₦airaland Forum

saintmark88:
Nigerians are wicked people, how can people c this and lip talking rubbish... Jesus I am seriously pained and irritated, how did our people evolve to b this heartless and wicked, the worst is even some female commenters are still saying its a scam n r not same pple, their sentimental , wicked, evil n bigoted perception won't let them c d resemblance.... For the girls saying rubbish, just put urself in her shoes n after, it could be u.

It is so sad. I do not think any other set of people in the world could be so cold, callous and heartless. Even ISIS and book haram seems to have more empathy. A girl was found after two years of rape and torture and all they can do is call her monkey with a baby. Meanwhile, when a fellow southerner, ESE was willingly abducted to kano, these same people vent their anger at Yenusa, (the alleged rapist), the Emir of kano and northerners as a whole.
Hatred is a disease of the soul, it beclouds rational thinkin .

shala01:
You just help in highlighting the difference between the two pic

What difference between the 2 pics? You have lost your humanity due to hatred. You hatred for APC and Buhari has darkened the soul of many people beyond redemption. We should be happy and be celebrating with the family of Amina for the safe return of their daughter, but some hate filled soils are insulting her and calling her monkey.

agitator:
You lied that you are an Ijaw when you listed Sapele, Port Harcourt and Warri as being Ijaw towns. This is one of the problems we have now, because of lying adults, youths no longer listen to the elders advice.

Please re-read my post you quoted again and try and comprehend better.

Nowhere did i say and i am Ijaw or that the listed towns are Ijaw towns. This is what i stated;

[size=14pt] Nigerdelta Youths especially the men, are extremely lazy, Go to Yenagoa, Sapele, Warri, Port harcourt, etc, the story is the same, the youth are only interested in community runs, extortion and handouts from Oil companies, local, state and federal governments instead of doing physical and mental work.
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JoelAmawhe:
I'm a Niger Deltan.
I'm a Software Engineer and I'm not lazy.

#NigerDeltansAreNotLazy

You most probably did not grow up in the Niger delta. when you have tasted amnesty, community, oil companies and other free monies, you will not have any motivation to work.

TonyeBarcanista:
Point of Correction: Beneficiaries of the so called Goodluck empowerment are political friends and loyalists of politicians as well as militants.

As for calling the Ijaws "lazy things", I won't join issues with you. I only blame the silly Dickson

Whether you accept it or not, the present generation of Ijaw (and Itsekiri youths too ) are damn lazy, especially those that live in the nigerdelta. NowTell me, have you even seen an Ijaw boy in Yenagoa or even portharcourt hussle? Have you seen an Ijaw boy sell items on the streets, ride Okada or even taxi or hire shops to sell items? Go to the nearest construction site, you will see that most of the labourers are women, or hausa and Igbo boys. The fact that Niger delta boys loath workis not Dickson's fault.

TonyeBarcanista:
I have been against the so-called amnesty since day 1

I also did not see the sense in the so call amnesty program as designed by Yar'adua/Jonathan. I did not see the sense in paying over 25,000 youths to sit at home doing nothing to bribe them from blowing up oil pipelines, while the environment degradation and exploitation continued. When free handouts stops, they simply return to blowing up oil pipelines.

Truth they say is bitter, that is why we cringe and fill social media with vitriolic attacks on who ever dares tell us the truth to our face. Although i have never been a fan of Governor Seriake Dickson, i appreciate his frankness in telling Bayelsan (and by extension Nigerdelta) youths the absolute truth. Nigerdeltan Youths especially the men, are extremely lazy, Go to Yenagoa, Sapele, Warri, Port harcourt, etc, the story is the same, the youth are only interested in community runs, extortion and handouts from Oil companies, local, state and federal governments instead of doing physical and mental work. Give them scholarships, they sell it to non indigenes. Give them Jobs, they sell the Jobs to others and sit down at home to collect a small percentage from the non indegene they sold the jobs to. Give them money for business, they drink alcohol, party, go clubbing and have more women in their harem. As a true Nigerdeltan, i am sure you can relate to what seriake dickson is saying. I have cousins who sold the slot allocated to them by the community to Igbo boys. One of my cousin was in the committee Uduaghan set up to provide loans to youths to set up fish farms in warri. I can tell you that all the Youths collected N500,000 and disappeared into thin air.

In all your vitriolic against Governor Dickson, you did not dispute any of the points he raised.

We need a total re-orientation in the Niger delta.We have to instil the value of hard work, instead of the belief that because we have oil, we should get everything free in life. The tragedy of the Nigerdelta is that we are not producing quality leaders to lead us out of our present quagmire, instead we are producing thugs, militants and criminals as leaders.

Totfulguy:
You are just probably a single, mummy's boy who is being fed by parents. If you have been fueling your car at 4,200 for 50 liters, and all of a sudden you are doling out N7,250 for the same 50 liters, you will not say what you are saying. People should 'suffer now so their children will enjoy'. Does your government not have the wit to create other sources of wealth in a country that is so endowed? When I hear this 'suffer now enjoy later' non.sense I just sorry for the ignorance in people. Are the children and family of those increasing the price of fuel suffering along with you? Gibberish!

I really do not understand your argument. Whose fault is it that you have been fueling your car with N4200 and you are doing same with N7,200 now? Will Buhari suck petrol from the Atlantic ocean to fill your car?

Here are the realities on the ground;
Nigeria imports almost 100% of its estimated 40 million liters per day requirement of petrol. Even if the refineries are working to full capacity, they can only supply max. 40% of requirements. In its 16 year rule, PDP did not maintain the 4 refineries not to talk of building 1 refinery.

Jonathan was able to keep petrol prices relatively low (inspite of massive corruption), because he had huge resources (dollars), selling over 2.2 million barrels of crude for over $100 for over 4 years. Buhari on the other hand has been selling far less than 2 million barrels of crude for an average price of $35 for the past 1 year. So where do you want him to get the dollars to import 40 million of petrol per day and then sell at half the cost price?

Now, choose one; do you want to guy cheap petrol and queue for hours if not days at the petrol station or you want to drive into a petrol station and buy fuel within minutes but have to pay the appropriate price. Besides, outside lagos and abuja, you could never buy petrol at the approved government price of N86 naira. When i travelled to warri last year, immediately we left lagos, petrol was selling at N140/litre in all petrol stations. Why is labour always behaving like Nigeria starts and ends with lagos and abuja.

As i always say;

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johnydon22:
This story in particular saddened me to my marrows, because such instances actually happens in our medical arena, it is a pointer sadly to how backwards, retarded and imbecilic Africans can be even the supposedly educated ones.

Any doctor who thinks an ailment is juju because he has no idea what is going on should be stripped off his certificates because they are completely useless and his years in universities wasted.

When will people learn, ignorance is not a gap that should be filled with an absurd assumption.

That he has no idea what happened means he don't

But i'm not surprised since you even mentioned it was a NL doctor ...

Now let me tell my own story..

Back forward like 600years ago in the medieval era, superstition was prevalent in europe just like it is now firmly grounded in Africa.

Once upon a time during this time in the history of Europe, the doctors of that era actually thought Epilepsy was a demonic attack.

Now 21st century, doctors do not think that, we now know better except of course some imbeciles in white dress seating in some African hospitals.

It is a sad reality that some doctors in Africa has turned medical practice in Africa into a voodoo diagnosing point, a laughing stock in the global scale of an incredibly civilized and informed 21st century world.

Left to such persons we would still be thinking Epilepsy was a demonic attack, or H.I.V as a result of village people attacking someone.

Tell me is that the type of world you'd like to live in?

A world that backwards, primitive and crude?

Where some illiterates in white dress (Some African doctors) suggest juju, in saner climes they would be working tirelessly day and night in the lab to find out exactly what is going on and possibly when that is achieved find a cure thereby saving millions.

Human body can harbour a whole lot of parasites, rationally it is possible a certain type of insect can be one of such too.
Can't the egg of such an insect be ingested through contaminated foods? thereby hatching in a hosts body?

It was a strange sight for the doctor, but it was actually a call for study to find out what really is and not conjure the absurd notion of juju to fill a gap of ignorance.

Even though the story seems very vague to me as the type of scan was not mentioned, the type of insect either i'd not touch that.

Now a world of advice from me
Believe what ever you want, juju/magic, jazz but any day you come to a hospital for diagnosis and the doctor says.

"Uuuhm young man i can't really find out what's wrong with you, its strange and i don't understand it, i think or strongly believe it must be juju"

Please my brother, take your shoes, dust them and run for your dear life..

My johnny, i still can't thank you enough for the wonderful work you are doing here to free our youth from religious indoctrination. The time and effort you take in de-indoctrination of our youth is enormous. We need our youths to use their time, energy and innovation to chart our future instead of wasting their time only on religious activities. You remind me of the legendary Tai Solarin, he was responsible for my own de-indoctrination in the early 80's.

Let me add my on opinion on this so called "insert in the body juju". Even though we do not have the full details of the diagnosis of the doctor, so we can know the type of insect and where they infected the body, insects infecting the human body is no big deal. My best friend once had a big insect and (larva of some sort of fly), removed from his skin, it was huge. I think fly larva infecting the skin is fairly common in Nigeria. As for fully grown insects like cockroaches and terminates, i do not know, but i do know that the human body is capable of labouring a large number of parasites.

If a qualified medical doctor (a scientist) actually saw strange insects in a patients body and just shouted "juju", then that doctor should have his license revoked. Even if he was not curious enough to actually obtain samples of the insects for further examination, he should have at least reported the strange case to the Federal ministry of health and the world health organization to stop further infestations. If the world (human body) is being invaded by alien insects or strange disease, that is how a Nigerian doctor will throw his hands up and shout juju.

[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=45375980]I hope this helps those accusing God of the immorality of killing the 'innocents'.

A basic knowledge of Canaanite culture reveals its inherent moral wickedness. The Canaanites were a brutal, aggressive people who engaged in bestiality, Inbreeding, and even child sacrifice. Deviant sexual acts were the norm. The Canaanites' sin was so repellent that God said, "The land vomited out its inhabitants" (Leviticus 18:25). Even so, the destruction (of human beings) was directed more at the Canaanite religion (Deuteronomy 7:3–5,12:2-3) than at the Canaanite people per se. The judgment was not ethnically motivated. Individual Canaanites, like Rahab in Jericho, could still find that mercy follows repentance (Joshua 2). God's desire is that the wicked turn from their sin rather than die (Ezekiel 18:31-32, 33:11).

Second, God is sovereign over all of life and can take it whenever He sees fit. God and God alone can give life, and God alone has the right to take it whenever He so chooses. In fact, He ultimately takes every person's life at death. It is not our life to begin with but God's. While it is wrong for us to take a life, except in instances of capital punishment, war, and self-defense, this does not mean that it is wrong for God to do so.

But didn't God also command the Israelites to kill non-combatants? The biblical record is clear that He did. Here again, we must remember that, while it is true the Canaanite women did not fight, this in no way means they were innocent, as their seductive behaviour in Numbers 25 indicates (Numbers 25:1–3). However, the question still remains: what about the children? This is not an easy question to answer, but we must keep several things in mind. First, no human person (including infants) is truly innocent. The Scripture teaches that we are all born in sin (Psalm 51:5; 58:3). This implies that all people are morally culpable for Adam’s sin in some way. Infants are just as condemned from sin as adults are.

PastorAIQ, please help me ask Mr olaadegbu the Objective morality in the above quotes, i am too appalled to debate the topic directly with him, i might get too angry angry and lose my cool.

What is the objective morality in him and his God sanctioning the killing of new borns because they are born condemned.

What is the objective morality in him and his God commanding his followers to take a life or lives because lives are not the property of the owner but of his God, so it is right to take it at the command of his God.

What is the objective morality in committing Genocide against other people because they have another religion.


Furthermore, ask what is the objective morality in making and bowing down in front of graven image? Almost all the population of the world make and bow down before one image or the other, be it a cross, a crucifix, other religious symbols, pictures of dead relatives, political and religious figures, etc.

What is the objective reality in keeping the Sabbath holy. Only the Jews ( and maybe seventh day Adventist) recognize the Sabbath (Saturday) as holy.

sammhi:
why can't the Govt deregulate this sector and let us rest..if they deregulate, then it is not their business to fix price....

If government deregulate petrol suddenly, i am sure the price would jump to over N180, as marketers would fix their prides according to exchange rate and international price of petrol, which depends on international price of crude.

sammhi:
pls stop linking 2012 to this...if the situation is right, we will accept it . but truth is the Lawyer spoke nothing but the truth.... why can't govt wait till 2018 when Dangote refinery take off?
my own take is : the increase is too high..I expected something like 100 Naira and gradual increase like OBJ did
also, the Govt has not been sincere all along.. too many lies..

What truth did the lawyer speak? Are you saying we should pack our cars and generators until Dangote's refinery takes off in 2018?

How can you expect a price of N100, when this time last year oil marketers were buying dollars at about N160, but now they buy the same dollar at N320 - N340. Naturally, we should expect petrol prices to be double what it was this time last year. Subsidy does not even come in yet, this is just simple exchange rate adjustments.

What do PDP and its allies actually want? I guess they want Buhari out of office at all cost, even if it means destroying the country including themselves in the process.
Buhari tries to avoid devaluation and pegs the naira at 197 for critical imports like fuel and medicine, the scream deregulate and devalue.

Buhari says, OK, oil marketers should source their dollars themselves and sell at a price of N145 because of the high cost of dollars in the open market, they shout, no buhari must sell petrol at the regulated naira price of N197.

When there is no petrol because marketers cannot import petrol at N320 to the dollar and sell at N84.5 for a litre, the protest, Buhari is a dullard because he cannot provide us petrol.

Now, how is buhari going to source for petrol, when;
The present 4 refineries cannot meet up to 30% of our daily needs, that if they are working to full capacity. ( we know all the refineries are down at the moment )

It will take at leat 2 years to build new refineries, that is if the government starts now, but we know refineries are not in this years budget.

The government does not have enough dollars to import all the petrol we require or to sell to independent marketers.That is why the government told them to source dollars themselves

Falana should explain how the government can source petrol at the cost of N84.5 without burning out megre foreign reserves and spending over 1 trillion naira on subsidies, money we do not have at the moment.

THIS PARADOXICAL QUOTE OF NIGERIAN RADICAL CLERGY,REV FR MATTHEW KUKAH MUST KEEP US THINKING

"Nigerian educational systems have surprising outcomes. The smartest students pass with First Class and get admitted to Medical and Engineering Schools. The Second Class students get MBAs and LLBs to manage the First Class students. The Third Class students enter politics and rule both the First and Second Class students. The Failures enter the Underworld of crime and control the politicians and businesses. And best of all, those who did not attend school become Prophets and Imams and everyone follows them. What a paradox of life. This can only happen in Nigeria where corruption is the order of the day."

- Bishop Matthew Hassan Kukah

JohnnieZM:
We all know Nigeria is corrupt but we don't need a David Cameron telling us that - gay punk...he should go and solve their exodus issue from the EU! Nigeria is corrupt yet they never reject or refund all our stolen fund stached in their banks. Nonsense. Why will one be calling a black goat dark black when the colour is obvious. PMB has been battling with corruption since May 29, 2015.
Let's for once leave sentiment and face reality. God bless Nigeria.

Cameron did not tell us that we are corrupt, he was telling the queen of England and the archbishop of canterbury. The quantity of stolen funds in their banks is the evidence Cameron relied on to say we are fantastically corrupt.

I wonder why Nigerian are making statements here and there with some even calling for apology from David Cameron. Did David Cameron make an official statement calling Nigeria corrupt? No! David Cameron was only having a private discussion and he only happened to give his private opinion. It was unfortunate a camera was eavesdropping and was able to capture the conversation. How can one apologize for an opinion? In the said conversation, the other people agreed wholly with Cameron's opinion, namely, the queen and the arch bishop, so should they also apologize for holding the same opinion also?

Amberon:
Yeah Yeah!!!

When these atheists finally die and find out about Christ, I wonder what they'd do.

I was not aware Noah had cranes, trucks, mechanical saws, steel joints, bolts, laminates and a large workforce.
Anyway, no problem. Show us this modern Noah's ark in water floating, first without any load, then with is load of a pair of over a million species of animals and a crew of about 6, their water and food supplies.

dankol:
[b]CHAPTER EIGHT
WORK OUT YOUR FREEDOM AT NAIRALAND
I finished my computer program. There is this cyber café beside the computer centre, where I had become so familiar and as soon as the guy managing it leant I was good to go with computer training, he spoke to his boss on my behalf to employ me to easy his burden. His boss agreed and we went to the agreement table. There I messed up. What happened? Alhaji told me, he would pay me 8k as a start to assist the guy. I was so glad but there are conditions.
1. You will be alternating with him for night browsing
2. You will be coming to work on Sundays after church
3. You close at work by 9pm when the other guy would come relieve you night browsing and viCe versa.


No 2 and 3 was my problem. The devil is a liar! Is this how he wants to get me? No way! Out-rightly I rejected the offer because, I had made up my mind long before now that, any work that will not give me time to go worship God, I would not do it no matter how juicy. You see how gullible I was then all because I have been brain washed by some persons to dedicate myself to God totally. That any work that does not give glory to God is from the devil. One assertion, I would like to make is, even the devil is glorifying God because he would not do anything without God’s approval. e.g. Job’s case. The devil is doing God’s will and he is a tool in God’s hand to wreak havoc on mankind (Ahab- Micaiah – the false prophets’ saga, I Kings 22: 19 -23). Is the devil not the father of all liars? Yes, he is, so, that demon was a cousin to the devil.


Now see the reply from one Christian website, “God chose to use a lying spirit because Ahab rejected God’s rebukes and warnings all through his life and the cup of God’s wrath was full. Since God is SOVERIGN over all creation, He is not RESTRICTED in what or whom He can use to accomplish his holy purpose, and He chooses to use people and spirits, both good and evil to bring his divine plans to pass…. The lying spirit will receive its punishment just as Ahab did.” This last statement got me cracking and I am tempted to say my mind here on God’s will but I promise to do that as a subject matter on its own. I will make reference to this portion. Mind you, the above statement is coming from a reputable Christian website. Though, I do know there are several versions of the answer but all agree on one thing, God is God can do as he wish with his creation. Gbam!

If Ahab was really God’s creation and God is all Powerful! With God NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE! Why would God descend so low to use a lying spirit to deceive his creation where on a better note, he could just turn the heart of Ahab to do the right thing. Write his law in his heart. Give him a new heart as he promised in Isaiah. More so, I laugh at the idea or rather theory of freewill being preached. Where is freewill here in the above scenario? Either for Ahab or the lying spirit? What happened there was a clear characteristics of dictatorship. You do my will, you live! You disobey, you die! The lying spirit that was used to effect the punishment would also be punished. Punished for helping to achieve a Holy purpose. What is holy in lying? Go and ask Daddy Kumuyi, if there is anything like holy lie? It is absolute rubbish! - for me.

Let’s be realistic here; If you as a creator of a robot and suddenly the robot began to do opposite of what you intend it to do and you have what it takes to make the robot do your wish. Would you rather destroy the robot or do the needful? Infact, several person I asked, if they had created a robot, would they have given it freewill to do as it wish? All of them confirmed, Negative. And to you dear reader, would you? The fact that, you just decide to create something out of nothing is sufficient ground to negate its freewill because, the creator has a reason, a purpose for doing that. And if such object or creation does not meet the requirement as expected. It is dismantled or destroyed or better still, re-created to meet specification. Go and watch the movie called “Enthiran” or “Robot” an Indian Science fiction film, then you will think twice about freewill. No sensible creator will give freewill to its creation. Its power, we are talking about here. If God had given freewill, he would not dispose Lucifer.
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Please pardon me, i just lost a bossom christian faithful friend whom has been on my neck to return to the fold. Why would God (if he really is) allow such a bright young mind leave this world on a ground of stomachache. i am seriously furious right now

Sorry for your loss, but it was not God himself/itself that allowed the bright young man to die. It is probably his belief in God that allowed your friend to die. If he had been a little bit more faithless, he would have seeked professional medical help sooner instead of praying and fasting over the stomach ache with the popular Christian declaration " i am strong". He most probably died of untreated typhoid infection which is very common and deadly(if left untreated) due to drinking pure (poor) water and eating in bukas.

onatisi:
I don't know why Nigerians are celebrating this article. In all honesty this is an article that Nigerians should be sad about. Yes ,agreed the profit margin is good and that is even only if the story is wholly true ,it seems the get rich syndrome in Nigerians is what is making ppl jumpy about this news .
A Nigerian has succeeded in dashing almost 10million naira to Cameroon, the Cameroonians will shake hands with us and turn round to make jest of us,no wonder Africans usually call Nigeria "big for nothing", Nigeria happens to be the" only country in the world that export everything that she needs but import everything that she has" how can a Nigerian be happy to invest 76 million naira to import tomatoes and yet Nigerians are happy!!!! A white man will shake his head in disbelief if he reads it. Nigeria has the land,the weather,the human labour and all that is needed to produce tomatoes in export quantities. No wonder dangote is getting richer and richer ,he has seen the huge potentials in Nigeria and he is continuously and continually exploiting them. The only positive I can derive from this article is the fact that there is massive market potentials for tomatoes in Nigeria and the local supply is not enough to satisfy the local demand talk less of exportation. Investing in tomatoes farming in Nigeria definitely wouldn't cost up to the 76 mil or 10mil naira to import tomatoes!!. Instead of Nigerians thinking and racking their brains about dashing Cameroon money,lets ppl come together and work in starting up tomatoes farms ,a poster mentioned something about green houses and things like that ,many readers didn't take notice simply because of the Nigeria factor of get rich quick,buy today sell tomorrow and make profit but it is time we start planing for 10 years or more .

You guys living abroad need to come home from time to time, you people seem to have lost touch with reality of the Nigerian situation.

The current tomato scarcity is an aberration. Tomato like other fruits and food commodities are seasonal, during the season there is a glut in the market and the price is very cheap, while during off season, the price often goes through the roof. Although tomato is often more expensive at the middle of the rainy season, it had never been this expensive. I am sure there are other extraneous factors responsible for this level of scarcity, some say it is the lack of rains during this season, others says Dangote has cleaned the available tomato from the market to feed his newly built tomato processing plant. It is the same situation with onions, palm oil, corn, plantain (the cost of plantain presently is outrageous), etc. During a glut, you can buy a small basket of onions at N200, but off season, you will buy a small onion at N100 each. During the season, i hear a basket of tomato is not more than N500 at the farms, but off season it can go as high as 6,000.

If you invest heavily in tomato farming now, by the time you harvest, there might be a glut in the market and might find it hard breaking even, after you consider the cost of harvesting, packing and transportation from the farms to the packaging areas and markets.

Ymodulus is just an opportunist, he saw an opportunity and is exploiting it. The opportunity might no be there in 3 month's time.

The problem is our present farming technology is archaic and does not allow all year farming.

Being an atheist in a religious fundamentalist country like Nigeria is very difficult. The society looks at you like you are the devil itself, it can lead to discrimination, hatred and sometimes physical harm.

On a personal level, life for the atheist can be lonely and hard, there is no body to blame failures on, you have to work hard for everything you achieve. There is no third party to draw inspiration from, you draw inspiration from within yourself. And there is no second chance, this life is all you have to make a difference.

A lot of atheists feel like cipher in matrix, they wish they took the blue pill.

Cypher: You know, I know this steak doesn't exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious. After nine years, you know what I realize?
[Takes a bite of steak]
Cypher: Ignorance is bliss

LadyExcellency:
Unfortunately, they are looking for places with Federal presence and those places you mentioned have none.

If I may ask, can I have the link to the poll you conducted for the alleged support for the Avengers.

Are you telling us there is no federal presence anywhere in the east? Are you saying there is no single oil installation, pipeline or fuel depot in the east? What about the oil wells in Imo, Abia and Anambra states? You can pin point the locations of these oil installations to Avenger to bomb, so that you people can have a taste of oil spillage and pollution.

You can infer the support of the east from the amount of celebrations each time they hear the news that Oil pipelines has been bombed by Avenger. Even the OP with the moniker EASTERNleopard is wholly in support of bombing the Niger delta as a form of sabotage. I am yet to see an easterner on nairaland condemn the bombings.

EasternLeopard:
Create A New Thread stating how the Avengers can achieve their demands without resulting to sabotage.

Let the world analyze your idea, cross check if it has been applied before and how it ended.

Be fast with it and tag me on the new thread.

i think Tonyebarcanista should change his mind on the use of sabotage by Avengers to achieve their demands, since most of our eastern brothers support their methods, but he should suggest that the Avengers bomb some infrastructures in the east like the Niger bridge and Aba Market, they should also cripple economic activities in the east too, so that their people can share in the sufferings and sacrifices of the struggle also.

OLAADEGBU:
I hope this helps those accusing God of the immorality of killing the 'innocents'.

Also see why atheists take the stand that they take against God. ==> https://www.nairaland.com/3024312/what-does-it-mean-when

How a human can justify genocide in the name of religion defies logic.

A basic knowledge of Canaanite culture reveals its inherent moral wickedness. The Canaanites were a brutal, aggressive people who engaged in bestiality, Inbreeding, and even child sacrifice. Deviant sexual acts were the norm. The Canaanites' sin was so repellent that God said, "The land vomited out its inhabitants" (Leviticus 18:25). Even so, the destruction (of human beings) was directed more at the Canaanite religion (Deuteronomy 7:3–5,12:2-3) than at the Canaanite people per se. The judgment was not ethnically motivated. Individual Canaanites, like Rahab in Jericho, could still find that mercy follows repentance (Joshua 2). God's desire is that the wicked turn from their sin rather than die (Ezekiel 18:31-32, 33:11).

The bolded part of the quote is the same excuse ISIS uses in the genocide against Yazidi tribe of northern syria that practices a different religion from ISIS. From ISIS perspective, the destruction of Yazidis is directed more at their religion.

Second, God is sovereign over all of life and can take it whenever He sees fit. God and God alone can give life, and God alone has the right to take it whenever He so chooses. In fact, He ultimately takes every person's life at death. It is not our life to begin with but God's. While it is wrong for us to take a life, except in instances of capital punishment, war, and self-defense, this does not mean that it is wrong for God to do so.

I am sorry to say, but the above quote shows you are mentally unstable. You are saying it is right for God (through his elect of course) to murder whole tribes and people because it is God that gives life. So how does this your God pass his message to you on which people you should murder?

But didn't God also command the Israelites to kill non-combatants? The biblical record is clear that He did. Here again, we must remember that, while it is true the Canaanite women did not fight, this in no way means they were innocent, as their seductive behaviour in Numbers 25 indicates (Numbers 25:1–3). However, the question still remains: what about the children? This is not an easy question to answer, but we must keep several things in mind. First, no human person (including infants) is truly innocent. The Scripture teaches that we are all born in sin (Psalm 51:5; 58:3). This implies that all people are morally culpable for Adam’s sin in some way. Infants are just as condemned from sin as adults are.

You are truly sick, i swear. If these are really christian values, then christianity should be banned from any decent human society.

iyamchee:
people born with mental disorders are not totally mad. talk of autism, asperger's syndrome and the rest. they have about over 60% control over their actions. people with mental disorders go to school, can talk to an extent where they can be heard and some even do business. they are not mad. some of them have killed people out of anger(buh they mostly dont get sent to jail because of their condition......shey you get?

A person certified mad means he has no control either partially or completely of his or her mental facilities, so they are not usually held liable for their actions (at least here on earth). A mental disorder can distort the difference between right and wrong in the mind of the sufferer. Are you saying such considerations are not considered in your Gods laws?

I have also been wondering about minors, are there minors in Gods laws? are Kids and teenagers responsible for their actions in God's kingdom? What is the age of responsibility, whereby people are sent to hell according to Gods laws? If a 12 year old lies or have sex and then dies, will she or he been sent straight to hell?

iyamchee:
they pay for the sins they commited before running mad

What of people born with mental disorders or autism?

iflywithbuhari:
Mr itsekiri leader, the president is already begging and bowing to the demands of the NDA. Just yesterday, he immediately put up a Trust fund for the Niger Delta.
www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/05/07/fg-moves-to-set-up-trust-fund-for-ndelta-as-undp-pledges-support-2/
So you see, pressure does work, so don't worry Mr Itsekiri leader, the NDA will pile on more pressure, and armtwist this president into doing everything the people of the Niger Delta people want him to do.

Where in the report did it state that the president is begging and bowing to the demand of the NDA? Show me where setting up a trust fund is one of the demand of NDA.
This is a quote from the article.

The Minister of Niger Delta Affairs, Usani Uguru Usani, who spoke while receiving the UN Resident/Humanitarian Coordinator and UNDP Resident Representative to Nigeria, Mrs. Fatma Samoura, in his office in Abuja, said as part of overall efforts to ensure the sustained development of the region, the federal government was on the verge of setting up a trust fund for the Niger Delta.

Although the minister did not divulge much information on the proposed trust fund, THISDAY gathered that the fund is being configured in a way that donor agencies, international oil companies (IOCs), local and multilateral international financial institutions and corporate entities will contribute to a pool of funds that would be deployed in developing the Niger Delta.

Please get someone to interpret the article you posted for you in your native language so you can comprehend what it states.

You are still looking for free amnesty largesse. You think Buhari is like Yaradua who bribed criminals instead of dealing with them.

You think piling pressure on the FG means blowing up pipelines and polluting destroying the environment and livelihood of the people. The disruption of activities will have far more effect on the communities, local and state governments than the FG. The states will get reduced allocations including derivation from its already low 24% share of the federation account, while the FG can borrow from abroad to augment its 52% share of the income.

ElCount:
You are funny, really you are
So your speculations are scientific but that of the creationist is magical, hmmm!
So meteors containing organic compounds and life starting from inorganic compounds are science-based but a belief in the existence of an Intelligent designer is magical?
I mean you exhibit even more faith believing in the big bang theory as well as abiogenesis than you can even imagine.

When I tell you by Faith that God created the world He owns it and He makes the rules and there's no need to prove His existence, you will quickly jump in and say its magic but yours is science even though its all speculations and yet you forgot that the way you just explained it is the way one would explain a Myth. Very classy

You are so ignorant, i really feel sorry for you.
Scientific speculations are based on interpretations of observable data. Scientist say speculations because there can never be 100% certainty as nobody was present to actually view and record the big bang or the primordial soup. They only have clues left by these events to work on.

Some scientists speculate that life might have been kick started on earth through meteors because meteorites that have been found on earth (including meteorites and comets studied in space) are found to contain organic compounds.

see this report;

The Significance of Organic Compounds in Meteorites
A meteorite is a solid body that has traveled through space and
impacted the Earth. These bodies vary in composition but common
constituents include rock, iron and nickel. Organic compounds have
also been found in meteorites and it has been postulated that
impacts on the early Earth may have delivered the molecules
necessary to start life.
- http://science.opposingviews.com/significance-organic-compounds-meteorites-4219.html

As for evidence of the big bang, a kind nairalander has already taken the effort to educate ignorant peoples like you, by explaining what the theory really means and evidences for it. Take advantage and learn something new.
- https://www.nairaland.com/3080255/physics-seun-understanding-scientific-theories#45221422


Your faith that the universe and life was spoken into existence by an old Jewish man from his throne is not speculation based on any thing, it is solely based on blind faith and wishful thinking.
Every society on earth also has it own blind faith explanation of the beginning of life and the universe, it is part of humans highly active imagination. Every unexplained phenomenon is attributed to a god. The moon, sun and planets were once gods, worshiped by millions of people. Thunder and lightning were once gods.

This statement of yours would qualify for the most senseless statement in history,
your said that, solely by your Faith your God created the world, He owns it and He makes the rules. You now paradoxically state that there's no need to prove His existence. This is even worse than the king wearing invisible cloths no one can see, except the tailor who made the cloths. At the end people will discover that the king is actually naked and the tailor had lied all along.

NaWetinDey:
In other words, you are stamping your feet on the ground that he is a drug addict...just because your darling Tiwa said so?
SMH

No wonder...

And you are stamping your feet on the ground that Tiwa's mother is indeed a witch and that Tiwa had slept with 2face, Dr. said, Don jazzy and probably the whole Marvin crew, because Teebillz said so?

ElCount:
That was a slip of the fingers you knew what I meant. Let me rephrase
How did life or rather all life forms originate or come into existence?

Nobody can really be sure, everyone is just speculating. But based on scientific reasoning, life (self duplication and sustenance) got started from simple inorganic compounds. Some even speculated life got kick started from outer space thought meteors containing organic compounds. One explanations i am certain is wrong is that life was started by a Jewish old man, using Hebrew words (which ironically is his begotten son) to magically poof all life ( from virus to mammals and from fungi to plants) into existence all at once.

Pidggin:
Goodluck Ebele Jonathan is the best president our country has ever had

Because he used our money to the send a dozen girls to the Philippines ( a country Nigeria is better than) when he could have used the money to upgrade and equip our own maritime academy? Maybe Buhari should close the maritime academic Oron and send all the students there to the maritime academy in Angola.

MrPresident1:
My friend, I am not an expert in the Koran, but I can provide you guidance to liberate your mind from Bible ignorance.

That said, the Koran, the Hindu scriptures and the text for many other religions were written by black/Negro men, they are all the Gospel of God, they are all ways to God if rightly interpreted. But my forte is the Bible and I can help you if you are willing to approach with an open mind, if you are truly interested in knowing God, IF YOU ARE READY TO BE CIVILISED, THE WORD OF GOD IS THE CIVILISER OF MANKIND. .

The Word of God is the breathe of God, it is this word of God in you that differentiates you from a beast.

Can you present one or two of your 'Scientific' facts that show that the Bible and science are irreconcilable?

I can present hundreds but here are a few;
Your bible says man is made from inorganic compounds - dust (mainly silicon), but science says man is made of organic compounds (mainly carbon)

Your bible says one rib was taken from man to make woman, meaning, men should have 23 ribs and woman should have only one rib, but science says birth man and woman has 24 ribs.

You bible says a talking snake talked to eve, science says snakes do not have the larynx for human speech, they can only make hissing sound.

Your bible says Noah built a wooden ark capable of holding and sustaining a couple (some say 7) of over a million species of all land animals over a sustained period of time ( over 6 months), science says it is a physical, logistical and logical impossibility. In addition, i would like to asked bible believers, what happened to the plants, Was there another botanic Noah that saved the plants as all the plants would have died submerged in salt water for that length of time. Then after alighting from the ark, what did Noah and all the saved animals feed on?

The bible says the sun and moon stood still but science says it is an impossibility.