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obadiah777: ACTUALLY CURRENTLY WE ARE IN THE GENTILE EMPIRE AND THE LAST KINGDOM IN THE GENTILE EMPIRE IS THE ROMAN EMPIRE WHICH IS THE EMPIRE WITH 7 HEADS ( 7 HILLS OF ROME ) AND 10 HORNS WHICH LATER MORPHED INTO THE EUROZONE ( THE TEN HORNS MEANING 10 STRENGTHS OF EUROPE ) AND WHICH A PART OF IT BROKE OFF INTO AMERICA. THIS IS THE EMPIRE CONTROLLING THE WORLD NOW AND WOULD BE THE LAST EMPIRE BEFORE THE KINGDOM COMES, SO ACTUALLY YOU ARE WRONG. THE WHITE MAN IS CURRENTLY ON TOP. NOT FOR LONG THOUGH. HIS TIME WILL SOON BE UP

i thought u said d last empire is d american empire. Now u say its d roman/gentile.

Calculus12: My point is, if Obadiah is teaching falsehood, who gives Goshen et al the right to say its false? If Goshen et al can claim that their teaching is in line with the truth why can't Obadiah make d same claim?

Obadiah quotes from the bible, Goshen et al quote from d same bible; Obadiah interpretes based on what is in d bible, Goshen et al, interpretes based on the bible; Obadiah claims to be right cause he believes God's spirit inspires him; Goshen et al believes the spirit inspires them too.

So why then would Goshen et al consider their teachings infallible while obadiah's is occultic?

hehehe, relativism, it seems every depends on d angle from which u are looking, hehehe

Goshen360: First, I asked a simple question - How Joseph became the ONE that had s.ex with Mary to produce Christ? You're talking about history. All you have to do is show us from scripture where it says or lead to Joseph being the earthly father of Christ.



How does Joseph and Mary BECOMES "ERA OF THE GENTILES EMPIRE"? And how does that answer the question of Joseph had se.x with Mary to produce Christ? Now, you don't have to waste precious people's time. Go straight to the point and be brief in your answers so we can handle issues accordingly.

2. Where did you get that woman = doctrine IN THE BIBLE. Do you have scriptures or Hebrew\Greek meaning where you came to this conclusion? Please show us. The thing is, you cannot just make a statement and stamp it on truth.



Okay, virgin birth is a doctrine of the demons. No problem! That's where we are here. Lets see if it was not according to God's prophesy in Isaiah 7:14,

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

And this was fulfilled in Matthew 1:23,

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

For God to say a 'virgin', then it means a 'virgin'. Otherwise, you make God a liar and you corrupt the word. This is the issue you need address without distracting.

obadiah really loves his parables.

obadiah777: IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND HISTORY THEN ANSWERING THAT QUESTION FOR YOU WILL BE A WASTE OF TIME. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY CAN YOU TRACE HISTORY IN THE BOOK OF ZECHARIAH CHAPTER 5 AND DANIEL CHAPTER 7 AND 2 PETER CHAPTER 3 AND REVELATION CHAPTER 8 ? IN THOSE CHAPTERS IT TELLS YOU HOW IN THE ERA OF THE GENTILES EACH EMPIRE THAT IS CROWNED WILL HAVE ITS OWN DOCTRINES ( AN EPHAH OF WICKEDNESS ) ( ALSO CALLED A WOMAN. YES WOMAN IN THE BIBLE MEANS DOCTRINES ) WILL PASS AND MORPH FROM ONE EMPIRE TO THE NEXT AND THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD WOULD BE DECIEVED BY THESE DOCTRINES, ONE OF WHICH IS THE VIRGIN BIRTH. IT IS A DOCTRINE OF DEMONS. IT IS THE WORSHIP OF WOMEN. IT IS THE WORSHIP OF THE QUEEN OF HEAVEN.

this is frosbel's line, frosbel and co, i'm suprised u don't recognise ur lines.

FOLYKAZE: It seems we got lot of fellas from camp Goshen. Anyway, there is nothing special about that. Lets go back to what happens when Goshen360 and Obadiah777 are both on stage draggingly the slam.




https://www.nairaland.com/1034141/god-did-not-create-only/


this was a remark from Reyginus





Toward the end of the battle, Goshen360 started speaking in foreign language. He lost it and was no where to be found.


Judging from the survival match on Sep 01 , 2012; it is clear to us that Obadiah777 gave Goshen360 the greatest hit. Hmmmm, Goshen360 returns to his feet challenging Obadiah777 again.


I remembered a saying in Yoruba, "Agbo to tan di seyin, Agara lo mu wa" meaning "the sheep that reverse went to get more power". This is the reason Goshen360 is flooding in soldiers like goshap, frosbel and likes I don't wanna mention.


It a sunny sunday, and this match will be the greatest. Happy viewing

thanks for d context.

obadiah777: LINEAGE MEANS ALOT. THE NEXT RULERS OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD WILL BE RULED BY ONLY LINEAGE JEWS. 144,000 OF THEM. ALL NEGROS. THATS ONE REASON WHY IT IS IMPORTANT. BUT I WILL STOP THERE. IF I GET DEEPER I MAY CONFUSE YOU

hehehe, i couldn't help laughing, all negros? have u told them the white have d curse of cain?

frosbel: are you here for entertainment or to learn scripture brother.

One minute you believe in God, the next minute you are not sure , this is not entertainment, this is a battle for the truth.

this one cracked me up. Allow d man have his laugh.

obadiah777: SO WHATS YOUR POINT ? YOU HATE THE TRUTH ? YOU CANT STAND SOMEONE WHO IS NOT UTTERING SMOOTH WORDS LIKE YOU. THATS ALL THIS COMES DOWN TO. SCRIPTURE SAYS IF YOU HAVE THE REAL TRUTH YOU WILL GET HATED FOR IT. WHAT I HAVE IS THE TRUTH AND I CAN PUT MY LIFE ON THAT STATEMENT. AND THE FACT THAT THIS THREAD IS OPENED IS PROPHESY BEING FULFILLED. THE TRUTH IS HATED. THIS IS PROPHESY WE ARE EXPERIENCING. THIS IS HISTORY BEEN MADE. SCRIPTURE SAYS THERE WILL BE SCOFFERS IN THE LAST DAYS. THANKS FOR FULFILLING PROPHESY.

hehehe, frosbel also uses dat verse. I guess everyone is using whatever scripture he can find to support himself.

frosbel: Try not to use capitals letters, it implies you are shouting in an angry manner.

I might come across as hateful , when in fact I am only stating the obvious, Jesus is the Way , the Truth and the Life.

I have a serious problem with divisions created by diverse methods of identification in the body of Christ, such as Catholics, Pentecostals, Evangelicals, Baptists ,not to talk of the thousand upon thousands of sects that exist within these various groups.

Christ called us to ONE calling, in ONE Body and answerable only to ONE Spirit , not self appointed MOG and charlatans who like the Hebrew Israelites are misleading, leading and misdirecting countless thousands into error, myth and old wives fables.

i though u guys concluded catholics weren't part of the body of Christ. Have you decided to add the catholics back?
Hehehe.

obadiah777: SAYS THE MAN WHO WILL ONLY BOW DOWN TO THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST. GO AND SIT DOWN SOMEWHERE YOU REPROBATE

hehehe.

musKeeto: Another one added to Frosbel's HAC list..

H - Hate
A - Abuse
C - Condemn

On the list:
Catholics.
Trinity.
More Catholics.
Atheists.
Muslims.
Tithers.
Pope.

lastly catholic church

obadiah777: WELL I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING. A SPIRITUAL MAN JUDGES ALL THINGS

1 CORINTHIANS 2 VS 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man AND FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN OF GOSHENS POSTS, I DONT THINK HE HAS THE HOLY SPIRIT IN HIM. HE PREACHES DOCTRINES OF DEMONS. VIRGIN BIRTH IS AN ANCIENT BABYLONIAN DOCTRINE BETWEEN SEMIRAMIS NIMROD AND TAMMUZ. IT IS THE QUEEN OF HEAVEN WORSHIP. THIS DOCTRINE GOT PASSED ALONG TO THE MEDIOPERSIAN EMPIRE ONTO THE GREEK AND THEN THE ROMAN EMPIRE MADE A RELIGION OUT OF IT CALLED ROMAN CATHOLICISM. THESE ARE PAGAN DOCTRINES. SCRIPTURE SAYS DO NOT GO INTO THE WAY OF THE GENTILES. THIS IS CLEARLY A COMMAND FROM GOD YET GOSHEN IS ESPOUSING GENTILE DOCTRINES. THAT MAKES HIM A REPROBATE AND AN ANTICHRIST. AND DONT GET BENT OUT OF SHAPE ABOUT THE WORD 'ANTICHRIST'. IT JUST MEANS SOMEONE WHO IS CONTRARY TO WHATS IN THE BIBLE. CHRIST IS THE BIBLE. CHRIST IS THE WORD OF GOD WHICH IS THE COMFORTER. THE WORDS IN THE BIBLE IS THE COMFORTER. THE WORDS IN THE BIBLE IS THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST. IF YOU GO CONTRARY TO IT YOU ARE AN ANTICHRIST. GOSHEN IS AN ANTICHRIST

REVELATION 19 VS 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. <<< CHRIST IS THE WORD OF GOD WHICH IS THE WORD IN THE BIBLE. IF YOU PREACH CONTRARY TO IT, YOU ARE AN ANTICHRIST. GOSHEN PREACHING THAT QUEEN OF HEAVEN DOCTRINE FROM THE ANCIENT BABYLONIAN EMPIRE WHICH WAS INSTITUTIONALIZED AS A RELIGION BY THE ROMAN EMPIRE, MAKES HIM AN ANTICHRIST

hehehe, i guess you gat a point. If frosbels and co research say mary is just a modified seramis what stops u from saying d virgin birth is also part of d seramis stuff. You simply completed their theory.
Weldone.

I haven't yet read obadiah say "u do err not knowing scripture" i havent read about d new guys on his pharisee list. Still reading though

obadiah777: THE TRUE WORD OF GOD IS BRINGING THE DEMON OUT OF FALSE PROPHET GOSHEN. LOL. I LOVE THIS CARRY ON. I WILL BE A SPECTATOR

obadiah this ur first response was a cracker.
I guess i'll use this thread as liesure dis evening.

Goshen360: In recent times on this forum, Obadiah777 had been teachings the doctrines of demons and spreading false teachings of the occult under the disguise of Christianity or that he is teachings the truth. Today, I PERSONALLY begin to refute, contend and expose the false and occult teachings of Obadiah777. I also invite other bible teachers to join me as we present biblical sound doctrine to expose every occult teachings and stop demon produced teachings of Obadiah777.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Have nothing to do with the useless works that darkness produces. Instead, expose them for what they are. Ephesians 5:11

Obadiah777 had been teaching among others the followings:

1. That Joseph is the father of our Lord Jesus Christ hereby denying the virgin birth according to scriptures.

2. That most events (approx. 90%) NEVER happened but that they were mostly parables, allegory and symbolic.

3. That God didn't create ONLY Adam and Eve but many men and women. This is falsehood in the light of Romans 5:17; Romans 5:12 and Romans 5:14.

4. That Satan\serpent is the father of Cain by having se.xual intercourse with Eve; Adam is not the father of Cain and Cain is the offspring of Eve and the serpent, not of Adam and Eve.

Attention: If anyone knows any false teachings taught by Obadiah777 that is not mentioned above, kindly bring it up so I CAN PERSONALLY EXPOSE THIS ACCOMPLISHED LIAR by presenting a sound doctrine from the word of God. The integrity of God's word MUST be preserved from corruption of false\cult teachers such as Obadiah777.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
There are many believers, especially converts from Judaism, who are rebellious. They speak nonsense and deceive people. They must be silenced because they are ruining whole families by teaching what they shouldn't teach. This is the shameful way they make money. Titus 1:10

i'm only 3hrs late and d thred is already over 7 pages. Obadiah is an enigma.
For him there is nothing like d evil one.

Boomark: So what is the ratio of fake pastors to fake priest who molest little children?

i guess italo pasted some numbers.
As for ijawkid, i won't wait my time redebunking d arguements i already debunked.

Goshen360: Thank you bro. God bless you for the above.

you're welcome, amen and amen!

italo: Ijaw**d, Boom**k, Christemmb****y.

*SUSPECTED LUNATICS DETECTED AND IGNORED*

a wise choice i must say.

ijawkid: Abeg when ona dey use the rosary,they count the beads or what ever ona no dey repeat words of devotion or prayers??.....""When you guys repeat the hail mary mother of God please pray for us"" prayer don't you do that with the beads around your hands??.......

Why are you speaking like we are blind people ??....

Abeg see the definition of mantra:::

man·tra
[muhn-]

-n.
1. a word or formula, as from the Veda, chanted or sung as an incantation or prayer.


The buddhist use beads and just as they use it so does the catholics use the rosary(bead).........

and does dat say beads are restricted to d buddist alone?

Boomark: Is calvin a church like the roman church or an individual? maybe that individual and the roman church are birds of a feather.

go and read about d "reformed churches". U said d protestant were protesting d killing by d catholic church... Calvin was one of d progenitor of protestanism.

Enigma: @Ubenedictus

Do you agre with the statement below? Or do you think that such statements should be corrected and discouraged so as to prevent the spreading of falsehoods?

i already answered d question in d place where u first copied and paste it.

Boomark: If you want to discuss Sabbath, i will show you who the Lord of the sabbath is and what the apostles said about sabbath.

As for that Hidden Truth I Exposed about Catholics up there with the video, i am now feeling like apostle Paul. The one calling me fool now seems to be the foolish, bamboozled with dumbfoundment and infinite flabbergastation.

_{Walking majestically to the next thread to share holy kisses.}

ofcourse u must be feeling good about your grammer though they were not needed.

ooman: what is the love of God??

this is not a thread for arguement. I have no inclination to engage you here.

chukwudi44: "What the soul is to man's body, the Holy Spirit is to the Body of Christ, which is the Church. The Holy Spirit does in the whole Church what the soul does in all members of one body. But see what you must beware of, see what you must take note of, see what you must fear. It happens that in the human body, or rather, off the body, some member, whether hand, finger, or foot, may be cut away. And if a member be cut off, does the soul go with it? When the member was in the body, it lived; and off, its life is lost. So too, a Christian man is Catholic while he lives in the body; cut off, he is made a heretic; the Spirit does not follow an amputated member." St Augustine of hippo
Sermons, 267, 4, 391-430 A.D.

chukwudi please paste this in reyginus thread. This shows clearly that d early xtians considered the heretics outside d church.

chukwudi44: "We must hold to the Christian religion and to communication in her Church which is Catholic, and which is called Catholic not only by her members but even by all her enemies. For when heretics or the adherents of schisms talk about her, not among themselves but with strangers, willy-nilly they call her nothing else but Catholic. For they would not be understood unless they distinguish her by this name which the whole world employs in her regard."
St Augustin of hippo in The True Religion, 7,12, 397 A.D.

here augustin clearly says d heretics are different from the catholic church

Hahaha

Enigma: It would be a badge of honour for me to be called a heretic by Roman Catholics. The kind of thing that I'm complaining of that makes you want to call me a heretic was also complained of by men and Christians far greater than me --- like Cyprian of Carthage, like Augustine of Hippo. It is of course the kind of thing that led the Roman Catholic (though not them exclusively) to cause the Great Schism. And of course here we are today because of the recalcitrance of Roman Catholics.

i likened i didnt call u a heretic. Beside you have rejected the believes of augustine and cyprian i see no reason why u bring them to d evidence box.

Nah, official documents of the Roman Catholic Church add the 'Roman'; the last pope and the one before him referred to the church they headed as Roman Catholic.

Ah, by the way, go and read again the text of the "Habemus Papam" by which the Roman Catholic Church announces the appointment of its popes including the most recent announcement concerning Mr. Bergoglio --- and see whether the RCC is not referred to as Roman.

and that doesn't negate d fact that d tag came from d "anglo catholics"

Nah, not to read carefully and understand properly is to mislead yourself.

if u like u may continue to present quotes without context

Naah, I'm not going to bother myself about this here. I have already in the past dealt with that thoroughly. Let me just say Ignatius who first used the word "catholic" in relation to The Christian Church will not recognise what the Roman Catholics are now calling "catholic".

these are your words.

Honeric has decided to deviate d thread.
Una bye bye.

christemmbassey: the only truth i've ever heard from u, however, it applies only to the christian faith not catholic faith. Oh I wish ud bcome a christian.

hehehe, leave ur fantasy and enter reality.

peteregwu: you have misunderstood me or the bible. we dont merit holiness, neither do we deserve it. the bible says for all have sinned and ome short of the glory of God. rom 3:23. we are made righteous by the grace of Goe n Christ Jesus. so, trying to call somebody or uour pastor by th name, His holiness, is an abomination. we refer to ourselves as brother or pastor, considering ones position in the church. even in the bible, when a man rushed to Jesus and calling Jesus, "good master," Jesus replied him dont call me good for no man is good except God. now, you see what i mean? if Jesus as God Himself in flesh refusing to be called good, hw much more we sinners in flesh. my friend read youf bible.

*yawns*
no one merits righteousnes and no one deserves it. But my bible itself call christian "holy" the moment d merits of christ has been applied to them. If d bible bears witness that xtians are called holy what stops me from calling d next christian saint, holy, ur holiness?

Reyginus: Not actually. What I am asking is if images as used by the catholic church, just like the books of the bible, are inspired potraits of God?

interesting! I must ask you, is Jesus a mythical figure? Does he exist as an idea of faith alone?
My dear, d trinity is an idea of faith for which i may need inspiration, but d figure of jesus was seen, he lived on earth, his figure was put in portraits by the early christians. I dont need an inspiration to draw my grand mum, i drew her from memory, and if this my drawing still exist to my 20th generation, then d portriat can still be reproduced. My 20th generation don't need and inspiration they'll simply copy a copy of my drawings.

Reyginus: what is difficult to figure out here. Anybody can lay claim to anything, but the determinant factor is evident once the claim is called to action.
You just labelled arainism unchristain, I wonder why you are trying to justify them in the christain community. How a thing like you are trying to do works, I don't know.

read what i said not what u think i said, i said i consider heresy unchristian! I have a long list of heresy including protestanism. Yet all the adherent of heresy all claimed to be xtians and no one was particularly anxious to remove d title from them.

Reyginus: ofcourse I read it. The problem is that I don't know the doctrines of the jehovah witnessess.

ijawkid would be happy to enlighten you.
They say christ is a created being, an angel, actually they said jesus is angel michael. He isn't God.