₦airaland Forum

NOHOLDSBAR:
Criminal Association of Nigeria - CAN is a cancer in the fabric of this Nation. The Muslim organizations have allowed the the criminals in the CAN to get away with too much false narratives and and propaganda for too long.
These religious criminals should be exposed for what they are, religous thieves and hypocrites.

It is not the same thing muric has been doing?

both religious organisations are birds of a feather.

jcross19:
lol Bible was compiled by the order of Constantine in 322 or more AD by the synods google is your friend. Constantine influence many Roman Catholic decision.

Bible was not compiled by order of constantine and no respected historian will say such.

jcross19:
which church elders? the elders that was established by Constantine and Constantine was the emperor or ceaser of that time. so it was established by roman empire.

Constantine didnt elect elders or bishops. presbyters were chosen by their bishops. Bishops were chosen by fellow bishops or/and their flock. It will take many years after d death of constantine before any emperor had any kind of influence in chosing bishops.

So here we have it, Jehovah itself was a word created by mixing up 2 names.


Erasmus made 2 edition without the comma in the 16th century, and nobody beat him up or took him to the church court for wrongful translation, the church didnt excommunicate him but allowed the 2 editions without the comma!

So please tell us which letter u have that shows that Erasmus was forced even those the clearest explanation is that he used a different manuscript?

jcross19:
that's what am saying! the 7books were there in the beginning but removed later by some set of Christian. the issue is that most of Christian doctrine and written today were orchestrated by roman empires which form the roman Catholic.

Not exactly the Roman Empire didnt make any doctrine, the christian bishops usually in council were the ones who decleared doctrines.

IAmSabrina:
Yeah, Martin's theology contradicted them. Therefore, he declared them to be non-authoritative. Just like he tried to do with a bit of the New Testament (that whole sola scriptura thing is harder to take seriously when you think about how he got there by dropping the bits that he disagreed with). They must have been eventually dropped off in the end to save on printing costs

he simply stood as judge over scriptures and decided for himself which to accept and which to reject and how to interprete.

jcross19:
it was group of church elders headed by martin Luther I think so.

It was martin luther and martin luther and martin luther, he didnt call a council for consultation he decided this on his own and others followed.

jcross19:
roman Catholic were the first to compile bible in a single book and then all these 7books op was talking about were there from the beginning but the protestant removed them other Christians except Catholic make use of Protestant bible now. there were many books written by Paul that were not added to this bible today it was a strict law and the harshness of his rules so the synod's then removed it from the reading so that it won't cause severe division in the future

Actually all the ancient churches still use those 7 book, the oriental, the orthodox and the the catholic communion. it is the protestants and post 16th century churches that dont use them

jcross19:
we are missing things here! first bible of today were written a script, a scroll or parchment before it was compiled to be in a single book! in 4 centuries AD when they compiled the bible a decree was made by then ceaser Constantine and many scrolls were examined, more than 1000 scriptures were gathered but only the few were compiled together while others were burnt and the remain were kept in the Vatican archive. in Ethiopian Coptic bible contains more than 88 or 100 books . if you doubt it google is your friend.

have you seen the original list compiled in the 4th century? because i have seen it, all those 7 book were among from the 4th century
Google council of hippo.

The reason the ethopians have over 80 books is becos they kept adding more books since the canon was not closed.

chakula:
Your response is very close to the trust which many Christians won't tell you.

But this Martin of a man who gave an authority to temper with God words? And why the then Christians failed to take action and must make sure such practice has do away with it?

It will be a big slap in the face of Christians for working with Bible as holy book while a mere mortal has tempered with it and no action has been taken.

he had no authority to do it but he did it any way.
martin luther was excommunicated but he had political support and so continued his thing.

Some others like john calvin and co joined him and replicated some of his teaching.

Those guys began the protestant communities, and so protestants use their books

AJAMTG

chakula:
A learned men of God should kindly assist with a mature response.

Why the seven books have left out from other denomination Christians bibles?

Why the holy book as you claim will be into a different version?

And which Bible are we to believe as authentic?

they were removed by the founder of protestantism Martin Luther in the 16th century because some of those books were against his doctrines.

So he stopped using the Christian accepted 7 books a chose the jewish canon instead. Martin luther also didnt like the book of james becos it was against his teaching, he called it a book of straws but he couldnt find an excuse to dump it. For the 7 books he had an excuse the mainstream jew after d distruction of the bible werent using them.

payosehtor:
some of those books never mate the standard.e.g the book of Baruch (stand to be corrected with the spellings) was a Secretary to prophet Jeremiah, ask yourself if you have a book by the prophet and one by his secretary who's book should be considered authentic or who among the two was inspired?

Who set the standard abeg? was mark and luke not disciples of peter and paul and yet they have 2 gospels and 1 epistle between them a total of 3 books.

Should we throw those book out because they arent the original apostles?

RTSC:
The two boys sat on the ground, while the little girl ran to daddy's throne.

Ofcuz d girl child gets the freedom

Born2Breed:
Don't worry, things will change soon.

If not for the internal wrangling btw OBJ,Igbinedion and Annenih then, Oshiomole would have gotten nowhere.

See yeye talk

ruffhandu:
So GTB said if they pay 8B on behalf of customs they'll go bankrupt?

They denied the news entirely before, now it only affects Customs.

It doesnt affect gtb as an entity, they will simply debit custom's account.

Soulmender:
Government always coming to reap where they did not sow...... In America the government provide for you right from birth, support you in every way they can so when you grow up and start making it, you give back to government by paying tax to enable them support the dependent population (children and aged) . We'll keep evading tax unless government does something to support the citizens

How do you want the goverment to provide all that american amenities when we dont pay tax? or they told u america became a super power before american began paying tax?

emeka2847:
The point is how many overall? And do you present only one state as your bargaining chip?

So you must win everything before you will carry an entire region along in their own country?

Janosky:
I mean the pressure the Church placed on him to alter the 3rd edition of his Bible translation to suit Catholic belief in the Trinity even it was not in concord with the manuscript text.


If today you are not calling Christ by his actual Hebrew name (Yehoshua) but rely on the English variant of his Greek name, you are guilty of double standard and hypocrisy to have labeled the name 'Jehovah' as "mistake"

Actually jehovah is not an english variant, erasmus manufactured the name by mixing the vowels of adonai to the consonants of the tetragram, at least we can trace the variants of Jesus' name from hebrew and aramaic to greek, then to the latin Iesus and then to english. nobody mixed different names together and manufactured a new one!

It will be beautiful if u can provide d letter from d church to Erasmus forcing him, let us see if it was not the case that erasmus was using a different and unpopular manuscript

Vellichor:
Allow her to sleep in his bed?!

yes ma'am,

sometimes this advise is important so i hope you'll remember it: "Observe all things, correct a few and ignore most"

The little you correct will adjust the most u ignore.

Sometimes the easiest way to drive your kids away is to pontificate on all their mistakes.

If u trained them well ab initio, then their mistakes will be self correcting, point the genre out, they will adjust to the particulars.
how is ur day going?

babyfaceafrica:
are u saying SE. needs a position to be able to have someone to speak for them?...do SE believes in leaders?..even ekeremadu who was DSP for 8 years..how has that benefited them?...las las SE will be alright

Actually everybody need leaders in goverment, it is goverment that provides public facilities.

Ekweremadu actually benefited the east, rural connecting roads are going on in enugu, umunya and 2nd niger bridge in anambra...all passed thru senate.

Janosky:
The wayo of the Bible translator, Erasmus is the "truth" of the Catholic church .

Oh i remember Erasmus, he was the german translator and priest who mistakenly translated Yahweh as Jehowah and it is that same mistake jws are using till today.

as long as jw continue to us jehovah they are actually following erasmus mistake.
sorry.

babyfaceafrica:
why should I forget the insult..have you seen me insult anyone here?...if people can make a cement without insult or jibes..they don't deserve to be considered

This is also true.

babyfaceafrica:
why is the SS not complaining

why SE?...

Because SS believe oshiomole who is from the SS will fight their battle so no issues.

Besides omo-agege who apc would have given a position lost in court, the other ranking senator is francis and he is oshiomoles tribe person so he is not bothered, he knows he will be ok las las.

SE needs someone to speak 4 them now more than ever.

babyfaceafrica:
during Jonathan regime SW did not have no one to 5 position...did the nation boil?..no!!!..so why should SE be aggrieved now?....you win some and lose some

is it not tinubu that made sure SW dont have leadership by siding a northerner? Did the then ruling party not make provisions for SW?

It will be injustice if APC doesnt make provision for SE

sonature1:
For the very first time, Okorocha is not blaming the Igbos for the way they voted. This is what I've always expected of him, but he keeps disappointing me.

Well, it's a good thing that his party is sending him a very strong message: there's no place for Igbo man in the party.

2023 will be super interesting because we will see what will become of the party when Buhari's tenure ends. Buhari is the biggest asset of the APC of today.

I dont like all this sentimental rubbish. who pursue rochas becos he is igbo? is this not thf greedy guy who wanted his son inlaw after him and killed his party's chances becos of greed and helped pdp win?

babyfaceafrica:
all these kids with insult..bye!!

Actually he made a solid point, forget the insult, what he said is actually true.

babyfaceafrica:
politics does not work that way.. if na village or family .meeting... it will matter..you sow then reap!!!

That is exactly how national politics work, you cant remove an entire region from the nation's leadership becos they didnt vote your party. There are APC SE senators, let the party make sure they balance the 6 regions

emeka2847:
Thanks Bro.
This is what you get when you arrogantly put all your eggs in one basket. All regions have both APC and PDP except the SE and SS that have come to see PDP as their own regional party. It's very annoying to always play politics so carelessly and then come around crying. Position skewed like votes were skewed, so it's perfect. As a region, we must learn to hate less and work with objectivity.

Is Edo nolonger SS?

seborrhic:
Thought this fool was amongst those that said once the SEast elects senators,the SP seat will by right be yielded to them.
This is 2019.
SEast has now got about 5 senators,yet the region is not even being given a thought for the SP,DSP, Speakership or indeed any other post.
Okorocha is fit only for a role as a clown in a circus show.

Are u sure there are up to 5 SE apc senators?

I believe even though they can find just 1 ranking apc SE senator they should give him\her leadership position.

The nation is too volatile to be unbalanced.

babyfaceafrica:
who cares.....politics is politics.. you can t reap where you did not sow!!!..is it unbalanced....yes!!!..but in politics..you sow..then reap.....no sentiments attached

IT IS NATIONAL POLITIC NOT PARTY POLITICS. The whole nation should be carried along.

And this is my religion :


Jesus Christ is the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE.


Your Pastor is not the way, the truth and the life, your church is not the way ,the truth ,and the life ,and the catholic sure aint got nothing to do with Christ.

In the name of Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. amen.