₦airaland Forum

macof:
why would ooni call akensua father and elder brother... infact how can one be father and elder brother to the same person use ur head

Because d bini stool begot d ife stool, and if i understand correctly d oonis are descendants of oramiyan which makes bini an elder brother as eweka is d eldest of oramiyans descendants. father and elder brother.

macof:
well oranmiyan is a son of oodua, ooni is Odua. and the oba of benin is a son of the son of oodua. so infact the oba of benin is the Ooni`s grandson . wishing thinking and lying to yourself wont change a thing.

Here we disagree, here bini and yoruba disagree, ooni and omo n'oba disagree. and naturally binis wil reject ur land claiming advances.

Taryur3:
Kid raised with golden morn and milk sighted

When i was born there was no such thing as golden morn. i ate akamu.
stop assuming peoples age and background, dont insinuate rubbish becos of we disagree.

Babalawos:
Olokun is mainly worshiped in the southern part of Nigeria; "Edo, Delta, Beyalsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, Cross Rivers" because these Nigeria states have boundaries with the ocean and Olokun is the Great Goddess of the ocean. These tribes have strong tie with Olokun. So Evoking, Invoking and summoning Olokun with bini or any other southern Nigerian dialect proof more potent from my personal experience. A geography textbook regarding Nigeria states and capitals will be ok for you. So can I continue with my Olokun class?

OL

exlinkleads:
hahahahah imagine that..


they saw, they counted and are sure is $2m

and yet they didn't recover it....

Blatant lieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

READ AGAIN, they didnt say they saw d money.

Akinwerndey:
is the NJC aware of it, which court or judge gave the DSS the arrest warrant? Any idea?

wait til monday when d courts wil hear d case. i am simply telling u wat i read on d news, i dont know which judge gave d warrant.

naijaking1:
Did they search with a warrant? If not whose idea was it and how did they arrive at that idea?
Unreasonable search and seizures is against the tenets of democracy. If they have a warrant for the search, that's good.
The question would be which judge signed the warrant.

Democracy is obviously more complicated than a military rule, and people who praise Buhari today would live to regret tomorrow when lawlessness arrives the door step.

Only judges with a history of ruling against Buhari and his party should not be made scape goats

They had search warrants according to news sources.

TonyeBarcanista:
How can you arrest Judges like common criminals without first inviting them? I will never support corruption but swooping on Judges without first inviting them is suspicious and wrong.

they were invited, d dss clarified this.

Goddys:
The height at which Buhari is violating constitutional provisions is alarming.
He violated court order to release Nnamdi KANU from custody. Now he resorted to abrogating the inalienable tenet that hold all democratic nations together by arresting serving justices alleged of engaging in corrupt practices whereas there is a stipulated laws as to the process of arresting such senior citizens if found wanting in the discharge of their duties.
He ought to have informed the NJC who are empowered to discipline erring judges before taking recourse to arresting them as he does.

D dss has taken all due diligence, they invited d judges, investigated and got their warants. if they are innocent let them defend themselves in court. all exant laws has been followed.

MrDavidson:
This is great, but I have my reservations about the timing for these arrests. Why should the supposed incoming CJN be included? The Judiciary has been very corrupt, but this govt too has been too lenient on them. Why should judges not be tried speedily when they're caught red-handed in bribe, but simply suspended or even transfered to another location? To go and continue his heist, isn't it? During the election petitions, many judges were busted by the EFCC of having collected bribes to twist justice, but they were only removed and given a slap on their wrist. Isn't that absurd? Why are they treating them as if they were constitutionally immune from prosecution? So many questions.

Onnoghen isnt among those been investigated, it has nthing to do wit d incoming cjn.

Akinwerndey:
On what constitutional ground are these Judges are being arrested? Is there any warrant or evidence backing these arrests? This government is quenching the little light of hope some us are having in Nigeria....

the ground for arrest are bibery among others, THE dss has a warrant and claims to have evidence, d matter will appear in court on monday

biggy26:
Arresting anyone isn't a problem, but d manner and style of arrest no matter what shouldn't be military style. We might over look this today, but tomorrow it could be ur person.

NA today u sabi how naija take dey arrest?

TonyeBarcanista:
How does due diligence substitute for Arrest Warrant?

THe other news sources clarified that d dss had a search and arrest warrant. all due diligence was followed.

Babalawos:
You have alot to learn......................

Continue, so babalawos in yoruba land use bini language? or is that a bini specific prayer

MENELIK1:
I challenge the Oba of Benin and you to spell the word "OBA" using Benin alphabets

since when yoruba get alphabet?

macof:
Nah. . bini people have been showing for some years that they want to be as far away from yoruba as possible. .it's cus they can't stand staying around us without feeling intimidated which the bini pride cannot accept.

but we claim what is ours - The Oba of Benin. .who is a yoruba son

OR because one ooni was intimidated by akensua and thought the best way to exult himself was to call akensua his son, instead of father and elder brother.

macof:
who told you this? Ekaladerhan
bini and inferiority complex towards yorubas is just epic. And it wasn't always like this o. .. There was a time Bini were proudly in brotherhood with the Yoruba kingdoms

Until ooni made the mistake of calling the oba his son during a curtesy visit.

who has inferiority complex? akensua who visited or d ooni who was trying to exult himself, fantasizing dat d oba is his son.

MENELIK1:
Yoruba grew to an empire in pre colonial history, they defeated the fulanis at the battle of Osogbo in 1840, then your fore fathers were walking naked, forget what the Osus are saying about Yoruba people they are yet to recover from 1967-1970 bashing from gallant Yoruba soldiers. Lastly it is wrong to make comparison between the Yorubas and the Benins rather compare benin with sectional Yoruba like the Ijebus, egbas and the rest but don't use Ibadan, it is almost like the size of Edo state. Man Pass man, no be by mouth

I see u are joking, can ibadan compare to the bini empire in its prime that span into ondo, ekiti, lagos, delta... Who did ibadan rule? You are comparing a clan to an empire.

Taryur3:
Go and sleep,u need rest. I dnt care wtever u think of.am just happy on how Wike acted to resist those goats.

Yeah u are so happy wike prevented security men from arresting an alledgedly corrupt judge. clap 4 urself.

kunletexs:
in as much as i applaud the efforts or intervention of the governor, i wish to ask if it was a judge of the state which is not friendly to the governor, would he have still stick his head out to do this?

another thing is if security operative can threaten to shoot a sitting governor, then the common man wey go look dey in trouble be that

If a governor is preventing a lawful arrest then he should be shot.

posh1:
Pls answer dis question wot is de meaning of "BLACK MASK "N wot is it 4 .............before u start making noise .........

Which black mask again?

latsy:
Yes , he was the least favored in ife throne hierachy, he wasn't pursued, he
left Benin after determining that the kingdom does not worth his time and
status giving the in unseriousness of the ruling chiefs.

Actualy he was pursued from benin, he never entered the city, his palace was in d outskirts of d city with d uzama. oramiyan wasnt granted access to benin because his distant cousin, d ogiamwen, had taken over d arms of government, military and finance. Oramiyan saw he was at a disadvantage, so he tuck his tail and ran away leaving a pregnant woman and shouting 'ile ibinu', he ran away so that his unborn son was left with the problems oramiyan couldnt fix. With d help of d chiefs eweka won (they did a good job) and oramiyan ran back to his old father to cry, requesting for power, he couldnt wait for oduduwa to die so he was granted d right to collect revenue from his brothers, that is how he bcame alafin in oyo after runing away from benin. He was favoured.

macof:
will the coronation still be traditional valid without the Ekiokpagha treaty?

How will Oba of Benin claim sovereignty without Ogiamien selling it to him?

the oba has sovereignty, with or without the treaty, the treaty was to prevent futher bloodshed between family member. besides the treaty didnt hold in d last coronation, the battle was re-enacted but the traditional payment wasn't given. the ogiamwen lost to eweka, the treaty is simply a declaration of no victor, no vanguished, that is y d items of payment isnt much.

since there is no ogiamwen in utantan, a representative of d family will participate in d ritual with the ediaken. that satisfies the ritual requirement.

Babalawos:
Olokun Incantation



Olokun Incantation Interpretation

(Bring the bell / Bring the iron rod / That I can use to serve my Olokun/ So that I can live as my spirits wish / We have met ourselves / Spirits of the water).

Olokun Explanation

Olokun great Goddess of the sea is a powerful and benevolent deity who can bring children, health, riches, and other blessings to those who worship her.

One of her praise names is Oba n' Ame No Se No Rre Oke (The King {Queen} of the Sea Is Greater Than the King {Queen} of the Land).

Olokun has a palace of cowries in her kingdom beneath the sea but the oba (king) of the land does not.

Thank you for reading, leave a comment

I thought babalawos were yoruba, how come u are using a bini incantation?

Ishilove:
Experience, though not personal.

Olokun is a marine spirit, and when all these marine spirits want something from someone or a family, they make life a living hell for that family/person. They reduce the person to zero, dispatch spirit husband (Oko orun okuku) to further to torment their victim, and in some cases kill the loved ones of their victim or even the victim herself.

Unlike the kingdom of the Most High God, there's no free will in marine kingdom, especially if they have a legal ground in that person's life through soul ties or covenants.

There's nothing wonderful about them. They're very wicked, stubborn and uselessly proud.

as i read this i remembered that d reason God can do no wrong is becos he is d judge of right and wrong. u know Yahweh in d old testament promises also to disturb d generations of those who forsake him. do u think it is ok when Yahweh does it and bad when olokun does it?

engrchykae:
but the looters are all around the president eg obj,saraki,Tinubu,Atiku,Sanusi,Abdusalami Abubakar,TY danjuma,Amaechi,fashola that used a billion naira to develop website.

You forgot the burden called proof. fash use a billion naira for website but u that isnt a crime, he didnt price d website, no one can prove he recieved a dime from the transaction or broke any law. call a big figure doesnt secure conviction, proof does. if there is proof of foul play let d judges be arrested.

WIKE should be very careful here, if the DSS has a warrant for d arrest of d judge, the wike is aiding in resisting arrest.

his office will not insulated him for ever, he is overstepping his boundary. the security operative have d right to arrest people, even judges, even at night, all they need in this case is an arrest warrant. if they have a warrant they wike is wrong and promoting illegality.

solite3:
do angels do those things?

i thought u have been reading the scripture passages on d thread.

emmasege:
Are you guys aware that Late Ooni Adesoji Aderemi was the Governor General of the old western region which included the whole of southwest and the old Bendel State? The choice and preference of Ooni to the likes of Oba of Benin, Alaafin of Oyo & Olowu of Owu says it all, and you guys should not create false history.

The truth that you guys hate to hear and try to suppress is that: OBA OF BENIN IS ONE OF THE SEVEN GRANDSONS OF ODUDUWA WHOSE ONLY SON WAS OKANBI.

that was a political move made by awolowo.

waldigit:
Always with something to say in defense.
I tell you one day you will have nothing to say in defense again.

That day will never come. truth alway trumps lies.

Gombs:
The world can see how you failed to comprehend simple analogy.

Thanks for your time sir.

and the world can see u shifting the goal post, first you claim we have no covenant with God, scripture shows u are wrong, we do have a covenant with God mediated by Jesus, now u shift d goalpost and start talking about a covenant with Jesus.

solite3:
It seems you don't know what intercede mean.
intercede
verb (intercedes, interceding; past and past participle interceded) - (intransitive) To plead on someone else's behalf. - (intransitive) To act as a mediator in a dispute; to arbitrate or mediate. - To pass between; to intervene.

now read again.