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Martinez19:
Islam is based on the quran which doctrines are evil. A Muslim is someone who follows and abides by the teachings and doctrines of the quran. Please don't try to detach the identity as if it has no connect on bearing from the ideology. As long as Islam is in existence, there will always be radicals. The moderates are hypocrites that do not take the quran fully and seriously meanwhile they advocate the quran. So you see hypocritical Muslims called moderates and radicals are dangerous. Finally, never try to separate the identity and ideology as if they have no deep connection with each other. The ideology is evil and the identity is for those who choose to abide by it.

you are now descending into bigotry against those honest Muslim out there. this is dehumanization. you already conclude Islam is entirely evil which is not true. countries such as Qatar , UAE and Oman are proving you wrong. these are countries founded on Islamic ideology but liberal as a people.

it is like saying Nigeria is a corrupt country, does it also mean every person who hold NIGERIA identity is also corrupt? to me , you are the hypocrite here for confirming and concluding all Islam doctrines are evil. i am sure you have never study Islam beyond the news.

dalaman:
Liberal leftist in Europe are worse than Islamic Fundmentalist in their stupidity. They always refuse to tackle Islam head on. They feel Islam is some distant problem when Islam and it's problem is knocking on their door right in front of them. They keep treating muslims with kid gloves all in the name of political correctness. They don't know that Islam is a virus that needs to be killed and quarantined immediately.

I like the Americans because they have the conservatives / Republicans that will NEVE allow Islam and breeding space in their country. The Europeans and toying with something that will consume them, they don't know.

Muslims need to be treated the way they treat others in their own countries period. Europeans need to treat muslim migrants the same way muslims treat non muslims in Muslim majority countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Indonesia, Egypt, Yemen, Iraq etc.

Europeans should NOT tolerate muslims and their madness. Muslims will leave their usless war ravaged lands, come into Europe and be brandishing swords shouting that Islam will take over Europe someday. What utter madness and the foolish Europeans will be looking at them instead of kicking them out immediately.

i do not agree with you. both conservative and liberal are really missing the mark.Neither side was making the distinction between ideas and people. On the liberal, people were saying that if you have any criticism against Islam, then you were a bigot against all Muslims. On the conservative, it was like there are a lot of problematic things in Islamic scripture, so everyone who is Muslim must be banned or profiled, or demonized. Both sides were not making that distinction between challenging ideas, which has historically moved societies forward and demonizing human beings, which only rips societies apart. there should be clear distinction.

Martinez19:
it doesn't change the fact that Islam ought not to be in a civilised society and that it's doctrine are evil. You clearly didn't read my write very well and you are not well informed on things happening in Europe or North America. The skillful Muslims want sharia too just like all Muslims. Do you know how Spain came under an Islamic caliphate? Peacefully or by the sword? Don't spoil my Sunday please.

this is not fact, it is fallacy. stop conflating Islam the ideology and Muslim the identity.

your write up shows you will be a bad judge, since you lack sufficient information on the matter. Islam and Muslim. Islam is the ideology and Muslim is the identity. Islam is the religion; it is the set of beliefs, that contain bunch of ideas in a book. It is not human. Muslims are real, living like you , breathing people, and to me, there is a big difference between criticizing ideas and demonizing human beings. but what you are doing now is called dehumanization. imagine if the same should be state against Atheists. everybody has the right to freedom of believes. be it atheist , pagan and so. and it should be respected. You should also note that Islam is not a religion of peace nor war, it is just a set of believes like every other believes. the scripture of this believe has inspired people to do a lot of charity and social responsibility and it has also inspired people to do the opposite. just like every set of believe. hope you know atheism also fall into this category. there is a different between believes and people. for example, it does not make sense if i say, i have a lot of atheist who are sell-fish, so atheism objective ideology must be ok with a sell-fish life style. so its this believe that needs reformation and not the people(Muslim) just like i also thinks atheism needs reformation.

most of the Muslim migrant are skillful workers , they are so much welcome in EUROPE. i have personally meet a Syria dude who handle five profession together, he is an IT expert , electrician , plumber and some others. the white are known for mono focus profession. these Syrians are paid less but with many duties. EUROPE are not novice to Islam ideology, turkey is in central Europe, therefore Islam and Europe and not new to each other. Spain was once under Islamic caliphate for period more than a century.....

This is more of religious issue rather than development. i am sure if it is Israel offering that prestigious opportunity, it will not have degenerate to this extent. Iran academic prowess and human development progress is comparable with Israel standard. Do not be an enemy of progres.Nigeria govt is not getting it in all area......

i think your best question should be what will happen to life if everyone become immortal? this will definitely answer the religion position better.

A pile of hot trash, i read it somewhere last year too from this unauthorized article clamming the queen is a direct descendant of king David, that article even back its claim with bible verses. if anything like this is true, BBC will have it.

laskilala:
i know stuff about particle physics! i know about binary number, i know it real time application and i apply it everyday in computing and programming, hardware design and logic analysis! most people naturally misunderstood the idea of good and bad! but all boils down to what we use everyday in our daily undertaking. 1 represent on,good,life,positive pole in electromagnetism, truth while 0 represent off,evil,death,negative pole in electromagnetism, false. in the analysis of truth table were we determine how computing instructions are executed and how electrical signal move in the computing system, human body,in plants etc. you will discover that applying AND Logic/OR Logic gates.

the unit of counting system is binary in computing programming,while particles physics recognize positive and negative. in computing ,01 is a figure on its own, you can not separate them. let me give you an example of a coin, the head and the tail. can you remove the head and have the tail, or think of mountain, does it make sense if you do not have the idea of a valley, the valley is down, while the mountain is higher, so you can not talk about mountain without referring to the valley . so you can not talk about positive without negative. i do not accept or subscribe to the Christianity concept of bad and good. if you want to know , i can prove it.

Abdulhakeem78:
Please,stop spreading falsehoods.The verse you quoted was extremely spurious.
This is what Allah says in Surah 5 Al-Màidah verse 52:And you see those in whose hearts there is a disease(of hypocrisy),they hurry to their friendship,saying:"we fear lest some misfortune of a disaster may befall us" perhaps Allah may bring a victory or a decision according to His will.Then they will become regretful for what they have been keeping as a secret in themselves.This is the correct translation published by Dar-us -Salam publications Riyadh,Saudi Arabia.
Sir in case you wish to tackle Islam you will need to learn exegesis of Quran which I believe take many years.So taking a verse from the Quran to receive some likes or shares takes you nowhere.

Islam is nether a religion of peace nor war, it is just a religion like every other religion, be practical bro, admit it there are lot of sura that awake the spirit of violence . when ISIS and BOKO HARAM commit any violence act, a valid quraan scripture and hadith is quote to back it up. they can not always be wrong. before Islam can be stabilized, the Muslim must agree that the quraan is subjected to error like every other religious book . this ego of GOD write it all including the punctuation mark is not intelligent enough. there are also violence act in the bible that the catholic awaken to force the Christians into war during the 10 century(crusader war) but most of the Christians move on from that side of scripture, they instead embrace and promote the peaceful side while acknowledging that indeed violence act exist in the bible.

This mental gymnastic that Muslim apologetic do to protect quraan is not valid enough, we are in internet age, words and its meaning can easily be checked on the google. killing your enemy can never be translated to love your enemy while beating your wife can not also mean kiss your wife. this mental gymnastic must stop. and the attitude that quraan is infallible must be address. so that religious reason will not be use for non religious purpose.

why do you not do the needful, provide the solution while you attached the link. that is why it is called a thread

Jaymaxxy:
I had this discussion with a friend just yesterday. Our argument was between Fela and Gani Fawehinmi. We both later settled for Gani because you can easily make him a role model. No one prays to have a child who smokes and lives like Fela. But in all, they are the best and greatest Nigerians ever.

That aside, some names should be on the list. Names like

Jaja Wachukwu
Aminu Kano
Funmilayo Ransom-Kuti
Anthony Enahoro
Adegoke Adelabu
And few others

in history, no musician has ever attain the legacy of fela anikulapo ransom kuti, not even Bob Marley. he combined music , art ,politics and philosophy all in into one. fela will have successfully outweigh Micheal Jackson assuming he is an american. till date, no musician has suffice to replace such a character. if it is in India, he will have been term a prophet or gods

OkaiCorne:
Does God have any religion? Is God religious?

it is beyond my comprehension since GOD attribute is unknown, his purpose remain unknown. all i can say in every known and unknown discovery are all evidence of God existence

OkCornel:
I understand you.

Perhaps, you need to see things from this perspective. Imagine a pyramid, if enlightenment is the peak of this pyramid...then religion or whatever belief systems or schools of thought would take you to the peak of this pyramid.

You cannot be at the peak of the pyramid (i.e. enlightenment) and be on a lower step (religion) at the same time.

But of course, the steps are necessary for you to get to the peak of the pyramid...

let me give you the technical definition of religion. religion is any mechanism in our natural habitat which provides stability or confidence in an unknown or uncertain situation. do not see religion in related with this present body system... most of the process has been politicized ...... if you are found yourself, you will be self conscious, if you are conscious, you will reach enlightenment, if you are enlighten ,you will become religious...... you can even start a body system like Christianity or Islam....

looking at history, that is how most of these body system was formed.

sapientia:
Of course.. I can now see why you are confused.. eyaaaaa..

Of all these different views by lots of people.. which do you believe in the link you sent?

case closed. '' if you want to hide something from a black man put it in a book ,he will never read it''

sapientia:
Please.. I wont say anything on this until una Oga also admits that he believes Charles Darwin that know nothing about DNA... yep.. i said so.

check my post very well, we do not fall into the same understanding, i only claim what is either an hypothesis or an established theory. so becareful with your choice of words

sapientia:
Hypothesis of real things.. There laws.. they can be broken.. but you need to show how...

There are conferences where papers are presented to other scientists to check if one is even alright.

Science can prove it can transplant a human head since the white paper exists and experiments undertaken.. But same scientists looked at the procedure and concluded its not possible but might be in the future with the right technology..

Present one of your science paper to prove ETs exists.. do you know you cant even say that in a gathering of educated people..

you lack proper knowledge of biophysics and exobiology. it is one of your body system that make the process unattainable by now. the Freedom From Religion Foundation, which promotes the division between Church and state, asked Nasa to revoke the grant, and threatened to sue if Nasa didn’t comply. While the FFR stated that their concern was the commingling of government and religious organisations, they also made it clear that they thought the grant was a waste of money. “Science should not concern itself with how its progress will impact faith-based beliefs. if you want learn read further

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20161215-if-we-made-contact-with-aliens-how-would-religions-react

sapientia:
Charles Darwins Evolution has already been exposed as a fraud with staged fossils... Why would i read trash that says this intelligent specie is a product of chance..

Since then till now.. which plane or technology has existed out of chance? Imagine..

Charles Darwin? really? na wa oo

this is the reason west underrate us. academically we are backward. give me any theory of science that has been accepted within the body of scientific organization in replacement of Charles Darwin evolutionary theory. i even tell you , you are an example of evolution, you still went ahead to show us in the thread you know better? so tell us how human was created?

OkaiCorne:
Per the bolded, what is the name of the religion enlightened people practice? Can one be religious and enlightened at the same time? it's like saying you are in primary school and secondary school at the same time...

go read my first to 2 bullet . may be you will understand better. once you have attain ultimate truth, you are enlighten and once you are enlighten, you are religious . so religion is not a body system, it is created with us. transcendence and purpose of life is the main anchor of religion

OkCornel:
Okay, for a start... God and religion are two separate things.

The Master of the Universe (a.k.a. God if you are comfortable with it) is the TRUTH, and He is Uncreated, however religion are belief systems created by followers of an enlightened soul...

Anyone who has a personal relationship with the master of the Universe is an enlightened person and not a religious person...it's the followers of these enlightened souls that makes a religion out of the things these enlightened souls lived and died for...

For example, what religion did Adam, Enoch, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Job, Jesus, Bhudda e.t.c. had to practice before communicating with the Eternal and Supreme Master of the Universe?

i have reply you in your first quote....so again this is my reply. It is important to separate God from religion. All of the world religions started as a means to transcendence and identification of purpose. every human on earth has a purpose, which directly means every human has a religion. we are not robot or lower conscious animal . we are created with self awareness. But the original systems of identify this purpose which is religion became politicized, they became less about spiritual development, and more about control. The intimate relationship between created and creator was superseded by selfish interest.. ALL RELIGION STILL HAVE SOMETHING THAT HAS SURVIVE, WHICH IS CLOSER TO THE ORIGINAL SYSTEM.

once you identify your purpose,you will reach enlightenment and you will be the truth you are seeking for..

External creator is an impersonal force of creation. The Creator exists beyond all dualities and therefore cannot be defined as male or female, light or dark,religious etc. the purpose of GOD is beyond my comprehension... i may not be able to answer you and i do not think you can. humanity needs religion not external creator since we do not know its attribute.

every human who find their purpose in life is religious . be you Jesus, Jacob ,Isaac, orunminla , Muhammad. etc.

so who is religious?
1 The one who know we are hear to learn ,to discover the truth,behind creation, death and birth.

2 The one who takes the right part to find his true identity within himself and not in church, mosque or shrine.
certainly if you fall into this category, you are religious

jonathan111:
As hell fire no dey now, sir Billyonaire : what'll be the fate of yahoo boys (plus), money ritualist etc..

Rules of nature. cause and effect...

OkaiCorne:
which of them bro?

anyone you really feel it deserve more attention or perhaps everything