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NwaEzefuNaMba:
Buhari is a monumental failure and anyone still doubting that is core daft(or maybe a programmed zombie)

Waging war against the judiciary at a time that the president is neither in good working relationship with the legislature nor even mere party member; that's certainly the beginning of the end of Buhari dynasty.

How does this relate to d fact that d njc has shrouded itself in secrecy.

tete7000:
Everybody is flexing their muscle. Welldone. When go the wrong way, you cause a negative reaction. Media trial/propaganda, the tool of apc government will do the country no good. Where has the dictum that accused are presumed innocent until proven guilty gone to? Someone help me ask apc.

It isnt media trial, it is freedom of information and it is guaranteed by d constitution.

this funny rule means they have dirty lundry they want to hide. they are protecting themselves.

NwaEzefuNaMba:
Only God knows the kindna weed Lala is feeding Oshobaba with

Since he imported Lala, he started vomiting trash ceaseless.

what is wrong in what he said? are u not hating on him 4 no reason?

yinkslinks:
betray you how you foolish man? means you are expecting him to cover your ass. this our leaders are stupiiiiid

WEYTIN OSHO TALK WEY DESERVE D JOKE WEY U WRITE 4 UP

Syncan:
Only an ignorant or confused SSPX member will write that, its most likely coming from the sede vacante enclave. Those guys ....I tire.

The sspx has a similar disposition towards rome, they will ignore most of what comes from rome and tag many others heresy.

Syncan:
Only an ignorant or confused SSPX member will write that, its most likely coming from the sede vacante enclave. Those guys ....I tire.

I guess u havent been around d sspx circle, they look at anything coming from rome as suspect, they believe if d pope isnt speaking ex cathedra then he may very well b teaching heresy. The sspx will agree francis is pope but they certainly will disagree with 60% of what he says and they wouldn't bother to obey because it isnt extraordinarily binding.

I met a sspx bishop some time ago and he claimed rome is infirm and suffering from alzemiers that prevents her from recalling correctly. They have a huge beef with papa francis since they believe he is very liberal.

PatAkpos:
Someone pls explain: Is this decree applicable to Benin city alone or is the whole of Edo state also to observe it?

The decree is tied to benin alone. in d olden days people usually migrated from beni when an oba or his son dies due to d heavy customary restriction, oba eware i was notorious in that regard, he caused whole scale migration and dispersed benin people leading to d formation of new tribes.

Ghost01:
You really are a comedian. And what do 'olokun' and 'oba' mean in Yoruba?

how dat one take concern me? someone claimed olokun and oba arent legitimate benin words, i showed they are, weytim concern me with d yoruba meaning?

SalC:
What is this?

i think it is either sspx or sedesvacante, they are accusing the present pope of teaching heresy and contradicting past church doctrines.

Arisco didnt do any coronation an ogiamwen is a member of d uzama minor which means he receive his beads from d oba he can't be crowned otherwise, arisco isnt even eligible for ogiamwen since d missing one has a son. he illegal proclaimed himself king and his case is in court.

macof:
but arisco has already done the coronation, can a man crown himself?... the thing is the ogiamien family is divided
sucks for them though...i hope they sort things out . the treaty is essential...probably the 2nd most important part of the coronation after the 'picking' of a name for the Oba unless they have cheated the ogiamien out. I read someone who joined in the burial of the father of the missing ogiamien was supposed to fill in for him. messed up arrangement if you ask me, why not just dethrone the 'missing' ogiamien on grounds of not properly following his duty or proclaim him dead and crown another person

d treaty is not essential in d coronation and has been omiuf b4.

macof:
you are one of the dumbest bini fellows I have encountered.

I asked what are your findings from your research and you spam my mentions with this bullshit? no chants? no recorded report, not even the meaning of the name "olokun" nothing smh

damned inferiority complex

I know u are so small that u will have to bring a polite discussion down to insults! Instead of simply asking for a chant u had to insult me because of d smallness of ur mind.

The chants u seek can be found here on nairaland d guy with d username babalawo recently opened a thread on olokun with bini chants. U can check it out. If u were looking for written works u could have simply typed olokun into any search engine.
And if u are going to continue with ur usual insult kindly dont mention me.

Ghost01:
And what does "olokun" mean to you? Little time now you'd claim 'olorun' is also not Yoruba. It was folks like you that were claiming 'oba' is not a Yoruba word not too long ago. You guys amaze me!

Olokun in benin means owner of d ocean, ol'(o) is owner, okun is ocean.

OBA IS certainly benin, it means to shine, omo n'oba is the son that shines.

SaffronSpice:
we are talking 'bout obatala not oduduwa here.

the above's your post.i asked 4 a proof,and you are telling me to check the list of the ogisos.
You must know the age of obatala for you to conclude that the ogisos are far older;how old is/was obatala ?

Unless obatala was over 200yrs old then obagodo certainly exist long before obatala was born. i see u didnt bother to check d list of ogiso.

fatiaforreal:
So its funny when a Bini man claims Oba originated from Benin.
The palace is only trying to cover up the origin of the Oba to prevent a possible challenge to the dynasty by the aborigines led by Ogiamen. That's just the truth.

D ogiamwen doesnt lead anything, he is missing, he was given land and title becos of his good father, even his family are stil subject to d king.

macof:
do you know the Ogiamien sued the bini chiefs and the crown prince to court for not paying the bills for the land he will rule after his coronation?

Ubenedictus. ..bokohala...

D ogiamwen didnt sue d oba, ogiamwen is missing, arisco sued the oba and d ogiamwen family disowned him quicky after aserting he isnt a direct descendant of d missing ogiamwen.

d so called treaty is a ritual not compulsory, it has been missed over 10times. the ogiamwen is part of d uzama n'bie and subject to the king.

the ogiamwen was shown clemency because of d memory of evian who was a good administrator.

fatiaforreal:
Good point.
He founded old Oyo kingdom too.
He left his son Ajaka and returned home. HOME, not Benin but ILE IFE.

WAS AJAKA also in his mother womb when oranmiyan left? and was he surrounded by an enemy like eweka was?

fatiaforreal:
The languages were not as varied as they appear today. Nupeland is where more than 70% of the languages in Africa originated from and it's the point of separation of most tribes.
Oranmiyan did not wander, he conquered Benin.
Ooni has visited every kingdom he considers Oduduwa's kingdom. Is Benin kingdom an exception?

Oranmiyan didnt conquer shit, the families his some of his associates are still in benin, when oranmiyan came to benin he was still a scared young man, he never set foot in d benin town becos evian's son was in control, d chiefs gave him a place to stay at d outskirt of d town. oramiyan couldnt even fight his own battles he ran away when he saw evians child was in charge, he ran away and left a pregnant woman (common who does dat?). his son eweka after learning was d chief was a more courageous person compared to oranmiyan. even at that eweka didnt defeat evian kid nor did his children until oba ewedo.

pls stop speaking from ignorance.

evansjeff:
I'll have to confirm that then...but of my almost three decades in this kingdom I've never heard of that, maybe I missed it anyway but I doubt...if you can be of help, just remind me of some of the places the last Oba visited. Thanks

The oba goes out but it is very rare, obas used to fight battles in d olden day.

Brocab, the problem i've gat with u is u alway repeat the same accusation even after u have been corrected, nobody can buy people out of purgatory, the catholic church doesnt believe in buying people out of purgatory either and nobody makes money out of purgatory, at least not today! susan tassone as i earlier wrote decided on her own to raise 2mil for 400,000 masses worldwide, u can't buy people from purgatory but if God will it one may pray people from it.

if i go to mass daily i may add them in prayers or in my private prayer, tassone's idea was to give a priest a $5 stipend to mention that particular intention specifically at his mass. nobody is making a fortune out of it. and just so u know a priest will put ur intention specifically in his mass even if u have no stipend but there is a lesson to giving a stipend.

fatiaforreal:
The palace is aware of the public debate and they know the Ekiopagha Treaty is an acid test. He would be the first Oba of Benin not to pay, and if this goes to court, more secrets will be revealed. If the was just like any other rite he would have done it. You see why I was hammering on the treaty. His refusal to perform it is a victory in itself for our argument. The Oba is from Ife. Case closed.

He isnt d 1st oba to not perform d ritual, the ritual has been missed for at least 10 times. d ogiamwen was reabsorbed into d uzama n'bie which makes him a subject and subordinate to d king. anyone sueing the oba is just ignorant.

MrPresident1:
Provide the etymology of the word in Bini.

'Ogidigan' is Yoruba, everyone knows what 'Ogidigan' means in Yoruba

Up till 1939, Yoruba was the official language of the palace in Benin

Ogidigan is benin for great. the palace doesnt speak benin! Not now or in d 1900, d Benin tongue is considered sacred in benin, an oba wouldnt speak yoruba, it will be like eating animal feed to him.

SaffronSpice:
proof?

You can read d list of ogiso in benin, that was before oduduwa.

macof:
and what are the findings from your search? how can you convince us that Olokun Oba loju omi, Olokun iba, fun mi l'ore is from Bini?

U guys simply adopted olokun and added ur own stuff.

clevadani:
he clearly referred to ekhaladeran as Oduduwa, but he didn't say Oduduwa was from Benin. He clearly said he is from Ile Ife. Or did you miss it? he never referred to Oduduwa as a prince. I He only called Oranmiyan a prince. And besides, there he a reason he used their Yoruba names and not the Benin names.

It is clear u didnt hear or read d speech, have a nice day.

SaffronSpice:
Oba has been in use before the exiled Oduduwa(as you claim) got to Ife.
Who did Oduduwa meet at Ife?
Oba-tala.

And b4 oduduwa and obatala was born there was obagodo in benin.

MrPresident1:
Yoruba was considered the language of the Benin elite, and was also the palace language until very recently.

Ogidigan's meaning is in Yoruba.

Ogidigan is benin, and the language of d palace is benin, a few guilds may have their own secret code language and it isnt yoruba

banttieman:
All this hype for a 3rd class oba.
Smh

U dont know the meaning of 3rd class monarchs.

clevadani:
all what you wrote up there is nonsense because the Oba just proclaimed with his own mouth that he is a direct descendant of Oduduwa and not ekhaladeran as you try to paint it.

HE also clearly said that oduduwa is ekhaladeran a prince from benin did u miss it?

Vorpal:
So are you saying, the Benins are the progenitors of the yoruba race?

Not really he is saying oduduwa was a stranger to ife and benin is his origin.

Shymm3xx:
No correlation whatsoever. You can only make comparisons if this were about imposition.

Yorubas in general and Bini never went to war and neither subjugated the other, apart from tiny eastern Yoruba kingdoms. So, how come ya king does everything Yoruba? I know a bit about Olokun worship cos I read a lot about Afro-Brazilian history and their culture - and it's big over there. And Olokun is a Yoruba religion.

Yorubas and benins went to war, and olokun originated from benin. u should do ur research.

janellemonae:
Lol! The Oba of Benin just said in his speech ( if ur watching live on air), how he is a direct descendant of ofuduwa his father.

AND how oduduwa is from benin, why are u selecting his speech

OBAGADAFFI:
Stop saying what you dont know.

The word Oba is foreign to Benin people.

Oba just confirmed he is a descendant of oranmiyan

The word oba isnt foreign to benin, the oba also confirm that oduduwa was an exiled benin prince. did u miss that part of d speech?