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Nodogragra4me:
You have come again with your distorted bible defence of ignorance. Somebody sleeping on iron bed is the same as fasting. Sleeping on an iron bed for the sins of the world when the express command is for us all to go into the world and preach the goodnews ... promoting Mary in place of Jesus Christ even when Mary can’t possibly answer the prayer of his households not to mention the entire world

Your usual anti catholic story again. sleeping on iron bed is abt mortification.

brainhgeek:

Can you back up this claim with a Bible verse sir? I need enlightenment on the fact that Christians should practice mortification because of the death of Jesus.

1 cor 9:27, rm 8;13.

It is easy to provide the passages but i doubt u will understand them since ur christian background doesnt include them that is why i said u should research it urself.

brainhgeek:
Christ became our sacrifice and Passover. You can't suffer for the sin of the world or yourself all in a bid to appease God. If that is a prerequisite to redemption then, don't you think Jesus died in vain? Fasting is best done to appreciate and honor God amongst other reasons however.

Jesus' death is the very reason christian practice mortification (puting to death the desires of the flesh and training the spirit man) by grace! We fast also to put the flesh under the domination of the spirit.

Reelmii:
what I dont understand is the fact that he sleeps on iron bed and stone pillow




please is that part of the 10 commandments

Google christian mortification and maybe you'll get a little insight.

It is the same reason john the baptist ate just locust and honey, wore skin and lived in the wilderness, it is the same reason we all fast and married people abstain from sex,...

Toks2008:
The irony is that he spent all his life IDOLISING MARY thinking he was doing the right thing.

Let GOD be the judge. R.I.P sir.

While you idolise yovr pastors and celebrities.

Let God be the judge!

BabaCommander:
Call them what they are, Roman catholics. Calling them catholics distorts their true identity.

It is catholics, the 'roman' adjective naturally refers to catholics practicing the roman rite.

deltateam:
This is wickedness. Please tell me the mofo that did this to my Messi got a red card and a fine.

There's no explanation for this except a mad desire to win at all cost.

If you can't get the ball, never miss the man?

Smalling got the ball

wilddee:
This is my only problem with Osho Baba, he talks too much. That was how he ruined APC governorship primaries in Rivers & Zamfara

#bewarned

How did osho ruin rivers and zamfara primaries?

papascode:
How can a party choose who will be a Senate president . It is an insult when you have former Governors like Oshomole seated in the Senate. It is an insult!!! Irrespective of party divide, senators are United when seated in the red chambers. It's a fraternity on its on class. Oshomole messed up.

Yov are not informed about politics.
Even in the US th e majority party has a heavy voice in chosing leaders in congress.

The senate is always partisan, everywhere it is partisan, infact in advanced democracies almost every senator votes according to party. no fraternity anywhere

MadeInTokyo:
Oshoomole always scattering things any where he goes

Look at how several APC primaries were nullified by the courts, because Oshiomole didn't follow the right process.

So osho personally conducted the primaries in those places abi?

300wayne:
7. John Gerard
John Gerard is the only person ever known to have escaped from the notorious Tower of London. A Jesuit priest, Gerard was imprisoned for continuing to preach his Catholic beliefs when the church was under heavy persecution from Elizabethan England. During his imprisonment, he endured several interrogations, often being tortured for information. He never broke, but was eventually sentenced to death for his “crimes”. Desperate to escape, Gerard communicated with allies on the outside via smuggled notes written in invisible ink made from orange juice. These allies rowed a boat into the Tower’s moat and Gerard was able to escape by using a rope thrown up to him. Cheating death after almost falling because of his tortured hands, Gerard managed to climb down to the boat, flee England and live the rest of his life in Rome.

His friends were murdered there. Tank God he escaped

sharpwriter:
Abi ...that is one of the problems with us ... perhaps maybe that is why God hasn't raised up great prophets like him in our generation, because we go turn am to God and idolize him and they become a snare to us. I dont know if whites do worship at the graves of Smith Wigglesworth or William Branham or the likes... we never read about this with ppl of the early church and thegraves of the apostles

Then u didnt read very far, mind you the bible didnt record the death of the apostles but the records of people going to their graves to pray is very ancient.

Have u ever wondered why st peter's basilica is a popular place for catholics and orthodox christians? becos it is the church built on the grave of apostle peter and people have been praying there for 2000yrs.

Janosky:
What was the fate of individuals who expressed dissent to Catholic Church doctrines or opposed the Vatican official position in the 1400/1500?
What was the fate of Michael Servetus who rejected the Trinity?

What would be the fate of Erasmus if he had declined to insert the Comma Johanneum (a fraud the Catholic Church staunchly supported for over 300 hundred years after the deed was done)?

OK na , provide me with the letter where the Vatican endorsed Erasmus to translate the Bible in the 1515.

It seems u are ignorant, severus was killed by his fellow protestants in geneva under john calvin, the vatican didnt touch him.

It is easy to find the pope approval of erasmus work, google 'privilege of publication to erasmus by pope leo x'

Born2Breed:
Its a taboo!!!

it is a taboo for many cultures but it seems some others allow it.

Born2Breed:
I remember when one of your cousin for Canada here wey never enter Nigeria for three years call us to come join am do naming ceremony that his wife has given birth to a baby boy.

How una take dey do am sef? Una dey use Whatsapp give una wife Belle?

I think in some parts your brother can impregnate your wife on your behalf.

Some things u dislike others allow.

budaatum:
I don't think I am Uben. I assure you that if my parents don't pay my school fees, buy me books, feed and house me so I can study, they are committing a 'sin' which I would bear the consequences of and therefore will gladly call it an ancestral sin since I inherit the hell burning they inflict on me through no fault of my own. But Adamic sin and original sin is mythical, to me.

Lol, let me suggest you read up ancestral sin from an orthodox/eastern catholic perspective, then read up original sin from an augustinian western perspective then add original sin from the catholic catechism and then total depravity from a protestant perspective...this will show you the different varieties and then u can critique them individually without mixing stuff up.

Do u believe in D adamic story itself?

sojics:
So He has realised what he is expected to be doing?

he didnt start all this today, he has been doing charity for a long time.

He has a point oh!

aadoiza:
Wetin Concern JPMorgan here? JPMorgan was suspicious of the money, and reported to the regulators. Nigerian government should invite that Etete guy and former president GEJ over for a cup of coffee.

You no sabi nigeria? when they invite them some people will start shouting witch hunt, maginalisation, islamisation agenda, northern agenda etc? and then they will arm militants to prevent thes thieves from been probed.

It is clear only 1 person in the first page read the OP.

This shows that Jonathan was a theif who joine Dan Atete in defrauding his country to the tune of $1.1 billion.

Abacha remitted his original sale of $2 million even those it was well under the true vale of the oil well. but Jona sold for $1.1 billion a gave the money to Atete and his friends.

That is a killing.

Gbagbuo247:
Is CATHOLIC the only church that can fix Easter date?




Back your answers with fact.

Yes, since before the council of Niceae the church of rome and alexandria have been fixing the date of easter.

If you need confirmation read up the council of niceae.

All I asked is to provide proof of the vatican pressuring Erasmus and instead you provided a protestant site to reinforce your claim.

So i take it you cant provide me with the letter from the vatican pressuring Erasmus?

sniperr007:
Let me try
ML was well read and he even translated the Bible to German..
Thing is that he had lots of questions and the ones he couldn't answer, he condemned.
After all, he seemed like the most enlightened man in Germany.
Hence his rejection of those books, reason cos he couldn't trace it to it's source or origin.
As regards Hebrew, it was widely accepted then that it was written by Paul. In fact that Paul wrote 13 books & it was until the 18th century or so(not sure ) that debates about the book Paul wrote started.

So you can't blame ML for his action. He did as he was expected.

Lol, luther wasnt the first to translate the bible in germany, in fact Erasmus had made 3 editions of the bible as did others who translated the german bible....

How do u justify calling james an epistle of straws?

Budaatum hope you are not attacking a strawman, there are different versions of adamic sin, ancenstral sin, original sin...etc. Which of the shades are you rejecting

IdreamOfUnicorn:
You cant dispute the fact that there are few Yoruba Reverend fathers in d Catholic Church. Probably because majority of Catholics in Nigeria are Igbo. Also in Christ embassy the members of the central executive council are all from Edo state like pastor Chris oyakhilome, because they were foundational members & have been in the ministry longer working with him.
Only a twisted person will start bringing tribe into d matter.

Not true, the leaders of the catholic church are bishops, and you will find them in almost every part in nigeria. there are roughly equal numbers of igbo and yoruba active bishops and more hausa speaking bishops.

There are no foundation tribe dominating leadership.

The igbos have ordained more priests but leadership is still well spread.

IdreamOfUnicorn:
mention another person. Finding a Yoruba Catholic leader is like finding a needle in a haystack

Alfred Adewale Martins of lagos, Ayomaria Atoyebi of ilorin, should i keep going?

IdreamOfUnicorn:
cause the church is attended by predominantly Yoruba people. Or do you see people complaining about how there are no Yoruba leaders in Catholic churches

so alaba job was a muslim?

Janosky:
Mr man you can't dodge the truth.
For over 2 centuries,Your Pope never issued formal rebuttal of Johannine comma.
As a result of discovery of older more authentic Greek manuscripts, there were growing awareness among bible scholars that Erasmus third edition translation had a dubious insert in 1john5:7.
In 1897,the Catholic Church issued that decree to back the Johannine comma rather than flow with the growing wave of dissent to the TR. for obvious reasons-

That decree was issued 300 years after the death of erasmus. So tell me how that proves that the vatican was pressuring erasmus in germany after his death?

Janosky:
Your Catholic church owned website confirmed the Catholic Church "cautioned its scholars against rashly rejecting or doubting the authenticity of the passage(1st John 5:7 )",you are dodging the proof.
U no get your Pope phone contact? Call am nau?
Lol

Erasmus was a 16th century scholar, the document you are bringing was written in the 19th century abt 300 yrs after the death of erasmus.

So erasmus was instructed by the pope 300yrs after his death?
is that coherent in your mind?
that is what happens when u guys peddle false stories like ur false prophesies.

sniperr007:
He couldn't prove the books cos he didn't know it's source.
He had power so a man with power can do and undo.

Up till today nobody knows the source of the book of hebrew, should we also throw it away?

chakula:
I googled Constantine just now and I found that he accepted Christianity while on sick bed, if it was true then, to say it was under his authority the Bible was compiled or gave a directives to omit some part of it, sound ridiculous.

Constantine was a cathecumen for a long time, he was learning abt christianity, he had a bishop friend who was instructed to follow him around and baptise him at his death bed.
he had no hand in the bible compilation.

jcross19:
please google is your friend! written is different from compiling ooh because bible was in a script, scroll and parchments but compiled together by this order of emperor. let me shock you even the particular place Jesus was unknown but it was assumed by the mother of Constantine which her son, sent her for an investigation about the man called Jesus.

No emperos ordered the compilation of the bible
oga read up.