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SmartPolician:
Oga, while I do not support Trump's decision to withdraw from the WHO, you are being selfish.

That's ironic. You are supporting someone that promotes me and my country first as being selfless, but calling someone that support helping WHO and other poor countries selfish.

I don't think the WHO has particularly done anything special for the US other than the US contributing significantly to its funding.

USA, UK, China and most of the industrialised world does not need the help of WHO, it's poor countries like Togo, Bangladesh, Nicaragua, etc that WHO helps in saving million of lives.

Over the years, China has been challenging the US as an emerging world's power, it's time for the East to start shouldering some of the responsibilities that the US used to carry.

Does it then make sense for US to surrender to its world power status to China. You think China cannot afford the $400 million contributions to WHO to take absolute control if it further's their interests. This is a China that is ready to give Africa billions of dollars to take control of the continent.

The US and her citizens have really tried for our world, yet many people hate them for no reason. Bill Gates, for instance, is the highest individual contributor to the WHO, with a contribution bigger than those of 10 African countries combined.

Who has argued that the US have not tried for the world?
African countries contribute little to WHO because they are dead poor. They have non existent public health care services. WHO is the main reason why diseases like polio, meningitis, measles had not decimated your African brothers. Who is solely responsible for controlling and managing the treatment of AIDS in Africa.

On the other hand, I like presidents like this: people who are bold enough to break away from the norms - something I expected from the tall slowpoke in Aso Rock.

You also want us to walk away from regional and global bodies to prove Nigeria is strong abi? You want Buhari to withdraw from ECOWAS to show strength.

If all countries adapt Trump's approach, and put it's country first in all issues despite the concern of others, we will slip into WW3 very fast. These world bodies had succeeded in giving us the longest period of relative peace in world history.

If the so-called beneficiaries of the WHO cannot man up to their responsibility, they should cease to exist.

No problem to the developed world. It's your cousins, brothers, sisters and tribesmen back home that will start dying of simple diseases like Measles, Small pox, malaria, cholera, etc.

bluefilm:
Easier said than done.

Ask yourself this: USA and the rest of the world, who needs each other more?

Can you really do without America?

Just some two or three weeks back, Germany as powerful as they are said to be, was complaining that America was pulling some of her forces out of Europe.

America no be your mate o, guy!

Just one century ago, Germany was the world superpower. It took the combined effort of USA, Britain and it's colonies, USSR and a defeated France to bring Germany down. USA can't take on the whole world and hope to win.

The USA needs the world more than the world need USA. Some small countries had bullshited the USA and survived. Libya thrived without the USA for decades until they brought Gaddafi and Libya down. Iran thrived for decades without USA and now, they are blackmailing the rest of the world not to do business with Iran.

If all the world stop using the dollar as the international currency of trade, the US economy will crash overnight.

USA greatness was because of the respect and trust the whole world gave to them.

kaka22:
Stupidity at its peak. He accused China of influencing WHO. He is planning to withdraw US' membership of WHO which will give China more influence

Withdrawing from WHO is not enough. Trump should withdraw also from UN, NATO, organization of american states, in fact all other international organizations, and then build a wall not just on the Mexican border, but also on the Canadian border. Infact Trump should surround the US with a wall.

fieryy:
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Oh do me favour and shut up. Read again and understand

You also do me a favour and explain how black on black violence, Latino on Latino violence and even family on family violence has anything to do with centuries old systemic racism and injustice against blacks in America.

fieryy:
At this point, this is just ridiculous. I wonder if you'd have mentioned how white people kill other white people, if George Floyd had been white.

People of other races have bombed schools, shot people in clubs, murdered other people and do all the stuff humans beings do, without their actions being attributed to a whole group of people. It's always 'Tom killed a man' and never 'Tom killed a man, therefore those white people are this and that'

If George Floyd was white and murdered in such a brutal way and people started protesting, none and I repeat none of you here will come up with the bullsh*t of white people killing each other everyday, bombing schools as well, raping kids etc. None!

Are you people simply dense or deaf, dumb and blind. We have said it again and again, that the anger was not just about Floyd's murder, but decades or centuries of systemic racism and injustice against blacks.

If George Floyd was white, all the murders would be attested and prosecuted within 48 hours. The justice system would not need a protest to catch and punish the criminals.

Igbochief001:
Shut up ..igbos tried to rescue yorubas from fulanis who killed your leader and taken over your region to give u independent
Like we did to mid West

Igbos don turn to Volton defender of the universe?

kingzizzy:
The Biafran war was always about those who were fighting to be free of Northern domination and those who were fighting to eternal slaves of the North

Unfortunately for Biafra, the eternal slaves were far more in number

That's the problem with you people. You cannot be fighting to free slaves that did not ask you to fight for them. That's in itself is slavery and not freedom.

overall90:
you are very free to wallow in your ignorance.

And you are free to wallow in your knowledge.

Igbochief001:
Oga biafra gave mid West independent right ?
The plan was to free the west from Fulani and hand it over to the yorubas

We beg una to free us? How can plan you to free us without our consent or corporation? Did the mid west come to Ojukwu and beg him to free them?

salford1:
Why cutting cooperate taxes? Voodoo trickle down economics.
When cooperate tax are cut, it doesn't go down to the people. The executives, management and employees only get bigger bonus and increased wages. Anyone that has worked in any cooperation that is worth is salt knows that.
Anyways, those cooperations donate towards campaigns of parties with policies that favours them. Irrespective of whether the policies benefits the general society or not.

Anyone that is not a corporate hawk or lost inside Trump's azz, will understand that cutting corporate tax favours only the rich and political parties that gets donations from corporations.
Besides, the extra cash gained from the low corporate tax is not reinvested into the business, but used to buy the company's shares, thereby raising the stock prices and share prices in general. It's all audio economic growth.

overall90:
stop talking rubbish.
Nigeria of 1967 is not the same as Nigeria of 2020.
in your warped thinking,Biafra of 1967 is just the 5 south eastern states of today.smh

In your thinking, Biafra of 1967 included the former Mid West and Ore?

Biafra failed the day they invaded other regions. It changed their aims from secession to conquest and colonisation.

In addition
It's the same reason Biafra failed today. The Biafrans can't get their eyes off the old mid west. they are even eying Benue join.

ezenwajosh:
Are you a biafran?

Who is a Biafran?

ezenwajosh:
Don't worry about our way of getting secession ....we got it covered....what worked for others might not work for another.... We love the way we going about it.... Nigeria is not a normal country.... It's not even a country for such political process....

Abeg yarn me, which way are you going about it?

ezenwajosh:
We have except we have choose to stop fueling Nigeria unity


We have refused to stop giving Nigeria life with our sweat


We have choose to option out of nigeria

That my stand as igbo youth... I know many igbo youths who are sharing my vision too

Why not you and your many igbo youths form a pressure group to pressure your state and national assembly members to demand for secession? In the alternative you can form or join a political party to promote your secession agenda.

Secession can only be achieved by two means - through a political process or through war, not by cursing and abusing Nigerians and other tribes.

UdechiHD:
Some of you are shameless. If we begin to list Yorubas that were handed top positions under GEJ, many of you will run with your tails. Even under GEJ Igbos had fewer positions as compared to under Yaradua, yet we didn’t destabilize his government. However, you Yoruba with top military and ministerial positions never allowed him breathe. Even when GEJ allotted the Speakership position to you guys (in continuation of Patricia Etteh and Dimeji Bankole) we Igbos didn’t protest against it. By right, we were supposed to speak up and dispel your agenda, after all your brother Obasanjo just left the Presidential seat and despite our support for his Presidency, he left us out of the top 4 key positions and pick your people. We didn’t complain, even when GEJ picked an Akande for speakership, we minded our business. But instead of you to support the Lady, you went ahead to sell that post to Tambuwal.

I repeat, if we bring up Yoruba positions under Yar’adua/Jonathan down to Jonathan, many innocent Yoruba’s hoodwinked by you Tinubu clowns would be shocked.

In which type of government does a president allot or pick the head of the legislature? Please explain. Buhari then must have alloted the senate president to Bukola Saraki.

We are not talking about Yaradua presidency. The Yorubas never complained of marginalization under Yar’adua presidency. It was under Jonathan, that the Yorubas complained about marginalisation in political appointments. When Jonathan and his supporters dismissed their complaints, the Yorubas went back to the drawing board to plot his defeat.

Now let's compare Jonathan's appointments and Buhari's appointments so we can compare and contrast which tribe was or is marginalized.

Dedetwo:
Then they must address the disadvantage of being “led” by selfish, greedy and self-centered political elite masquerading as political and social-cultural leaders who are the first to shoot down their own. Many Igbo leaders are fine men and women. But there are too many

The above did not come across to you as a lamentation from a man who failed election and did register a bleep on the political radar. He was not financially situated to play the game and his professorial gambit did not fancy the south eastern governors to bank roll his campaign billings.

You might be right. Maybe he was looking for some political patronage or largesse after his political adventure. He could not have hoped to win when even bigger parties like apga had no chance.

Igbochief001:
2)Igbo have taken on and made progress , with the marginalization we have go out and invested in every Nigeria state ...but does that mean when we are wronged we should not complain ?

My grouse with you guys is you guys waste too much energy complaining without doing much about it. I am talking about igbo leaders taking practical steps to develop the igbo nation.

Didn't yorubas match on the street for abiola issue ? Why the hypocrisy , didn't Niger Delta militant bomb to protest ? ....why are igbos one seen as different ?

Did you hear Yoruba people complain? They took practical steps (many risked their lives and property). They brought the Government to a stand still and made the Abacha government personal non grata in the international community. Ironically igbos showed their support for Abacha with a 2 million man match.

3) $22 billion from loan that was taken from China ....what is the igbo land contribution ? We contribute oil and gas , we contribute trade and import duty , we contribute human resources ...better than north that got a bulk of that loan

If u don't see anything wrong in the distribution of that loan u are a be lier and evil

How much in terms of raw dollars do the south east contribute to to national purse, and how much do they take out? The $22 billion would mostly be paid from oil and gas revenue, whicv over 80% comes from the Niger Delta.
Mind you, I do not support marginalisation of the igbos by this Buhari administration. What I am saying is that the igbos should get together and pursue a precise developmental agenda.

4) name the assistance federal government have given to airpeace ? Name one ...they are forced to use airpeace because no other option ....
Oga name one thing Nigerian government has done for airpeace ...I have read the report over and over again Bros ...there is no excuse ...enugu government have promised to build the army barrack

The FG gave airpeace license to operate in Nigeria.
The FG gave airpeace it's license to fly to five countries comprising China, South Africa, United States (Atlanta), United Arab Emirates and India.
If the FG truly wants to stifle airpeace, it would not grant it licences to use its fly to other countries under bilateral aviation agreements.

Dealing with the military is somehow complex. The Military hierarchy is not usually favourably disposed to changing bases. There is a case I am involved with here in Lagos concerning over 150 Hectares of land seized by the army since the 70s. The case had gone to court. The families involved has used Obas, a former president and other influential people to beg the army. The case has been on for 20 years.

Why can't the governor provide another land for airpeace to build it's aviation facilities, what makes this particular site so special?

5) when u have socialist economic policy in Nigeria how do u want igbos to succeed ....u want to strangle south east and expect igbos to remain their

What do you mean we have socialist economic policy? I thought we are operating full capitalism. Obasanjo privatised most of Nigeria's assets, Jonathan privatised NEPA.

Igbos as individuals are succeeding, the problem is collectively as a group.

6) south south we have supported their move for resource control , we supported Jonathan

South West ..we supported obj , we support makinde and fayose and the rest ..are they not yoruba

North we have voted north more than any other regions ...what else should the Igbo mam do ...name it

As I said earlier that's political interests

Esseite:
All security heads none SE
Least to almost none FG infrastructure in SE
$22bn loan - SE excluded
Train track- SE excluded
Seaport/Dryport- SE excluded
Second niger bridge - to be tolled
Appointments - SE 5%
Executive hierarchy- SE none
Legislative hierarchy- SE Chief whip.

What is Victim mentality again?

You guys do not seem to understand or comprehend what prof Mogbolu is talking about, maybe because he is a professor and he is talking to less educated masses.

Here is his quote once again;

“Nigerian Igbo complain about political “marginalization”. While true because of the civil war, and while Nigeria needs “a new grand bargain” b/w it’s ethnic nationalities, the Igbos themselves have harmed themselves. They must first shed victim mentality.

Then they must address the disadvantage of being “led” by selfish, greedy and self-centered political elite masquerading as political and social-cultural leaders who are the first to shoot down their own. Many Igbo leaders are fine men and women. But there are too many

From the parts of the quote I highlighted, you should see that Mogbolu is attacking Igbo Politicians
You have igbo politicians in the National Assembly, and the national assembly is the purse of the nation. Why did the igbo politicians in the national assembly agree to a budget without major projects in the south east? Maybe they are more interested in constituency projects or political correctness.

About the train track, who would you blame for excluding the south east? The minister of transport is Igbo and the funds also has to be approved by the national assembly. No igbo politician had complained openly on these issues.

About appointments, yes we all agree that Buhari is Nepotic, but that's just in the last 6 years. The previous 6 years had igbos in prominent positions in government, how did they help Igboland?

Igbochief001:
U call yourselves an igbo man but use "they " on your people ....it shows how much u respect the Igbo nation

He never denied he is an Igbo man.

Igbos should stop crying marginalization when the marginalization is on going

He never denied the marginalization going on. He said igbos should do take action to progress instead of always crying marginalization.

$22 billion was taken ...not a cent would be spent on Igbo land

$22 billion taken from where? What's the total contributions to the national purse from Igboland? Less that 10 igbo businessmen are worth more than $22 billion, that's apart from the billions of dollars the states received yearly from the FG. If igbos politicians and individuals shed their greed (and stop playing the victim), igbo people have the resources to convert Igboland to a developed region.

Air peace has been begging for land to build aviation hub in enugu but federal government has refused ...even when enugu government has offered to replace the land two times over

This is the same victim mentality Professor was complaining about. Upon all the assistant the FG had given to air peace down the years, you are now complaining that the FG is bad because it refused to hand over it's land, which belongs to the Nigerian Airforce, to air peace.

Read this report on the enugu airport and airpeace to discover the issues involved.

The minister of state for aviation, Senator Hadi Sirika, visited Enugu State last month. He had described the Enugu International Airport as “not befitting of the status that it has attained” and promised to “do the best we can to allow all international airlines apart from Ethiopian Airlines to operate out of Enugu”.

I recall reading the minister outlining a list of challenges that could hamper that lofty dream. One of the cited infrastructural challenge that could hinder the hopes of making Enugu Airport a full fledged international airport was the absence of approach lights at both end of the runway.

It was understood that locals in the community had frustrated attempts by contractors engaged by the Federal Airports Authority of Nigeria (FAAN) to instal this facility, the absence of which makes nighttime landing and takeoff impossible. Another challenging issue was the presence of two communication masts owned by the Nigeria Television Authority (NTA) and the Enugu State Broadcasting Service (ESBS) obstructing aircrafts’ flight path on takeoff.


The indigenous airline was on March 31, 2016, granted the right to fly to five countries comprising China, South Africa, United States (Atlanta), United Arab Emirates and India.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thecable.ng/fg-grant-ugwuanyis-request-air-peace-maintenance-facility-enugu-airport/amp

Igbos absolutely have zero victim mentality , someone with victim mentality won't go to the north and build , someone with victim mentality won't go back to South south and build ... someone with victim mentality won't go back to South West and build .... someone with victim mentality won't get back on their feat after the war like igbos ...

Irrelevant and off-point. Igbos leaving their homes and migrating to other regions and indeed other countries all over the world has nothing to do with the victim mentality Professor Mogbolu was talking about. There are also millions of igbos building structures in the UK, US, UAE, Europe, etc. If igbos invest half of what they invest all over the world in their homeland, Igboland would have become Dubai by now.

In politics ....there is nothing igbos haven't done to build bridge and trust , igbos have voted south South , south west , north many time ...

Please list what igbos have done to build bridge and trust with the south South , south west , Middle belt, north? Instead, other Nigerians have been receiving insults and scorn from igbos (not elites). Politics is a game of interests, and besides igbos generally don't come out to vote. So relevance electorally is not as important as it should be.

basilico:
. In it, the FBI acknowledged that only a
“small number” of more than 49,000
“potentially relevant” emails found on
Weiner’s laptop had been forwarded from
Clinton deputy Huma Abedin to Weiner, her
husband, not hundreds or thousands as
Comey had stated. The FBI said just two of
those messages contained classified
information

2 mails out of over 49000, forwarded by a Clinton's deputy to her husband ( most probably without her knowledge) is the highest crime of the century to persecute Hillary Clinton for?
Oya order Bill Bar to commence prosecution.

Now, you guys say Trump could be best buddies to Epstein for 15 years without being aware he is a paedophile or traffics in young girls, but you expect Clinton to know the character of the husbands (and wives) of all her employers and aids.

basilico:
CNN had Hillary at 99% chance of winning on election day.

Let's have links please.

CNN polls fluctuated between 2% lead by Clinton around June to 12% around August to just 5% two weeks to elections.

Clinton leads by 5 heading in to final two weeks
By Jennifer Agiesta, CNN Polling Tue October 25, 2016
Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump by 5 points as the presidential campaign heads into its final two weeks, with the Democratic nominee's support just shy of the 50% mark, according to a new CNN/ORC poll.

Among likely voters, Clinton tops Trump 49% to 44%, with just 3% backing Libertarian Gary Johnson and 2% behind Green Party nominee Jill Stein.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/10/24/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-presidential-polls/index.html

OjoMadiba:
The poll was even worse in 2016, what was the outcome? Why should I trust it again?

The poll was not completely wrong. It gave the total votes to Clinton, which she did win by about 5 million. Even though the electoral collage votes were off, many of the states polls were still within the margin of error of between 4 and 8%. Polls are not expected to be 100% accurate, because only a very small number of sample size. The small sample size is simply extrapolated on the general population. Some polls in 2016 gave the elections to Trump.

In all the current polls Biden is leading Trump with more points than the margin of error. Trump's support based has not grown beyond 2016 levels, in fact it's shrinking on a daily basis with many Republicans openly campaigning against trump. So, how do you expect him to equal his 2016 votes, not to talk of beating it.

OjoMadiba:
President Trump will be re-elected again in November. Don't Trust the mainstream media.

So which media should we trust - Fox news and Breitbart? Even Fox news has Biden ahead of Trump in its polls.
Form your own media outfit and poll the elections to Trump.

budaatum:
Pass it on!

This is just a tip of the iceberg, many other anti -Trump groups would arise before the November elections. Most sane Americans are appalled by the way Trump is leading the once revered and respects USA. A second Trump tenure would completely destroy the US (and Trump and his MAGA cult would somehow blame the liberals, Democrats, deepstate, Obama as usual).

We are living in interesting times indeed.

basilico:
Literacy deficiency.
Epstein liked beautiful women just like Trump. T liked them young. Nowhere in my understanding os Trump saying he liked them young.

Na wa o! Arguing with trumptards is like arguing with fire and water. Garetz just staked his life that in the 15 years of friendship with Epstein, Trump had no idea he was a paedophile, and de-friended him the second he found out; Meanwhile this one is saying Trump knew Epstein (not him) liked the girls younger.

garetz:
So how did you jump from what you just highlighted to Trump said he likes under age girls? Why must you always lie? Is Need Nwoko the husband of Regina Daniels a pedophile because he likes a younger woman? People like you would have gone to town to spread lies about him if he had told you he likes a younger woman. Stop lying wirinet!! You won't die if you don't lie.

You need to learn proper English instead of MAGA English. In English how will you qualify the comparative adjective young. You have young, younger youngest. Young already relates to youth, inexperienced and fresh, youngest (in the contex Trump was talking about) therefore mean babies and very little children. So, Trump saying he likes them on the younger side, a normal person should know the age range.

garetz:
We are not as ignorant as you liberals are, neither do we are full of lies like you. When we talk, we talk facts!!!

https://www.the-sun.com/news/618186/donald-trump-banned-jeffrey-epstein-mar-a-lago-underage-girl/

Where is your facts? Trump had been friends with Jeffery Epstein for 15 years and only found out he was a paedophile after the fell out over a palm beach auction.

garetz:
You have come again with your lies, when did Trump admit liking under age girls like Epstein? What is it with you liberals and your pathetic lies? You can't even lie smartly, just telling stupid kindergarten lies. Trump has never denied knowing Epstein, they knew each other but Trump banned him when he discovered he was a love-vendor.

Interpret Trump's quote in MAGA language.
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. ”

basilico:
They were once friends. Trump banned him from his clubs after he hit on a young girl.

Bill was in Lolita express 27 times. some to orgy island.

I was thinking you guys will run out of stupid excuses, bit of was wrong, the excuses start going going from stupid to ridiculous.

This was Trump's quote in early 2000 when Epstein was his best buddy;
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. ”

Give better excuse for that Trump quote.
Trump banned him from his clubs after he hit on a young girl my foot. So all those years Trump and Epstein were best buddies holding parties up and down including in Mar a largo, Epstein was hiding his abuse of underage girls from Trump? Or that he did not love-vendor underage girls to Trump.

For your information Trump and Epstein fell out over a property deal they were both interested in, and not some abuse of underage girls shit.
- [url=https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.palmbeachpost.com/news/20190802/palm-beach-estate-bankruptcy-auction-pitted-trump-epstein%3ftemplate=ampart]Palm Beach estate bankruptcy auction pitted Trump, Epstein[/url]

basilico:
The US wants to question the heir to Guiness .
They also want to question Prince Andrew.

Trump is of law and order. Democrats allowed Epstein to walk with a single charge of soliciting . Jailed him for 13 months, housed him in the private wing of the correctional And allowed hom 12 hours to go to his office where he continued to meet underage girls. He was even allowed female. visitors in his prison private wing.

Trump wants justice for his victims. Rats know if Maxwell sings Many of their big donors are going down. People like Woody Allen, Bill Clinton, etc who visited his orgy island for God knows what sick rituals . These top shots are heavily Democratic and by extension the media. Expect twitter bots,media, liberals try as much as possible to insinuate Trump is like that Arkancide enforcer.

Are you serious? Trump himself that admitted liking underage like Epstein?

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” - Donald Trump, 2002

Here is a report of Trump and Epstein parting together with girls all around, with video evidence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad1ysX2iLmA

What's your stupid excuses this time? The video was videoshopped or it was taken out of context?

Qstorm:
Most republican politicians have proven to be no better than their democrat counterparts. Spineless RINO cowards!
With Trump we have no doubt where his loyalty is, his love for our country is not in doubt. He is fighting to save our country and God is with him.

Out of the nearly 330 million Americans, only Trump and his racist white, sexist and homophobic supporters love the country. All others are deepstate that want to destroy America.

Schizophrenia is characterised by thoughts or experiences that seem out of touch with reality.