contrary to what you might think so someone earning N400K a month can expand his wealth greatly in an almost tax free country. Everything depends on him and his God

That is Gary Indiana. When Jackson was born there it was a thriving city, but Gary was a city developed by the Steel industry specifically US Steel and it derived is economic dependence on that company. When US Steel moved form Gary due to globalisation, China etc., the city literally collapsed with many of the residents moving away.

It is pretty much a ghost town now with lots of crime. Shame.

FrankNetter:
The King of Pop himself! Mj was born and brought up in those white houses. It was just so ironical that someone as great as MJ grew up in these streets, I saw the school he attended, I saw the place he and his siblings had their first concerts. The sad thing about it all was that as rich as MJ was, his "village" was basically in ruins.

I was in awe at being so close to where someone as great as MJ was born but at the same time, I was sad he didn't do enough to help his neighborhood. In the end, it was a bitter-sweet feeling.

RIP Mj, but you no carry your people along,

Exactly, and he made it clear he was after illegal immigrants from Mexico especially those who commit crime so why woul ile a woman who has always made sure she has a US visa for years be upset?

The press are very good at twisting thjngs and causing mass hysteria.

Toks2008:
I really don't know what the fuss is all about...he made it clear before he was elected what he would do...he was democratically elected and he is presently fulfilling his promises...abeg what is the hulabaloo about?

True. She says she has always had a US visa for years which means she has always followed the correct legal procedure and abides by the rules, but she is angry Trump wants to stop illegal immigration from Mexico?

SalamRushdie:
Very Good , the US doesn't need her type she is very irrational ....Go Trump I Salam Rushdie is behind you

You really do not understand how the financial system works. Even with a green card you will need to build solid credit history and for a $250k loan hmmm serious collateral. Coming as a foreigner I don't even see how you will qualify for such a loan.

It's a different level from a $5k credit card.

Osahon7:
I understand what you saying bro, but I still maintain my stand that he should have gotten a medical degree first! except he was never passionate about the whole thing! Thanks bro the comment! I need a cosigner for the $250k loan because I don't have a PR or citizenship But what if when I arrive, I look for a Nigerian-American Babe to marry?? won't that give me automatic GC? With my GC, I need no cosigner for the loan!
call me a desperate dude no wahala but am guy who is ready to go the EXTRA EXTRA mile to achieve his American Dream!

In that case now she has seen his true character before marriage she should make the decision to leave him and everyone move on.

She stated clearly she doesn't love him anymore so going ahead with the marriage doesn't make sense unless she is under pressure due to what people will say.

Talk2Bella:
I am not

she fell in love with lies

now she's realised it

Exactly. And she doesn't have to leave him secretly, she is an adult and should make her decision to leave him and stick with it.

If he is exhibiting all this now it will only get worse after marriage and besides she already stated she doesn't love him anymore so why condemn yourself to a loveless marriage?

MrWhaley:
You see all these traits in him and you are still coming online to seek approval about dumping his lying, deceitful ass?? Whatever happened to common sense?


And Talk2Bella is busy talking about Love. What kind of Blind love is that?
Pftt!

The only people who may face extra questioning et are people who are from the 7 countries listed in the Executive Order, or if you have travelled to such places.

As a Nigerian coming form Nigeria you will not face any issues.

kolgs:
I will like to ask if there is anyone that travel this week to US, and to know if there is any problem at the point of entrance. thanks

No he has not banned Nigerians applying for a visa.

Your best source o information things like the fees etc should be the US embassy or USCIS website. if they have increased the price they will post it there.

shilam:
Good day everyone is it true that trump have ban nigerians not to apply for america visa?...pls has anyone apply for america visa in this year? Is there any changes on B1/B2 visa fees...

Good for Americans. The H1 b visa has been a used red black and blue by Indian outsourcing companies who pretty much act as body shops.

No wonder all the tech companies are anti trump.

There are border points but not all the border is watched though it may be rough terrain. Same as not all the border with Mexico is protected

CanadianNurse:
Thank you.... So how did the Ghanaian immigrant that trekked into Canada from the USA (of frostbite as a result of this) manage to beat the CBP AND CBSA TEAM

I totally comprehend what you are saying and my point remains your argument is mute because very few graduates earn N500k in Nigeria.

Yes hypothetically a graduate warning N500k in Nigeria is better than an illegal earning $2k in America but please tell me how many graduates you know who earn N500k monthly in Nigeria hence why your argument is invalid.

If you want to compare nigeria to America compare like for like. Compare banking salary to banking salary. Compare doctor salary to doctor salary etc don't compare an extreme case in Nigeria to an average illegal immigrant hussle.

cosade:
I am really surprised that so many graduates are finding it difficult to understand a simple hypothesis.

It's simple!

I said a graduate earning N500,000 monthly in Nigeria is better off than an illegal (graduate) immigrant earning $2,000 monthly in US.

Does that not mean that if you're a graduate earning less than N500,000 monthly in Nigeria then an illegal (graduate) immigrant earning $2,000 monthly in US, is better off?

This comparison is mute, how many graduates in Nigeria can earn N500k.

And besides don't forget the $2k a month the guy mentioned was for someone illegal and not a graduate in America with the right papers.

Eg Deloitte in the US starts audit graduates on around $55k per annum and for consulting about $70k. Are you telling me most graduates in Nigeria are better off than that?

cosade:
You're either quoting someone else or quoting me wrongly.

My submission was that a graduate earning N500,000 (half of the equivalent of $2,000) monthly, in Nigeria would be better off than a graduate working illegally in US on $2,000 a month. And I still stand by this.

FrankNetter

See how they destroyed your thread lol. Abeg open another one (part II) and continue your enjoyable story

He said, “The coffers are largely empty.

“Over two weeks, over 500m dalasi ($11 million) were withdrawn” by Jammeh, adding that “As we take over, the government of The Gambia is in financial distress.”

Not justifying the theft, but coffers empty after $11m?...

Firstly I am not celebrating republicans, and secondly the some republicans saying they do not believe Obama was American was just them being silly, but are you using that to justify liberals protesting, destroying property and looting?

Lucasbalo:
No one supports civil unrest. The protesters that are destroying properties will be arrested and prosecuted. Meanwhile, civil protests is as American as Apple Pie. A lot of the Republicans you are celebrating now didn't even recognize that Obama was born in America and they thought of Obama as illegitimate President then. So calm down. To the Democrats, it's pay back time.

Exactly.

OBAGADAFFI:
They will call the conservative protesters Racist and Misogynist. Simple

Well good luck to them.

I didn't support Trump but he won and I find the attitude of the liberals protesting silly. If conservatives protested when Obama won or if Hilary won these same people protesting will criticise them.

kalindaminda:
Exactly. And it's only getting worse.

Well I do not think they are being kept away because they are scared. Trump does not strike me as a guy who really cares if you are protesting or not.

Think of the high profile event and the amount of high profile targets that are there and how easy a protest can be used to launch an attack. Keeping them away is more a security decision rather than because they are scared. They have been protesting since election day anyway haven't they?

kalindaminda:
It's not the security I commented on, it's how scared they are of the massive protests heading their way

Trying to keep them away from the cameras so as not to embarrass the Orange Nazi

His security is pretty much similar to Obama and would have been same as Clinton if she won.

kalindaminda:
Damn he's so scared of his own citizens

I don't blame him, Americans hate him

While I agree about risk taking, encouraging people to blindly risk money in Ponzi schemes is not the right lesson or approach.

bettercreature:
My friends dad refunded over 4.2million to all his children who lost their money to MMM and When they ask him why he is doing so,he simply said youth who take more calculated risk are more likely to be more successfull than those who never want to part with their money beside he doesnt want his children to be hyperthensive because he might end up spending more in hospital

What is the joke there?

While I am not a fan of Buhari I don't see the issue with him taking vacation as long as there is cover for him and things continue to work while he is away.

Besides wit the myriad of issues facing Nigeria it makes sense he takes some time to recharge every so often rather than work till he breaks down leading to more serious implications for the country.

blueprint77:
this country is a joke.

H-1B cap exempt jobs are good given you do not have to deal with the over subscribed quota system, but as you may know there are certain requirements to qualify as a H-1B exempt job or employer.

So especially if you are in the STEM field getting a job with a non-profit research organisation or university is a good route to get a h-1B visa and later on a green card.


H1B Cap Exempt Employers: Who Are they?

The H1B cap does not apply to organizations filing the H1B petitions if they are institutions of higher education (or related non-profit entities), non-profit research organizations, and government research organizations.

Many foreign nationals are not aware that these companies and organizations are exempt from the H1B cap and can sponsor an H1B visa any time of the year.

1.University
2.Government
3.Non profit organizations
4.NGO
5.Hospitals

obinna5000:
What about H-1B cap exempt jobs?