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windywendy:from what I am hearing there is misatke of identity. The company covering th eastern market is said not to be listed on the NSE!!!! |
windywendy:If you have a real agbero broker, fire your order for Oando at MARKET to him/her right now!!! It will do you well both for CICO and even for the Long Term. OandO will soon ask to have a separate sector for it on the NSE with two companies. the marketing (less profitable) and the upstream. Now is the timen to get in before the split. They will also do a PO soon and you can be sure, for an oil company they talk in dollars so expect a similar MTN type of thing. With the recent acquisition ( i only hope Tinubu no go wake up and say na Ocean and Oil buy the bloc), you can be sure that na money spinning. Add that to gaslink supplying gas to Lagos you have the first integrated energy company out there. Major risk is corporate gorvernance. Not sure that Tinubu and co will not do a yahoo yahoo!! |
loma:AP's current price. Chevron will disappear and their shareholders will be alloted AP shares based on teh merger scheme. For the insurance companies, all the mergers were done in secrecy. No one saw the merger document! Really sickening!!! |
windywendy:Current end year is March but from what I am hearing, the year start April 1 2007 and will run till December 2008!!! I hope it is a typo because that will be madness. Mr. Risky:with small money, would rather buid up buying PO's before opening account with any trader!!! Now City Code takes excellent in uselessness. Never used them, but had people that use them and I just laughed!!! You can never get your status position from them. They don't know what they've sold or not sold. The funny part is that they have branches all over especially in the Niger Delta. They are apparently a good company but cannot touch them with a one foot pole!!! Well for those just starting CICO, well, you will learn that the first thing that makes money for you is your broker!!!! Just watch as your BUY and SELL orders are not executed when due because when you wnat to BUY they tell you the share is on BID so they cannot find a seller and when you want to SELL it is on offer so no BUYER!!! Then you go see spreadsheet money disappear. This is worse if you speculate on stocks that you don't just wnat to OWN loma:I hope the mugus are not mistaking Chevron oil plc with the upstream sector!!!! Na petrol station this one be OOOO ty_ademolu:Not on my shopping list. Yes mortgage sector is good but the margin is small and teh gestation period is too long for the Nigerian environment. Solid company but does not fit my investment plan. Left only 5,000 units there to enable me get annual reports and monitor the company. |
LondonCool:Sent you an e-mail. Kindly respond and let us see. |
IBTC is changing its financial end to December to agree with the Standard Bank group and CBN directive. Will take affect from April 1 2007!!!! So no declaration till this time next year from IBTC!!!!!!!! Na 21 months result dem go declare windywendy:Big madam, nothing on Negris yet!!! they are still far from doing the PP. |
Mr. Risky:Youself!!! How can you go for all this kind of brokers. City Code One of the oldest around still stuck in old way of doing things!!! Not sure they have a functional e-mail self (not yahoo OO) |
RoughCut:Not sure anyone is buying!!! Some brokers warehouse the shares and sold at a premium to their clients. So right now, those shares are being crossed to those clients. That's why those charts get it wrong sometimes in Nigeria. They already assume a perfect market which is a NO NO!!! the kind underhand deals that we do is serious!!! It is more like the more you look the less you see!!! |
RoughCut:Not sure anyone is buying!!! Some brokers warehouse the shares and sold at a premium to their clients. So right now, those shares are being crossed to those clients. That's why those charts get it wrong sometimes in Nigeria. They already assume a perfect market which is a NO NO!!! the kind underhand deals that we do is serious!!! It is more like the more you look the less you see!!! |
Rhemagirl:Cheapest as per what? I think ACEN INS was acquired by another insurance company |
@ all Me no own any Big Treat. na only Pumping dey scare people that are interested in waiting for 114 years to get their money. Well there are brokers and there are brokers. One got my OandO for me but the other one was speaking grammar. Telling me that OandO is on BID. So na stocks on offer he wanted me to buy ? So if your broker got OandO for you this past two days, dash am something OOO. The thing no easy for floor. You must be a 'jaguda' broker to get some. So if you are running after a moving train, make sure that your broker na the type that can jump into a moving molue and please have a price and date limit!!!! Or else, na for maximum price you go get your trade alert after like one month so beware.Well, Nigerian German has reached my first exit price. So the one bought at 4.00 had to go. The one bought at 12.00 must stay to cross the 30.00 mark well well. BTW, Nigerian German and UNIC are related. na husband and wife dem be!!! On Universal Insurance, na by default I get am. Bought @ .95k with a loan @ 18% interest. Add another 2% selling Charge that means anithing above 1.20 is a profit for me. So at the first opportunity, na to offload with anger!!!! I don't associate with those kind of people. Listing 16bn shares ![]() How dem go feed the large mouth?If you hold a stock without fundamentals, make sure that your broker na real agbero if not you go dey watch your profit dey go daily and you no go fit do anything.!!!!! |
crazyT:I stopped reading when I got to the bolded portions!!! Too many errors to even bother |
pumping777:Your bad belle pass be careful!!!!! ![]() Na result dem release wetin concern you with forward PE!!!! Can't you see the fantastic result with PAT growing by 40%? Why did you now add your own forward PE wey dem no announce. Abeg, stop am OOOO. |
@upward, me no dey look chart but can tell you that DSR is one of the best companies out there Medium to LONG TERM. na the quarterly dividend dey hold am down. Would like to get @ 40.00 though!!! that one go be KILL pumping777:Pumping you wicked oooooo!!!! Did Big Treat publish their forward PE. Well, a forward PE of 114x is not bad. This na NSE!!! Once you can find a bigger MUGU to sell stocks to no wahala!!! BIG TREAT having bigger capitalisation than UACN na the joke of the century!!! |
RoughCut:I think anything above 50,000 units got 90% allocation!!! Not as bad as Dangote flour. Note also that more units were offered for DSR. Additionally the fowrard PE of DSR was much lower. DSR was offered at a discount but the flour was done at a premium. faketan:NEM already acquired/merged with Vigilante. Actually Vigilante people now dominate the board and management of NEM. Problem is no one yet knows the share exchange ratio. Everything about insurance companies are shrouded in secrecy as if na secret cult!!! NEM is currently rebranding but I find it difficult buying NEM at 5.00!!! same company that I was offered rights @ N0.55!!! Not complaining though but things don't just add up!!! Can't remember last time dividend was paid. |
RoughCut:There was returned money for DSR above 50,000 (or 100,000 units) I think. dangote Flour rode on that hype. |
@tiwantiwa, I don't look at any chart but me know that it is a candidate for the 10% that poeple here like! Not my kind of stock though |
RoughCut:Remember some people bought DSR at 56.00 before it now settles @ 33.00 before moving to the 40.00 range. water must always find its level. As per John Holt, very useless company. When C Eze was teh chairman they were just accummulating losses every year. made money from them capitalising on their swings. Sold but got to the registrar and was told that I still ahve some bumper holdings there. I think the registrar is wrong but asked my broker to investigate. |
RoughCut:The Dangote Flour price go still find im level. Just let the certificate be out!!! na those wey dey BUY now I pity. Even @ 15.00, me no fit BUY the offer. Dangote Sugar however is looking attractive. I expect it to take another leap soon. For those that do not mind buying any type of Stock, John Holt is available to be picked. So place order fast. Chellarams don cross 30.00 so make I go get Turkey for thanksgiving Who dey buy Universal Insurance ? na wa for my people OOO. Go dey expect the free fall of that one! |
hbrednic:Unable to fathom what people saw in that stock!!! Well, some people will make their money though. Saw someone willing to Sell Universal at 4.00 and Goldlink @ 3.50. A broker actually promised to give his clients who has return money from the Universal PP same shares @ 2.50!!!!! |
WAPCo, will stay around the 60.00 mark for a while. wait for the Q1 result before you enter. Nothing fantastic to be expected from them. They are still in debt, capacity not being expanded (there is a plan), gas supply not guaranteed. Except those issues are sorted out, WAPCo will not be able to deliver. WAPCo is a good and solid company but the terrian now is quite rough for it. |
blueband:Not sure if you remember the port congestion in the '70s. Importation is not an easy solution. Don't know where people get stories about artificial scarcity from. Ibeto is now allowed to import. He vowed to crash the price. You know what, the price being moving upward since then. People talk of monopoly. Check out the number of companies involved in the cement business!!! Problem with us is that we do not think deep. Cement is an energy demanding sector. With the current crude oil price, scarcity of LPFO, vandalisation of gas pipelines, energy cost is eating deep into the profits of those companies. It affected WAPCo, it is affecting Flour Mills, it will affect Dangote etc. One other problem is the transporation cost. With the deplorable state of our infrastructure, it will cost a fortune to move cement from the ports to the end user. No short cut here. We need to FIX the problem. |
damoche07:As per OandO the major opportunity here is the cash flow. OML 125 is an already producing field. For the other companies, from Exploration to production can take as long as 4 to 5 years. Also OandO boys are used to dealing with the Italians. Remember they bought AGIP and merged it with Unipetrol to form OandO. Also, they've recruited some peeps who should be able to point them in the right direction. They own some other oil blocs apart from this. For Transcorp, they still have a long way to go!!!! |
husu:I am still against Universal Insurance. I saw the prospectus and I let it pass. Listing 16bn shares with a PAT of less than N500m? Too many mouth to feed. Yes I got some units as a preferential investor via a group. Not our first choice but we made an investment that was about to turn awry so we pressurise the issuing house to give us something else so that's how I ended up with Universal Insurance. Still a BAD company anyway. For those that bought the PP, the allotment was terrible. There will be refund money because of the preferentiall alottment that they did to my group and others. aktopgun:OandO is not available. Definitely not at current price. My broker did not get any for me yesterday. gave orders for two brokers todat at market price. If no luck today, then I will cancel the order. Have some there already so no shaking. |
samstone4:Except you plan getting on the board of Orient, the issues surrounding it is enough to let it pass!!!! If na oil indutry you dey look for, go for OandO at current price. Just placed another order for more units today. |
frankiriri:The only saving grace is that for some of them, people don't have the certificates yet especially those insurance companies. Imagine listing 16bn shares for a company that cannot make a PAT of N500m!!!! What a valuation!!! By the time the capitalisation of Big Treat is more than UACN with all its Mr Biggs you know that there is a problem. For those holding illiquid stocks and stocks without fundamentals, well enjoy your loot but I hope you understand the risk. Part of the problems on this site this past few days is basically people making and accepting recommendations without understanding the associated risk and how to hedge against it. People also need to tally their investment style with their personal risk profile. You can be sure that once we get to the result season, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. WAPCo started it. Watch out for the others to follow. WAPCO's own will be minimal though. GTB and Flour MIlls are two stocks that I am anxiously waiting for their results vis aviz their valuation. |
The OandO story is straight forward. They beat AP to it. Now OandO is strategically positioned. If you are not on the train get in now. I expect a PO later. It's not easy to raise $625.7m That's the kind of deals that Transcorp should be doing. |
http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=104366 Oando Acquires 2 Shell Oil Blocks for $625m By Chika Amanze-Nwachuku, 02.26.2008 Indigenous oil marketing company, Oando Plc, has acquired Shell Nigeria’s 49.8 per cent stake in two oil blocks for $625.7 million. Oando emerged the preferred bidder of the two deepwater blocks offshore Nigeria Oil Mining Lease (OML) in an international competitive bidding process. The company made an immediate payment of 10 per cent of the sum last Friday while the balance will be paid when the transaction is finalised. An international newspaper had late last year reported that another Nigerian company, African Petroleum Plc, indicated interest in the oil blocks. The decision of Royal Dutch Shell to sell its stakes in the two blocks, THISDAY learnt, was sequel to its plan to reduce its business in the troubled Niger Delta region where the company currently loses about 200,000 barrels per day of production. The two stakes owned through Shell Nigeria Exploration and Production Co. Ltd are in deep water blocks OML-125 and OML-134, formerly known as OPL-211. Agip, a unit of Eni, owns the remaining 50.2 per cent in each block. Commenting on the transaction yesterday, Group Chief Executive, Oando, Mr. Wale Tinubu, said OML-125 currently produces 18,000 barrels a day of oil from the Abo field combined with near term production growth and high potential exploration acreage to complement Oando’s existing upst-ream position. Tinubu said OML-134 although still in exploration phase, has already recorded significant discoveries. “The consideration payable is US$625.7 million in cash which will be settled in two tranches. An immediate payment of 10 per cent was paid on Friday, 22nd February whilst the balance will be paid on completion. The consideration and any adjustments will be funded from both internal cash resources and from external financing. Standard Chartered, Standard Bank, BNP Paribas and Merrill Lynch are providing financing to Oando for this transaction. Standard Chartered Bank acted as financial advisors to the transaction. We are pleased to have emerged as the preferred bidder in this competitive international bid. This milestone underpins our preparedness and capability to develop a sizeable upstream portfolio,” he said. Commenting further, the Oando MD said: “We have been fortunate to be presented with the rare opportunity to acquire a balanced upstream portfolio in our home market in line with our stated principle to acquire proven, active and near term properties. Our ability to marshal substantial resources to win a bid of this magnitude further reinforces our status as sub-Saharan Africa’s leading integrated energy group. We are proud of this development and the positive impact on indigenous corporate Nigeria’s profile in the global oil and gas community.” A spokesman of Shell Nigeria, Mr. Precious Okolobo, confirmed last night that the deal received the nod of the Nigerian government and the waiver of pre-emption rights by the operator, Agip. “We can confirm that we have reached agreement with Oando Plc for the purchase of Shell's interest in these blocks [OMLs 125 and 134]. The deal is subject to approval by the Nigerian government and the waiver of pre-emption rights by the operator, Agip, and we cannot comment further,” Okolobo said. The oil major had late last year announced the planned restructuring of its Nigerian business to the effect that all the company’s affiliates will come under “one Shell structure”. In line with the restructuring exercise, Shell Group had also last year disclosed plans to sell its interests in the Nigerian offshore blocks in a move aimed at reducing its business in the troubled Niger Delta region. Until yesterday, Shell Nigeria neither confirmed the planned sale nor the reported plan by AP to purchase the oil blocks. However, reacting to alleged plans by Shell and other oil majors to divest from Nigeria, Paolo Scaroni, Chief Executive of Apip, a unit of Eni SPA, holders of the remaining 50.2 per cent, argued that the Niger Delta crisis was not enough reason for oil majors to leave the country. "The situation in Nigeria certainly isn't peaceful, but I don't think it is such as to push oil majors to leave," Scaroni had said. The planned reorganisation by Shell Nigeria, believed to be the first of its kind since the company commenced exploration activities in Nigeria over five decades ago, has been suspended reportedly on the directives of the Federal Government. |
frankiriri:For PP's, don't go through any broker. Go through the issuing houses or the underwritters. For the CHAMS placement, all those that went through any of the 4 issuing houses should not have a problem. When you go through a broker, he will collate and submit his returns at the end of the offer. Except your broker has block booked (warehouse some shares) by the time he is submitting his application to the issuing house, they will tell him that they've reach their limit hence he will have to return your money. That basically is the risk for those PP's. If you don't have a link with the issuing houses, don't just bother except you are sure that your broker has block booked certain shares. Now, it is this warehoused shares that you normally see being traded immediately shares are listed on NSE. The brokerage firms will start to cross the shares to their clients who applied through them. that's why some of those deals are purely imaginary!!! |
samstone4:None of those PP's fit into my investment philosophy so I am not even thinking of them. Not sure I am interested in those sectors of the economy. One other thing is that when you have a lot of PO's, it is a sign that the market is over valued and a correction is imminent. That is a general rule in the capital market. On Amakpe refinery it is better in tow major ways than Orient. Firstly the supply side is sorted out. They already know the 'grade' of crude to be processed. They know where to source the crude from. They can come up with a design that fit that description or crude specification. Secondly they can bypass the regulated market by processing for export. Since they are close to the Qua Iboe terminal, they can lean on already available infrastructure unlike Orient that is in the hinterland. You also expect that a lot of contractors and manpower are readily available close to Amakpe than to Orient. Hope this helps. As per the PP, I think the Amakpe PP was done a while ago. That said, the margin on refinery business is not that big so I am not too keen. I invest in areas where there is a monopoly or where the margins are crazy!!! |
RoughCut:Yes Universal listed 16b shares but who are the owners of those 16bn? Who are those trading? Some brokerage house basically warehouse the shares and no selling until after N3.00. Problem with it is that most of the buyers are going to DUMP thus causing a free fall!!!! With 16bn shares, once the certificates etc are out, it is very difficult to manipulate the price. Those insurance guys are just clueless!!! Hoa many banks have up to 16bn listed shares? flakyy:Hope you also know that the mouth to be fed has also increased!!!!! |
aktopgun:Hope sey you get am BUY sha. Na huge volume was traded today!!!! I think the thing land for CSCS just on Friday so trading should be easier now and the price may stabilised. As the IPO vaccines no dey my body yet, I am still waiting for the listing of my Investment and Allied Assurance. Na that one be the killer!!!! RoughCut:Will wait for the prospectus of NEGRIS. Detailed someone already to be harassing one of the directors. No slacking for that one. Conering Solar Turbine market alone is enough to sustain them. |
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One of the oldest around still stuck in old way of doing things!!! Not sure they have a functional e-mail self (not yahoo OO)
the highest insult of the century.