₦airaland Forum

CorporateJay:
What sort of unintelligent statement is. This... Abraham. Had many children so you to should have... If you go by the Bible facts.. Abraham lived more than 5000 years ago... There was land and everything else to support those children.. The competition for resources was not this tough how many people were existing on earth then.. ... ...apart from availability of resources to everyone then.. Even the Bible said he was a very wealthy man with lots of gold... A rich man is allowed to have as much children as you want to.. If you can provide the necessary support for them... But a poor people... Should stick to one or two and not create problems for the society

Nice.

ikorodureporta:
if you have 2, & malaria come take one away, wetin you go do?!

I must born not less than 4.
If suffer comes, we suffer together.
That's what I've been thru

How will malaria claim one of your children if you’ve not been careless with their welfare? And please don’t wish suffering on your family.

Iya kin se omi obe.

beejay85:
My dear friend ,the challenge here is not in limiting yourself to two children ..it is challenging yourself to be self independent enough to cater for your family irrespective of how large...Ask any elder, Nigeria as a country has always been challenging irrespective of d time..
When cement was N2 per bag...those who built houses did,and others didn't...now that it's 2600 naira per bag... people are still improving houses and those who ll still cry times are hard will still cry(I won't be one)...
So it's not abt d no of kids ,it's about our ability to give Dem d very best

I think I understand you but I operating based on a set of beliefs that guide me & they tilt more western than African. It’s this thought pattern that God will take care of things that has led Nigeria to be the poverty capital of the world. And you, with all due respect, confuse yourself when you say Nigeria has always been tough because the current condition of Nigeria goes beyond the economic issues & goes to the very foundation of the country, where the northern part of the country has launched a jihadist civil war against the south & wish to wipe out 100 million Christians. I am sure you would agree with me that this is not a nation where you would want to bring more than 2 children into? Your approach to this problem should be guided by what you want for yourself & unborn children.

OgunLaakaye:
5

Haba!

Suicide

Ogunlaaakaye......the APC minion.

I thought you would like to have plenty children since you are Sai Baba zombie who abhors success & think all successful people are corrupt?

mechanics:
Having much children does not matter, what matters is the ability to train them effectively, therefore if one is not buoyant enough, he or she can make do with a child or two children, just like you have said, but for me am going for three children.

Good for you.

mechanics:
Having much children does not matter, what matters is the ability to train them effectively.

It takes much more than money, food & shelter to adequately cater for the emotional, spiritual & material needs of a well rounded kid.

permit:
that God someone is already validating my claims here maybe we should just allow the Southerners breed in peace

Southerners shouldn’t breed indiscriminately. Southerners should plan & be ready for the coming invasion. By plan, I mean have the number of kids you can take care of & prepare them like the state of Israel prepares its citizens for war at anytime with its hostile neighbors.

Psoul:
You spoke according to the level of practical experience you have.
Just be a little patient till you get married and and be in the game full time and we shall see how this you "outside the pitch rule" will hold.

In as much as u wanted to make sense by ur post due to the economic situations in this country, but don't beat ur chest that you will do better than those already in marriage when you are yet to enter the game.

Even the family planning you are talking of now, by the time u get married and its advantages and disadvantages are bn spelt out to u, you will even get confused to either go ahead or not. What is the woman that it is her body that the whole thing will be inserted or any other adopted method is reluctant to accept it?
What if in-between the 5yrs u want to wait for next baby and ur wife gets pregnant, will u abort the baby?

You might not have seen my earlier messages, I am very open to abortion. I won’t allow any moral doctrine or emotional blackmail to lead me into more poverty in a country like Nigeria. You still don’t get it. It’s not the many Children that really scares me, it’s the country Nigeria that scares me. The more perpetuate/immerse yourself here by having many kids, the more difficult it will be to get out at short notice. It’s only by the grace of God that Nigeria is not at war yet. With the passing of every single day, the possibility of war with a large population of northern terrorists becomes grimmer.

abdulizom:
This matter is simple:

If you like born half, I will born more that inshAllah my strength can carry.

When I'm struggling training 2 engineers, 3 lawyers, 4 accountants, 5 political scientists in ABU, UI or OAU

You can continue with your lawyer in Cambridge, he will come back to be a consultant or bloody civil servant under the Ministry any of my sons is heading.

Arrant nonsense!!!

You’re a Muslim so you don’t have any standing to even contribute to the discussion because it goes against your very being.

Good luck to you.

Freshprince91:
If God wan bless you when your time reach make your wife get belle born sextuplets at a time, may be you go chase her comot abi you go run away

If I see from a scan that they are septuplets, I will order an early term abortion. It’s a very simple mater my brother. I can’t stress myself with too many Children. Me & wife will enter ourselves better with fewer children.

grandstar:
If he wasn't born, it wouldn't matter as he won't even know. Nigerians population would have been much bigger if some Nigerians didn't stop at 2 and others at 4.

2 is best and 3 max.

I'm a Jehovah Witness and many well educated amongst us in my congregation stopped at 2. Others at 1.

uninspired07

The average in my own family is 1 kid & most of them live abroad anyways. I don’t know there average Nigerians who don’t have money to flee Nigeria have the guts to have more than 2 children with the instability the illiteracy northern poor is wrecking on Nigeria. People no dey fear?

TheOtherRoom:
I bet the OP isn't even married to have asked this question..
When you start having kids, you realise life is about caring for others and not only you

You’re right. I am single & when I marry, I will care intensely for the small nuclear family I have. I know how much it took to educate me in a moderate manner, let alone how much it will cost giving my kids the best in this very competitive contemporary world.

Alvin212:
The higher population is the only strength North have got over other regions.
This they know too well, that's why they keep popping out kids every now and then.
It gives them a noticeable edge during the election.

Sooner or later, Nigeria will be liberated from their strangle hold & they will be worse than chad. Just watch out. Make God no kill us.

swazpedro:
If only you know that number of children doesn't matter, the future is not yours to decide... Instance you give birth to 2 after training then, as University undergraduate one is mobbed and killed, your wife has reached menopause, how will you handled this instance... In burna's voice, God won't give you more than you can handle, if you like born 1,if you like born 12 pikin wey go great go great, parent wey go happy go happy

God forbid, but if they die, they die niyen. There are a lot of great people that are the only child of their parents. Justice Brett Kavanaugh & Justice Antonin Scalia both of the US Supreme Court were the only kids to their parents & they turned out great. Even Hillary & Bill Clinton had only Chelsea Clinton & she didn’t die after college.

It’s time Nigerians abandon this idea of burdening God with their fvck ups. It is especially expected of southerner who are not educated & exposed to have dropped this type of thinking. The idea of overpopulating the country is a relic of a past era which should be left with northerners.

Amanda4life:
If you are into farming you will not be afraid to have plenty children.

How many people are into farming these days? And if you really want to partake in viable Agricultural, you can apply for loans to buy tractors & machinery to undertake the venture. Why should you fill an overpopulated country with no future with more kids?

Saltybear:
Exactly

Form his write up you can tell is was born derth poor and maybe grew on a farm

Their reasoning is always if your parents planned you won't be here

So stupid

Please let’s not insult those who wish to have many children. It’s better to persuade them with logical argument.

AmarachiAshawo:
You want to leave for Fulani to take over your fatherland? Are you not a coward Running away from battle? Do you think every sane one will migrate, no, they will sit back and fight for what is theirs.

Run away coward!

Yes oooo, I want to run away from a shithole filled with terrorists. If you want to fight them, give birth to many children to enrol into your local militia.

HazzanTazzan:
Religion doesn't mean we should be stupid...

God never created condoms when he said we shld multiply through sex...

And he never said we can't have sex anytime... so what if the sex turned to pregnancy, does it mean we will stop having sex so as not to keep getting pregnant (assuming there were no condoms) ?

Best way is family planning and if it fails at any point, it's better to abort

We are saying the same bro. It’s better progressive youths always set the ground rules before marriage. If a girl I want to marry can’t agree to family planning, then no marriage. Nigerian stress is not easy to deal with as a single person, let alone with many children to cater for in marriage. 2 is the best to stop at & any other pregnancy should be aborted without remorse.

Amanda4life:
I don't see myself having less than 5 children.

The bible says we should be fruitful I beg

Which verse of the Bible instructed you to bring/multiply into poverty? Show me, I will go read it.

Blueelf:
Bros, how old are you? No insult but you sound quite immature.

You can plan and plan for the future yet, it'll remain unknown to you.

Have you seen families with 2 kids in abject poverty? Have you seen families of 8 living very well (rich in fact)?

Have 2 kids out of preference and not because of economy. Recession affects everyone; 2 kids or 10 kids. It doesn't factor the number of seed you have. Okay?

With 2 kids in poverty, you will manage better than 10 children in poverty. You’d recall I said this thread will annoy some people so I am not surprised at your anger. If you have many kids, my brother face your hustle ooo.

permit:
if only all other Nigerians thinks towards same direction as the op is doing. What are you going to tell the northern part then

The North can keep populating the earth with children, they will eventually inherit a Somali like nation filled with instability & war. Na dem sabo.

abdulizom:
All these stories of 2or 4 kids doesn't add up to me: on the contrary, why should one have even 4 kids in a country with low life expectancy, bad road and terrible health couple non functional educational system when I have the financial capacity to take care of dozen.

Our problem is that we copy the white without applying any sense of logic.
In our peculiar environment, please born as many as you can take good care of. If you don't, sure you'll take care of other people or relative responsibility.

My father had 21 lost 2, having 19 left we are all are virtually doing great, supporting each other.
Having experience joy of large family, I can never ask for a thin or slim family.

My father about 2 years acknowledging that he would have been dead 10 years to his time if not for the children he had.

Suleja-Minna road was blocked down for his Janaiza prayer cos crowd and personalities that attended the burial.

I have 4 kids now, attending one of the best schools in town and by His Grace more are coming.

I am Christian & a sotlutherner & my religion doesn’t teach me to have many children. In fact I am limited to one wife. If one is a northerner, it’s understandable if one births many children as the predominant religion other there & the culture encourages multiple birth. To each his own. But I would counsel that any reasonable southerner plans his family as Nigeria is not a good place to train kids.

AmarachiAshawo:
While you keep limiting children or follow family planning on not having more than 2 children, the North keep breeding for political reason and advantage. They will keep ruling and lording over us with their population advantage.

And you think some of us want to be Nigerians for ever? What’s my business with Nigeria? The North can have the shithole to themselves. The sane ones will eventually emigrate out of Nigeria with their families.

FromZeroToHero:
Sometimes it's our poor mentality that is causing it. I know a family that has 9 girls because they are looking for a Male child.

That’s the fear. Not having male children will hurt me personally but I wouldn’t thrust myself into poverty because of it.

Abagworo:
The harsh words some of you use on Nigeria amazes me.. There's room for all class of people to have as much children as they wish and take care of them.

Yes, I guess the constitution of Nigeria gives them the latitude to have as much children as they can but the real world will whip them into line when the bills & school fees pile up.

Why not have like 2 & give them your best? I rather look shabby & my children glow than giving birth to kids strangers wouldn’t even want to carry. I have many kids that I am not tempted to carry as it is evident that they are not well taken care of. Dem plenty well well for dis Lagos.

HazzanTazzan:
I have 2 already... a male and a female and that's it...

No more...

God help me raise them better than my parents raised me ...

If my wife get a pregnant, na to abort

Way to go!!!! Abortion straight even though I am a conservative Christian.

horlabiyi:
To be sincere things are not fair in this part of the world. If you earn less than 80k monthly you shouldn't have more than 2 kids but as you we leave all our things in the hand of God. You'll hear people say " God is the one taking the responsibility not human". I have a friend who was planning of having just 2 kids but unfortunately for him he now have 4 cos after the first child his wife got pregnant after like 3-4 years and gave birth to triplet and they are all doing fine.

Wow....triplets....I guess there’s no remedy to this one.

oldtruth:
You've made fantastic points and with the way you write, I can bet you are pretty above the mentality of an average Nigerian.

You've made your point and which any responsible human should agree with. Don't engage in words with anyone that thinks below what you've written because you will just be wasting your time.

Thumbs up

Thanks jareee. I just wonder why other don’t think along that line.

herzernIsHere:
The issue is that most Nigerians live a life "filled" with emptiness.

Procreation (in a disastrous manner) is a reassuring way of telling themselves they have lived a life of legacy.

Shior.

Lol....life of legacy my foot. Nigeria is just too volatile & poverty stricken to burden with overpopulation. I can imagine what those parents with many kids are going through. You can always have all the sex in the world with your spouse if you adopt safe family planning methods.

DaddyGngeess:
I am trying to build an Empire, so I need many children, every aboki with his kettle abeg..

What empire is that? Farming empire?

You can do all you need to do on your with tractors.

comsirheed:
we believe its God that takes care of the children.having one n't necessarily we can take care of 1.everything na God hand e dey.my personal opinion though

Not a very good opinion. I believe in God too but I wouldn’t burden him with things my gumption deters me from doing: birthing many children into a 4th world country.

Sterope:
If he doesn't exist, he doesn't exist. What is there to be grateful for?

Abi oooo, like I have to give thanks to my parents for being born.

This issue a lot of Nigerians don’t just fear Nigeria. I fear this current Nigeria a lot & I wouldn’t want to bring many children into this hellhole.