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This has got nothing to do with mockery but simly following their laws.

Even Americans who are illegal in the UK will be deported and vice versa so we need to stop acting like this is targeted at Nigerians.

Nigeria also has every right to enforce it's laws and deport any illegal immigrants in the country. Nigerians and other nationals who are in the UK legally are in no danger of being deported.

Bugatie:
So Nigeria has become a mockery in the comity of nations that UK will wake up and depart our country men just like that.

And one wonders the gain of Buhari's continous trip abroad since assumption of office.

Do we still have government in this country?

Calm down and look at it logically. Put aside sentiments because he is your friend. You say he had a gun because everything is hot everywhere, really? I lived in the UK over 10 years before moving to the US and I never had or know any one who had a gun so if he got a gun illegally then he committed an offence and is a criminal full stop.

I sympathize with him as your friend but that doesn't mean what he did is right.

Yes the UK have every right to send him back to Nigeria if he cannot get his act together and be a law abiding citizen so i don't get this entitlement mentality you have that the Nigerian government should not have accepted him.

He is in the US now right, please tell go commit another offence

Shymm3x:
Brev, can you read? Everything I posited is self-explanatory but cos you talk more than you listen, or probably cos comprehension isn't ya forte you keep jumping everywhere.

A lot of you are just terrible human beings and the only thing you came on the thread for is basically to gloat over the mishap of others and laugh at their expense.

I've a friend who was sent to naij last year despite the fact that he has been in the UK from year 2 in school, as a kid. He also has a kid (had the kid at age 19). He was the only one born in naij in his family. All cos he was arrested with a firearm for trying to protect himself - due to how hot everywhere was. He was never an illegal immigrant but his legal status was revoked by the home office cos he was deemed a threat to the society. He paid his debt to the society. Finished Uni with a 2.1 degree and his probation officer certified that he had moved on from that lifestyle. Yet the home office kept troubling him. Even after his legal status was revoked, he went to court three times and he won, yet the home office kept re-appealing. Last year they just took him to Nigeria cos fvcking Nigerian government allowed it to happen.

The only thing that saved him was cos he also has an Irish passport his mum got from him time ago and he moved to America with that. If not for that he'd still be in Nigeria now. Regardless, he can't come to the UK to see his kid. And there are loads of people like him who have been messed up the same way.

Listen, I don't know what you want - just go away. And next time don't jump into every discourse to expose ya ignorance.

I'm out.

You want me to Cite example of minor deported alone or with parents?

I never said minors are deported alone but anyway have fun and don't insulting people simply because they disagree with you.

Shymm3x:
I'm sorry, since you can cite any example, I'll have to end the conversation here.

Cheers.

Where in my post did I say minors were deported alone? I said they will be deported with their parents if they were being deported as illegals.

The UK not deporting minors is on compassionate grounds not because they are legal and while some are able to regularise, many usually have issues later on.

Anyway where in the UK do you stay?

Shymm3x:
Cite one case where a minor has ever been deported from the UK alone. Just one.

If you can do that, I'll oblige you with a discourse.

Now we would have had a dialogue if your response started from the "In my post" line from your post below and not with stfu and all the other stuff you said.

Now regarding those Children aged 1-7, because you are a minor does not make you a legal immigrant in the UK. Even if the child is born in the UK and none of his parents are either citizens or permanent residents that child is not a UK citizen and can be deported with his family. There are ofcourse cases where the UKBA will apply leniency in some cases due to circumstances but that does not mean because a child is a minor he cannot be deported, if his family is being deported then he will to.

Secondly you say people in the UK who naturalize as citizens can be deported if they commit an offence. While that is a power the Home secretary has, it has only been used 37 times so far and mostly in the case of citizens who get involved in terrorism etc. It is for cases where there are very serious consequences to the person being or returning to the UK.

I do agree however that it is different for people on permanent residences who commit crimes, the type of crime and length of imprisonment can bar you from getting citizenship from a few years to forever and even in some cases be deported. My point is when they applied for and received LPR status they were made aware of the conditions which they accepted, and also this is not peculiar to the UK. Even in the US the likes a criminal record can derail application to stay in the country.

Now if you disagree with anything I posted above feel free to come back with a rebuttal about why you think I a wrong without any insults. I don't know it all and same with you so through dialogue we learn from each other.

Also you keep saying you doubt I have never been to the UK. How do you know that?

Shymm3x:
What type of dialogue were you trying to have when you quoted me and started "correcting" what you're ignorant about?

In my post, I made reference of "age 1-7" and I said they were never illegal immigrants. If you understand the UK laws, you would know that minors aren't considered to be illegal immigrants and once they get to age 16, they'll get N.I cards posted to them. And after that, when they're old enough, they can always apply to the home office to get whatever they need.

Also, I was alluding to people in their mid-late 20s who spent all their lives in the UK and they had passports and were traveling everywhere before they got entangled in the madness that messed them up. My post is self-explanatory to anyone who lives in the UK. You don't live here and I doubt you have ever been to the UK. So why jump into the discourse and try to correct what you know nothing about?

Well I guess you can tell I have never lived there and know nothing. As I said it's a public forum and you posted in an open forum about a topic everyone is commenting on. I disagree with your post and mentioned why hence no need for insults. You can always post back why you disagree with me. It's called dialogue and if you have lived in the UK and know all about it like you claim you will know how to have a matured conversation with people.

Shymm3x:
It's not about disagreeing, it's about trying to correct what I posited like you know about the UK than I do when you have never lived in the country.

I was chatting to jay and he can relate. So why jump into it and expose ya ignorance?

And what is the ignorant crap may I ask?

In a public forum when someone posts something you disagree with you make your point as a matured adult instead of resorting to insults.

Shymm3x:
When you don't know something, ask questions next time.

Don't quote me with ignorant crap.

Are you done with the insults?

Shymm3x:
Fam, STFU and stop jumping into a discourse you don't understand.

Sometimes, it's always better to listen than open ya mouth.

Run along.

While it is shame, we need to be honest and admit being in the UK for however long does not make you a legal immigrant. Let's call a spade a spade and stop putting emotions into it. They are the responsibility of the Nigerian government not the UK government.

Also this does not only apply to Nigerians but all illegal immigrants including non EU European countries so all the posts about UK hating Nigeria is ridiculous.

Shymm3x:
This falls on the Nigerian government for accepting them. It is unlawful to deport folks like that on a chartered flight.

A lot of the folks they have been sending back to Nigeria since the Tories came to power have been in the UK since they were kids, and they also have kids. All they know is the UK and they are not illegal immigrants. A lot of them just committed serious crimes and once you have been to prison for more than 18months now, if you are not born in the UK - the home office will cancel ya legal status.

A few people I grew up with have also been sent back cos of jail and they were never illegal immigrants. Nigeria is to blame. How these folks will assimilate into a country they haven't been to since they were between age 1-7 is still a mystery to me.

Do you really believe all your wrote there? You make it sound like Putin is a saint

RevDesmondJuju:
I see some boko bastards are rejoicing over this....

Well, this has already backfired on the Turks as their currency took a major hit.

I know Erdogan has a hard on for ISIS and is having wet dreams of becoming the new Sultan, but what he doesn't know is that Russia fights dirty.

The illegal oil trade between Turkey and the Islamic State is why Turkey of all people dared to shoot a Russian jet. And I also know for a fact that the Turkish president is a confirmed boko.

Putin will react viciously and when he does I don't want to hear any boko complain

This is just a load of rubbish. Saw the article and it was funny how people were thanking God lol.

Commonwealth does not allow you stay in a country illegally and besides the UK is not targeting Nigerians but all illegal immigrants so this woman calling it genocide is ridiculous.

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My earliest memories of Nigeria Airways is with the green livery as well but if you look closely near the front of the plane it says Nigeria Airways.

damton:
I'm not sure if that airliner belongs to Nigerian Airways

He cannot apply for H1b visa, only a company who employs him can apply on his behalf which means he needs to get a job with a company willing to sponsor him first.

I wouldn't even go into the difficulty of getting the visa assuming he gets an employer with the issue annual limits which are not enough for the number of applicants.

dorisuncle:
Try H1b visa. That's much Better since u have finished your course, ok

I totally agree and imagine him insulting another candidates looks with the way he looks. Lol

I don't even see the Republican party rallying around Trump so you are right he is just after the attention.

What do you do when you are a bored billionaire? Run for president to gain attention by saying ridiculous things. Lol

Lucasbalo:
Trump is an egotistical Buffon who is well known for his rants. Being following his crazy rants for almost 30 years. He's not going to win and he knows that. He just love the attention. He's a blowhard.

He already lost when he called Mexicans and Latina rapists.

Ioannes:
and that is why he lost the election come 2016.

The UK will not and can not deport legal immigrants. The deportation policy is for illegal immigrants. And it is not targeted at Nigerians alone but all illegal immigrants even those from non EU European countries.
Even if you are American and illegal in the UK you will face deportation so let's stop acting like it's a witch hunt against Nigeria.

victorazy:
They are not there illegally that am sure.

What has deporting illegal immigrants have to do with treating Nigerians well?

acunon:
I so much hate this Uk of a country, they dnt even treat we Nigerians well.

Just a point of correction, America did not shift their oil purchase from nigeria to Iran, they became net exporters of oil due to shale and had no need to buy as much as they used to.

Iran has not even started exporting oil yet as the sanctions are still in process of being lifted.

The impact of extra oil from Iran has yet to hit and the likes of Nigeria, Venezuela etc will feel it the most because Saudi Arabia will continue to pump oil out at lower prices to maintain market share in anticipation of when oil prices will recover which I don't think it will, at least not to the heights of over $100 a barrel.

BTW the fall in oil prices is affecting all oil companies globally not just Nigeria. Many of the oil majors are either suspending or cancelling expansion projects due to falling demand.

Yksoul:
THIS ECONOMIC DOWN TURN AND LOSSES WITH OIL PRICE FALLING TO $52 STARTED LATE LAST YEAR,DURING GOODLUCK JONATHAN REGIME,WHEN AMERICA MASSIVELY SHIFTED THEIR OIL-BUYING MARKET FROM NIGERIA TO IRAN.IT WAS THEN OKONJO IWEALA SAID 2015 WOULD BE A CHALLENGING YEAR FOR NIGERIA.JONATHAN CAUSED IT WITH LACK OF FUTURE PLANS

Fell in love on twitter got me cracking lol.

I get what you and slimmy are saying. As I said from my perspective if they already have a straightforward case I would rather go through the normal straightforward process, but as you said things are tight from Nigeria so maybe overstaying and applying makes more sense. It's the poster's call.

lordoftherings:
Do you know the wait time and the trouble associated with filling the spousal visa while the other party is in a different country, forget legal or illegal its better if that individual stays back in US while the paper is filled it dosent take up to a year, spousal visa interview and procedure is really tight in Nigeria (i cant say for other countries) because everyone is peddling the same story line "i was visiting and i fell i love with him/her" "i meet her on twitter[/b][b]" different stories and you think the VO dont know whats up. am not saying they dont approve but sometimes the processing takes a lot of time, they even do home trip in some cases (going to visit the beneficiary of the visa) you can go to the immigrant section and see how long people have waited.

Ok oh I get you.

Personally I prefer at with forward process but it's up to the poster.

Another option is to apply for fiancée visa for the partner, get married in the U.S. And apply for green card which is also straightforward but if poster is comfortable with overstaying B1 visa to apply then she can.

slimmy05:
This is two Nigerians here. Forget the whole burhaha and the nonsense noise people make. Once you can prove your marriage is valid, the rest is story.

Overstaying your B1 visa to get married and apply for a green card complicates your application as this increases the chances of USCIS thinking your marriage is fraudulent.

I don't see why he should overstay his visa and cause unnecessary complications when he can simply return to Nigeria and apply through a more straightforward process and be back within a year.

The more complicated your case the higher the chances you need a lawyer. They would not need a lawyer if he returns to Nigeria and his case is straightforward, but complicating it by over staying is not advisable and may require use of a lawyer if the USCIS come up with issues.

slimmy05:
That's not true. Even if he falls out of status he doesn't need any lawyer. She can fill the waiver form. He should remain here in US. It shouldn't take more than 6-7months if things go right. The dudes visa is still valid and with what she wrote.

Who dey use lawyer sef file for that thing. Lawyer fees shouldn't exceed $1500 to $2000 even if they are lazy to take time and fill their forms.

He should go back to Nigeria while you file. As spouse of citizen filing will be quicker under one year.

If he stays back he will go out if status and can cause issues when filing and you will end up spending lots of money on lawyers compared to the straightforward case with him in Nigeria.

It doesn't matter of he marries in Nigeria or US, but court wedding better as legally accepted.

slimmy05:
You can get married to him either in Nigeria or US, I'll recommend you guys get married in US, then he can leave to Nigeria or he can be in US there, then you can file for him.

Wise words and I totally agree especially about the opportunity for our kids. Let them have the opportunity to soar to the skies.

Goldenboy007:
I would always say - these Western countries are not paradise but compared to where we are coming from - it's heaven. I had a very good telecom job in Nigeria so I was comfortable but it's 1 out every 50 graduates that have such opportunities, the chances that your kids would be as fortunate are slim. I do not want my unborn kids to go through same thing I went through. Let them have a go at being world class and not local champions, so if this "Yankee life" is what I have to endure to give them such life, so be it. I am not planning kids to be an insurance for old age, my 401k and other Nigerian investments would take care of that, I can't be selfish - I have had my chances living an independent good life, they have their lives ahead of them too, let them enjoy it too. If it is US or UK life for them; fine !!! If it's Nigeria they would love; fine !!! However sentimentally I would love to spend my old age and die in my homeland but that's me !!!
If you are legally in the US you will be financially fine, except you are lazy then you won't "make it". In just very few years of relocating, my networth (assets and investments)have increased 10x of what I perceived as my comfortable status in Nigeria. If you have the opportunity please don't let PDP and APC politicians decide the fate of your kids because their kids are not even in the country!!!

When you apply make sure you mention that you can already been issued an F1 visa, and if successful with new application your F1 will be cancelled.

You have not committed any offence by not using the visa.

At the most they ask why you didn't use it and you explain e.g. you got a good job offer which you couldn't refuse.

MsGlobalwonder:
oh wow. You mean I won't be given a visit visa if I apply for it? *sigh

Hope, you are definitely Nigerian lol.

On a serious note, you are right... the key is IF we get things right.

[quote author=TonyeBarcanista
I believe that Nigeria will rise if we get things right.[i][/i][/quote]

There are quite a few factions fighting in Syria.

From a super power perspective, the attached picture should give some insight into the conflicting objectives of the US, Russia, Iran etc.

Regarding who is ISIS and Assad's enemies, this started after the Assad government started cracking down on protesters during the Arab spring. The crackdown led to some Syrians breaking away from the Syrian army to form the free Syrian movement against Assad who took power after his father died after ruling for 30 years.

That's one faction who the US support. Then you have Al Queda who started fighting in Syria as they felt Assad was targeting Sunni Muslims. The Al Queda group in Syria split away to form ISIS - Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

Then you hezbollah also involved as well as the Kurds who have always felt ostracised.

As you can see its not as simple as kill them all, they are all ISIS.

Appleyard:
Ask yourself: who is ISIS and who are the Assad's enemies?

Haha me too. What happened to her? Hope she is doing fine.

Funjosh:
I miss babyosisi the wife of azubike (hope I got the name right) miss her brain and her wahala

Your question what is the difference between ISIS and Syrian rebels is like me asking for opponents to military rule in Nigeria back in the days to be wiped out.

It's easy to sit back in peace and type that but will you say the same if you were living under such autoritarean rule?

And no i do not support everything America has done which is why I said it's the ordinary Syrians who will suffer the most.

tundebaba234:
what is the difference between isis and syrian rebel? Putin should kill all of them! America killed over 1million people in iraq and the world moved on. Time for putin to bring america and their terrorists affiliates to justice