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How old is this MrsCHIMA Sef ? Can't you reason the above post for yourself and understand things instead of coming here to ask us questions? Are we supposed to know your husband better than you do? Is it this year you got married?
If you were in His shoes now with that female friend of his that you just don't like, no reason (knowing how irrational that women can be regardless the century) what would you expect him to do?
Do what is wise, for the sake of preservation of peace and forget all this your 21st century, feminist ideals..

uzoo: Some ladies like number 1 ,1a and 3 in their partner,in fact it turns them on .

But really can any girl stand number 2?..... when it comes to that the guy definitely needs professional help like Yield said.

What are you saying... I don't think any girl likes 1, 1a and 3 and even they do, the feeling lasts only for a short time and then it becomes irritatin.
Girls that like it for so long and even enjoy it have problems..

No 2 does not necessarily need proffesional help especially when the feeling is valid..

Ihedinobi: One had "his eyes", remember? The other had his body. If you're asking why both didn't have his eyes, then I'd ask you why both had to.

Ihedinobi does this look like the Rinnegan to you?
and why is it that
When the characteristics were chared, they were shared in such a precise manner and even obito (whom we must admit is quite knowledgeable in matters relating to the sage) didn't say that he inherited the sage's eyes but instead, the Sage's powerufl chakra and spiritual energy while the second son inherited the sage's powerful life force and physical energy (Point being that he mentioned this and all that came with it as the sage's characteristics, mention of inheriting them from the Juubi)
It is becasue of the latter and the fact that the senju and the Uzumaki are related that you theorise that the Senju must be Uzumaki (hence life force was there before the Juubi) but you do not want to also say that the Spritual energy and the dojutsu whcih is what he gave to the other son was also there before that Juubi as the senju and the Uchiha are related, just like the Uzumaki and Senju are.

Ihedinobi: Guys na, if there was no ninjutsu before the old Sennin defeated the Juubi, there were no kekkei genkai. There were no byakugans, no sharingans, no ice whatever (Haku's kekkei genkai), no poison mists, no jintons, no rinnegans...at least in humans. These peculiarities would start to manifest automatically with the unlocked ability to mold chakra, would they not?

Perhaps the byakugan is a bloodline from the Elder son, perhaps it is not. The one thing that is certain is that it does not have to be anymore than Haku'sclan had to descend from the old Sennin to have a kekkei genkai.

bro i shake my head at what you wrote there, i was Severly disappointed then, infact if you had said that men were using there kekkai Genkai to fight in a rough and unrefined way before the sage who was a monk came and told them how to improve it then i would have gotten you.
1. The fact that men wre unable to mold chakra, is it a function of lack of knowledge or the fact that just the way 2 + 2 is not equal to Fish that men could not just mold chakra, if not then what changed.
2. Men Mold chakra to do jutsus and without molding chakra, they might not be able to perform the elaborate Jutsus that are the mainstream of the Naruto Universe but then being unable to perform those Jutsus does not mean that the ability to do them was not there inside of them, unable to be expressed properly, that my friend is the kekkai genkai.
a. What is the difference between kekkai genkkai and Ninjutsu. Let's start with definitions Kekkai Genkkai is translated as Bloodline Limit are abilities passed down genetically within specific clans. While Ninjutsu is basically any technique that involves the use and manipulation and transformation of chakra for a number of techniques which the user would not be able to do use normally, infact basically anything that a person does using chakra can be called ninjutsu. Hence which is why you can say that no ninjutsu no kekkai genkkai as the expression of many kekkai gekkai is done via techniques which seeing as they require chakra is ninjutsu, but the differences are many
i. kekka genkkai cannot be copied but ninjustu can
ii. Kekkai genkkai is a genetic something and Ninjustu is not.
iii. You can teach ninjutsu but not kekkai genkkai (except to someone with the same kekkai gekkai)
Now here's why i believe that kekkai many have existed before the sage
i. Simply put, the inablity to express something does not mean that the thing is not there, infact the fact that people possessed chakra is their bodies is enough proof that Kekkai genkkai is possible
ii. What is the purpose of hand seals? They help Ninjas to mold chakra and if there was no one to teach them how to form hand seals probably means that no one knew how to old chakra to peform techniques, this simple fact may negate the existence of ninjutsu but not the existence of kekkai Gekkai, and why is mentioned in the next point
iii. Many Kekkai gekkai we see today in the naruto world do not require handseals to make. In addition to that many kekkai manifested in Children before they were even of academy age, e.g Kimmimaro, Haku, Jugo. Think back to back then, would kimmaro have needed to make handseals to bring out bones from his body? No, it would just be manifesting like that unlike Haku who needed handseals to fully manifest the expression of his kekkai Gekkai and even then he is the only person mentioned to do one handed seals. I never See jugo do one hand seal for my life. This said it is possible for people to have been manifesting their kekkai Gekkai without knowing Ninshu.
iv. From what we have seen so far, it is possible for just one person within a particular clan to possess a kekkai genkkai while others do not, case study Harashima. which is why one person from the Uzumaki can can just wake up one morning with the rinnegan and starts carrying a staff around *Winks and does YImU*. As such we cannot acount for all the populace at that time,
V. infact it could be that in the whole world then, only ten people had kekkai gekkai that they could manifest hence their scarcity and could be regarded as myth. And even then many more could have been born and manifested but they could be seen as evil children and then killed before anyone knows anything while the ones that were kept alive were kept in isolation.

b. if you say there were no ninjutsus and then no kekkai genkai then you must also say that there was no chakra and hence no sage of six paths and no defeating of the kuubi and then no rinnegan and then no senju and uchiha and other clans and no naruto and no thread and then each of us are ninjas without chakra.

KazeKage1: Where did the byakugan come from? Who's the ancestor of the Hyuuga clan?
If the rinnegan grants you the ability to use six paths, why didn't Obito's six paths use the techniques Nagato's used?
If Rasengan/Rasenshuriken is NOT a senjutsu technique(he does them without getting into SM), how in the world is it able to affect Obito?

2. As per Obito's Choice, obito himself could use the techniques of the 6 paths as evidenced when he threatened to use the power of the human path on yamato
As for your third question, it is the same reason that the Rasenshuriken is able to leave Naruto's hand, naruto creates the technique and then shrouds it with senjutsu chakra, he explained it himself during the battle with pain

Nairaland=info:
How i wish SM waz an evalastin eyez, he (naruto) wud hav been the GREATEST (cheat) shinobi beta dan rinnegan/sharingan i swear.......evun kishi made sure naruto wudn't las more dan 5minz in SM cos dat eyez is the bestest of d bestest
I sti don't undastand the jutsu of BM naruto xcept 4 speed

Naruto himself has said that he can extend the amount of time that one can stay in sage mode through training and if you noticed, he usually exhausts his sage mode chakra before he leaves sage mode, not that the sage mode expires, so for now we don't really know how long he can stay in sage mode now. Though i still believe that you are overestimating the sage mode, the true power lies in that bijuu mode, go and check out the justsus he used with it earlier in the war, though most are rasengan based.

Feraz: Hey guys...good to see this thread still alive. Why has rasengan always been Obito's weak point or haven't you guys noticed it? I'm even sure that is gonna be the technique to finish him.
So because of woman, na in make this Obito dey misbehave? Where are the kunoichis in the house? Firestar, Fellis, Taioluv, Miss Ope, tskjii? See what a man can do cos of love.

Bro tell them oh,the only girl that has really acted for love is hinata even sakura never do anything for love when she has been claiming love for sasuke since

Feraz: Are you guys still arguing about Rikoudo Sennin, the juubi and the rinnegan?

I remember saying here that it seems like when you're in control of a bijuu as a jinchuuriki, some knowledge are automatically passed down? Case study, when Naruto started controlling the kyuubi, he automatically had the knowledge of using another seal more powerful than the one his dad used to lock the kyuubi. See Obito too, when did he learn using the sun flaming technique to form a barrier?

dude.
1, the 9 tails is a mass of chakra unlike the Juubi that is both body and chakra
2. Naruto is an Uzumaki, remember he was given a scroll by Jiraiya, that scroll contained the seal that Naruto used. Konoha and Uzumaki no dey lack for Sealing Jutsu
3. We do not know the Jutsus that Obito knew before becoming the Jinchuuriki of the Juubi so to assume therefore that the Juubi gave him the knowledge of those seals is the same as assuming that before the Juubi, there was no rinnegan and men did not know how to mold chakra and many of the Jutsus that the rikudo knew were from the Juubi without first establishing what he didn't know before the juubi *side eyes ihedinobi*. And in addition to that we also do not know whether or not Obito had the power to use certain seals that he knew how to do first, who knows what knowledge that obito has been exposed to over the years and i would more likely believe that he knew the seals rather than getting it from the Juubi.

Feraz:


Let us all not forget that it is said that the Uchiha descended from the Sage's first son who inherited the Sage's eyes. As shown in the manga and anime, we see the son having spiral eyes which isn't the same as the Sage. Now, many generations passed and the Uchiha descended from the 1st son. Looking at it, you find out that between the first son of the Sage and the Uchiha clan, a lot must have happened like the dojutsu with the exception of the rinnegan being separated. The Hyuuga must have also descended from the Sage's first son since he inherited the eyes. I can therefore lay claim to the fact that the Hyuuga is a distant cousin to the Uchiha as the Uzumaki is to the Senju.

I endorse This

SniperInADiaper: Hmmm

Surprised? I wrote a whole article on that demon

2buff: LOL at all the shluts trying to use silly words like "insecurity" to deter the fact from the matter that they are actually double d1ck clutching, quadro d1ck sucking shluts!!!

Are you:
- Spending long hours talking to your Ex?
- deleting text messages?
- Not returning his correspondence, whether by phone or otherwise?
- Always picking fights with him over dumb shhit?
- Lying and telling stories that don't add up after the slightest cross-examination?

Then my dear, his "insecurity" has nothing to do with it. You know you're just being an "oliver"

Spot on

pri3stess: I guessing that you're insecure as well.

I'm not. You're a coward because you'd rather run or jump to another nigga than do this

Monicasque: if one has some things their are not comfortable with in their life, its easy to be an insecured lover but as the person who is in love with that person i am sure there are some good qualities that u have picked up from this person that just make u feel like ''WOW''. SO why not try help your loved one. Try understand the route of their insecurity and help them work through it. Even if the person relapses u can still give it a try, even though if the relapse occures too often u will feel like just giving up and living the whole situation. I gues what i am trying to say is try save it before u let it go

chidyhels: You know what people don't knw? No matter who led the breakup, the two are hurt.

Na so... Big lie

Stegomiah: cos we can handle the truth!

How can you expect the truth when you've just lied up there..

ejifranks: please what are the symptoms of insecurity in menis it only jealousy...abeg someone educate meoooo

1. Possesiveness- attempting to limit her movements..
a.. Always trying to track her movements, calls e.t.c
2. Paranoia- always being scared that someone will take her away from you Or that she'll leave
3. Jealousy
4. Low self esteem

pri3stess: Tufiakwa, I can never date an insecure person, they are the type that will kill their partner out of jealousy, when you start seeing traits like that in a person, it's usually time to bounce.

Coward.

Temismith: Angelo was d only competetion melvin had in d house, now he is out. Naija will hav to decide on whom to vote for between melvin and beverly. Its going to be a long week for poor beverly since her 2 husbands r gone.

It's like you're a learner. No be beverly again.. The only thing we're seeing this coming week is auditions for angelo's replacement..

maxwello.yg:
If I know I hurt her and left her afterall. I won't ever go back, but will learn a couple of lessons though(from the broken relationship).

and when you think what she might be thinking of you now?

sexytabhi: I cn handle you

Oh yeah...

Lyn i need your contribution on my thread
www.nairaland.com/1399220/how-does-did-it-feel#17500315

2sexy bro see as we Jam for this thread..

Sanboy25: Very interesting topic, its been a while since we didn't see one like that in this section.

Thanks.. though it seems people are avoiding it

Sanboy25:
I, personally, can't answer to your question BUT I suppose that as every one is different:
Very few might be feeling a bit guilty when facing this person and MOST OF THEM don't give a ish if they broke the heart of this person or made them suffer, they just continue living as if it were normal to be cruel to others....
That's why it's important, as a victim, to go on with your life and be happy.

You've never broken someone's heart before?

Enegod:

Well?

lynpetra: Honey,I am one lucky gem!Have got something better and he is sooo damn cool.

Lol. Will you ever admit if He ain't better than that one...

lynpetra: Don't bite yourself,my regrets doesn't stay long.The regret came ONLY because I lost a cool guy who I LOVE.Not a cool guy I dont love.Always had them coooooooool,

Do the regrets ever stay long for ladies?

lynpetra: but I always sneak out...if I don't feel nada.

That's Lyn for ya...

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Many ladies will say yes to this but in actuality many can't handle it.
If i see my bro showing the symptoms of insecurity,i'll help him work through because i know that many ladies think selfishly and will just find an excuse to bail

iykmora: Enough wit d argument and counter argument. Pls y'all should chill a little.

Do you want this thread to die?

Tosyn007: Hell no...which do you think Rikudo did first, dispersing the Juubi into smaller bits and sharing his powers between his children?

He will quote manga for you

Tosyn007: He already had the power of the rinnegan and strong life force before he faced the Juubi, else what would he have usedto conquer that much chakra and suppress it?

He will say that he Sage was an Uzumaki and then combined with the clans sealing techniques and the sage treasured tools that it would have been possible. after all, strong life force is one of the characteristics of the Uzumaki clan

I agree with you but i'm telling you where the blows will come from in advance

Ihedinobi: 1. The Sage became something more than human after becoming Juubi Jinchuuriki

Come now Ihedinobi , you have taken a innocous statement could mean anything and twisted it to your own meaning (just kidding, you have just taken one plausible meaning that fitted the future point you have to make and gone with it). i could choose to also explain it like this: Remember that the sage was in the old times and as such when he became the Jinchuuriki his power levels increased to the point where he was able to things far greater than any ninja at that time and it is also plausible that these new things were already his techniques but magnified to a new and unique level that made people truly awe and as people or those days, they made that statement.
b. It is also possible that before the sage went on his preaching mission, he defeated the ten tails and then appearing after that to the people, he was regarded as something more than human
c. The ten tails was a god and the Sage of Six paths defeated him and hence was too regarded as a god or rather more apecifically, the God of Shinobi and you can agree with me that strictly speaking a god is something more then human.

Ihedinobi: 2. He had two sons as Juubi Jinchuuriki

3. The Elder inherited his eyes/ocular power, the Younger inherited his body.

LOl number 2 makes me chuckle and say to myself he for wait make the Jinchuuriki commot first before he find woman? is that whay you said this ?

Ihedinobi: The Senju and the Uchiha are together what the Sage was after he became the Juubi Jinchuuriki not what he was before.

Dude i see massive biological overhaul here and there is nothing from the following point you have made below

Ihedinobi: 4. A Jinchuuriki always acquires certain characteristics from the bijuu he/she houses.

that supports that kind of thing in any future jichuuriki, the only thing that naruto was born with were fox like whiskers, Naruto isn't even excessively hairy. and this is a doujutsu we're talking about here.

Ihedinobi: The Senju and the Uchiha are together what the Sage was after he became the Juubi Jinchuuriki not what he was before.

As such, if either a Senju or an Uchiha became the Juubi Jinchuuriki we would not see the same changes that resulted in the Sage when he became Jinchuuriki.

What about the sage's own bloodline, by assuming the above, you have said that all the sage was, was just because he became the Jinchuuriki of the Juubi, it is easy to claim that fact because we don't know from where he came from before (forget that Uzumaki thing) and as i said before, we have not seen or recorded any mention of a complete biological overhaul like that from the naruto world or even naruto himself who was birthed by the nine tails Jinchuuriki.
and then again the question still stands how can you ate what a man has become when he became the Jinchuuriki of the Juubi when you did not know what he was before?
The Sage was a monk who understood the very nature of chakra and was able to spread ninjutsu to the world, what other tool would be good for understanding the nature of chakra than a doujutsu that sees chakra as blearly as the byakugan and then grants you the ability to use all 5 chakra nature types (practice?).

Is it because you think that the sage was an Uzumaki and his clans sealing techniques and shit load of chakra is all that he needed to defeat the Juubi? and that's why you don't bother to look at other things as clues what the sage might have been before?

Ihedinobi: Yes, all either of those two needed to be able to use the Sage's techniques (techniques that became possible after he became Juubi Jinchuuriki)

I no go lie for you, me sef tire for this statement. MY question still stands do you know what a man was before before you can say what the man is now? You have not shown where the manga noted a difference in the techniques he was able to perform before and after becoming the Jinchuuriki.

Ihedinobi: Neither Senju nor Uchiha need the Juubi to get the rinnegan. They both need each other's dna only and the chakra to activate it.

This point can also agree with me too because if the sage was born with the rinnegan and then there are no influences from the Juubi and the senju and Uchiha are the natural progressions of his lineage then the above is very possible.

Ihedinobi: 5. The Juubi is the creator and destroyer of all things.

6. The bijuu are derivations and aspects of the Juubi.

INFERENCE:

The rules would most likelt be different for a monster strong enough to seal the creator and destroyer of all things in his body and house it without dying from the strain.

Ihedinobi: The very fact that becoming Juubi Jinchuuriki elevated him above mere humanity means that his "Jinchuurikiness" is different than all others that we know now.

The sage was the first of his kind and then the Juubi was also one too so making the above inference is quite simple but trying to combine it with the following point to try and reach your aim us just what i call a bit over reaching

Ihedinobi: It is entirely plausible that the genes he passed on bore characteristics that he obtained from housing the Juubi in his body.

Yes very plausible but then genes contain a lot of information ranging from simple features like colour of eyes to other features like .....
saying that housing a tailed beast and then led to the passing on of doujutsu and creation of a whole new bloodline when we have not see anything like that from the current naruto world which you have justified simply because of your previous point (the one above the one i quoted just now).

SIR cum a lot:
Have got no comeback for this strong counterpoint
Except maybe jiraya would fail under similar circumstance.

#scratches head and walks away#

Wowo and i was about to come and give you some too...
Bros come to the jiraiya side, we got fine ladies over here and they ain't snakes

sarutobie: 1. Wasn't shikamaru the first guy to become chunin among his peers?
2. Wasn't he requested by the Feudal lord himself to join as his personal guard at such age?
3. Kishi even hinted(via another character) that Shikamaru had the potential of becoming a good Hokage(to be likened to a Hokage is no small praise)..
4. guy who thinks up 200 various moves in a battle and has the ability to choose the best out of the 200 possible scenerios is strictly speaking,abnormal..
5. people think Hidan is weak? Hehehehehe..you think without shika's brain team kakashi would have had it easy?..so far apart from Shikaku,only Minato and hiruzen have shown the same innate brain power..it shouldn't be confused,having an astronomical IQ like shikamaru and being 'wise' in the ways of shinobi is a different thing..that is where the likes of itachi excel..my 2 cents

I wanted to type and i saw this and as i saw this i just stopped.
Nanni 666 come and read this and see

nani.666:
lol...this is wrong on so many levels

Asuma himself set an iq test for shikaru and measured his iq to be above 200 which is immeasurable intelligence. Kakashi himself stated that he was a good hokage candidate and sakura which is noted for her intelligence said that shikamaru is the smartest person in the fire nation.
Whether you want to admit it or not defeating an akatsuki member then as a chuunin was a big proof that shikamaru's brain power. Remember that Hidan was an S class ninja and him and Kakuzu defeated the two tailed beast. and he was also firestar's ex bf

nani.666:
During the battle with Obito SO6P now Shikamaru is nowhere to be found... he's just watching from a safe distance....its the second that's doing all the analysis... even Naruto deciphered that Senjutsu would work against Obito.... Abeg don't mention Shikamaru here again abeg :|

Guy go and get your facts well and stop being so obviously biased, did you miss what shikamaru did before obito became the jinchuriki of the juubi. Is it shikamaru that will analyse everything and everyone will wait for him? im your attempt to diss shikamaru you've opened your ass full of bias.

nani.666:
You're the one who needs to get your facts well bro....you should already know that The only reason Kakashi's chakra drains so quickly is cos of his sharingan....having the uchiha eyes without the uchiha body is a big disadvantage.... ( Itachi stated that)...Kakashi's sharingan uses up too much of his chakra...Itachi possesses the Uchiha body to complement his sharingan... thus his chakra isn't drained by his sharingan... So that being said...I stand by my previous post..Kakashi with a chakra boost would b unstoppable. You really need to brush up on your Naruto bro

How much chakra do you think that kakashi has or that his sharingan consumes? you never define these things and yet you would like to sum up of all of kakashi's weaknesses into that single fact,how then did he become popularly known as the copy ninja defeatiing so many opponents if the sharingan were limiting him as you said.
2. Its is known that with time and practice, it is possible to extend the length of time that one can use his/her sharingan in the battle field and kakashi qite frankly has had his sharingan as longer as obito has and we saw that there was an increase in the number of times that he was able to use kamui in a day.Fact is that kakashi has had his sharingan for many nany years and if that is still his excuse for being unable to perform still then that is a failure within itself.
3. Are you also aware that Itachi has low amounts of chakra, imagine an uchiha being only able to use his mangeykyo 3 times a day? I think Sasuke used his way more than that before his chakra began to give out.
and if there is something that i have learnt in naruto, it is that it is not about chakra but it is about brains and how your are able to use your own justsus well combined with analysis, which is why people like shikamaru, minato and itachi do. so if you think that it's all about chakra then your wrong, giving kakashi a lot of chakra would be a big improvement of course but there would still be characters able to defeat him and quite frankly everyone would be better with a bit boost of chakra. After all what has he done with all the 1000 justsus he get first?

nani.666:
if someone like Kakashi had excessive chakra...like if he was a Jinchuuriki.... he would be undefeatable... he would be a cheat..... The only reason he lost against Pein was cos he ran out of chakra...that's his only problem...he runs out of chakra too quickly... he would be the best and strongest shinobi if he had enough chakra

Go and get your facts well.. How much chakra do you think that Itachi has that he uses to wipe the floor with Kakashi?
Kakashi's problem is not chakra....
It's from itachi that i knew that it's not about massive chakra...

nani.666:
the truth is that if you really know itachi san you'd know that he's someone that doesn't go looking for trouble... he prefers to accomplish his missions with the least amount of stress (and fighting).... just as he told Asuma and Kurenai before dealing with them...he warned them not to interfere with his work... that he wouldn't want to kill them..same with Jiraiya when he saw him with Naruto...he decided to distract Jiraiya with a babe...He told Kisame that they would probably die if they fight Jiraiya..doesn't mean he can't take Jiraiya on... Fighting a Sannin like Jiraiya would be a long tedious battle...that would end up derailing his mission...

At the bolded parts... Itachi was able to cut of orochimaru's arms when both were alone immediately because according to what you're saying, it requires the least amount of stress while for jiraiya you said it yourself..

Whenever topics about exes come up here in the roman section, most people only have negative things to say their ex. But humans are not perfect and everyone is an ex, so many people have been the ex that their ex would say negative things about.

so You're the guy or the girl that your ex loved so much and tried his best to do what was right for you and the relationship but for whatever reason,
1. You cheated
2. you left for someone else
3 You never took the person serious and you were just using him or her to pass time
4. You were naive
5. you mistreated the person
and BOTTOMLINE: you hurt the person very much and you know you were wrong and unfair especially when the person cared about you very much.
Now you are the ex the person remembers whenever there's talk of those who hurt you, betrayal, wrong person to date and all that.

How does it feel when you remember that person and how you wronged the person? and what do you tell yourself? Do you justify your actions? Always be sorry or just don't care?

sirhot: Guy dont get carry away, you are just an option for now, when the person she likes shows then you are history. I'm not being pessimistic

OP i might have to agree with this .
I read your previous thread and i was vexed when you said you wanted to wait for a girl who had a boyfriend just because she said there were problems...
When did she break up wit the guy and when did she start dating you?
Don't be a foolish lover boy and open your eyes.. You seem like the type that would be begging and begging to keep the relationship If she suddenly decides she's not interested again.

cnwamo:
see beefing o!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bros Gala na 50naira oh

SIR cum a lot:
After the whole itachi back story was revealed,It was hard to believe whether itachi ran from jiraya because he was afraid or he didn't want to kill a konoha shinobi more focus on the latter because he fought kurenai and kakashi without killing them
.

Low blow man... Why didn't He just fight jiraiya without killing him?

SIR cum a lot:
Jiraya got a life threatening scar from a training exercise with a berserk naruto the tail level I do not know.

It was a training exercise.. It was naruto and it was the first punch which he did not expect. Also consider that the second time he was near death again was when tsunade caught him spying on her.

SIR cum a lot:
Yeah he got pawned by sasgay (bedridden at this time) but one could argue that he didn't want to damage his would be vessel
And yeah, also he got pawned by Itachi,again one could argue who hasn't been pawned by him.

"didn't want to damage his vessel" just as jiraiya "didn't want to damage his students son".

SIR cum a lot:
Also I think he would have faired better against pein because he has dabble in too much black juju to be easily killed like that. His kuychi should've been a roach.

lol. I'll like to see the seventh path pulling out orochimaru's tongue. He go pull tire... For full 20mins..