₦airaland Forum

SirVintageCock:
Here comes the threats, the insinuations and innuendoes......again and again.

You forgot this is Nigeria where the government also plays the victim card. They must have been requesting for compensations before the projects commenced and nobody was taking them serious. FG can shelve the project on a wimp if they so wish. This will not be the first time.

You still failed to answer the question, whou still have been requesting compensation? The land owners or the community? Remembers as someone rightly pointed out, this project was proposed over 3 decades ago. It had been awarded and re-awarded. Even Jonathan moved to site, and you think all these times, the people directly affected by the project had not been compensated? Why now?

If the FG shelve the project on a wimp as you suggested because the communities does not allow the contractor to work, I hope you will not shout marginalisation and blame the FG of abandoning the East.

KosiGee:
If all the risk assessments have been carried out and land access and other related issues which might derail or threaten the project have been resolved, security should be beefed up around the area instead of the threats of taking the fund meant for execution of the bridge elsewhere.

About your community, your community leaders should be held accountable and not the contractors. They collected and either consumed or held onto your piece of ‘cake’. The various factions should be working together to fight and strip the leaders of their titles. They failed you.

Now with the security posed by the youths, I don’t think it’ll be wise to stop the exploration except their activities are unsafe and dangerous to the communities. This is the time to police and monitor their activities to ensure that their operations are eco-friendly.

I am just annoyed. My cousin went to the village and only came back yesterday. The situation is appalling. We are not gaining any thing from the project because of infighting, not even jobs for our youths or contracts. He was complaining that they brought in Igbos from Portharcourt to do the jobs and contracts. I told him I don't blame them, because they have to hire people that are ready to work. I am interested in the supply contracts, but, they are afraid to deal with anyone from our community because of the court cases. There is no way to monitor their activities, as they brought in lots of security personel to shield themselves from restive youths.

Mescana22:
But seriously if Ghana have half of nigeria mineral resources, they will be giant of AFRICA, yes they are corrupt but this country is working, because there citizens are the check and balances the govt needs, if you watch all there TV programmes its all about governance and cost of governance, and how they speak out, this people are lawful, obeys traffic, 24/7 power, no robbery, i move arounnd 2,3,4, am and pressing my phone ,no one minds you, very calm and peaceful, dey hail you bosssu, you hailed them chalire, they construct roas like oyibo, the police and emergency services responds withing 5 mins, Oboy this people dey try, i refused to come back naija again, because i am scared of Lagos, One gal called Mensah has sucked me dry and she sabi cook wakkyche,

Bone that thing. Ghana no near Nigeria. Ghana dey try for their small size and resources, but you can compare them to Nigeria. How many urban cities the whole of Ghana get? Is it up to 6. After Accra, Kumasi, Sekondi-Takoradi, Sunyani, Obuasi, and Cape Coast, which other urban cities do they have. Nigeria has 6 urban cities in every state.
How many doctors have they produced, how many professors, how many world renowned businessmen? Do they have the equivalent of Dangote, Adenuga, Innocent Chukwuma, Okonjo Iweala, wole soyinka, Fela, Whiz kid, etc. In which sphere or profession will Ghana beat Nigeria?

Since Ghana depends a lot on tourism, they need lots of promotions to attract foreigners, and thus the propaganda.

rodeo0070:
Ghana's Kotoka International Airport has been adjudged the best airport in West Africa and the fourth-best in the World by the Airport Council International (ACI) Africa.

Forth in the world? I apologise to my eastern brothers for calling them chest beaters. According to omatsola, dem dey learn. Ghanaians are chest drummers.

Cmanforall:
There could be other ways to compensate landowners

Landowners must have been compensated, the people blackmailing the FG are communities (read between the lines - chiefs, elders and youths).

Princedapace:
When God create black man, he didn't give him brain for leadership. What he said is simply like someone who was forced to undertake a project in a country where the same region pays tax. Land is not free anywhere in the world. There was a land use dispute between a top English club and the owners of the land few years back.

As a FG, u simply find a way to resolve it not making threats. These leaders are the major reason I'm so tired of the country. Leadership skills, they don't have. It is so obvious this man and majority of the leaders in Nigeria are so reluctant in siting any project in the east.

And you shift blame to the FG and exonerate greedy community elders and youths who want to blackmail the FG and contractors for personal greed. You are right, When God create black man, he didn't give him brain.

Yusuf4:
How then can you just conclude that it’s the Youths that are not doing anything that wants to be compensated. The truth is, the Federal Government don’t want to compensate the land owners on the ground that it’s a public project that will benefit them.

As far as I know, this project will not even benefit the host community specially.

Are you sure you know what you are saying? A major road and bridge passing through your community will not benefit the community? A bridge a major bridge that will link the south to the rest the country.
Anywhere a major road in completed, land value double instantly.

KosiGee:
That’s blackmail. The federal govt, state government and the contractors should resolve all issues related to lands etc before they commence work.

It's the communities that are blackmailing. There is no way the projects would pass through design and survey stage and contractor move to site without compensating the families.

I dey vex right now. Oil drilling just commenced in my community and in my village a few months back. Our community leaders have been collecting Ghana must go bags from the contractors without letting anyone know. When people became aware, serious gbege. Now we have over 5 factions fighting each other including court case. Even the Olu has waded in and no solution. The contractors just brought Navy, army and mopol. Anyone that comes near the site will be shot. Now they are drilling without paying all the necessary compensations, and I don't blame them.
That's why I laugh when people who have no idea of Niger Delta politics and greed shout resource control.

mrvitalis:
The constitution demands compensation before land is taken ...lands are expensive in the east negotiate with the families but wanting to do it by force is never going to work

Land mass has never being an issue ...England is just like Niger + brono states but they controled half of the world

Yes negotiate with families. Did the families claim they have not been compensated? I doubt the projects would have been designed, surveys carried out and contractors moved to site without settlement with the actual land owners.

Collins4u1:
Haters everywhere.. Compensate them, period!!.

bleeped country,.

Compensate them for what exactly? Was their family properties or farmlands affected.

BuhariAdvocate:
That is very wrong.Government should know that the issue of community chasing away contractors that refuse to compensate them not just started today. Its a long tradition in our society. I'm expecting the contractor's to settle the community also government should wake up to their responsibility by providing job to the youth Because if they are living fine they will not ask contractors for money .

What do you mean settle community? Is the project itself not enough settlement for the community. Take for example the second Niger bridge, do you know the long term benefits the bridge will bring to communities on either side of the bridge, and the whole south east as a whole. This is the bridge south easterners had been clamouring for decades. A few greedy people will now chase contractors from site because the want to collect money.
Mind you, I am not saying those that lands directly affected by the projects should not be compensated, but giving all the communities (aka community elders and youths) along the route money for not doing any work is wrong.

TheShopKeeper:
Inside Trump's First Pentagon Briefing: And what I saw there that foretold the coming rift between Mattis and the president.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/10/21/inside-trumps-first-pentagon-briefing-229865

...this is an interesting article about cadetspurs trump at the pentagon in 2017...very long article...but some points highlighted:

Instead, the president burst out in the middle of the meeting.
“I just returned from France,” he said. “Did you see President Macron’s handshake?” he asked no one in particular. “He wouldn’t let go. He just kept holding on. I spent two hours at Bastille Day. Very impressive.” A pause.

“I want a ‘Victory Day.’ Just like Veterans Day. The Fourth of July is too hot,” he said, apparently out of nowhere. “I want vehicles and tanks on Main Street. On Pennsylvania Avenue, from the Capitol to the White House. We need spirit! We should blow everybody away with this parade. The French had an amazing parade on Bastille Day with tanks and everything. Why can’t we do that?”

Mattis and his team’s response to the president’s suggestion made clear that they were adamantly opposed to a military parade down Pennsylvania Avenue. Mattis and others voiced concern that a parade like what Trump wanted would harken back to Soviet Union—like displays of authoritarian power. Mattis stated that precious taxpayer dollars would be better spent elsewhere, and that the optics of such a display of power would boomerang, causing more harm to America’s international prestige than any domestic benefit could outweigh. Mattis was also concerned that a parade would risk eroding the military’s long-standing apolitical reputation.

Pence and Kushner sat stone-faced, not uttering a single word throughout the entire meeting. Maybe they were the smart ones.

For the remainder of the meeting, Trump veered from topic to topic—Syria, Mexico, a recent Washington Post story he didn’t like—like a squirrel caught in traffic, dashing one way and then another.
The issues were complicated, yet all of the president’s answers were simplistic and ad hoc. He was shooting from the hip on issues of global importance.

Briefing Ke? Trump and his worshippers believes Trump does not need any briefings, be it white house, pentagon or state department briefings, afterall Trump is omniscient. The only briefing Trump needs is Twitter briefings.
God forbids the US is actually involved in a real war under Trump. We will then learn whether the maxim by Alexander the great of "An army of sheep led by a lion is better than an army of lions led by a sheep" is actually true.

Wyttcat:
That must sound nice in your ear, right? And lollipops grow on trees! What a joker!

You people still don't get it that America is at civil war.

You must think they are Nigerian soldiers they handed knives to and sent after boko haram. Almost $3 trillions in 3 years, America reestablished its military as the world's finest and no military comes close, but it will be used wisely and for just wars. God used Obama to punish America for its sins and he will in turn pay for his own sins. The rumor that he has been executed already is not it, it will be made public when it gets to that.

What is happening in Syria first of all is something Trump campaigned on as the people who voted him to power are forever telling him to withdraw US troops from unnecessary war. He took few months for Trump to cut ISIS to size even when he didn't have them in mind, his target was the nuclear site in northern Syria and that was even to test bombs. Erdogan is backed by Trump to flush out the released terrorists backed by the deepstate. Turks and Kurds fight is basically two Americans fighting each other a proxy war in Syria. The Kurds region is a stronghold of Trump's enemies and if the Turks will take care of it, why won't Trump let them while he keeps his own promise? Trump refuses to fall for US troops being dragged back into being police force for the deepstate operatives. Kurds want a piece of Turkey as part of their country as promised by the deepstate. Trump's policy is different from that of his predecessor, he made it clear that if any American soldier must die, it must be for a just cause and troops withdrawal was at the top of that.

You guys Deification of Trump is more than all previous prophets put together. Any press that talks against trump or his policies are enemy of State, any public officers that disagree with Trump is Deep state, any Military officer that criticise Trump policy is useless and over rated officer, all other people that disagree with Trump are either liberals or Democrats. In fact Trump to them is Omniscient and Omnipotent.

The irony is all Trump supporters are the most ignorant people on the surface of the earth. They don't care about facts or logic, they just say things without processing it through their brains.
The US is said to have the best military principally because of its huge military budget and use of technology (mainly aerial superiority). US believes so much in using aerial bombings to win wars. But it had never worked in winning wars for the US through out its war history. Overwhelming air superiority did not win the Vietnam war, the Korean war and Afghan war. Israel also employed continuous bombing for 3 weeks in the Israel-hisbollah war of 2005, it could not gain territory from Hisbollah when they sent in ground troops.
US ground troops or infantry soldiers are not the best in the world. They don't have the tactical discipline required by good infantry soldiers. That's why they take huge casualties in all ground operations. The British are better infantry soldiers than than the US.

It was actually the Kurds that put boots on the ground that defeated ISIS, the US only provided air cover and military advisers. It is a joke to say Trump cut ISIS to size. Trump did not bring in any new strategy to the ISIS war, he only continued with Obama's strategy of providing air support and arms to the Kurds. Is was loosing huge territory before Trump was sworn in, it's complete defeat was only a matter of time.

As I said your ignorance is as bright as the morning star. The Kurds had been fighting for an independent state from 3 countries for decades, if not centuries. They have been fighting the Turkish, Iraqi and Syrian government for an autonomous kurdish state. Saddam Hussain used military force including chemical gas attacks to keep them in check. Turkey had been fighting the Turks before your so called deep state against Trump.

What do you mean "God used Obama to punish America for its sins and he will in turn pay for his own sins."? Are you sure you are not on some type of drugs?

Just30:
Exactly what we are doing now

but if you dont want to take heed, we may have to leave you t your own troubles
Petrol and diesel are cheaper in Ghana than in Burkina Faso

There are over 200 more filling stations on our burder with Burkina Faso than in Accra
So fuel smuggling was a lucrative business.
What did the Ghanaian government do?
It completely removed subsidizes and increase immigration officers checkpoints along the border and went ahead to close down alot of the filling stations along the border.
Placed trackers on all fuel takers that bunker fuel to filling stations in the country.

False equivalence. Nigeria is very different from Ghana. Our borders are way longer than Ghana's and so more difficult to man, besides most of the smuggling don't happen at the borders, there are hundreds if not thousands of bush paths and water ways smugglers use to smuggle into the country.

We have tried those policies you mentioned to no avail. I remember during IBB's time, a ban was placed on locating fuel stations close to the border.
Placing trackers on all petrol tankers sound ridiculous. Do you know how many petrol tankers are on our roads. Fuel tankers line the whole Oshodi express way from tin can ports to cele (a distance of more than 10km) queuing load fuel. Same on the other end from tin can to Carter bridge blocking the whole of Apapa. There are thousands of petrol tankers coming and leaving Apapa everyday.
Fuel consumption in Ghana is not up to 10% of what we consume in Nigeria.

Now the smugglers have move to smuggling fertilizers out of Ghana to Burkina Faso because the government of Ghana has hugely subsidized it.
THE Government in Ghana is catching them on a daily basis

How much fertiliser is smuggled from Ghana, I am sure it cannot be more than a few tens or at worst hundreds of tons, you want to compare it to the Millions of litres of petrol smuggled from Nigeria daily? How much subsidy do the government pay for fertiliser? Can it be compared to the N3 trillion Jonathan paid during his time, or the nearly N500 billion budgeted for next year?

On the border with Togo, Nigerians are smuggling textiles into Ghana daily
One of the difficult things Ghana has been fighting


so Nigeria has to learn than to close it border

Nigerians smuggling textiles into Ghana? That's news to me. Where are they getting the textiles from, as our textile mills are not working. Are you insinuating they import the textiles through our ports and then smuggle it all the way to Ghana through Benin republic and Togo?

drakeli:
You mean Ghana case for worse pass Zimbabwe be that where 100,000 Zimbabwe dollar only buy a loaf of bread.

That's true. If Ghana did not redenominate their currency, GHC10,000 in 2007 for don reach for GHC70,000 today. Meaning 1 cedi would have been equivalent of 70,000 cedis.

stagger:
Another fool talking.

The Ghanaian economy is a highly dollarized one. Why? the currency has become more worthless in the last three years.

100 GHS cannot even buy 20 litres of fuel. Fuel in Ghana is pegged to the US dollar.
How much are hotel rooms in Ghana? You cannot get a hotel in Osu area for anything less than $100 (540 GHS) a night. This is for a cheap hotel. The high end ones are far more expensive. In the hotel, they will even tell you to pay in US dollars if you have.

Infrastructure: apart from better electricity and a better educational system, where are the infrastructure? Is it the roads? The roads are narrow and many have craters, not potholes.

Tax: Ghana pays VAT of 13.5% to 17.5%. A bottle of Malta Guiness is on the average, 3.5 GHS. N245 on the average; what we buy N150 here. Very expensive. One egg costs 80 pesewas for a small one and 1 GHS for a big one. That is between N56 to N70 for one, as opposed to N30 for a raw one.

Things are bloody expensive in Ghana and even cost of foodstuff is high. Enter the streets of Ghana and ask the average Ghanaian if their living costs are low. They are all complaining and their standard of living is definitely not higher than in Nigeria.

People like this fellow can talk lies thinking they can deceive everyone. I go to Ghana and stay sometimes a month there and I know what's up.

That's why I am laughing louder than a hyena when someone says Ghanaian economy is better managed than Nigeria. Ghana Cedi that was redenominated in 2007 due to hyper inflation . Ghana Cedi had a 20,000 note before the redenomination.To make the cedi look strong, they removed 4 zeros from their currency, so 20,000 GHC became 2cedis.
Even with the redenominations, inflation has continued to devalue the currency.

After the redenomination GHC0.92 exchanged for one $1, today GHC5.48 exchange for $1, a 700% increase. In comparison, N120 exchanged for $1 in 2007, today it's at N360, that's a 400% increase.

Wyttcat:
Nigeria can't survive war against Ghana because Ghana with US base is actually a country but Nigeria is not a country. Nigeria is a giant fraud and confusion.

My brother bone that thing. US that will withdraw their troops before the first shots are fired. US that ran away from Northern Syria because Erdogan threatened to invade. They were even still on the run while Turkey was bombing the Kurds.
As I said Nigeria and Ghana should never fight, as we share the same history of colonialisation and exploitation by the British. We were the same under British West Africa and people were relocated within the two countries seamlessly. We should see each other as brothers. I hate this new trends of unhealthy rivalry and competition.

Babaken:
stop reasoning upside down do you think Nigeria Alone buy those made in Nigeria good's or imported goods all the surrounding countries patronized Nigeria market the same way Nigeria patronized other countries we all need each other. Ghana make enough Money from their land borders same with Togo I don't know about Benin republic is because their borders and custom are well organize. Nigeria has more custom on the road yet they complaining of smuggling what are those customs doing there. If foreign rice Turkey are the problem why not put laws that Will scared people way from smuggling it into the country like five years in prison for any driver found with one bowl of rice or a kilo of Turkey and after six months any shop within the country that is selling foreign rice or Turkey will be close down you tell me if it will not work.

Forget customs. Customs is one of the most corrupt organization in Nigeria. They exist basically to collect bribes. If you enact stricter laws and penalties, you will only succeed in increasing bribe money and making custom officers richer.

All governments in the past have grappled with this border issue. I remember Obasanjo closing the border on numerous occasions only to open it after pleading from Benin Republic. The only difference this time is Buhari is deaf.

winterfell007:
This is the only point I agree with coming from a Nigerian like me. We've got to make ourselves competitive. Protectionism policy of the Buhari's administration will kill innovation which sparks development

I say you guys only regurgitate economic theories you read in text books, you have no idea of how it works in the real world.
Most countries of the world employ protectionist policies. Donald Trump is a hardliners protectionist. He has imposed tarrifs on almost all goods coming into the US. He does not believe in free trade and open borders. Same with China. China is over protectionist. You cannot import anything freely into China, not even technology. It is only weak developing nations that the western developed countries through the world Bank and IMF tries to force to open their borders to free trade.

psychologygh:
Do you think Ghana have your time to be exporting rice to your country. We're having the same issue when government spends more than 1 billion dollars a year to import rice into our country for consumption. Do you realize we are the 2nd largest consumers,market and economy in West Africa and our consumption alone is a huge chunk on our foreign exchange. We have a population of 30 million and a GDP Purchasing power of almost 200 billion dollars. Did you see me telling you Nigeria exports goods worth 306 million dollars to Ghana in 2018 alone.Our exports to Nigeria is just 80 million dollars. Togo exploits us due to their free port just like Benin does to you.We have the same issues.Our exports to Nigeria is mostly Nigerian companies who relocated to Ghana and use the ECOWAS free trade route to export some of their goods to your market. We both loose if we start a trade war buh Nigeria loses badly. That's why your government have agreed with Ghana to open a temporary corridor for Ghanaian trucks to enter and leave Nigeria amidst the border closure .GUTA still refused for that and wants a ban of Nigerian goods and traders in Ghana. Our rice is even very different from yours and you will never find your type of rice in Ghana. Our rice cooks in just 20 minutes.

I am highly disappointed by your stance on this issue. Nigeria is hemorrhaging from our borders, and instead of you guys to understand and help profer a solution, you are threatening trade war. You even said you have similar issues with Togo, I expected you work with Nigeria diplomatically to solve the problem.
Do you know the damage the western and Northern borders are doing to our economy? Are you aware that we import (and pay subsidiaries on 40 million litres of petrol everyday) one would think we drink petrol like alcohol. Since the border closure, our fuel consumption is said to reduce to 30 million litres per day. Imagine multiplying 10 million by N50 subsidy everyday (apart from depleting our foreign reserves from the actual importation). Then there is the vexatious issue of using Benin and Togo as a transit point for smuggling all sorts of goods into Nigeria, cars, rice, poultry, second hand clothing including socks and bra, etc. The smuggling activities undermine all government policies. No other country in this world would endure the kinds of sabotage to its economy as being done by our neighbours.

You are saying the same falsehood that enemies of Nigeria are propagating, that Nigeria banned importation from other countries. This is very far from the truth. What was banned was importation through the land borders (for now). Ghana, being our closest west African brother should look for ways of addressing our concerns by suggesting alternative solutions, like creating a fool proof corridor or using shipping lanes, instead of threatening and emotional rants.

Believe me the $300 million yearly trade Nigeria does with Ghana pales into insignificance, when compared to the daily damage to our economy by smuggling.

dalongjnr:
Our culture frowned at unclothedness, nudity and what of you. All these tantrum you are throwing doesn't even answer my question. All your answers are OP.

When did our culture start frowning are unclothedness? Has it been been up to 100 years?

And which pdart of our culture frown at nakèdness, Christianity or Islam?

dalongjnr:
Lol,depending on the culture.
And to go inline with your submission, are you trying to say that we are going back to pre medieval era? This is adverse negative socialism. And if our grand parents walked naked due to poor resources, exposure, and knowledge. What does this generation lacks?
Stop encouraging what you can't do. And if you feels it's good, show us your naked pictures to prove that the world is going the way of our ancestors.

What are you yapping about? Your first argument is that unclothedness is foreign to our culture and that dressing like a nun or wearing burka and hijab was our culture. After some if us showed that dressing up fully is a fairly recent recent phenomenon, you then went on to say your own culture has always been fully dressed up in leaves, animal skin and hemp. After someone show that even your culture did not and could not have embraced full body clothings. You now brought up the argument of poor resources, exposure and knowledge. Are you now insinuating Kim Oprah has poor resources, exposure and knowledge due to her dress sense? People have always dressed according to climate, culture and personal preference. It would be stupid to suggest Africans living in the tropics will be fully covered from head to toe in leaves, animal skin or hemp.

Now, are you suggesting South Africans young girls that go naked in their yearly cultural festivities have poor resources, exposure, and knowledge?
What of Spain that have similar festivities, do they also have poor resources, exposure, and knowledge?

What's worrying most people in Nigeria is religious fundamentalism. You feel everyone else must live according to your values, and hate everyone that does not.

There is even a topless day held on August 26th of every year in major cities in the US and the West, where women (and men) go around town topless.

dalongjnr:
The absorption of western culture.
Our mothers never wore something like this but they were way more beautiful.
A celebrity should be a role model but what can my daughter learns from this one! How to become ½ naked?

That's not true. Our grandmothers, especially
Great grandmothers walked around naked or semi-naked. Infact nudity was celebrated back in the days. We are just going back to our roots.

coluka:
You're tying yourself into a knot, let me untie you a bit;

1. You said no crime has been alleged against Joe and Hunter Biden, at the same time you are saying Guiliani and his associates made allegations against them so you have already admitted that there are allegations against them. Rudy Gulianni is a citizen and
has a responsibility to report
allegations of corruption if he finds any.

You are the one behaving like a slithering snake that has tied itself into a knot, and looking for ways to untie itself.
What is the allegations exactly? That Joe Biden used his influence to stop and instigation into a company that Hunter Biden is a board member? Now, who is alleged to have committed a crime, Joe Biden for influence peddling or Hunter Biden for being on the board of the company. Now, has any allegation of corruption been brought against Burisma? How could Hunter and Joe Biden have been alleged to have committed a crime, while the company he works for have not been accused of any crime?

If Rudy Gulianni is a citizen and has a responsibility to report allegations of corruption he finds, aren't there official channels to channel those allegations. Are you telling me that all US private citizens channel allegations through the US president. Then after channeling the allegations, then the Onus now rest with him to investigate the allegations, abi? Maybe he would prosecute and sentence the accusers also, as he can complete the cycle of accuser, investigator, prosecutor, jury and judge.

2. It is normal for Trump to ask for the assistance of Ukraine's president in the investigation of the allegations against Biden because of the ''United States Treaty With Ukraine On Mutual Legal Assistance In Criminal Matters'' signed in 1998.

You can read all about it here;
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1177074977348235264.html

or see a full copy of the treaty here;
https://www.congress.gov/106/cdoc/tdoc16/CDOC-106tdoc16.pdf

I don't have time to read the treaty now, but I doubt the treaty is on a personal president to president favour level. I am sure that there are laid down channels to initiate assistance in criminal matters under the agreement. There is no proof that Trump initiated the Treaty On Mutual Legal Assistance In Criminal Matter, outside the rogue operation by Gulianni and phone call by Trump. Using the treaty as an excuse was an after thought. Was there such treaty also with China, as Trump also asked Xi Jinping also to investigate the Biden's. It seems the treaty was signed specifically for the Biden family.

3. Trump knows the official channels to initiate crimes commited by US citizens abroad is through the DOJ and that's why the phone conversation transcripts said he would ask the US attorney general to talk with the Ukraine President’s people and get to the root of the matter.
The attorney general is the head of the DOJ.

If Trump knew that the attorney general is the head of the DOJ, why give Gulianni the responsibility of the investigation. Should it not be the responsibility of the attorney general to assign FBI agents to investigate the case? What has been the role and response of William Barr in all these?

garetz:
l don't see anything wrong with that letter, were you expecting him to be all nice and cuddly with
Erdogan?

Can you ever see any thing wrong with anything Trump will ever do? Trump was referring to you when he said " even if he shoots someone in broad daylight light in the middle of 5th avenue, he will not lose any support.

Please read the letter slowly and tell me if he was not begging and pleading with Erdogan. I am certain in Erdogan's mind he will be thinking "what an idiot". Upon all the huffing and puffing Trump did last week about complete destruction of the Turkish economy, Erdoghan just ignored him. The Turkish lira has even strengthened since then.
Imagine, it was Putin that was threatening Turkey, Erdoghan would shake, but he knows Trump is a spoilt baby with a loaded gun, throwing tantrums up and down. He has very short attention span. Ignore him and he moves on.

feedthenation:
Our dear president is losing it.

Pelosi said Trump appeared "very shaken up" after the House overwhelmingly approved a resolution condemning the U.S. withdrawal from northern Syria and the abandonment of its Kurdish allies. House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.), GOP Conference Chairman Liz Cheney (Wyo.) were among the 129 Republicans who crossed party lines and voted for the Democratic-drafted measure, a dramatic slap at Trump in the midst of one the most serious foreign policy crises of his presidency.

And Nigerian Abobakus will belch this nonsense

zendi:
Trump is the definition of an anti-war President and I'm sure the vast majority Americans are happy about that.

According to the source, Trump cut Schumer off and responded that Mattis was "the world’s most overrated general. You know why? He wasn’t tough enough. I captured ISIS. Mattis said it would take two years. I captured them in one month." . I thought Mr Trump employs the best people.

Trump's type of madness is so severe that he will be rejected at Yaba left. He is talking as if he went to the war front and captured ISIS fighters. It was the Kurds that went into the battlefield to capture ISIS and appreciation from Trump is to abandon them at the first sign of trouble.
In fact he has released ISIS again within a week, and this is what General Mattis is pointing out to him.

This satirical song summarises Trump's crimes. It's called crime after crime.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6FJOL2RPdI

It's hilarious!

basilico:
The whole impeachment charade is about protecting Obama. He made them do illegal stuff- spying on his birther opponent using the 3 letter agencies. The other reason they want impeachment is because they are all corrupt.
Nancy Pelosi son sits on the board of an Ukraine gas company.
Hunter Biden was paid 83k USD per month for 5 years for sitting on an Ukrainian gas company while.offering nothing in an industry he knew zero about.
The impeachment issue became big because Trump mentioned Crowdstrike , the company that supposedly determined that Russia hacked the DNC. Crowd strike is owned by an Ukrainian.
Trump mentioned Crowd strike in his call.
Thus impeach. Because he will drain the swamp.
Adam Schiff who is running the impeachment charade was fundraised by an Ukrainian thug.

You people just make wild allegations without bothering how ridiculous you sound.
Which illegal stuff did Obama do, that he is being protected from. Where is the evidence that Obama was spying on his birther opponents, and how many opponents was Trump spying on?

So Nancy Pelosi's son sitting on the board of an Ukraine gas company and Hunter Biden being paid 83k USD per month for 5 years is now a federal crime in the US. In that case we need to investigate all public officers in the US, from federal, state and county officers to see which members of their families sit in boards both in the US and abroad and jail all of them.

obixcel:
Nancy Skeletal Pelosi holds off Vote on Impeachment Inquiry
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/15/house-democratic-leaders-impeachment-vote-047136
Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Democratic leaders will hold off on a full House vote authorizing an impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump, according to multiple lawmakers and aides.

Democratic leadership sources caution, however, that the decision could be "reassessed at some point."

Scared roaches, Cowards are fleeing

Nancy Pelosi had never supported impeachment, not necessarily because she thinks Trump is not culpable, but because knows the Republican dominated house will never remove Trump. She feels it will be a waste of time.

Pelosi is reluctantly going ahead half heartedly with the impeachment because she would face a rebellion in the party if she continued holding out. The vast majority of Democrats favour impeachment, even if it does not lead to a removal from office.

coluka:
And how is Trump's asking that allegations of corruption by Hunter and Joe Biden be investigated a crime? he has the power to do that as president.

And who was making allegations against Joe and Hunter Biden? Did the Ukrainian government complain to Trump that Hunter Biden have a corruption case to answer in Ukraine? Was the whole allegation not raised solely by Guiliani and his associates? When did Rudy Gulianni become James Bond, that is mandated by his majesty to investigate criminals abroad? Is it the norm to ask foreign leaders to investigate US citizens as a favour even then no crime has been alleged against them and the person is a potential political rival (let's even forget the alleged quid pro quo for now).
You mean to tell me Trump does not know the official channels to initiate crimes commited by US citizens abroad?

obixcel:
What's going on, Libtards, So the Whistleblower can't testify again?

White Nationalist worshipper, ,what's the whistleblower going to testify that was not in the rough transcript released by the white house?
What's the whistle blower going to testify that is different from what the former ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, has not testified

What is the whistle blower going to testify again, when Trump and his personal lawyer have confirmed, they indeed pressured the Ukrainian president to investigate Hunter and Joe Biden?

MetaPhysical:
OP, stop worshipping Israel. Not good for your health. Lol.

Israel cannot feed itself, much more another country. Israel survives as a dependent of US subsidies but it flexes muscle like it is self-sufficient. Truth is it is not.

Beside that,how does Israel and Nigeria in food production? No link!

Watch yaself!

It surprises me also.
A country the size of cross rivers state feeding the whole world
Have they been able to feed their 10 million odd population? Approximately 80% of the grain consumed in Israel is imported from other nations. Besides only about 20% of Israel's land is arable to support agriculture.

This Israel worship by a certain group of Nigerians us embarrassing.