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bizarro95: secondly,to prove dat itachi didn't "giv" sasuke his powers,he told naruto dat "I programmed d eye to cast a genjutsu wen it sees my mangekyo cos I know sasuke woud omplant my eyes to GAIN more power...so why would he need to implant itachi's eyes to gain power if itachi had already given him d power by patting his head?....sasuke gained itachi's powers wen itachi's eyes were implanted into him nd nt wen itachi patted his head

Guy are you sure you read my post well? I'm saying the same thing as you as regards itachi giving sasuke his mangeykyo powers. My credibility is at stake here

^^^ When's the wedding?

Now start from the beginning and tell us the whole story

SIR cum a lot:
@wacky j How do you like your crow to be served ? Cooked or fried ?

it ain't served yet.. But i like it fried

Ihedinobi: Thanks, my brotha.

Wacky, gecho ass over here, you bumbling son of a gun. Look at this damn url and tell me what the heck you see, ya freak: http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/397/11

*Poof* hahaha... Well well well... You see back then we thought obito was madara so he would know but now that we know obito isn't that much older than kakashi (maybe just 1year difference). I say "What the heck does obito know"? Who in the Naruto universe has ever been aware of what Itachi does and how he runs his thing eh? kabuto? No. Orochimaru? No. Danzo? No. Nobody knew Itachi who compared to obito knew more about the sharingan.
My point is how would obito know that it was a transfer of ocular powers? He didn't even know how it was done.. Okay okay you might say i'm just defending myself when concrete proof is on ground (though i'm disputing the level of knowledge of the man whose words we're taking as concrete proof)

but then the question arises
What are Sasuke Uchiha's original mangeykyo sharingan's powers. That is if Itachi had not touched him in the head would sasuke have awakened his mangeykyo without any powers?
2. And why did He repeat that phrase in the picture below? Should he not have been feeling the powers since or is it that he was getting some powers he didn't have?

What are people saying!!
Bizarro we might have to seal you oh...
I agree with him on one point though
1. Itachi DID NOT GIVE SASUKE Amaterasu.. When he touched sasuke's head and sasuke used that amaterasu, it was Itachi's eyes that showed when the amaterasu was activated, distinctly showing whom the amaterasu belonged to and then another important point to note that sasuke had not awakened his mangeykyo at that time hence you cannot give someone a mangeykyo technique when the receiver didn't have a mangeykyo. And also note that the eye that sasuke uses to activate his amaterasu is different from Itachi's own .

2. Where did madara use amaterasu ? Which manga chapter?

ihedinobi is talking about love and women...
Your logic is sound dude but it's idealistic.
He's not in Love with that girl. Hell he's not dating her yet. But even If he is, he needs to put love deep in his back pocket and plan his way and strategise.
The fact that he's in love should not blind him to those things that girls respond to and how to use them to his advantage..

Ihedinobi: Honestly, I don't remember, Wacky-kun. Pleaae remind me of the chapters. It makes sense that they shpuld use the same dimension. It's what I would expect but I don't remember seeing any proof of that.

Chapter 608. Obito transported Kakashi to that dimension and kakashi transported himself back and obito was not even surprised

bizarro95: kakashi's genjutsu form is far weaker dan obito's...i think he just basically blocked obito's genjutsu effect cos obito is a master of genjutsu...obito actually posseses one of d most powerfull genjutsu form in d anime..able to trap two ppl in a genjutsu for over 2 weeks is no easy challenge...plus,he can kill som1 in a genjutsu using a normal sharingan genjutsu..even itachi couldn't do dat wit his normal sharingan

hahaha... Who dash Obito master of genjutsu. That title belongs to Itachi. Itachi without even using tsukyomi was able to reverse Kurenai's genjutsu on him. Not breaking it oh, reversing her own genjutsu talkless of his Tsukyomi that put a grown man in bed for a week.
2. You don't seem to understand how genjutsu works. Someone put under genjutsu will remain inside that genjutsu until either he breaks it(or someone breaks him out of it) or the caster breaks it, once you've casted the genjutsu you don't need much effort to maintain it. Remember in part 1 when naruto was put under genjutsu and left under one bush, he couldn't break it..
3. Check out Itachi's and sasuke's genjutsu battle and you'll know that it wasn't just blocking that was involved it was a full out genjutsu battle same as Kakashi's with obito.. They were both in each others genjutsu..
4. Obito said to Konan "at the end of this genjutsu you will die" or "once this genjutsu ends, so will your life"

bizarro95: amaterasu is nt a family thing dude...d susano av neva shown in a non amaterasu/tsukuyomi mangekyo.....dat madara posseses d susano means he has both amaterasu nd tsukuyomi....he already used tsukuyomi against raikage during d 5 kages beatdown so he definitely posseses d amaterasu....besides,d fact dat obito was able to easily counter d amaterasu shows dat he already had experience on amaterasu probably 4rm madara.....besides u're wrong by saying sasuke av neva used tsukuyomi...he used it against dat cloud ninja to get info abt killerbee's whereabouts nd also against danzo though danzo said sasuke isn't as skilled in d tech as itachi cos itachi could alter d victim's perseption of tym

First i will ask you. Do you know the difference between Genjutsu and Tsukyomi?
You made some good points though
Susanoo is awakened in both eyes after Amaterasu has been Awakened in one and Tsukyomi in the other.
But we've never seen madara use Amaterasu, If he had it he'd most probably have used it by now..

Ihedinobi: Aren't you assuming that their individual Kamui use the same dimension? Do they in fact do so?

hmmm. Hey you give ihedinobi back his phone!

On a serious note. There is nothing like individual Kamui, those are obitos eyes, they belong to one person just that each eye happens to be in different heads. You get Me.
Besides they spent about 2 manga chapters or even 3 proving that each eye actually transports to the same dimension. It was kakashi that noticed it first then they tried it,
first with a sharingan then transporting a naruto clone there.. Didn't you read those mangas?

Now Lets break it down. Obito's MS Is special, technically it's techniques all have one name; Kamui but the eyes express that space time ninjutsu in different ways
1. The eyes that Obito is with is capable of Intangibility and transporting the user(and anything he's in contact with) into it's other dimension essentially it is shortrange
2. The eye that Kakashi is with is capable of long range transportation.
Since the eyes are separated, they might be incapable of jutsus that require both eyes like the Susanoo.
Techniques like Amaterasu have only been seen via sasuke and Itachi so i'll assume it's a family thing...
the only technique i'm not sure of is Tsukyomi since madara and Itachi can use it but sasuke can't (sasuke's own is always referred to patheticaLLY As sharingan genjutsu).

Ihedinobi: You go fear argumentation na!

Plus, I think that Obito left Kakashi in that dimension as his last ace. That might mean that Kakashi essentially lost the fight unless he can somehow get out of it.

Their fight was more genjutsu than anything else sha so it wasn't so interesting. But the fact that Kakashi could use genjutsu was.

It was a 3/5 for me at the most and I hardly ever give Kishi less than 5/5.

Yes the fight was boring that's the only thing i will say..
Besides Kakashi can enter and leave that dimension at will he proved it earlier in the war. Being close to obito and knowing that it was the same eye and the same technique really gave him the knowledge to use Kamui for more than just long range use

Feraz: That was before meeting Nagato. . . . He had his power, defeated the Kirigakure ninjas, trained on being the next Madara before meeting Minato. . . .

lol. The fight against the Kirigakure ninjas was rubbish what helped him was mainly Kamui..
But that aside. The fight was impromptu and he was not yet ripe. I think he met nagato before meeting minato. Remember he was wearing a wooden mask then but he met nagato still with spiral zetsu..

One reason for knowi the past is that you can know the kind of person he or she was. Whether you want to admit it or not no matter how much you want to look at the future. Past habits have a way of showing up into the future...
What if the girl has another relapse?
That said... OP The girl has taken a very bold step to tell you that very dark secret. She loves you and trusts you deeply... Give her that same trust and look to the future with her.. Never bring up the past... Do all that only if you want to continue with her if not, just leave her now...
But seeing as she told you (you're probably the first guy she told and you'll be the last if you leave now), she is worth giving it a shot

Feraz: Nah. . . He has. . . Remember he killed the Kirigakure ninjas before facing Minato. . . .

Was that before or after meeting Nagato?
Check your timeline well

KazeKage1: Sasuke and Naruto will take care of Madara. One of them may likely die in the process. Somewhere in all of this, there's a loop which we're failing to see.
Why didn't Nagato Rinne-tensei himself? Despite being frail and sickly? Or break free from edo-tensei? Like Itachi did, despite not having the Rinnegan? Kishi is steady trying to tie-up loose ends but only manages to complicate things

When you're watching, watch carefully.
1. Obviously you cannot rinne-tensei yourself that is why madara needs obito.
2. Itachi broke free from kabuto's control but not from the edo tensei, only madara has done that so far... There is a difference between breaking from the control and breaking from the jutsus. Two reasons why Itachi didn't break free from the edo tensei,
a. He didn't want to following his ideologies.
b. He didn't know the seals to use to do so..
Itachi didn't break free from Kabuto's control using his own prowess, it was using a reverse method with one of the most powerful genjutsu. Nagato didn't have access to such so he couldn't.

firestar: I foresee painful taunt-jabs from Tobirama.
...and Hashirama watches on...
All in front of everyone...


If Madara is Rinne-tensei revived...and Hashirama doesn't counter it,
Yawa go gas.

You're putting too much on Harashima's head, he's already held down trying to keep that seal up with the rest of the Kage. Don't think he'll be able to stop the ressurection,

Again, was it not this obito that had his hand blown with a small rasengan by naruto? and then his stomach punched well by kakashi? Before that fight with kakashi inside that dimension he had already been battered up a bit even with all his supposed abilities....
The only time kakashi should be underranked is when he's being compared to his predecessors and naruto apart from that he's still someone who became a jounin at the age that naruto and sasuke were graduating from the academy.
Feraz, Itachi never fought obito. And also i don't think it was obito that transported madara to where he was at that time because he was deeply concentrating on what he was doing then and also he was surprised a bit when madara showed up..
Also forget that rinnegan consumes a lot of chakra thing, Nagato(forget that he's an uzumaki thing you're thinking of), madara never complained of any extraordinary drain from using the rinnegan, from obito's overfrequent use of his MS then we can assume that he has the chakra needed to handle use of the rinnegan..
What i believe is that obito was running low of chakra at that point and frankly so was kakashi, so they had to resort to old school fighting. I don't think it's the first time that it's happening in the naruto universe though i can't remember which two people did it..
The fight was boring no doubt but it was one hit and though kakashi defeated obito i don't think obito would have died had madara not intervened..

biolabee: Now i can talk .. so lame

IS THAT ALL??


The great killer of the 4th mizukage, The fighter with minato, The conqueror of konan

Having the rinnegan and and EMS Convieniently beaten by one raikiri

Itachi could not beat this guy, pain obeyed this guy and learnt how to use the gedou from this same dude

So his great rinnegan was defeated by a raikiri

The EMS of obito could not decipher the moves

Only beaten by ONE Raikiri

Zetsued user +EMS + Rinnegan beaten by an adopted user of Sharingan

Kishi.. I hail oooo

kraftykc: ...Bro...

One word; RINNENGAN!

Obito has the strongest dou jutsu ever in the series and he gets knocked down by a bone weary Kakashi? FOR WHICH EARTH NAH

Feraz: LMAO!!! Thought I was the only one embarrassed. . . I'm still surprised that the same Obito that Itachi couldn't take on is the person Kakashi is taking on. . . Kishi give us something better. . . .

Not necessary to win but to stop any evil schemes he has in the future of which he doesn't know besides, Minato didn't really figure out his technique then but only assumed that he uses a space-time ninjutsu. . . .

Now i am here to defend Kakashi's honour.. Ihedinobi has disappointed me, if it's to defend sasuke or defend madara's actions now or that the sage of six paths is an uzumaki, he'll be available. Bro reanalyse that chapter and come back.
Now
1. I wonder where it was that Obito was the one who killed the 4th Mizukage, he only controlled him so far as i know. Neither do i recall Itachi ever fighting obito
2. Obito fought minato yes but why is everyone tripping for that? Looking closely that was a very poor fight which showed that at his age obito did not use his head well and had his body crushed by just one rasengan even when he's someone that knew of minato's abilities while minato didn't know of his i.e he had the element of surprise. remember also that at this time that kakashi was a jounin and an anbu captain, at that time he was probably at naruto's current age.
3. When you say somebody has something, you should know what that means, you can use it anytime, anyhow. So far how have we seen obito use the rinnegan apart from using it to create the six paths and then using their shared vision? Apart from that it's just dormant from what i can recall...
4. Obito's main advantage has always been his jutsu that no one understands, the only time that someone who understood it used the knowledge against him, he almost died, that's konan, he had to use a forbidden jutsu to save himself, a very last resort for any uchiha. Now compare that to someone who actually has the same eye plus knowledge about obito's style of fighting both old and new and see what you have.
5. Obito has been fighting and expending his chakra throughout the fight while he was with madara, kakashi did same too but he got a chakra refill before they both went to the other dimension so that puts kakashi on par if not with more chakra than obito.
6. Obito has MS, And has a large chakra reserve which is why he uses his own that freely. His MS Seems to be special which is why his and kakashi's don't go dim like the rest

directonpc: U want see am or u want snach am?

If i fit Snatch am i go try....

elijahdre: going to send this product to Emmanuel at UNIBEN and Mr Musa at Gombe State. Distant notwithstanding.call :08034795720 for own too.thanks

I'll love to see this product as i am at uniben. Where is this emmanuel?

*Shoots ihedinobi tranquilizer* Go to bed Jor i'll face you tomorrow. I don't hate Tsunade and i don't hate sasuke, i liked him once he came back in the beginning of Naruto shipudden when he came back looking like a prince (still wish he would go back to dressing like he did then).
Just that sasuke can't become hokage, he needs atleast 1year of active service to the village

Ihedinobi don land. E clear say e set well this night

firestar: Talking pets aren't normal o. Even Shino's insects. _{Even if na only im sabi wetin dem dey squeak}... all those pets are ninken, regardless of size. Kishi might just pull one filler from smewhere y'know.
Ninken is ninken.

That's what i'm saying summons talk, animals don't.
Summons aren't Ninken, You sign contract with Summons not with Ninken, once you sign you get one free, they have their special place where they're summoned from... While the ninken, you're given when you're born, you train with them living everyday life with them..
Is Tsunade's pig a ninken? #curious

firestar: They don't have to summon deers just like the Inuzukas don't have to summon their wolfhounds.

Those things aren't summons, they're just normal Pets, you can't compare Kakashi's dogs which can talk by the way to the dogs that the inuzuka use. I'm not even sure the dogs can perform any jutsu on their own. and the nara clans deer are just deer, useless in battle.

if_i_hear: I meant the BBCDAY stuff on MTN which costs just 100naira and you get abt 2.24GB/day

explain further

What's all this talk about summons?
Tayoccu why are you hyping the snakes ? What about sasuke's Hawk? If that one use him talon match the snake for head. The snake never die ? Danzo's pet was defeated by sasuke himself not by a summon... Even pain's summons aren't just zombies, just like the six paths are dead humans so also the summons are dead ex summons. The usefulness of a summon is not mainly defined by it's nature but by how the summoner uses his pet..
The 3 way deadlock is called the 3way deadlock because either one of the big snake or frog is scared of the gentle voiced Katsuyu

Feraz: Your head is there. . .

WackyJ1, what is happening?

The biometrics are compulsory but i heard it was stopped yesterday because of the incident. It may most probably continue today

Actually i figured it out, what sasuke wants to burn down the seal holding the juubi down. i don't trust the guy one bit and he can never be Hokage for my front

viruz007: But seriously Minato what a name for that jutsu... Haba

The guy wan cause confusion before im commot, Fatherly pride don inflate im head

OP let me tell you the truth, forget this girl. she won't even last the first year talkless of five years. Girls with their boyfriends just a state away are making mistakes talkless of an 18 year old girl whose so called boyfriend is in canada. She will mess up and tell herself that you're probably doing the same in canada with the fine fine white chics there.
If She is in the Uni then forget it, all hope is lost. Do 18 year old girls even know the meaning of commitment these days? They see it as stress when there are so much fun to be had with the guys on ground. Infact only peer pressure alone is enough to make your babe waver talkless of the many advances by guys out there. Don't even want to know the character of your babe but i am telling you the Gospel truth.
And all those ones telling you that if it is meant to be that you can come back after 5 years, Oga by that time no less that 3 guys don enter the promise land. No be one girl come nairaland come talk about 15men in 4 years?
Forget those idealistic things about the things needed to keep long distance relationship,lets be realistic, those things would hold once one sharp guys has switched off your girl's logical center and is smooching her in her room.
better forget her and let her go and blame fate for destroying it.