₦airaland Forum

crossfm:
Hehehe.

So says a white man that has never set his foot in Nigeria local market.

APC and her supporters can listen to anything that makes them happy and convince them that Nigeria economy is doing so great at the moment.

The news on the streets of Nigeria is different from what this guy want us to believe.

What we see in the street is hunger, lamentations, frustrations and desperation.

An ordinary Nigerian is not really interested in the English he is speaking, but after what he will eat.

Watch as people who told us," na statistics we go chop",will now believe in the statistics this man is presenting because it resonates with them now .

It is the situation because people are greedy. The policies can stimulate local production but greed has entered. You could but onsorted local rice for 38k in Kaduna in December 2023 what has changed between three months. People mopped up the produce to store in anticipation of hiking it.

nairalanda1:
The USA exports a lot of manufactured goods and servicies, and also sells a lot of agric produce, and a lot of minerals, oil inclusive. It is the world's largest oil producer.

Nigeria does not do the above, and has never done the above, even under the leadership of many of the leaders you guys regard as good.
Instead, we export oil, whose prices are so volatile, that it does not yield enough.

The thing is, seriously, check out all the countries with strong currencies. They all have high income from diversifed economies, engage in serious manufacturing and exporting the produce of the manufacturing, and also very crucially have a high tax income, and allow the free market to run things. They don't pay subsidies for everything, least of all the power sector.

Nigeria could have been there...if we removed subsides on power and petrol, enforced tax collection on everyone, diversified, yes, diversified our economy, and as someone has suggested here, allowed the free market to thrive, and fought corruption well.

The problem is, this government , and all your past governments (yes, Tinubu, and GEJ are very alike in many ways, cry about it), are all the same. They do not want to do the above, especially removing subsides, because it means a hard period of suffering that may last years. So, we rely on oil, and use oil money to pay for illusions, and when that runs out because of low oil prices, and corruption, we then turn to borrwing to pay (yes, Buhari did that, but so did all our past leaders, and even this current one )...to maintain the illusion. In the name of the poor.

Here is the thing. We are not ready to make the hard decisions. DIversify, improve tax collection, really fight corruption, and looting, and bloated government(tell me why do senators and house of reps need 160m cars for?), remove subsides on power (Ghana and Ivory coast have 24 hour power, because they privatised the sector, and let them charge a lot of money...power in Ivory coast costs 6 times that in Nigeria. I checked)...and on petroleum (and don't tell me about how other countries subsidse, because they charge high taxes or have diversifed economies . We don't. And we are not Saudi with 40 million people and 10 million bpd production), increase manufacturing, because we all want to be importer..and sell imported stuff...forgetting how it damaged local industry.


A country where over 80% of its income comes from oil and where the oil price is too volatile over the years, and where the population is too huge can never have a strong currency. We have never had a strong currency. It is just now that we are at our lowest point, thanks to bad economics, especially from APC since 2015 (for those who think I am stupid enough to defend APC or any government)....that nyash don open and we are seeing the real value of our currency.

(Yes, CFA is strong, but that is because the French pay for it to be strong).

I don't know how we are going to solve our problems. This current government is not it, and people want goodies, not sane economics.

You kind of hit the critical issues, but I disagree the government is all to be blame. A whole lot are to be blame including the lecturers, the media, the civil society organiztions who have misinformed and miseducated the people for so long and also Nigerians who have outsourced critical thinking to this organizations. I remember during Jonathan's government, the information, largely published by western authors and sources stated the issues you mentioned and how our economic structure was volatile. But the Jonathan people with Okonjo Iweala, who had just rebased the economy where shouting our is the strongest and largest in Africa.
For example your currency is fiat money and its exchange rage is backed by oil, you have reduced oil production and your importation apetite has gone up. What do we expect to happen to the currency. You can;t back it by foreign loans.
Other issues they will not address and the people whill not address
Worship of money, greed. They can blame corruption all they want but they will claim Abuja, the cesspit of corruption as the best city in Nigeria and kiss the ass of the corrupt politicians. Kidnapping and crime etc are less a result of the economic situation but more on greed, and how we worship money or those who have it. You have many young students who have never done hard work but into Yahoo Yahoo. It is not the economy but greed and worship of money.
lack of interest(in the south) in farming
lack of interest in population control
ethnic solidarity.

The picture all but says our products are crap and foreign products is what we really want.

BadMaster:
Anybody who still believes that there's some kind of respite on the way, I am sorry for you.

There can be respite if people adjust and decide to go into subsistence farming and also producing most of the things they consume.

Validated:
Relocating FAAN and some departments in CBN to Lagos is sheer senselessness. Tomorrow a president from the North will reverse the actions, so what is the sense in that?

Many families will be disrupted now and by 2031 or earlier another move will be orchastrated.

It is a little more complicaed, if people really want a united Nigeria they will seek peace and security. A hugh central office is not a big deal in a small country( land mass) if we have security and a good rail system. But when we do not have it, it is better to spread out the workforce. Those in admin or perfrom central functions can stay in a central office, those with regulatory and monitoring functions can be dispersed not just to Lagos but accross the country. However, I do think they have too many branches. Just locate branches near the major economic centers. Majority o the data collection, monitoring and regulatory functions should be exclusively done by the branches.

Manigie:
Way to go.... Get rid of all those that will sabotage your government and start a fresh....

At least now we know if you fail, then it's solely on your head

Maybe or maybe not, there have been a lot of leaks coming out since he assumed office, one is that he does not have money to run and he is trying to get as much funds as possible. He still does not have the trust of a lot of people not just the cabinet, he may just be trying to cover his tracks and leaks.

nototribalist:
As long as Aboki is still allowed to be buying and selling of dollars and other forex, Naira will keep struggling.

If CBN drop even $200 billion to the market in other to stabilize the market, these guys will mop up the money from the system.

CBN have used the carrot option and its not working, its time to use stick.

Setup a strong Mopol task force that will work with EFCC to arrest and shut down all bureau DE change shops nationwide. only banks should be allowed to buy and sell dollars.

And banks will be allowed to sell and buy Forex at our international airports so that foreigners can change their money as they are coming into the country.

If CBN is not ready to shut them down then they will continue to be the one who control the Forex market even if it gets to 1$ = N2,000


We are no longer in the 80s and 90s during the Military Era, these guys shouldnt be allowed to be in control of the value of dollar.

I think they can start with electronic monitoring of foreign exchange transactions. Ban the black market but still allow bureau the changes but used a reasonable fiat exchange rate maybe with evaluations every three months. But all bureau the changes should conduct transactions electronically. Customers should provide NIN number, or CAC registratio number, or BVn and then reason for the transaction and set a limit for the transaction. Then ban the black market. It can become a serious economic issue if a large number of people with money are able to control the fx market just for pure speculation and not for trade or travel related reasons.

infogeneral:
GRV could not even spell Bolaji correctly. He wrote Bolahji.
He is more fit for governor in Anambra than Lagos.

I think he is trying his best as a human being. But he may be wrong on Bolaji, it could have been Babatunde not Bolaji

Saao:
he was investigated several times but wasn't detected but we are talking of detected crimes and convicted narcotics crime as well as identity Fraud detected. Anyway time will tell

Are you aware that william Jefferson, a US congressman went to jail partly because of Atiku? I am not talking about politics like he said, I am talking about crime in Nigeria and how many have been rewarded as a result of it. What he could have done it to admit the problem, if he is serious, in atruthful way and profer a solution.

Saao:
Whether u like it or not, that's what it is. The best thing to do is to legalize crime

I think we should have a change of heart from crime. I seriously doubt the top three never benefited from crime or their wealth is detached from the rewards of crime. He is not the best to talk about crime. He can talk about it if he gives away his weatlh to fight crime and educate citizens about good behviours.

His rise to wealth cannot be detached from the rewards of crime or can it?

Mynd44:
Atiku wants a single 6-year term to be returned amongst the 6 geopolitical zones.

Says the same person that refused to step down to allow his party present a candidate from the south

Worse is that said 6 geopolitical are not even recognized by the law. That were just created for political expediencies.

You cannot pass a law saying it is the turn of the NE to present a candidate as it is a violation of the rights of other zones.

Atiku knows this is a waste of time

I agree with you that the six zones are not recogized in the constitution. It was proposed during the Abacha conference but not in the 1999 constitution. Apart from that the rotation amy work if we have a form of confederation like in Switzerland or at least a federal system with the central less comand of the economy.

raskymonojendor:
During Abacha's era, Nairaland won't even exist.for you to create this post of yours let alone criticize the military government in power.

I wrote here before that Nigeria likely went through a great recession during the Abacha period, but when you have NIgerian civil servants and military in charge they can doctor statistics. Abacha and a lot of previous leaders survived on oil exports to control the economy and not on good policies or leadership. But something inside of me thinks the core issue is not the leadership. Imagine a country full of children, whether it is military(more control at the top) or political(more freedom at the bottom), the father(leadership) will ultimately feel the state is its property and the people waiting for their leaders to give them direction. Nigerians needs to provide directions and ultimately taxes to the leaders and not the other way around especially in handouts from the ND. It is hard to provide direction when we are ruled by emotions , lack of trust and always needing to be trained.

Deepthoughts:
Get me right, I'm not talking of electronic transmission, I'm talking in a general note,if the IREV has no bearing with the final tally of elections results, there's no point displaying it to the public,rather it should be an in house thing for INEC simple,if I may ask you,since the IREV has no bearing on the final elections results, of what purpose is it to the public?

I suspect, they are using a staggered strategy towads transmission. From one of their reports ", IReV has
enabled the Commission to test three
things that are germane to electronic
transmission of results.
First, it has been used to test the efficacy
of electronic results management,
should the legal encumbrance be
lifted. This system has been deployed
in several major off-season/endof-tenure and bye-elections. These
include the Edo and Ondo State
Governorship elections, six Senatorial
and three Federal Constituency byeelections, 15 State constituencies and
one Councillorship Constituency in the
FCT. From the result obtained from these
elections, the Commission is convinced
that electronic result management will
add great value to the transparency
and credibility of elections in Nigeria.
Secondly, the Commission used the
IReV portal to test the security of
our systems if they are deployed for
electronic transmission of results. Again,
our systems have passed the entire
necessary security tests, including
“dummy hacking” by ethical hackers.
Thirdly, the Commission has used the
IReV online publishing of Polling Unit
results to test the capacity of the
national infrastructure to support
future electronic transmission of results.
Results were transferred in real-time
from all parts of the country covering
different types of elections"

Deepthoughts:
please don't try to justify rubbish,what is even collation by the way? isn't it basically adding up figures?,if INEC is truthful, results ought to be uploaded on to the IREV quickly n the final tally should be almost same with what's on the portal,but because the original intention is to deceive the public, INEC created the IREV only to be uploading doctored results weeks after elections and tells the public the IREV is only for viewing n not collation,only senseless persons would believe that crap.

Forget what you read online. I am reading from INEC documents from 2021 to 2022. They have never publicly admitted programming the IREV for transmission of results. By their definition of electronic transmission, collating and transmitting polling units, wards, lga, and state results and assigning winner. What they claim it is to upload images of polling units results. They can design or programm it for electronic transmission but I am Nigerian, I doubt that IREV can actually do that right now.

onuman:
Irev until a later date? Until Tinubu finishes 8 years and until his VP Shettima finishes another 8 years.
The market which APC is buying for Nigerian non Muslims will consume APC and its supporters.

The thing is indirectly INEC is claiming that their system is working. It is just that it is in a beta test stage. If you look at the core of Obi's and Atiku's case it is about other things like certificate, FCT other than electoral manipulation. Even Obi's case on transmission is not disputing differences in manual and IREV polling sheets. To INEC, the less dispute you have about under voting or voter suppression and more on certificate and technicalities they are progressing. I actually think that election was a Yakubu/Buhari election, Tinubu may likely choose his own person but they will continue with the electronic system until it maybe live transmission but when INEC is ready(going by the electoral act).

Deepthoughts:
If that is the case then IREV is just a total waste of money and should be cancelled,I mean what the point of a viewing portal that is worthless, it's just an avenue to siphon money,shame on INEC.

It is a beta test project that INEC is using to upload polling results. The next phase is likely collation but they have not started it.

nairalanda1:
The thing is, after all the noise about how IREV was supposed to make things better, we get a ruling that says..It was not necessary?

Ok o. I just dey look. Millions wasted for nothing.

It was the previous senate and Yakubu that made the changes. However, IREV as designed by INEC is not a collation or considered a mode of transmitting election results(i.e collating and assigning winner). They are doing it gradually but I suspect they were not really interested in electronic transmission until a later date. What they have been doing are pilot projects.
https://www.channelstv.com/2021/10/12/breaking-senate-gives-inec-sole-power-on-electronic-transmission-of-results/

NinjaMetahuman:
These people have gone absolutely nut.

We get that most of them didn't witness abacha's regime, but instead of them to sit and learn, they just want to make small cash from their brainless followers on Twitter through engagement.

Imaging praising abacha. Tufiakwa.

Partly because we behave like unruly and emotional children but praising an abusive and absent father is not the solution.

Raskimonojendor:
Exactly.

We watched how he murdered many of his opponents via sergeant Rogers hit squad e.g. Pa Rewane or via hanging (e.g Ken Saro Wiwa).

Partial list of Abacha's victims

1.
Rear Admiral Babatunde Elegbede, killed June 19, 1994.

One time state military governor & former Chief of Defence Intelligence, 1989 to 1990. He was shot dead along the Gbagada/Oworonshoki expressway.

He was 55.

2.
Chief Alfred Ogbeyiwa Rewane, wealthy businessman & a NADECO chieftain, shot to death in his home in Ikeja, Lagos, 6th of October, 1995.

He was going to be 80.

Kenule "Ken" Saro-Wiwa, 10 November 1995.

The writer and environmental/Ogoni rights activist was Judicially murdered (that was what John Major, then UK PM called it) via execution by hanging, on trumped up charges of murder.

He was 54.

3.
Admiral Emanuel Olu Omotehinwa, May 22, 1996 shot in his home in Ikoyi Lagos.

His son witnessed his killing by 3 men who came into the house.

He was in his Mid 50s.

His close relations with an exiled ex-army officer in NADECO, was speculated as reason for his being targeted.

4.
Alhaja Kudirat Abiola, senior wife of Chief M.K.O Abiola.

Assassinated in broad daylight at Motorways Junction, 7Up Ikeja, Lagos, 4th of June 1996.

She had only just left home in Ikeja about 30 minutes earlier, on her way to keep an appointment on Victoria Island.

She was 45.

5.
Chief (Mrs) Bisoye Tejuoso; Iyalode Egba and mother of the reigning Osile Oke Ona, Oba Dapo Tejuoso, was murdered, 19th September, 1996.

She probably voiced her thoughts a little to loudly.

She was 80.

6.
Alhaja Suliat Adedeji, an Ibadan based business woman & politician, 14th of November 1996.

She was killed when gunmen visited her house in a genteel neighbourhood of the Iyaganku area of Ibadan.

Aged 52.

7.
Toyin Onagoruwa,18th December 1996.

A young lawyer, in his late 20s, son of activist & Minister of Justice, Dr. Olu Onagoruwa, sacked for disowning 8 new decrees. Shot in front of their house in Yaba.

The assassins’ car was traced to a govt security agency, via private efforts.

8.
General Shehu Musa Yar’Adua, Enugu prison, December 8, 1997.

He was serving a life sentence for the 1995 ‘phantom’ coup.

Poisoned to death by injection allegedly administered by “Dr Death”, a colonel in Abacha’s death squad.

9.
Dr. Sola Omatsola, December 13, 1997.

He was the head of security at Murtala Muhammad International Airport.

A bomb planted for a senior member of government did him in.

He was in his 40s.

10.
Tunde Oladepo, senior correspondent & bureau chief of The Guardian in Ogun State, February 26, 1998.

Shot dead in the presence of his family in their home in Abeokuta.

He had written a story criticizing traditional rulers for endorsing Abacha for president.

He was 34.

And many others like Bagauda Kalto, a journalist also died from wounds sustained from bomb blast planted in a hotel in Kaduna.

The list is long. I can't name all of them here.

Picture attached is of Pa Alfred Rewane.

Thank you for this, I have always speculated that crime became close to an epidemic during his time, that the socalled security of that time was just to protect him and his government. I know a few people who were assasinated during this period not by government ut due to business decisions.

raumdeuter:
Abacha operated in a military regime, where he had no Senate, no House of rep, no elections that cost money. All the 5 political parties adopted him as consensus candidate

He appointed whoever he likes to governorship

Tinubu should appoint Joe Igbokwe as Anambra governor, Appoint Lai Mohamed as Enugu governor, appoint El Rufai as Abia governor, appoint Wike as Lagos governor, Appoint Asari Dokubo as Osun governor, Chimaraoke to Kano

Tinubu should get all the political parties to adopt him as Presidential candidate

Tinubu should return Minimum wage to N350 per month like it was under Abacha, Teachers on strike permanently, ASUU on strike for over 1yr and Abacha solution was to sack all lecturers and send soldiers to pack their load out of staff quarters

We get suspended from Commonwealth, he bans us from attending Nations cup

Ogoni people protest of environmental degradation, he hangs all of them including Saro Wiwa

Should we hope Tinubu start killing opposition like Abacha did too so we can see how many of these people will be alive

Over the years, I have met people who assign platitudes on Abacha, even on security and on the economy. Their premise is that it was not as bad then but they fail to see the the seed of a lot of ill was sowed then, security issues became worse towards the end of Babangida's term and continued under Abacha. People who ply the Ibadan to Lagos will tell you the difference in security between the 1980s and 1990s. In short in Southern NIgeria the rise in evangelical christianity coincides with the rise in economic recession for many families, moral failings and political miscalculations. The moment the political and economic environment was becoming unfavorable many went to religion for solutions.
To these Abacha people Nigeria a lot of poor suddenly appeared after Abacha, crime rose after Abacha(even though 419, fake drugs, car jackings were rampart). Suddenly we were thriving but within a few years our poverty rates went through the roof.
On PR Abacha had PR, he was a dictator, statistics were maipulated to make in look good. But all in all, I have always believed our economic problems started in the second republic and we have not yet rectified it. I actually believed Nigeria went through a severe economic recession btw 1993/1994 -1997 but because the government relies on oil revenues not taxes they were able to shield themselves from the effects. Can these Abacha peeps say any non government sector apart from crime that was thriving during this period.

regenerateman:
I'm also not a fan of Tinubu. However, his case is different from Mmesoma. CSU has confirmed succinctly that Tinubu was given admission in their school and he graduated. However, in the US, emphasis is placed on transcript more than the certificate and one can go and print his certificate from a road side printer just like what Tinubu did. Mmesoma, forged her result and upgraded her scores to get a scholarship. The two cases are not congruence.

Actually do not believe the narrative, you cannot obtain a certificate from any roadside printer. What the school is saying that vendors print certificates for them and any new or even replacement certificates are channeled through vendors. But once the individual pick up the replacement certificate, they do not retain a copy of such. Copies they retain are those not picked up. The testimony did not actually prove anything because to do that you have to know the vendor who printed those types of certificates that Tinubu has and go then invite them but because of privacy laws it may be quite impossible to do.

SoNature:
I am not a Tinubu's fan and will never be. However, Tinubu's case and Mmesoma's case aren't the same.

While the former didn't FAKE anything about his result (because the school acknowledged that he finished from there), Mmesoma upgraded her result to win an award.

The little girl is a criminal and nobody should defend her criminality. Criminals like Mmesoma should make Nigéria consider having a juvenile prison.

NIgeria sadly thrives partly on emotional responses, i.e religion, ethnicity, relationships. It is hard to know what or who is real. One is a case to defraud while one is an un-authenticated case. But the process to know the reality of the certificate has been clouded by emotions. The only thing I understand is that the certificate he is parading is likely a replacement one from the late 1990s. The school like many universities use vendors to print their certificates for security and various reasons, so they do not authenticate picked up replacements certificates the only thing they can authenticate is the academic transcripts. This issue has now delved into forgery fake etc. Many people are unaware that replacement certificates will have the logo, signatures of current leadership of the school. So if you received a replacement certificate in 1980, 1990, 2010, 2023, All those certificates may as well have differences even if te bearer is the same.

Blitzerz:
Go and read the deposition
School disowned the certificate from INEC
Clear

This is not rocket science

My understanding is that Inec certificate is exhibit 6

Again, I have read it and this is it
And CSU doesn't have a 1979 diploma that
·7· ·contains the same font, CL signatures, and wording
·8· ·apart from the INEC diploma, correct?
·9· · · · A· · Correct.
10· · · · Q· · And CSU doesn't know of any diplomas like the
11· ·INEC diploma having ever been issued, correct?
12· · · · A· · I believe -- that's what we produced in the
13· ·request.· Hold on.· The ones that are like it are CSU
14· ·.8, 9 and 10
15· · · · Q· · CSU 8, 9 and 10 are dated in 1999, correct?
16· · · · A· · You're correct.
17· · · · Q· · Or from the '90s, correct?
18· · · · A· · Yes.
19· · · · Q· · And Exhibit 6 is dated from 1979, correct?
20· · · · A· · It's dated 1979.
21· · · · Q· · So CSU doesn't know of any diplomas dated
22· ·1979 like the INEC diploma that has ever been issued,
23· ·correct?· It is a simple "yes" or "no" answer?
24· · · · A· · Sure.
·1· · · · Q· · That's correct?
·2· · · · A· · Yes.
·3· · · · Q· · And CSU has no basis that the INEC diploma
·4· ·was issued by CCSU, correct?
·5· · · · A· · The student in question graduated from the
·6· ·University in June 22, 1979.· We were not qualified to
·7· ·verify whether this document is authentic, given that
·8· ·it is not in our possession.
·9· · · · Q· · Have you ever seen a diploma purporting to be
10· ·from CSU, but was actually a forgery?
11· · · · A· · Yes.
12· · · · Q· · Are you aware of any entities that create
13· ·such fake diplomas?
14· · · · A· · Yes.
15· · · · Q· · Can you give me some examples of that?
16· · · · A· · I cannot provide a name of an entity that
17· ·does such.· However, you can Google this easily.· There
18· ·are many companies that do this for folks.
19· · · · Q· · And CSU has no record of issuing this INEC
20· ·diploma to President Tinubu in 1979?
21· · · · · · ·MR. HENDERSON:· Objection.· Asked and
22· ·answered.
23· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· Correct.
24
·1· ·BY MS. LIU:
·2· · · · Q· · And CSU has no record of issuing the INEC
·3· ·diploma to President Tinubu, correct?
·4· · · · · · ·MR. HENDERSON:· Objection.· Same question
·5· ·answered for a third time.
·6· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· Correct.· We do not keep copies
·7· ·of the reorder requests.
·8· · · · Q· · And CSU did not issue either the two diplomas
·9· ·to President Tinubu in 1979, correct?
10· · · · A· · Can you rephrase that?
11· · · · Q· · So CSU did not issue the June 22, 1979
12· ·diploma as well as the June 27, 1979 diploma to
13· ·Mr. Tinubu in 1979?
14· · · · · · ·MR. HENDERSON:· Objection.· Vague. Compound
15· ·question.
16· · · · · · ·MS. LIU:· I kindly ask counsel to refrain
17· ·from making speaking objections.
18· · · · · · ·MR. HENDERSON:· Vague and compound questions
19· ·is anything other than a speaking objection.· Vague
20· ·and compound question is not a speaking objection.
21· · · · · · ·MR. HAYES:· You can answer the question,
22· ·Caleb, if you understand it.
23· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· We issue a diploma to eve


Again, the thing is a replacement diploma will have a different signatures, when the deans and presidents are different. So like I said the whole thing is legelse and largely political but less on factual, hence no real smoking gun. if it is a replacement diploma, i a genuine one at that, it would most likely have different signatures but the date of graduation which is 1979 and the name at graduation should remain. A replacement diploma obtained in 1999 from CSU will be different from a diploma issued in 1979. Atiku's lawyer seems to be claiming the certificate submitted was not issued in 1979, which is likely true and Tinubu know s that. Hence, I believe Tinubu may have information about the diploma and how it was obtained(in the 1990s not in the 1970s). That the diploma was obtained in the late 1990s or 2000 is the only thing clear, the rest are vague and nothing concrete was established because the registart said copies of replacement diplomas are not retained so they cannot say where the diploma came from either through the school, third party or fake. Tinubu's certificate is obviously a replacement one and the school is saying they cannot authenticate it because they do not withold copies. If Tinubu requested a replacement, he may have copies of the letter to request it but silent on it. Tinubu was governor in 1999, he had the ability to easily request a diploma why forge one?

Blitzerz:
We are not talking about the graduation of bola Adekunle Tinubu.

We are talking about a fake document submitted to INEC

The thing is how do you know the document is forged? The whole process was very legalese and one sided (on Atiku's part). Tinubu has not said his side. What I understand is the certificate he presented was likely obtained in the late 1990's or 2000. Whether it was through a third party or through the institution has not been established nor whether it was done in Tiunbu's home. There is no real smoking gun, because the university admitted he did graduate from their institution. Atiku's side's claim is that the certificate tenderd cannot be the one obtained from 1979, which is likely true but the school's side is that it was likely obtained in the late 1990s and because it was a replacement certificate they have no way of authenticting it because they do not withold copies of replacements certificates(because they are channeled to third party vendors but the request is obtained from their school).
The main mistake Tinubu may have done was claiming the certificate(instead of the degree) was obtained in 1979 instead of saying it was a replacement certificate. (it was obviously a replacement one because the signatures matches the ones used in 1990s) Replacement certificates will have different signatures and wordings to match the currently used certificate of the school when a replacement was made. Tinubu's own was a match to the 1990's certificate issued by the school.

descarado:
He is not a victim at all.
In the same uk, you don't lie under oath. It's a punishable offence. Guy lied about his age.

Investigation is very deep in uk and this is one such investigation. Its known that we do organ trafficking. The case at hand is how to prove that he was induced by money.
Even if its found out he is indeed induce by monetary compensation, he will still not get asylum as he is of legal age.

I think the age is a major factor Ekweremadu is trying to prove.

Remember he went to uk on sick visa.

This is were I think we need to know more details. Was his application done and processed by the office of Ekweremadu? was it done and approved based on their status. My opinion is that an investigation was done and evidence was supplied by the British high commission and the boy, it may be circumstantial but their could be enough to go to trial and convict. We will find more info on July 7. According to reports, the date mentioned by the police was between august 2021 and May 2022. So they already received some evidence/confession about hwo the visa was obtained and so forth.

godwon01:
That boy is a traitor. After collecting a lot of money from Ekweramadu family. He supposed to have returned to Nigeria and probably been compensated heavily by Ekweramadu. He has the opportunity of coming back to the UK but now ,he has messed up his chances Whoever that adviced him to tell lies about his age didn't help him at all. He will definitely get deported to Nigeria. I am quite sure of that.

Traitor? we do not know the full details. My guess is the Ekweremadus knew this was going to happen and they got on top of the story. Right now, there is no clear evidence the boy went to the police. My opinion is one of two things, the British High Commission were suspicious and filed a report even though they approved the visa or suspicions were raised at the hospital. At the hospital, the boy may have have been told it is criminal for him to take monetary gifts for organ transfer and therefore was presented an option to tell his story and snitch on the people involved. Ekweremadu ended up being the biggest fish and was in U.K. so he became the main target. I will blame Ekweremadu or their conselors, even if you want to engage in such a transaction do not involve countries were the laws can put you or the donor in legal issues. To many countries, if they can get a smaller fish in their net, they just need to pressure him to rat out the bigger fish. Many Nigerians just run away or threaten to blackmail their benefactor when they reach abroad not immediately run to the police. I think something had been up before May 5

efavour:
itnis actually a good course. You can straight go into lecturing gst if you made good grade

Most likely a remnant of British education. I do not how tough it could have been in the 70s but it seems to me studying Latin and western classics (Rome/Greece) was the intention. Knowledge of Latin was highly regarded during colonial education. But I doubt they taught in Latin in the 70s. If they did it would have been highly challenging.

anthony86:
Abacha looted Nigeria Plain and simple. He took funds out he country at his own discretion out to protect his illegitimate Gorverment. Some of the funds only him and some of his close associates could easily access.

It is the mis-education of Nigerians. Just sad to read. Too many errors in their ways. Number 1 bs, abacha's economy was good. No it was not nigeria was likely in a recession for two years between 1993 and 1995. Manufacturing collapsed and we went deep into importation of everything. Same man, as the economy collapsed kept a so-called $9b for nigeria. How can an economy that never really recovered from a recession be good. Their central bank governor left for London and in the news for investing in properties there. This issue re-occurs every time, when shagari died same thing even though that era went through the worst economy and we had twenty years to get things on track.

sharone21:
Nigerians can be annoying in terms of parking cars on the streets/roads as some (apart from other reasons) will not build big enough compounds to cater for their cars.

However, this exercise will cause more pains on Nigerians....

Yes, but sometimes it is not about compound. Rich people buy too many cars. Some who have no children at home still.have three or more cars. Some cars are their business cars or car for sales and some parked because of safety. The estate I leave, there is no parking for guest because cars are packed everywhere.

I cannot say whether the VP needs all this aides but the president sure does and if the VP has more SA's than the president then I see one reason there are speculations of a cabal. If the president has any agenda, political or economic, he needs aides who are knowledgeable in those areas and who can find solutions, ideas according to the president's agenda or ideology. Most of the president's ideas will come from those aides so you need aides proficient in certain fields. the ministers do not necessarily set the agenda, the president is still higher than ministers and if he wants ministries to run a certain way, he needs advisers to inform him/her about processes to take to make ministries run that way, if ministers disagree they can present their case and the president's men can present their case. It will actually be good if both sides disagree because there will be discussions hopefully open ones and then real solutions can be proposed.

baby124:
OMG. PDP almost killed this country. They paid $1b for an oil block worth $3b and even out of that $1b most of the money disappeared as bribes to government officials.

the story is quite complicated and it is entirely nigeria’s Fault or basically a bunch of greedy officials.