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[quote author=oluwasheun94 post=54746902]I am sorry i do not befriend animals like you. wait, did i say i am sorry? gtfoh ok, sensitive bih, i am so sorry.[/quote

And you need some elastic tights? I think a gown will fit you nicely.

oluwasheun94:
if u looked up the word "troll" and u saw my pic, don't u think u need some serious mental evaluation as you have not seen me b4? ur mum shoulda swallowed you. i'm done

Let's be friends since you are so desperate for one. I take you out for a fancy meal and then buy that bra and skirt that you are desperately searching for?

oluwasheun94:
I SHOULD NOT HAVE UNDERESTIMATED YOUR MAGNANIMOUS LEVEL OF STUPIDITY. JOBLESS NUMBSKULL. YOU ARE SO BRAINLESS TO THE LEVEL THAT A THOUSAND UNITS OF UR BRAIN WILL SWIM THROUGH THE EYE OF A NEEDLE. slowpoke OF A NINCOMPOOP. I CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON YOUR STUPIDITY TO REPLY ME.

Wow. Took you that long to come back with that amount of generic and sub par retort? Fuming at the mouth are we? Let me guess, you are that kid in the playground with lice in their hair and smells so no one likes you so you sit at home looking to start an online argument? Typing in uppercase how very smart of you? I looked up the word 'Troll' and your picture was right next to it. Unfortunately, I don't feed trolls. Go play elsewhere or suck on some exhaust fumes.

ImaIma1:
So because criminals are walking free, the police should not arrest anyone until they have caught all the criminals all at once?
Did she go against the law? Yes. I dont think any injustice has been done. If you go around calling everyone out and saying things that destroys people's character, you should be ready for what comes. And this particular woman has been talking without any form of caution. It's just time to face it.

That's the problem. It is very worrying no one sees how far reaching this issue is. I find it disturbing that anyone including this third rate "journalist" can be arrested on trumped up charges or hearsay evidence and then remanded for an undisclosed term. It can happen to anyone.The allegations are spurious and her arrest serves no purpose. As much as I don't pay her any attention, we have much more pressing matters as a nation than a pastor whose "feelings" have been hurt by some crackpot bloggist. Our senators and politicians are robbing us blind and they are walking free as a bird. Criticize them and see yourself being arrested too for 'cybercrime' too.

[quote author=oluwasheun94 post=54744892][/quote]Answer with a meme. How original?

oluwasheun94:
oya, sha clap for yourself. sensitive bi+ch

Anything that makes you sleep better at night, kiddo. Hang on, let me draw you a picture so you show Nairaland where I hurt your feelings this might take awhile since you are not exactly that bright.

Michellla:
He didn't care about her hungry look while he was banging her.

Like they say " Dirty water dey quench fire too"

Zeuz007:
The topic said they're taking her case to court on the 23rd. As for her arrest, the pastor can't be charged with anything. That's she's still in cell is her wahala, she should get a good lawyer to bail her. The bail stuff is the problem of the police not the pastor.

So she has been remanded until her appearance at court? Does it appear to you that due process was followed or adhered to? She was arrested for "cybercrime" Please check out the offences against the administration of justice, pastor could find himself subject to proceedings as well. It is a slippery slope when the police are allowed to interprete the laws and instead of building a solid case or evidence. This matter will never go to trial. Let's wait & see.

oluwasheun94:
please just d fucc up. okay??

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. If you can't have an adult conversation about this topic, please kindly proceed to your doctor to show him your butthurt.

Zeuz007:
What is defamation?
According to the Criminal Code in section 373, a defamatory matter is a matter likely to injure the reputation of any person by exposing him to hatred, contempt, or ridicule, or likely to damage any person in his profession or trade by any injury to his reputation. Such matter may be expressed in spoken words or in any audible sounds, or in words legibly marked on any substance whatever, or by any sign or object signifying such matter otherwise than by words, and may be expressed either directly or by insinuation or irony. It is immaterial whether at the time of the publication of the defamatory matter; the person concerning whom such matter is published is living or dead. In essence, saying anything likely to damage the reputation of a person may be considered defamatory.
Defamation could either be a libel or slander, it is considered libel when the false statement is published in written form for instance in newspapers, magazines and the web but considered slander when it is spoken.

What are the legal consequences of defamation?
Any person, who publishes any defamatory matter, is guilty of a misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for one year; and any person who publishes any defamatory matter knowing it to be false, is liable to imprisonment for two years. Also, any person who publishes, or threatens to publish, or offers to abstain from publishing, or offers to prevent the publication of defamatory matter, with intent to extort money or other property, or with intent to induce any person to give, confer, procure, or attempt to procure, to, upon, or for, any person, any property or benefit of any kind, is guilty of a felony and is liable to imprisonment for seven years (Section 375 – 376, Criminal code).

And a court decided that she is guilty? have the police produced a prima facie case to a competent judge for the accused to stand trial? Or has she been charged? Remember she is presumed innocent until a court decides. Her arrest was completely unnecessary and pastor could be charged with pervitting the course of justice? What a tangled web we weave.


Offences relating to the Administration of Justice


113. In this chapter, the term "judicial proceeding" includes any proceeding had or taken in or before any court, tribunal, commission of inquiry, or person, in which evidence may or may not be taken on oath.

114-116 inclusive. (Deleted by 1966 No. 84.)

117. Any person who, in any judicial proceeding, or for the purpose of instituting any judicial proceeding, knowingly gives false testimony touching any matter which is material to any question then depending in that proceeding, or intended to be raised in that proceeding, is guilty of an offence, which is called perjury.

It is immaterial whether the testimony is given on oath or under any other sanction authorised by law.

The forms and ceremonies used in administering the oath or in otherwise binding the person giving the testimony to speak the truth" are immaterial, if he assent to the forms and ceremonies actually used.

It is immaterial whether the false testimony is given orally or in writing. It is immaterial whether the court or tribunal is properly constituted, or is held in the proper place, or not, if it actually acts as a court or tribunal in the proceeding in which the testimony is given.

It is immaterial whether the person who gives the testimony is a competent witness or not, or whether the testimony is admissible in the proceeding or not.

The offender cannot be arrested without warrant.

118. Any person who commits perjury is liable to imprisonment for Punishment fourteen years. of perjury.

If the offender commits the offence in order to procure the conviction of another person for an offence punishable with death or with imprisonment for life, he is liable to imprisonment for life.

Zeuz007:
Oga, libel is a crime and he has the right to arrest her. He can sue for emotional damages if he wishes. Stop encouraging evil

Libel is not a crime. It is not an offence. I am yet to see an arrest in saner climes for a very "tenous" term such as that. You sue the person to court and not waste police or authorities time which should used for more urgent and pressing matters. Emotional damages? Are you serious? What a generation of butthurt people social
Media is raising? Was he assaulted? I will speak for those who cannot speak because I am my brother's keeper. Do you know what is evil? It is also seeing an injustice and standing idly and not speaking up against it or not helping the poor and defenceless. That is what Jesus will want.

Character assasination please show me where it is a criminal offence in our constitution or law?

weedtheweeds:
This is not good news at all. why are Nigerians very heartless? they think they are better than others. This woman did not hurt anyone but speak her mind. We are in a democratic government and our constitution protects our freedom of speech. There are millions of thieves, killers and looters out there being celebrated by Nigerians. This woman never stole our money, she did not rape our kids, she did not kill anyone, she did not break the law, she did not steal anyone's husband, she only spoke her opinions. Are we not supposed to speak our minds? Must we all have the same viewpoints? We have all either insulted our presidents and governors or wished them dead. Patience jonathan was called all sort of names and everyone found pleasure and fun in it. GEJ was ridiculed like an item and no one found it insulting that our president was the object of mockery. Obasanjo was called a monkey and no one was arrested. Some people wished death for Buhari and no one was arrested even as they are surprised that he returned from the UK. How would you all feel if you get locked up for your thoughts? Are they not equally evil? TB Joshua has not responded for failing to appear in court 2 times. Isn't that an arrestable offense by our constitution? Yet many people are solidly supporting him when the families of the people who died on his property still cry over the loss.
How could you arrest someone and lock her up till the 23rd as if she is not protected by the law? Biafrans hate Buhari for locking Nnamdi Kanu up against his constitutional right and i am surprised some of them rejoice over same treatment meted out on kemi. Is kemi now worse than the Fulani herdsmen killing people everywhere? Is she worse than the Boko haram committing carnage for half a decade now? Mr DPO are you not aware that the nation needs your services in Sambisa forest? The pastor that arrested her, is he representing Jesus or Juju? How could a pastor arrest someone for defaming him? Matthew 10:22; Matthew 24:9; Luke 21:12 judging by these scriptures, that pastor is not a Christian. What name can one have when Jesus himself was blasphemed and killed? Now. the pastor is the one killing someone. What does he preach on a Sunday? Does he pray to God or to DPO?
Kemi did not devalue our naira, she did not put us in this recession, she did not contest for any political post. Even if you kill her, your condition remains stable.
Let Nigerians have their freedom to speak their minds even if it opposes your beliefs. Rejoicing over this unfair treatment against her means denying yourself and your children the right to speech. Person way talk must die? See Nigerians are butchered every day in south Africa and languishing in the prisons over there. MTN and DSTV bosses have not been arrested. When e reach for where dem go show muscles dem go day act like baby. Na poor man body dem day get power.
#freeKemiOlunloyo
#freedomofthepress
#letthecommonmanvoicehisthought
#thepoorhaveopinions

I applaud you for seeing the incarceration of this lady for what it really is. As much I don't like the woman or how she makes me cringe each time she writes or calls herself an "investigative journalist"which is a smack in the face of journalism or how much her pieces are riddled with factual inaccuracies, the authorities have arrested her on quite spurious and shaky grounds. Cybercrime should involve offences such as phishing or fraud or sexual offences. What she is alleged to have said about the pastor is libellous - nothing more. People are languishing in Nigerian jails without bail or charged and this exemplifies what is wrong with our judicial and policing authorities, it is a miscarriage of justice and abuse of due process. Other hand there are people walking around doing alot worse including our senators and politicians? We should arrest everyone for everything and see who is left. The pastor should have taken her to court and sued for damages. It is a civil matter and not a criminal offence. Everyone jubilating about her predicament, show me where in our constitution or law it mentions "cybercrime" the police have used this term to conduct unlawful arrests. They search your phone illegally, they see something they do not like which is actually innocous and they arrest you for cybercrime?! Having her arrested is abusing anyone's constitutional rights and for a pastor to do this shows how easily the scales of justice can be swayed for the rich and mighty. Only in Nigeria will every Tom, Dick and Harry can demand the arrest of another person without grounds or clear evidence and most times for offences that do not even exist. It should not be happening in a civil society. If someone says or writes something you don't like or approve, challenge them with facts or ignore them or take legal recourse. Stop being a cry baby about it. Cyberbullying? GTFOH if you are above 18 years old , you deserve koboko.

Arresting people for excercising their constitutional rights? Has he committed a crime? Nigerian Police have a lot to learn. Hope he is freed soon. Judging by all the childish and infantile comments such as 'first to comment or "booking space" or simply giving us random letters of the alphabet, Nairaland has become a kindergarten playground? Time to set aside foolish things and grow up. It is annoying with all these pointless comments on pertinent topics.

Tell 'em Dave

Like a stranded motorist with a defective engine seeking professional advice from a quack gynaecologist instead of a mechanic.

haymekus:
http://thoughtcatalog.com/charles-j-orlando/2014/10/ladies-please-stop-doing-this-on-instagram/

Kudos for your timely message. I was shocked at the comments from some girls and guys who consider these 'gram girls some sort of role models over intellectual and hardworking women? People with no substance? It is alarming.

Socialite :
" A socialite is a person (usually from a privileged, wealthy, or aristocratic background) who has a wide reputation and a high position in upper class society. A socialite spends a significant amount of time attending various fashionable social gatherings.... - Wikipedia

Describing her as a socialite is a euphemism. So someone in the right thinking minds will consider her the fountain of marital advice? See a generation dumbing down for 'gram?

DollarAngel:
I wonder who she is, what she offers intellectually, socially, mentally that hits front page of social medias, all I see her accumulated fats on the chest and buttocks that looks good in cloth both off cloth it isn't.... Meanwhile I pity her old age, she will definitely have back pain ask busty mothers

Well said and she is fugly. All I see is an airhead with low esteem.

subsurface:
ok if u knw that Suleiman bleeped 20 babes...

how will that helped ur life..

answer me; dont deviate..

also please knw we dont help God in Christianity ok; let God help himself and kill Suleiman if he like not u..

get busy with meaningful things... like nation building ok... and stop being God

When you can string together a decent sentence then get back to me. You obviously don't know what you are talking about. The church is a religious organization and their finances should be used ethically and under the principles of its religious tenets. Tell me how using the congregation's tithes or donations justifies buying a house or car in return for sexual favours? Does he have an extra income as a celebrity car dealer or estate agent or hair stylist? If these allegations are true then he has committed fraud simply it is embezzlement and abuse of position.

[quote author=subsurface post=54640723]@OP..

i pity u...

whether the man is guilty or not... he has said he has no case to answer;; yet u guys wouldnt mind ur business?

ARE U HIS GOD??

he is not a public servant so he is not mandated to confess or apologies to anyone publicly...

this has nothing to do with worshiping pastors or not... its jst simple common sense...

the man u are busy wasting ur valuable time taking abt; is busy right now in the USA making more waves & expanding his exploits & empire.

of a truth...

[color=#990000]POOR PEOPLE ALWAYS WASTE THEIR VALUABLE TIME GOSSIPING ABOUT RICH/GREAT PEOPLE`s SUCCESS THAT THE RICH/GREAT PEOPLE GOT INVESTING THAT SAME TIME THAT THE POOR PEOPLE WASTED GOSSIPING



For your mind you don make common sense? Common sense dictates that if there is an allegation that church money is being frittered away on "side chicks" exotic cars and plush mansions, it is right for the congregation to investigate and sanction appropriately. Your dogmatic assertion that since he is a man of God so he is above reproach or accountability is the reason people have lost faith with Christianity.

Don't feed the troll.

Reading the comments and thinking....

oyb:
the op should not make the mistake of venturing to any western country.like a lot of nigerian males he has a very cavalier attitude towards sexual assault. in this country it is easy to slut shame victims of rape and sexual assault, and so people like the op would see nothing wromg with drugging girls or getting them drunk, or bullying/intimidating them, and then placing the blame o them for whatever transpired.

this is not about morality.it is about crime

it is immoral [in most cultures and religions] to commit fornication, adultery, dress seductively, etc. it is a CRIME to engage in any form of sexual assault.
once there is evidence of any kind that sexual activity between two parties was non consensual, that is grounds for a sexual assault case.

KEMEN could be tagged as a registered sex offender in other climes and mandated by law to place a sign outside his residence warning that he is a sex offender.

this is the sort of shiit bill cosby was pulling all those years

there was a big brother or similar themed reality show in brazil or one of those nations where there was an actual rape.

Kemen's action show predatory behavior. Do not be surprised if some of his victims start coming out.

on top of being a predator, the guy is remarkably stupid. assaulting someone on a south african reality TV show. the show runners would never condone actions like that given SA's history with rape. if nigeria had clear laws , they would have handed kemen over to the authorities as he stepped out the door.

Well said. Consent cannot have been reasonably expected to have been given if one of the parties is heavily intoxicated or asleep. There is no defence. Some Nigerians are currently in jail or on sex offenders register for life for these types of acts. If she is drunk or incapable of providing consent then walk it off. Dude is lucky not to have been arrested by now. WikiLeaks founder is currently hiding in the Ecuadorian embassy in London for nearly 4 years because he had sex with a female who consented however providing he wears a condom, during coitus condom broke. Dude knew and continued ploughing away. Female cries rape as she consented to sex with a condom. Stated case now so guys be very careful. It is a legal nightmare and he has no legal standing or leg to stand on (pun intended)

P.S I don't watch BB and I am currently studying about these types of offences.

Aaronsrod:
God is the judge.

Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Are you truly a Christian?

I do not believe in your Christianity. You claim to be morally upright but you are like the Pharisee. You obviously ignored the rest of the bible. You appear to take your bible literally just like every other dimwitted bible thumper out there. Dogmatic and bereft of any common sense. People like you believed the world was flat until Gallileo proved the earth was actually spherical. Education was clearly wasted on you.

The Hebrew word used in the verse is the participle of the verb (kishsheph), denoting "to practice the magical article." Deuteronomy 18:10-11 sheds more light on the issue. “No one shall be found among you who practices divination, or is a soothsayer or an augur, or a sorcerer, or one who cast spells or who consults ghosts and spirits, or who seeks oracles from the dead.

However Saul in your bible does consult one which shows one of many contradictions in your bible. I can pick other verses just for fun too

1 Samuel 28 : 7
" Then said Saul unto his servants, Seek me a woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and inquire of her. And his servants said to him, Behold, there is a woman that hath a familiar spirit at Endor.

She actually summons the dead and your God allows it

My favourite, I am assume you are walking around with long hair and a beard looking like Kimbo Slice after gastric bypass or you have a haircut and shave?

Here's another one for you.
"Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard." (Lev. 19:27).
So you have also sinned for having a haircut

I can do this all day but alas you have amused me to no end but I chose to ignore you now, Oxygen Thief. Bye.

Aaronsrod:
I caution you not to cast judgement on the word God. The Bible tells us we must not suffer a witch to live. I agree witgh those who say she should not have been tortured. That was unnecesary. She should have been killed swiftly in the presence of a Man of God.

Your Jesus and his disciples cast out demons and nowhere in your bible does it mention torturing or killing people possessed. God will never condone it and I am shocked you're trying to justify a horrible act on a poor child. You are the evil doers and God will judge you according to how you treat others. Spare me your fallacies. And you claim to know the mind of God? Abeg shift!!

Aaronsrod:
If it is a witch-child then the Bible tells us it must be put to death. It is well.

Oxygen thief!! You sit there typing rubbish in your polyester and cotton boxers!! Your bible also says you deserve to be stoned to death for wearing clothing with mixed fabric!! Anyone who accepts your type of Christianity needs to have their heads examined. The child was tortured for what?!! It is heinious and the culprits need to be punished and feel the full weight of justice. No mercy!!

mantosa:
Madam PRO did not do justice to that question. "Reasonable ground" is too vague.

It should be a Yes or No answer. In Nigeria, we suspect each other so meaning the police have every right to search our phones then.

Asking her to explain " reasonable grounds " is not the job of the police. It is subjective and should be best left for a competent court or legal experts. It is a slippery slope when officers have to explain what reasonable grounds are. Ask yourself given the circumstances if it reasonable to expect the officer to search your phone?

I agree with you. The PRO does not appear to have an idea what she is talking about, she is not even coherent nor do she seem to have a grasp of the legislation or of the police powers! how the hell do they appoint these people?

General Rule - Can a police officer search your phone? Answer - No.

Exceptions - " Lawfully" arrested for a relevant offence and evidence relating to that offence is believed to be on the device or under a court warrant.

Police officers are not forensic or IT experts and should not be allowed to go through your phone or belongings without the legal powers. You could make allegation against the officer that they tampered with or altered the evidence in question.

This is not a carte blance advice. I would advice one deals with the matter safely and return to your loved ones in one piece especially in 9ja. At least cowards still get to go home and plan their next course of action afterwards. A dead man does not have that option.

This time and age some people are still using the word "swag"

They should have been out of business a long time ago. People appear not to have learnt any lessons from all the bad publicity and horror stories.

Dongreat:
I dey tell you. Disgusting Fats that's package in tight fitted clothing.

Nairaland tire me. She is fugly. Looks what she was dragged through a bush backwards.