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2 months into the marriage and you are already complaining----you are royally screwed!

haha, funny how Eku disappeared once the issue of his wealthy background was brought up. . . dude, you and i have business to do

corruption right there

rest assured some shishi changed hands

haha!

Some questions for you to ponder.
1. What is the magnitude of young girls doing in Nigeria as compared to other places, notably developed sociities?
2. Can a corrupt poltician use his ill-gotten wealth to entice a young girl?
3. Do you think the women who left their husbands for OBJ would have done so without his position, power, and wealth?
4. At the end of the day, what do you do with ill-gotten wealth? Do you give it away to charity?

first, young girls sleeping in Nigeria cannot be reasonably compared to other places as there arent convenient or logical measures in place to effectively make such comparison.  In Brazil, more than 6 in every 8 girls you meet are likely to sleep with you irrespective of your age as long as you have the money.

Second, a corrupt politician, just like an average man will respond to his sexual pull as he deems fit.  The fact that he's corrupt does not make the process itself corrupt.  men who make their money legitimately also entice young girls with wealth, it will be absurd to call it corruption, especially if the process is not in breach of a constitution.

Third, those women who left their husbands for OBJ demonstrated their freedom of choice and free will as allowed within the boundaries of the national constitution, the fact that OBJ has power and wealth is immaterial, it's a part of being human, women will naturally move on to somewhere they feel safer and more secure. . . again, it will be absurd to tag this in line with corruption, except if of course they were blackmailed into doing so.

Fourth, people do whatever they wish with ill gotten wealth and it's not every corrupt politician that has a habit of engaging in multiple sexual partners or having young mistresses.  many even give a sizable sum of their loot to charity!. . .


It is totally unreasonable to say I am corrupt simply because I am rich and my girlfriend is way younger than me, this should even be a norm to begin with!

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Dede1:
Dude, I do not believe in the junks written with ulterior motives by European and American news media. There is electioneering process in Ivory Coast which was followed to the dictates of Ivorian constitution.

The first round of the election which Gbagbo came first but without clear majority was announced at the electoral commission’s headquarter by Ivorian media and certified by Constitutional Council. If the Ivorian Constitutional Council was biased to Gbagbo, it could have called the election for Gbagbo during the first round of balloting.

However, it was different scenario during the second round of balloting with special interest groups such as EU and UN involved. Instead of announcing the results at the usual place, the so-called electoral commission led by EU and UN staffs announced the result of the election at Hotel Du Golf, the main campaign headquarter of Oattarra, under auspices of European news media.

It does not matter to me if Gbagbo had been in office for 100 years. I believe only in due process regardless how imperfect.

You do not believe in Junks written with ulterior motives by the American or European media----good point!

why not tell the rest of us where you get your facts from that has made you so convinced about the situation on ground? it will be unpleasant to even think you argue your point based solely on "what you think" and not what the situation actually is!


Why haven't you questioned the fact that the constitutional council, a friend and close buddy of Gbagbo nullified over half a million votes of Outtara's supporters and only then could Gbagbo marginally qualified as having won the presidential election ?. . .that's the sole basis for the crises, not when or who announced the result.

A girl's personal choice to sleep with an older man is not and should not in any way be defined alongside with corruption, for sam's sake it's a séx between too consenting adults the fact that one is older does not and should not matter.  There aren't laws that prohibits adults from having sexual intercourse with each others, except in a religious state.

why are we even discussing this to begin with?

asha 80:
really stop this rheoteric or do you want to tell me that there was no corruption before 1999?

Nigeria was arguably better in terms of average standard and quality of living before 1999!. . .those days, Nigerians were disciplined

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=590472.msg7579300#msg7579300 date=1295648180]Err, those #s sound wrong to me. 17% GDP growth per year is not what Nigeria has experienced over the past 5 years. More like 8-9% tops, iirc.[/quote]I'm using the GDP in terms of Purchasing Power Parity and not the GDP real rate. I know the PPP is an imperfect factor for measuring the GDP but it is sufficient in the context of my earlier argument.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nigeria

asha 80:
let me ask this question though.since corruption is nigeria's bane by comments here how do we hope to curb it to the barest minimum since according to ola olabiy it is ingrained in our culture?

how do we create a situation where corruption becomes less attractive in the country ?

Verily Verily i say onto thee, it is easier for a 10 camels to go through the eye of a needle at once than to curb corruption in Nigeria.

If you ask the average Nigerian kid what he wants to be in the future, you'd be alarmed with the number of people who'd reply with the generic "i want to be a rich man". . . .they simply don't want to care how!. . . the same mentality is common even up till the tertiary level, no one cares about improving the world, everyone just want to be rich.

The only reason corruption thrives is because of the widening gap between the rich and the poor class of the society, we need to save the middle class!

Kalu Akanu:
Over-reliance on one natural resource is our problem. Focusing on oil doesn't improve jobs. The oil & natural gas sector only employs a small amount of workers.

We should be focusing on agricultural products, commercial products and also building up our service sector. Too bad, Nigerian officials are too dumb to realize this.

actually they are not dumb!. . they all just want to get richer and bother less about the poor class, . .that's where the courrption factor comes in.

Tafa Balogun was busy swimming in billions while junior police officers languished and begged for money by the road side. . .and someone says corruption isn't the problem?. .

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=590472.msg7579109#msg7579109 date=1295646305]I used a pie analogy before in the thread last week.

Basically, a small pie even if perfectly shared will leave everyone hungry. While sharing the pie properly is important, of arguably larger importance is growing that pie.[/quote]You are wrong sir!

we did grow our pie, that's why our GDP went from 170 billion in 2005 to over 370 billion in 2010.  The point is, some individuals just want the entire pie to themselves.

It's better we have a small pie with few selfish individuals, even if everyone is hungry, we at least have something to chew on!

The problem in Nigeria is corruption, say no more!. . .and of course clueless leaders. . .  . like the one with a diploma in hygiene who aspired to make and implement policies in an economy that grosses over 374 billion dollars!

This Dede1 dude is clearly incapable of conducting any form of logical reasoning!

Dede1:
Any military intervention in Ivory Coast will go a long to indicate the level of idiocy among Africans. The issue is political and should be settle through political approach not military. The majority of responses to Ivory Coast’s political quagmire are very disappointing to say the least. Should Africans also resort to coups in order to change governments across the continent of Africa?

what examples of political approach would you recommend?

dayokanu:
Is that 2million Naira your flight ticket to naija?

probably not, considering he'd have to spend a part of it bribing officials at the point of entry!

But fraud consultancy is a good idea, any Nigerian will excel in such a position.

Fraud consultancy is a good line, i have a number of friends that have ventured into it and to them they aren't ever going to look back, what you need is the right qualification and experience. and you are right bro, if you are a Nigerian, you are bound to excel in such fields, all Nigerians learn a thing or two about fraud consulting growing up.

as for cloud computing, Nigeria's is still plagued by it's bane on internet services, but given a few years down the line, all that is set to fade away totally, and more businesses will seek ways to improve efficiency and reduce costs

Ola edo:
GEJ is too weak to be a leader of a country.First he gets bullied by FIFA,a sports organization, and submits. Now, he allowing the western powers to bully him again into killing his brothers and causing strife amongst west african countries.When is he going to ever grow some balls and say NO!

When are you going to ever  grow some brain cells and start thinking?

. . . ECOWAS was formed for a reason, to mediate in situations such as this, folding your arms while your neighbors suffer at the hands of a self imposed tyrant is the worst form of cowardice.  When are you lots going to stop blaming the West for everything including your girlfriends menstrual pain?

saintneo:
African WW is looming. No one knows whom Gbagbo is depending on for military support. With Ghana keeping mute like Switzerland I wonder what the position of Senegal and other francophone countries are.

Gbagbo is a sinking ship, whoever gets attached goes down under with him!

frosbel:
Can Nigeria really afford this ?

I agree with this post.  It's a situation too expensive for Nigeria ECOWAS to handle.  especially considering the uproar that is likely to result from a deadly battle between two factions.

The best solution is still to cut off all fundings to the Gbagbo's administration

What are you doing now?

What would you like to do in another 10 years?

In between lies your answer on where your dreams are best fulfilled.

If you have a sound business plan in mind, and you are looking to raise a family in an environment you are more familiar with, then it's a smart move to move back home.
If you are planning to start up with 2 million in Naija, you had better be selling services as a consultant in a specialist occupation such as fraud consultancy, cloud computing and all that shyt, and you had better start networking your contacts as soon as you land in Muritala.

Otherwise, it's a dog eat dog world out there, you'd have to put in your blood, tears and sweat to get anything out of it!

Eziachi:
Let me rephrase it, do you think that Gorillas has finger print?

I'd bet my breakfast you skipped English classes!

I knew IBB was never and has never been up to anything good, the gap toothed guileful bástard enjoys playing all sides!. . .and from all indications, it doesn't look as if Atiku is ready to give up without a fight.

PDP will eventually self implode!

After five days of consultations, former Vice-President Atiku Abubakar has decided not to take the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) to court over last Thursday’s presidential primary election.

Atiku was defeated by President Goodluck Jonathan who polled 2,736 to Atiku’s 805.

But intelligence agencies have uncovered that Atiku, alongside ex-President Ibrahim Babangida and Gen. Aliyu Gusau, might still pursue the zoning agenda to ensure that power shifts to the North in April after the general elections.

A northern stakeholders’ meeting is likely next week on how to stop Jonathan from winning the general elections.

The three leaders also resolved not to leave the PDP.

The no-legal-battle decision was the outcome of consultations with Gen. Babangida and Gen. Gusau on Sunday.

The pro-zoning leaders were said to have agreed that there was no point going to court over an election that was ‘teleguided’.

A source said: “The “G3” pro-zoning group, comprising Babangida, Atiku and Gusau has resolved not to challenge in court the emergence of Jonathan as the presidential candidate.

“The trio met on Sunday for a review of the presidential primaries. At the meeting, the three leaders remained unshaken in their belief in zoning or power rotation, which in effect means they still harboured reservations about Jonathan’s right to run for the ticket.

“However, the three leaders were convinced that whatever grievances they held cannot be resolved through litigation.

“All the three former presidential aspirants resolved not to leave the ruling party, but to remain in the PDP as loyal party men and to pursue their beliefs and principles from within the party.”

It was learnt, also, that Gen. Babangida and Gen. Gusau denied putting pressure on Atiku to accept the results of the primary and congratulate President Jonathan.

“The issue of congratulating the President was never discussed at the meeting. So, the story of pressure on Atiku is a mere figment of some people’s imagination,” a source said.

Intelligence sources, have uncovered a plot by Northern leaders to gang up against Jonathan in April.

According to sources, the plot was allegedly hatched at a meeting at the residence of the Co-convener of the Northern Political Leaders Forum, Mallam Adamu Ciroma, in Abuja.

Besides Ciroma, some of those at the meeting are Tanko Yakasai; Bello Kirfi; MD Yusufu;  Bashir Yusuf Ibrahim; Isa I. Salami; Prof. Abubakar; Ahmed Mohammed Gusau and Sani Zango Daura.


http://thenationonlineng.net/web3/news/25180.html

Fashola is not on NL you muppet!

Nice one, it's disheartening that he'd probably spend the rest of his life in a jail at taxpayer's expense. . . I want him in the chair immediately!

wesley80:
U're such a doofus. Now I see y they say u're a senile old woman. What has those maps and graphs got 2 do with internet penetration in the SW? and u're ROFLaughing your Dry AO!!!

that's rude and uncalled for!

Jakumo:
Teargas, rubber bullets, truncheon charges, water cannons, dogs and horsemen are the preferable means of containing mob disorder in streets, but the situation becomes far more chaotic when even a few of those demonstrators are seen brandishing or shooting firearms.

As soon as those armed policemen start to hear the supersonic crack of narrow misses in the air around their heads, the gloves are likely to come off, such that innocents WILL get caught in a crossfire and wind up as collateral casualties.

Not withstanding, should we consider it a joke that we are being encouraged to leave the safety and comfort of our homes to register and defend our votes while soldiers all around us wielding AK-47 are with instructions to shoot to kill at their discretion?

what kind of country is this?  is there a way the government can actually contain crises without having to resort to a barbaric order which makes of us savages?

How can we be safe in our country when our children and friends can be tagged victims or casualties just because they want a better government and want their votes to count?

Who cares? since they want to keep killing eachother, why not allow a neutral person do the killing for both party?

Remember that a corpse is just a corpse until that corpse is your pops!

Someone somewhere who's a breadwinner will lose his life just because of this careless order, that's someone else's pops with a name and a family to care for.

shoot to kill order?. . .are we at war or something?   . . . wow, so much for government by the people and for the people, soldiers are not to shoot to restrain anymore, they are now licensed to kill, this time, civilians, it doesn't matter if you are a kid!. . .

this is more than barbaric!. . .no government in it's right senses will abhor and license extra judicial killings!

Meldrick:
Look at the bolded part and be sincere with yourself. How many people can afford the money to learn those software programmes. I'll enlighten you if you don't know because Iam presently working with an IT company and know the cost of some of these programmes. You can go out of your way to ask programmers what it takes and they will tell you they were fortunate. With the level of poverty in the land, an average Computer Science student can't afford it and stop assuming that all students use all their money to buy clothes. Of course they must wear clothes or don't you buy. I wonder when wearing clothes have become luxury. Think man

When i say "go out of your way" i don't necessarily mean dole out millions of ### to learn programming, neither do i mean having to starve and walk náked in streets. . .for chrissake, it all starts with asking a friend to introduce him to another friend who understands and can teach a few things in programming. I learnt VBA by reading a borrowed textbook and practicing on a friend's laptop and i ain't even an IT person, but just because i know it generally makes my experience on excel easier, my first experience with hardware was with a broken computer, i just sat, watched and learnt. . .that's why we have long holidays and weekends,  . .if someone is not willing to go out of his way to learn, why should we assume that even if those computers are provided to his doorstep he'd bother to check em out?

stop blaming the government for things that can actually be taught and learnt within your immediate environment by your peers, you don't have to be an automobile engineer to learn how to drive, people teach you, why not the same with computers?. . . .you think man!

Wumine:
Cybercafes and computer classes you said? Well for your info, some Nigerian students cannot boost of money for that. For some, that is a luxury they can only wish for and believe me, i've been there. Some are actually ready to learn if given the resources. Y not make the computers readily available for them to learn with in school., i mean education in Nigeria should have gone beyond that for the love of God.

I still blame it on the 'agbaya' ^{big for nothing in yoruba} govt, there are millions of corpers out there to choose from and am telling you if they had not been too lazy in their 'search' and looking for cheap labour, they could have gotten more than enough that have been lucky to be computer literate. Then they needed to also have been trained well for the job, abi is govt cutting cost on that too abi is it late minute arrangement?

well said!

Now, let's follow your constraint theory of extremely limited resources, is it also suffice to say that their aren't individuals within the same faculties or departments that have personal computers from which others who don't can learn a thing or two from?


damn, all you need is
"Hello Bobby, can you please show me how certain things work on a computer, as you know now, it wouldn't be a cool thing if i graduate and i still can't operate a damn laptop"

Except of course our friends have a problem building relationships with people and are all introverts!