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Christianity Etc › Re: Bishop Oyedepo: If You Don’t Pay Your Tithe You Are Under A Financial Curse by wirinet(m):
Nooil:
Just like adulterers think everyone is like them, people who probably paid tithe due to expectations and got disappointed(and became bitter) think everyone is like them.
I have never paid tithe in my life. I was raised an Anglican as a child. Tithe was never part of the Anglican doctrine.

Uncle, not everyone is like you. Some of us are noble at heart. And yes, God will bless us tithers abundantly. Because no word goes out of His mouth and returns void.
And you think God does not also bless us non tithers abundantly? Out of the 100 richest men in the world, I doubt you will find 1 tither.

Tithe has never been tied to salvation. I wonder where you guys get your satanic thoughts. You must be a member of the church of satan to have such thoughts. You had better repent.
Then what is this thread all about?

Bishop Oyedepo Says "God Never Opens Of Heaven On Non-Tithers"

Pastor Adeboye says, “Anyone who is not paying his tithe is not going to heaven. Full stop.”
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 10:29pm On Jul 18, 2020
OLAADEGBU:
How will I be able to cater for them when you've murdered them? Are you suggesting that I should apply medicine after death? undecided
You are still beating around the bush. There are still millions of unwanted babies with some abandoned ones, even near you. How many abandoned babies or children have you sheltered feed or clothed in your life? As someone who unwanted pregnancies matters to a lot.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 10:09pm On Jul 18, 2020
OLAADEGBU:
Do they matter to you? undecided
If unwanted pregnancies matter so much to you, then how many unwanted babies have you catered for? How many have you given food, clothings and shelter?
Christianity Etc › Re: Bishop Oyedepo: If You Don’t Pay Your Tithe You Are Under A Financial Curse by wirinet(m):
Nooil:
Those Bible quotes are all related to tithes, addressing both the priests and the people. And yes, Malachi 3 was for the priests stealing the tithes and offering the people brought to God.

Moreover, even priests pay tithe. You can see it referenced in the last chapter I wrote.

"Even Levi, who receives tithes, paid tithes"

I'm not here to argue about what a pastor said or not. I'm here to let you guys know that it is in the right order to pay tithes.

Now read 1 Corin 16:1-2 and tell me your thoughts.

Please, it's the last time I'm replying any mentions.
False doctrine. I know you have been conditioned to believe your salvation is tied to tithes. So I don't expect you to see reason concerning it.

Christ did not come to preach tithes, he never required anyone's tithes, he never taught his disciples to preach tithes.

Christianity is about charity, free giving and empathy for the poor and under privileged. It's not bet9ja where wager money in expectations of a jackpot. It only makes the house (bet9ja or pastor/church ) richer, while the people get poor, with some getting addicted to the wagering itself.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 7:51pm On Jul 18, 2020
SonofLincoln:
Bunch of the Trump lackeys here are just like Trump in their conning way. One of the guys licking trump's rear try to scam me and Kops and Cutie King called him out. You wonder why they are in love with Don the Con.
Birds of the same feather flock together. It's only con men that can worship a known con man like Trump. He is the role model of not just con men, but also racists, tribalism and cheats.
Christianity Etc › Re: Bishop Oyedepo: If You Don’t Pay Your Tithe You Are Under A Financial Curse by wirinet(m): 7:41pm On Jul 18, 2020
Nooil:
Genesis 28:20-22
Then Jacob made a vow, saying, “If God will be with me, and keep me in this way that I am going, and give me bread to eat and clothing to put on, so that I come back to my father’s house in peace, then the LORD shall be my God. And this stone which I have set as a pillar shall be God’s house, and of all that You give me I will surely give a tenth to You.”
He was made a personal vow, he was not threatened with hell and curses to pay tithes.
Genesis 14:18-20
Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was the priest of God Most High. And he blessed him and said:
"Blessed be Abram of God Most High,
Possessor of heaven and earth; And blessed be God Most High,
Who has delivered your enemies into your hand." And he gave him a tithe of all.
Abraham paid the tithe during the meal when he was hosted by Melchizedek. He paid tithes because God delivered his enemies into his hand. Abraham did not pay tithes for life.
Matthew 23:23
"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.
Keyword, weightier matters. According to Christ Justice, Mercy and faith are more important than tithe. You guys have been brainwashed to believe that the most important thing in Christianity is tithes, and your salvation lies in tithes. A

Numbers 18:21
“Behold, I have given the children of Levi all the tithes in Israel as an inheritance in return for the work which they perform, the work of the tabernacle of meeting.
Are Nigerian pastors children of Levi? Is the tribe of Levi even still in existence?

Psalm 24:1
The earth is the LORD’s, and all its fullness,
The world and those who dwell therein.
What has this got to do with tithes.

Psalm 50:12
“If I were hungry, I would not tell you;
For the world is Mine, and all its fullness.
God is hungry and requires your tithe to eat? I don't understand.

Haggai 2:8
‘The silver is Mine, and the gold is Mine,’ says the LORD of hosts.
How does this relate to tithes by threats

Malachi 3:8-12
"Will a man rob God?
Yet you have robbed Me!
But you say,
"In what way have we robbed You?"
In tithes and offerings.
You are cursed with a curse,
For you have robbed Me,
Even this whole nation.
Bring all the tithes into the storehouse,
That there may be food in My house,
And try Me now in this,"
Says the LORD of hosts,
"If I will not open for you the windows of heaven
And pour out for you such blessing
That there will not be room enough to receive it.
'And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes,
So that he will not destroy the fruit of your ground,
Nor shall the vine fail to bear fruit for you in the field,'
Says the LORD of hosts;
And all nations will call you blessed,
For you will be a delightful land,”
Says the LORD of hosts.
Why not start from Malachi 2 instead of reading Malachi 3 in isolation? The instruction of Malachi was for priests and not for everybody.

MALACHI 2
And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you.

2 If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name, saith the Lord of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to heart.

3 Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts; and one shall take you away with it.

4 And ye shall know that I have sent this commandment unto you, that my covenant might be with Levi, saith the Lord of hosts.

5 My covenant was with him of life and peace; and I gave them to him for the fear wherewith he feared me, and was afraid before my name.

6 The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not found in his lips: he walked with me in peace and equity, and did turn many away from iniquity.

7 For the priest's lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth: for he is the messenger of the Lord of hosts.

8 But ye are departed out of the way; ye have caused many to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted the covenant of Levi, saith the Lord of hosts.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 2:42pm On Jul 18, 2020
basilico:
Mueller investigation did not find any collusion between Trump campaigns. Its all over the net.

Those indicted had their charges stemming from process crimes.

Papadopoulos was in for lying to FBI over the date he met Mifsud, the FBI spy planted by Comey and Brennan

Paul Cohen indictment over tax
Manafort over wire fraud and tax
Flynn over perjury trap by FBI

some Russians supposedly over hacking. They will never appear in a courtroom

Stone over lying to Congress

None of the above had any connection to Russia collusion.

They were stoopis. The likes of comey, mccabe , Jack Dorset can now be punished for lying to congress.
Russian Agent Maria Butina Sentenced To 18 Months Following Guilty Plea

A Russian woman who plotted to infiltrate conservative political circles and open back channel lines of communication as part of an unofficial influence campaign was sentenced to 18 months in prison on Friday.

Maria Butina pleaded guilty in December to one count of conspiracy to act as a Russian agent in the U.S. without registering with the Justice Department. She faced up to five years in prison.
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/26/716799929/russian-agent-maria-butina-to-be-sentenced-in-federal-court-on-friday
12 Russian Agents Indicted in Mueller Investigation
WASHINGTON — The special counsel investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election issued an indictment of 12 Russian intelligence officers on Friday in the hacking of the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton presidential campaign. The indictment came only three days before President Trump was planning to meet with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia in Helsinki, Finland.

The 29-page indictment is the most detailed accusation by the American government to date of the Russian government’s interference in the 2016 election, and it includes a litany of brazen Russian subterfuge operations meant to foment chaos in the months before Election Day.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/us/politics/mueller-indictment-russian-intelligence-hacking.amp.html
Politics › Re: What Happened When Goodluck Jonathan Got To Mali On A Rescue Mission ( Video) by wirinet(m): 8:39am On Jul 18, 2020
NEWACADEMY:
But his connection on the continent is as solid as a rock
Who are his personal friends on the continent?
Politics › Re: What Happened When Goodluck Jonathan Got To Mali On A Rescue Mission ( Video) by wirinet(m): 8:38am On Jul 18, 2020
NEWACADEMY:
I totally disagree. Jonathan had a great relationship with the West but lost it towards the end of his tenure
Which of the western nations did he have great relationship with? - UK, USA, Canada, Germany, France?

Agreed GEJ had a lot of goodwill from Nigerians and the world, just before and immediately after the 2011, but quickly lost it due to allegations of chronic corruption in his administration, his public condoning of corruption (remember stealing is not corruption and Goat some and yams speeches) and the mishandling of the Chibok kidnapping. By the time of the 2015 elections no nation wanted to have anything with GEJ.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 8:30am On Jul 18, 2020
basilico:
Zero of course had zero indicements.
Maybe Durham will find out why this petulant zero was never investigated. We all know that because no one has investigated him
because it would have been deemed racist.

You are pushing a Russia collusion narrative ignoring Chicoms who have basically grounded the global economy.

You want Trump to fight Russia over an allegation that Mueller said they found no evidence despite a massive sprawling 2.5 years investigation by his Democrats prosecutors.
And let China have their cake and eat it
When did Mueller say that? Inspite of all the Russian indictments by Mueller?

You guys just lie barefaced, without any regard for facts. Trump bring out the worst impulses in people.
Politics › Re: What Happened When Goodluck Jonathan Got To Mali On A Rescue Mission ( Video) by wirinet(m): 8:20am On Jul 18, 2020
NEWACADEMY:
OBJ is retiring already. His connections are becoming outdated. I dont think there is any other leader who will command the respect of the international community like GEJ in Nigeria for now.
GEJ that was a pariah among world leaders, that no one wanted to deal with when he was president. Even our West African leaders avoided him like a plague, not to even other countries like south Africa, Morocco, Arab nations and even western nations.

GEJ is enjoying his status as a former Nigerian president (the immediate past one for that matter) , just like OBJ enjoyed the same privileges before him. Even Abulsalami enjoyed lots of international invitations decades after handing over.
Christianity Etc › Re: Bishop Oyedepo: If You Don’t Pay Your Tithe You Are Under A Financial Curse by wirinet(m): 8:08am On Jul 18, 2020
dederocs:
I see Saudi billionaires, Russian billlionaires, China have the highest millionaires, people from the gulf and arab world, all these people are richer, more prosperous and happier than Nigerians and Africans that pay tithes obediently...but his sheepies will be scared, its funny how these old tactics keep working on gullible Nigerians and Africans, and our country and continent is still the worst. Give to the poor, so they can eat, not men that needs your money to maintain their expensive dynasty.
It goes beyond Christianity. It's a carryover belief from our traditional African religion, that was incorporated into Christianity. In our traditional religions, you need to give the diety something tangible before you are eligible to receive blessings - be it animal sacrifice, human sacrifice, a valuable item or money. The new christian doctrine just eliminated all other sacrifices and insist on cash. The sacrifice has been couched in tithes and offerings. Of course, all these are for the benefit of the priest.

Such quid pro quo messages did not resonate with European and Jews, who were the originators of Christianity.
Christianity Etc › Re: Bishop Oyedepo: If You Don’t Pay Your Tithe You Are Under A Financial Curse by wirinet(m):
gaius01:
Don't come and tell scrap, because am unabashed about what am gonna say.

Now let's skip Bishop talk, personally, I born into a Christian family, my mom is a tithe freak I mean she's a chronic tither. I grew up seeing this and how it's has work for her. beware am not saying this to rise debate among people who seems to know but know nothing. most people here are evidence of this Romans 1:18-21. OK back to my story, seeing mum every Sunday wrapping her tithe made me to ask her as a little boy if this so called tithe is essentially in a Christian anticipating for God's open doors. that day she tutor me and tell me how God do bless immersible after paying her tithe. I was in awe not until I went to school. when ever I get back to school from weekend I didn't pay Not tithe do you know the little money I was given from home fly like it's has wings. with in an eye brink am broke again but if pay my tithe, the no. of doors that will be open for me even in school I will be like God is it how this tithe of thing work. some one sent my mum airtime about 1k do you know she pay that tithe, 1OO, can you imagine so I mimick that a friend of mine sent me 5h card I close my eyes and pay 5O, as tithe the next week I received another airtime of the previous amount. see tomorrow I will be paying the tithe. I have seen lots of naïve who knows nothing about tithe bashing it with out any insight, making thier claims base on what people say, and which is very wrong. you don't talk what you don't know. see tithing opens door you can't come and preach to me that's it's bad reason because have seen and partake of its blessing. so all this comment and trolls that's this guys are saying is because they see this pastors raiding in exotics cars, living flamboyantly and assume it's the tithe that's is been paid to the pastor. do you know tithe are not given to pastor but God, some of those tifhe are send to missionary doing God's work I the rulers areas to support their well being. my question is do you think doing God's work is a curse, no! it's not a curse rather God will bless you. some one might say, there are fake pastor alright, that's why as Christians we ask God for discernment so that you won't pay to the wrong person. if you can give to the society of help God why and what's stopping you from giving to God. let's me drop this pen cause I got lot of facts to school this newbie about tithing, like I warn I don't care about your trolls all I care is, 'hope read all, you can take it or fake it' but remember paying your tithe pays

shalom !!!!
You and your mum are tithe freaks, but depend on your dad and others (who most likely do not pay tithe), to receive blessings. Imagine needing other people's money to buy ordinary recharge card. Some of us hate begging others for survival.

There is no substitute to acquisition of a skill, hard work and creating value. If you do these, tithe or not, you will be successful.
Crime › Re: EFCC Arrests UNIPORT Undergraduate, Girlfriend And Mum Over Internet Fraud(pics) by wirinet(m):
dangoteinlaw:
magu news hardly gathered enough comments, but now a young kid is arrested i bet u this thread will get to page 10 before afternoon today. Nigerians are just envious of those bois. What could be worse than what magu did and yet he was let out on bail, no one even asked how thr proceedings in court went thats if he was actually even charged to court. Nigeria can only get worse because the citizens would rather stone a small thief than catch the real thieves that pushed the small ones into crime. As i type this i feel sad for how our country has been brainwashed to live in mental shackles and to believe thr leaders are right to steal while thr fustrated youths should all be locked up for trying to survive. What a shame.
Even though Magu's alleged crime is more serious than this young kids own, the boys crime is easier to convict and with harsher punishment according to the law.

Magu's crime is against Nigeria, but the boy's crime is against the almighty USA. The FBI did the investigations, and provided evidence to the EFCC. Magu's crimes will be investigated by Nigeria's incompetent investigative bodies like the Police and the new Justice Salami's panel. Nigeria cannot be seen to be soft of internet fraudster and there is an agreement with the US government to go after Yahoo boys.

Magu has the power and connection to hire SANs to defend him, the little boy has probably a charge and bail lawyer.
Crime › Re: EFCC Arrests UNIPORT Undergraduate, Girlfriend And Mum Over Internet Fraud(pics) by wirinet(m): 10:18am On Jul 17, 2020
Slymonster:
Bro make your money and stop writing all this epistle. Everyone can never be the same, there will always be people richer. If someone buys a Benz and it makes you feel like your lazy. You are the one who need proper orientation.
In order words, he should also go into internet fraud, or any other crime to make money. even kidnapping and armed robbery is hard work according to you.

If you see nothing wrong with a 22 year old student, with no inheritance money or visible means of livelihood, owning a 3 bedroom duples and 3 state of the art cars, then i am more than sorry for your morals.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 10:52pm On Jul 15, 2020
Gullah:
Media is very careful to not ask Mary Trump whether or not she's ever actually met Donald Trump. She was in the same room in 2017 for a large family gathering. Eric Trump didn't recognize her, having never seen her. She has no photograph anywhere of her with Donald Trump.
And so? What are you insinuating - that she being a niece of Donald Trump is a hoax?

Can you please link to to the video or report where Eric Trump said he has never seen her.

Nigerian MAGAs are something else. They are even worse than the real MAGAs in the US. They make the stupidest excuse you will ever hear.
Politics › Re: Nigeria Earned $206bn From Oil In Five Years – OPEC by wirinet(m): 11:58am On Jul 15, 2020
isthatso:
All these figures are misleading because they are sales not profit. We are poorer than we think we are. Oil is not all it is cracked up to be. We can publish headline figures of sales all we want but what enters our pocket is what is left after cost of production and equity for the oil companies that actually to the production. I challenge anyone to publish figures that show that the profit (which is what really matters) that accrues to Nigeria from this $206m sales in the last 5 years is more than $80-100m.


We are a dead poor country because our government is poor. Our governments are poor because we focus our energy on oil as if oil is the basis of our economy. Our GDP is approx $450m, oil only accounts for about 10%. One of the reasons we are poor is that govt focuses on the oil sector for revenue and largely ignores the other 90%
I completely agree with you that Nigeria is indeed a very poor country, and i am also aware that our oil earning (official) is often exaggerated. Most times I am not sure if the figures quoted are profits or turnover (sales).

Having said that, calculating our actual GDP is very complex. This is because a lot of our economy is informal and can never be captured by data. How do you calculate the okada rider, the kabu kabu driver who is not captured by any data? How do you make provisions for the billions of dollars or funds sent by families and loved ones from abroad? Incoming passengers physically import lots of undeclared foreign currency that is not captured by data.

Then there is the billions of dollars earned by Nigerians as a result of crime - drugs and scams. I would not even be surprised if Nigeria's highest foreign exchange earner is crime. If one person Hushpupi could be worth tens of millions of dollars due to scam, imagine what all the millions of scammers in and out of nigeria are worth. Then add to that the earnings from drugs, human trafficking and prostitution. I am sure the total figures would be tens of billions yearly. There are thousands of young guys living both in Nigeria, living opulent lives solely on scams or 419.
Politics › Re: Nigeria Earned $206bn From Oil In Five Years – OPEC by wirinet(m): 9:49am On Jul 15, 2020
Igbochief001:
Bros it's just 125 dollars per each Nigerian in 5 years ...it's literally nothing

70% of that money u use it to pay ...civil servants ,police , army , navy , subsidize University , fight Boko Haram and about 20% is eaten by politicians .. the rest 10% is what u see as roads ,few light u have
They just don't understand that we are actually very poor. Imagine just $206 billion in 5 years for a population of 200 million.
That's just $206 per person per year. That's is even not taking into consideration that over 20% of that money is used for debt servicing. Out of the remaining money, 70 is spent by about 1% of the rolling elites - civil servants and political office holders, and then the remaining 30% is supposed to be spent for the rest of the masses (capital expenditure ), of which half is also embezzled by politicians.

So in the end, the masses end up with nothing.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 7:54am On Jul 15, 2020
CoronaVirusRelo:
“We’ll man it, and woman it”

-Donald Trump


I am still of the strong opinion that Trump is mentally unstable, or abusing substances not good for his health.
Donald may also meet some of the criteria for dependent personality
disorder, the hallmarks of which include an inability to make decisions or
take responsibility, discomfort with being alone, and going to excessive
lengths to obtain support from others. Are there other factors that should
be considered? Absolutely. He may have a long undiagnosed learning
disability that for decades has interfered with his ability to process
information. Also, he is alleged to drink upward of twelve Diet Cokes a
day and sleep very little. Does he suffer from a substance- (in this case
caffeine-) induced sleep disorder? He has a horrible diet and does not
exercise, which may contribute to or exacerbate his other possible
disorders. - Mary L Trump
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 5:02pm On Jul 14, 2020
ijedeikorodu:
Did Melania Trump graduated with an architectural degree or not and from which university, at least Michelle Obama certifications can be verified?
She graduated with a degree in architecture in MAGA's alternative universe. In that universe, Melania gained entry into Yale School of Architecture (instead of modelling), and graduated at the age of 22 with a distinction and masters degree in architecture. She later became the most renowned architect in the US. She in met her husband Donald, when she designed the award winning New York Trump Towers.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 4:40pm On Jul 14, 2020
basilico:
Some of the brightest not. necessarily the richest people I have met are architectural graduates. They major in science and arts, .spend countless hours designing aesthetic stuff that can span structural epochs.
Architectural graduates move into very funny career's like performing arts, structural design, etc.
Very versatile people.
Unlike socialogists who invite their mothers to white house , then claim it was built by slave labour and finally say bye Felicia.
No respect from me.
Who asked for a sermon on comparing sociologists with architectural graduates?

Provide proof that Melania Trump is an architectural graduate or any other graduate for that matter.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 12:50pm On Jul 14, 2020
feedthenation:
Too Much and Never Enough - Mary L. Trump


https://b-ok.cc/book/5622085/0f7a38
Just received an online copy a few minutes ago.

Politics › Re: DSS, Police Go After NFIU Office Burglars by wirinet(m): 2:15pm On Jul 13, 2020
Crack teams from the Department of State Service (DSS) and the Force Criminal Investigation Department (FCID) of the Nigeria Police have begun a manhunt for those involved in the burgling of the office of the Nigerian Financial Intelligence Unit (NFIU), the central national agency that handles disclosures and intelligence in the financial sector.

The office, located at No. 12, Ibrahim Taiwo Street, Aso Villa, was allegedly burgled last Thursday night. It was, however, discovered on Friday morning. When the suspected burglars broke in, at least seven computers, containing sensitive financial information, were reportedly taken away, while others were damaged.
So you mean to tell me the IT department of Nigerian Financial Intelligence Unit (NFIU) have no back up for their data? So if their computers or server should crash, or the office got burnt, all their data will be lost? I no understand o!
Politics › Re: What's Wrong With Socialism? Lets Debate by wirinet(m): 1:43pm On Jul 13, 2020
CanadaOrBust:
Mention one truly socialist country that anybody wants to emigrate to.
Talk real life not words on paper
China prides itself as a socialist republic. You mean to tell me that you are not aware that a lot of our eastern brothers prefer to emigrate to China than the US. The fact that you think the US is heaven does not make it so for everyone else.

Vietnam also calls itself a socialist state.

Here is a more detailed LIST OF SOCIALIST STATES

Now you also mention one truly capitalist country.

What do you call a situation where Americans, including right wing anti socialist Republicans, collect hundreds or even thousands of dollars monthly in unemployment checks, while sitting in theory homes doing nothing.
Politics › Re: What's Wrong With Socialism? Lets Debate by wirinet(m): 8:15am On Jul 13, 2020
CanadaOrBust:
*) Who would want to be a doctor? Why go through the stress of medical school and specialising in any field of medicine when you can just sit down at home and get equally paid? With this, the medical field will eventually collapse in a socialist state and hospitals would be nothing to write home about. Even if the socialists leaders are transparent enough to fund hospitals, no one would be willing to be a doctor. Why would many want to go through the stress of teaching, going to school, getting a masters or PhD when they can just sit down at home and get free stuffs. With this, the educational system will collapse. In fact no one would want to work except do the basic necessary things to survive.

*) Since people would stop working since they are getting free stuffs, who is going to generate money? What happens when everyone runs out on other people's money? You get poverty and starvation. The state might not even care since they own everything and are well to do so they may ignore the people's need and there's nothing the people can do about that. Even if they wanted to provide, who is willing to work? The lazy government or the lazy people? Even if the government forced people, will they risk a rebellion or will they get what they want given that the people have no skills?

*) As I have explained, the state has absolute power without checks and they are everyone's hope of survival hence the room to abuse human rights and oppression of the people with impunity.
I think you are drunk on US far right propaganda, which tend to demonise socialism. They use scare tactics and doomsday scenerios to discourage any format of socialism. Meanwhile, they themselves depends on government bail outs and support in terms of crisis.

Socialism and capitalism is defined by whether private individuals or governments control factors of production and state resources.
It has nothing to do with the outlandish examples you gave above. Socialism never advocates for everyone sitting at home and collecting salaries. Even communism with is an extreme form of socialism never advocated that. How will there be production if everyone sits at home? Where will the money to be used for running the state come from?

Socialism is mainly about wealth distributions, it attempts to distribute state's resources and wealth in a more equitable manner. Throughout history extreme capitalism had failed. A situation where a very few individuals control most of the state's resources and wealth had always led to anarchy. The poor masses eventually rise up and challenge the few elites, leading to revolutions, wars and upheavals. Europe suffered mass revolts when they practiced feudalism with is an extreme form of capitalism.
The army, police and security forces can only keep the poor masses at bay for a while, one day they will rise up and kill the billionaires and trillionaires if they become hopeless and desperate.

Even communist Russia and communist China still had very good doctors and health services, in fact communist Cuba had some of the best doctors in the world, so I don't understand the examples you gave. Can you please give an example of a country that had ever practiced the kind of socialism you described above?
Politics › Re: What's Wrong With Socialism? Lets Debate by wirinet(m): 2:58pm On Jul 12, 2020
Minsk24:
No we don't need complete Socialism especially we southerners... Socialism is best for a small population just like some Nordic countries are doing, when u have a big population like ours, its best to let private business and innovation thrive...
Actually man is a social animal. We could never have risen to the apex of the animal kingdom without being social. Whether on the family, clan, tribal or national level, some level of socialism promotes progress and stability.

As I said earlier, from practical experience complete Socialism (communism ) had proven to be a disaster.

Even the US that boasts of capitalism and credits it's development to capitalism is not exactly accurate. A lot of technologies were funded with public money and not private money, ie space exploration, nuclear bomb and others. Furthermore, during the sub prime mortgage crisis of 2008, the banks who caused the crisis were given trillions of public money as bail outs. During this coronavirus crisis, the Trump administration has spent trillions of dollars supporting private business. What's is capitalism if public resources are always used to bail out private businesses?
Politics › Re: What's Wrong With Socialism? Lets Debate by wirinet(m): 1:20pm On Jul 12, 2020
Minsk24:
Chai, your reply has made me believe thar truly, people dy reason... Abeg drop your aza make i bless u this lovely Sunday..
Combining these two systems like China and Europe are doing is the best... Wherein the state controls some (critical) sectors and also provides welfare to ensure a level playing field for everyone while allowing private businesses to flourish...
Gbam!
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:23am On Jul 12, 2020
basilico:
Fake . Another lie debunked.Trump hating snopes.com of all declares this is afake

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-report-card-fordham/

This report card was frequently shared along with jokes mocking Trump for his alleged failing of statistics, near failing of English, and his overall 1.28 GPA. This report card image, however, is a fake.

One giveaway is the listed address for Donald Trump. While 85-15 Wareham Place is indeed the address of Trump’s childhood home, he only lived at this location for the first four years of his life. In other words, this was not his address when he attended Fordham University in 1964.

We reached out to Fordham for more information about this “report card,” and spokesman Bob Howe confirmed to us that the image was a fake, saying: “The image is a forgery, not an actual Fordham University transcript. Fordham University respects the privacy of its students and alumni, and follows federal law regarding the handling and release of academic records.”
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Since you know all about Trump's grades and which ones are fake and which ones are genuine, why not avail us the genuine results to shame all anti Trumpers.
You guys did not let us rest concerning Buhari's Secondary School Certificate results, even after he presented a statement of result from his secondary school, and certified copy from WAEC and a print out from Cambridge.

Where is Trump's 'Secondary School Certificate' results?
Politics › Re: What's Wrong With Socialism? Lets Debate by wirinet(m):
CanadaOrBust:
All I know is that all the major innovations of our time are from capitalist countries ( US especially, the bastion of capitalism). Anything from socialist countries is either copied or stolen from capitalists
You seem to have US complex. Most major innovations did not come from the US. Most scientific innovations actually started from Europe, ie Electricity, printing press, internal combustion engines, rocket technology, evolution, Germ theory, Astronomy, nuclear etc.

What the US does is steal manpower. They entice the best scientists (and those in other fields ) and then Americanise them and their innovations. Other typical very recent examples are Elon Musk and Hoan Ton-That.
Politics › Re: What's Wrong With Socialism? Lets Debate by wirinet(m): 6:07am On Jul 11, 2020
Both systems have their strengths and weaknesses. The ideal system should be a harmonious blend of the two, which China and Europe is operating.

Untamed capitalism often lead to means of production being concentrated in few hands, leading to oligarchies, which in turn leads to huge disparity between the rich and poor. Such societies are eventually brought down by social tensions between the rich and poor. As the oligarchs get richer, the masses gets poor, until the poor masses revolts against the few rich elites.

A situation whereby 1% of the population controls 45% of a country's wealth, while the bottom 80% controls only 7% is unacceptable. That's a disaster waiting to happen.

Untamed socialism (communism ) is also as bad, if not worse than untamed capitalism. As all the factors of production is controlled by the state, the few elites controlling the state also form a sort of oligarchy and therefore control everything. They exploit and corrupt the system to their own advantage, while the masses suffer poverty and deprivation. Communism has the added flaw of inefficiencies in production and productivity.
Politics › Re: Buhari Cancelled WAEC, But Wants To Hold Edo & Ondo Elections- Reno Omokri by wirinet(m): 5:38am On Jul 11, 2020
Simplyleo:
I used to think this old criminal has some education, but his recent utterances indicate he is not in anyway different from the stark ipob illiterates hailing his foolishness.

So a 1-day election in which social distancing can be perfectly practised is what the goat is comparing with children exercise that will last for at least 6 weeks? Won't the school children be in class for some orientation before the exam?

If the election is suspended on the ground of COVID 19, the implication is that an interim sole administrator must be appointed immediately the tenure of the incumbent expires. And who is to appoint the interim administrator? The president of course. The same goat and his i-peeg followers will still be the animals saying Buhari suspended election in those states so he appoint his puppet.

This foolish bastard keeps getting more disgusting by each minute of the day. undecided
My brother, I am shocked at Omokri and his acolytes comparing an election to a series of examinations. First does Buhari even have the powers to cancel an constitutionally mandated election? Then, what happens if Buhari cancels the Edo elections? Remember the tenure of the state assembly would expire also. It simply means Buhari will appoint a sole administrator to govern the state. What will his party (PDP) say if Buhari cancel the elections and appoint a sole administrator?

Nigeria is not the only country cancelling or suspending exams this covid19 period. Most universities have either cancelled or suspended their academic session. Even if the WAEC exams holds, which tertiary institutions will they use the results to gain admission into?

Some people just open their mouths and spew rubbish and surprisingly, the elicit support from anarchist like him, who wish to destroy everything to feed their hatred.
Politics › Re: How Petitions On Tinubu’s Bullion Vans Landed Magu In Trouble by wirinet(m): 5:29pm On Jul 10, 2020
BERNIMOORE:
After breezing through the objective explanations above,
You still went ahead to expose that you have comprehension problem that is the problem with you guys defending Tinubu Its like a huge part of your brain cant think relatively and apply simple information without you keeping to repeating already answered questions going round the table like a toddler you're.

To help you out again

He is only telling you process that should be followed to establish money laundering and you on the other hand felt insulted and feel it's unnecessary

Now comes to Establishing the content of the bullion vans

Magu is said to have set up committee on the matter but refused to act on its findings
So, he has to go so that a fearless person expose the content and recomends the next line of action
If you agree that Tinubu deserves not to be investigated Then you're in the league of those clamouring that Abass Hushpupi is a saint and should be let go.
Investigated for what exactly. If you say Tinubu should be investigated for the way he spent Lagos State money while still governor, I agree with you wholeheartedly. If you insist Tinubu should be investigated for defrauding Lagos State with any of his companies, I concur. But to investigate him because his bank decides to deliver cash to his home using bullion vans is preposterous. Even if the Bullion vans were used for illegal activities, the bank involved will be more liable than Tinubu.

The money laundering act never barred banks from giving their customers N80 billion naira in cash. What it specified are individual transactions. All individual transactions over certain limits must be done through the banks or a financial institution . A financial institution supplied the cash and he has not been proven to give any individual more than N5 million in cash.

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