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HardMirror:
Remember this is a true life story, everything I say here is the absolute truth, only thing I have not revealed is my name, because I am still a legend in Anglican student fellowship till date, not just in futa but the whole state as I once held a state executive position.

I got to the room where she was (the president's room) there were 3 people praying for this sister. She was wringling on the floor like worm with salt poured on it. The prayer warriors were sweating and visibly tired. I got there sat down and bent over to hold her hands. Immediately I held her hand, she started screaming, but was still crying. She was behaving like someone with the spirit of pyton in her.
I started speaking in tongues. For about 30mins she was still wringling.
I shock her up, asked everybody to stop praying.
I commanded her to stop and open her eyes.
She obeyed. I asked her to seat on the other chair in the room. I could see surprise in her eyes. I repeated my instruction and she obey.
I told her whoever the spirit sets free is free indeed and God has told me she was free. That no matter what she tot, she is already free. I asked everyone to start praising God.

Now this case was peculiar. Why? I learnt something key that day. Once a human sees you as superhuman, they believe anything you tell them and people can be overwhelmed by the presences or words of people they think are directly linked with God.
If I kept praying she would have kept twisting on the floor. But I commanded the nonesense to stop and it stopped. This is not very far from how hypnotism works.
Your subject has to be highly impressionable.
This is most likely what TB joshua knows. Once you see him as an ordinary human, his words won't have any effect on you. But the moment you buy into the whole facade and open your mind to be impressionable, you will end up responding to everything such a man says and end up misbehaving

The parts i bolded are the secrets of the so called men of gods. They use all kinds of methods to make their believers submit their will to them, then they set about fleecing them of their possessions and money and sometimes their bodies (the ladies).

The fact that you understand the methods of mind control and you did not exploit it to become a "man of god" shows you are a man of integrity and conscience. You could have easily set up your own ministry and have thousands worship you with tithes and offerings and then live extravagant lifestyle.

This your thread is a service to humanity, it will open many people's eyes and free them from the shackles of the control of hypnotists disguising as men of gods.

Strawman:
Nothing you type on Nairaland will alter anybody's religious beliefs even in the slightest.

Just saying...

That is where you got it wrong. Nairaland has changed many peoples religious beliefs, many people have abandoned religion altogether because of Nairaland, including the founder - Seun. Nairaland provides avenue for people to come out of the closet and question religious dogma they have been indoctrinated with since childhood.

It is alleged that Atiku, Tinubu and Amaechi were the main contributors to buhari's election. Of the 3 only Amaechi was a public official, Tinubu and Atiku were private citizens. Except you can prove that money was channeled through them from office of the NSA, NNPC, CBN and other government agencies to fund Buhari's election, then they have no case.

On the other hand there are tons of evidence that Jonathan's campaign was funded directly from public money from public officers. He converted federal purse to PDP's treasury and doled out money at will for electioneering purposes. The financial trail is evident and the confessions are available.
Get the same concrete evidence in Amaechi's case before you can talk.

Sammyashol:
Read my last post again and if you don't get it, this is what i wrote Till we put aside our political difference and unite as one nation. We can't achieve any thing, and i don't think we can for now.

Mind you i don't do politics, all i care about is the interest of the common man and a better Nigeria.

Thanks for being here

And you think we can put our political, tribal and religious differences aside if the military takes over?
We have tried Parliamentary system of government, it failed. We tried military dictatorship, it also failed and we tried and still trying Presidential Democracy, it is not working. What does these tell you? The problem is not the system of government, it is in the people. Until the Nigerian and indeed the Blackman can attain a higher level of spiritual consciousness and lay less emphasis on selfish material acquisition and show genuine selfless love for others and the society at large, no system of government will work.

Wailers must wail. Buhari would complete his elected term and there is nothing wailers aka PDP and IPOB can do about it.
What so called violation has buhari done that Jonathan or obasanjo did not do? What problem are we facing under buhari that was not there during Jonathan's tenure. Why did you not call for military coup during Jonathan's to time?

So who should be head of state after a military take over - an Igbo officer ? I laugh in biafran language.

LRNZH:
[b]Unfortunately, the 'Fulani herdsmen' issue has been around since OBJs government as I remember. That was when the grading reserve bill reared its head.

The issue is that the Fulani's have been migrating further south due to the encroachment of the Sahara desert over the years. Their gradual southward migration has led to more interaction with farming tribes of the middle belt and southern Nigeria and with this comes violence as they struggle to grab more land for their cattle. Some don't even return to the north anymore.

The issue like many of Nigeria's issue is a complex one and needs both short and long term solutions. Just like corruption, Boko Haram, Niger Delta militancy, fuel scarcity, lack of electricity, unemployment, herdsmen attacks are all symptoms of a non functional country.

I await to see how the current government will address the issue on the long run because unleashing soldiers on the hersdsmen is a short term solution (same for Niger Delta militancy and Boko Haram). That won't be enough.

As for OP, he is just reacting emotionally to an issue that requires a lot of level headed thinking. Any political analyste worth his weight knows that supporting PDP or APC is not even the issue here. Buhari's reaction if you're following the developments now is even swifter than GEJ against Boko Haram calling them his brothers. More people were dying daily that period

Two wrongs cannot be mutually justified and no death from violence can ever be proven worthy so partisanship is not what we should be taking about.

We should be focused on how to get to a mlre feasile solution. I'm my head, don't see how the grazing reserve wil work unless the 19 northern states come.together and agree on how to manage the reserves with staes have the final eight to opt-in or out of the reserves.

Such optional reserves will force the Fulani to become less nomadic and more domesticated thereby increasing the likelihood that he will look into alternative means of growing feed for his cattle. That should should lead to better interactions with Farmers who can sell him hay or feedstock and to modernisation of cattle rearing practises.

Just like the oil spills in the ND, soil erosion in the SE, the desertification of the North is a disaster that needs to be tackled.

Others may have better ideas. Please bring them on. APC vs PDP is not the solution.

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God bless you my brother, you are one of the few people that thinks dispassionately about this Fulani herdsmen menace instead of using it as an excuse to criticise buhari. Fulani herdsmen menace has been a problem for decades, we are only reacting now because the problem has extended across the Niger. Jonathan in his nearly 6 year reign was oblivious to Fulani herdsmen ravaging most of the middle belt states and some south eastern states, so the Fulani herdsmen had free reign during Jonathan's regime. Buhari has just been there for a little less than a year, so i expect we should give him some time to solve the Fulani herdsmen problem.
I agree that the grazing reserve proposal is a no no, no community should concede their ancestral lands to foreigners in the name of grazing reserves and besides how can you ensure the herdsmen remain confined to the invisible boundaries of the reserves. If the northern leaders want reserves for their people, they should provide it for them in the north.

Fighting nomads, with no stable abode, no family and no valuable property is very difficult. They can attack you in your sleep and disappear into the deep jungle or wilderness. Pursuing them into the jungle can be a suicidal venture because the peoples cannot live and survive in the jungle for days and weeks, while the Fulani herdsmen can. Even in the bible, the nomadic invaders almost always win the battle, because they come, burn, rape, kill and steal and then disappear.
So the governor's of all the southern states must come together and put politics aside to compel the Buhari led administration to provide security and protection from Fulani herdsmen. The governor's are powerless as far as security gives and has to rely on federal institutions like the police, army, DSS, etc for security.

When Fulani herdsmen were ravaging igboland during Jonathan's rule, did IPOB youth ask Jonathan to resign?

Fear grips Enugu community as Fulani herdsmen kill 2 teenagers ON AUGUST 18, 2012
Residents allege other criminal acts Fulani herdsmen recently unleashed mayhem at Nimbo, a peace-loving community known for its abundant agricultural produce in Uzo-Uwani Local Government Area of Enugu State after the barbaric killing of two teenage-students, who were helping their parents in a farm work. Residents of the area alleged that the herdsmen who settled in the forest of the community for long, had been robbing, harassing and raping women at farmlands and on Nsukka–Adani Expressway after which they retire to the forest posing as cattle-rearers. Before the killing of the teenagers who were identified as Thadeus Utazi, 17, JS111 and Okeh Michael, 19, SSII, the Fulani herdsmen had on different occasions, allegedly carried out broad day light robbery with sophisticated weapons on the road without fear of being intercepted by security agents stationed at Adani and Nsukka Police Area Commands. They were also reportedly armed with sharpened machetes and arrows during their operation.

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/08/fear-grips-enugu-community-as-fulani-herdsmen-kill-2-teenagers/

The answer is no. He became their hero, because he is one of them.

When Fulani herdsmen were ravaging the whole of the middle belt under Jonathan, did IPOD ask Jonathan to resign?

Fulani herdsmen attack 9 villages in Plateau state -July 7, 2012
Twenty people were killed while several houses got burnt when nine villages in Riyom and Barkin Ladi local government areas of Plateau state were attacked on Saturday morning by suspected Fulani herdsmen.



The attacked villages include: Berom villages of Kakuruk, Kuzen, Ngyo, Kogoduk, Ruk, Dogo, Kufang, Kpapkpiduk, and Kai in Gashishi district of Barkin Ladi local government area

The attackers according to Channelstv sources were about one hundred and they stormed the villages in a commando style dressed in black attire with bullet proof vests and sophisticated weapons. http://www.channelstv.com/2012/07/07/fulani-herdsmen-attack-9-villages-in-plateau-state/

No, they were busy chanting GEJ till 2019.
Jonathan's was there for six years, he did not do anything about Fulani herdsmen, but Under less than one year of buhari administration, they want him to resign because of the same Fulani herdsmen.

Jesusloveyou:
they wil be charge for anything, like fuel ranketeer or fuel black marketeer, above all for economy sabotage, fuel diver
https://www.nairaland.com/politics

Someone goes to petrol station with 5 litre jerrycan to by petrol for his tiger generator and you are talking about racketeering and economic sabotage. Please explain the connection. How will you prove that buying fuel to run your home or office amounts to economic sabotage?

Malawian:
is there a valid law that criminalizes buying fuel in galons? or is our law enforcement agents now making laws for us? abeg, who this country never tire?

Thank you my brother. I am not aware of any law by the national assembly criminalizing buying and selling of petrol in ferry cans. Is Arase now taking over the responsibility of the legislature? If they are arrested, under what charge will they be charged to court. Or will the police simple collect "bail" and ask the police"offenders" to go?

lafakale:
My question is why did someone who left Benin for Sapele came back and did not go back to her house but went to an hotel to lodge? The hotel management should tell the police for how long they have checked in before her death

I suspect there was an indecent proposal in the deal between the pastor and the lady. They were both certain that no other person would find out.

Abel202:
My Dear, if am the husband, read my lips - No pastor or whatever he calls himself can kill my wife under such circumstances and go free. No, not at all. He will be served in his own coins - this I can assure you. And no, he can't eliminate me. I would do things my own way, but I must get the result I want, within a specified space of time.
Trying to get justice is not chasing shadows. If am the husband, that pastor will either rot in Jail or never see the light of day again. Go figure out what that means..

To get the pastor to rot in jail, the husband would have to prove murder or manslaughter. To prove murder in this case will be very difficult, as the lady followed the pastor willingly to the hotel room as shown by the security cameras. To prove murder, you will have to prove motif and show murder weapon. If it can be established through toxicology reports that she had drugs in her body and can be proven that the drugs was administered by the pastor, then manslaughter might be proven.

2n2k:
That is not how most hotel doors work. The door once shut can either be opened from inside using the lever but from outside by using only the key. Thus you can lock yourself out if you don't have the key on you. If the lady had double-locked the door from inside, even the spare key couldn't have opened it from outside.

So, it was the pastor that shut the door.

You are right. The lady probably died while the pastor was with the lady. But unless the autopsy report shows trauma or lethal drugs in her body, a crime would difficult to establish. Negligence on the part of the pastor yes, but murder, no.

MirabelArode:
Oga listen very carefully, you and your family members can pack to join the yorubas muslims but we Itsekiris will be with our brothers in Biafr*. yorubas that can defend themselves against fulanis will use itsekiri as shield and God forbid in oduduwa. We Itsekiris are Biafr*ns.

Stay in your land across the Niger and stop eyeing other peoples land and oil. All Itsekiri leaders have sounded it loud and clear - Biafrans (Igbos), keep off Itsekiri lands.

Itsekiri nation disowns calls for creation of Biafra Republic
WARRI—THE Itsekiri ethnic nationality of Warri, Delta State, has dissociated itself from the calls for creation of a Biafra Republic out of Nigeria as being drummed by some Igbo interest groups in the South-East. The Itsekiri Leaders of Thought, ILT, expressed the group’s concern over the Igbo agitation yesterday in a statement by its Chairman, Pa Johnson Ayomike and Secretary, Edward Ekpoko. The body is disturbed that the proposed Biafra Republic as widely reported in the social media includes the whole of Delta State. The statement stressed: “We recall with pains the day the defunct Biafran Army invaded Warri and Benin in the then Midwest Region on August 9, 1967. Never again will the Itsekiri tolerate such invasion.

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/10/itsekiri-nation-disowns-calls-for-creation-of-biafra-republic/

MirabelArode:
Today you want out, tommorrow they are attacking Kanu for the fulani. I as an Itshekiri will worship the ground kanu walks on. Sensible Itshekiris will have nothing to do with yorubas. You yorubas just want our oil. We are Biafr*ns.

You are no tsekiri, no true Itsekiri man or woman spells Itsekiri as Itshekiri. Itsekiris don't know Kanu not to talk of worshiping him. If Itsekiris have nothing to do with Yorubas, who do we have something to do with, - Igbos? Itsekiri share similar language with Yorubas just as Anioma shares similar language with Igbos.
Which oil do you have? Name your community in Warri ton prove you are Itsekiri.

Itsekiris had never been Biafrans and would never be. Carry you Biafra to Igbo Land

dearpreye:
Focus on the Senator representing YOU. He must not take emoluments for nothing.

Then My "common sense" should carry him common sense revolution to his constituency and stop disturbing Nigerians. He should make comment only about issues affecting Bayelsa.

lofty900:
Nothing like justice in this case, only karma! Married woman who abandoned her husband to sleep with pastor in a hotel deserves what ever that comes to her. Sadly, even with the cctv footage, nothing can be proved in a competent court of jurisdiction. The footage didn't show how he strangled her only shows how she was following him about. The rate at which women fall prey to pastors is alarming. Men hardly falls for such

You are right, the fact that the door was locked from inside proves, the lady opened the door for the pastor to go out, locked the door and went back to sleep. At least the door could not have locked itself. The fact that the pastor came back to inquire as to the whereabouts of his lover shows he too could not get through to her and wanted to know if she left the hotel.
This look like a simple case of heart attack.

The way christian pastors defend and support eachother in wrongdoings is uncanny.

Of what use is the petition? Is Nigeria the 51st state of the United States of America? Is it US courts that will try crimes committed in Nigeria? What happened to the Governors, House of reps members and Senators you elected, cant you people petition them.

Furthermore why did you guys not petition UK and China when under the Jonathan Government 16 MASSOB members were killed and 83 injured as security operatives raid MASSOB offices - https://www.nairaland.com/956515/16-massob-members-killed-83.

KingEbukasBlog:
1.From the Laws of Thermodynamics

First Law: The total amount of mass-energy in the universe is constant.
Second Law: The amount of energy available for work is running out, or entropy is increasing to a maximum.

2. The universe is expanding not into space, but space itself is expanding.

3. The Beginning of Time - Stephen Hawking

4. Also, the universe cannot be self existent - nothing can create itself, because that would mean that it existed before it came into existence, which is totally absurd .

Like Mbatuku2 asked, what has your God has to do with the laws of thermodynamics or any other physical laws for that matter. I thought you people said your god is not bound to any law.

It seems you do not understand the import of the laws of thermodynamics. The first law states The total amount of energy in a closed system is constant ( we assume mass is also a form of energy). Since we assume the universe is a closed system, it therefore mean the amount of energy in the universe has always been the same. This is why we say energy can neither be created nor destroyed.

The second law of thermodynamics states, that there is a natural tendency of any isolated system to degenerate into a more disordered state. This means entropy (amount if energy unavailable to do work) increases.

While first law of thermodynamics deals with quantity of energy, the second law deals with quality of energy.


In your statement above just substitute God for the universe and you will reach the same conclusion;
The Universe God cannot be self existent - nothing can create itself, because that would mean that it existed before it came into existence, which is totally absurd .

1. Its actually logical . If the intelligent designer is not eternal then it progresses into infinite regression . We will be asking absurd questions like who created the creator and who created the creator's creator . So God is eternal

Here also substitute the word God or intelligent designer with the universe and you will still reach the same conclusion;
Its actually logical . If the intelligent designer the universe is not eternal then it progresses into infinite regression . We will be asking absurd questions like who created the creator and who created the creator's creator . So God the Universe is eternal

2. Philosophically : For everything to exist , an all - some sort of a infinite container - must be eternal . God is an ALL in ALL .

3. Faith . This is needed if you want to please God . The bible exhorts us to believe God through Faith

Wrong philosophical premise, so wrong philosophical conclusion.

The Bible's description of YHWH is overwhelmingly logical . And fits best as the true God - the eternal conscious creator .

a.He is eternal
b.He created the physical universe and its constituents - time , space , matter
c.He is an embodiment of morality - a law giver

There are so much that I can't indite now



Yeah and that's why Jesus entreated his disciples to spread the gospel . In the OT , we can see God punishing the Israelites when they depart from their belief in Him and worshiping other gods .

The rest is just religious indoctrination by conquerors and colonialists with no base in logic or reality. It is a ploy by all conquerors to subjugate inferior or conquered peoples to make them more malleable for exploitation. This was stated by the Roman empire in ancient Rome and perfected by the British and spanish in modern British and Spanish empires.
Peoples conquered by Arabs are also forcefully indoctinated to accept Arabic God and philosophy.

SolutionsGuy:
The United States yesterday said immediate past president, Goodluck Jonathan, did not show political will in putting an end to Boko Haram insurgency that ravaged the country for several years.

The country also revealed that corruption in the Jonathan-led administration denied Nigeria its support in the war against Boko Haram at the height of the insurgency.

The US ambassador to the United Nations, Ambassador Samantha Power, made the revelation at the American University of Nigeria, during a visit to round off her visit to IDPs camps in Adamawa state.

She disclosed that the US government was monitoring the political will of Nigeria then to tackle the insurgency, but was not convinced of the country’ seriousness due to the corrupt tendencies that were associated with the issue of those fighting the insurgency.

She however noted that President Muhammadu Buhari had so far shown seriousness in tackling the scourge.

“But, when the Muhammadu Buhari-led Federal Government came on board, the US recognised his full commitment to stop the insurgency and the anti-corruption crusade. The US has no alternative than to back the present administration.

“The US, as part of our new resolve and commitment is now training a battalion of soldiers that will soon return home to face the insurgents headlong. The battalion will be a high performing one equipped with the American terrorism combat and techniques on their return,” she said.

She also disclosed that President Buhari had received needed intelligence for the rescue of the abducted Chibok schoolgirls, and commended Nigeria, Chad, Cameroon and Niger under the auspices of the Lake Chad Commission for their collaborative effort in combating the Boko Haram insurgents.

“The United States acknowledged the seriousness of these countries in their combined efforts against terrorism and it is paying off now.”

While announcing a donation of $40 million to help Boko Haram victims, the envoy disclosed that although the US was investing in the security aspect of Nigeria, it was not involved in combating Boko Haram.

Power called on the soldiers to protect liberated towns so as to allow returnees start a fresh life.

Recall that top military and security officials that served in the Jonathan administration are currently under investigation for the misuse of funds meant for the procurement of arms in the fight against insurgents.

The former national security adviser, Sambo Dasuki, has been in detention since November 2015 for his role in the misappropriation of $2.1 billion.


http://leadership.ng/news/520987/jonathan-showed-no-political-will-fight-boko-haram-us-envoy

But Fayose and his supporters said it was Amaechi that wrote the US government not to support the jonathan's administration in the fight against corruption. So who is lying between Fayose and US ambassador?

dazzle101:
Hahahahaha boko haram, isis, alqueeeda or howeva it's spelt! U didn't even understand the basis for the post rather than ask for clarity you take d stance of zeus...


Now, whether you understand my post or not I'm not here to make you! So if God doesn't exist, why did his belief seem outrageous to just about everyone who heard him speak!

Please take a long shot, I'm not big on who believes in what or not, you all have a right of choice and it's all up to you, now that's my take!!!

So don't bother me no more!

Why don't you do us a favour and explain the basis of the post. The OP said he was almost lynched for expressing his non belief in God and you say i do not understand the basis of the post.
His beliefs seem outrageous to everyone who heard him speak just like your religious belief would seem outrageous in an ISIS dominated crowd, the same way Hindu beliefs would appear outrageous to a christian dominated crowd and the same way the belief that God begot a son who is in fact himself seem outrageous to a Muslim dominated crowd. The fact that a certain belief seem outrageous to a particular crowd does not justify hatred and intolerance, that is the very definition of fanaticism.

You lie when you say you are not big on who believes in what. You exhibit hatred for Muslims, Pagans, Hindus and especially atheists. I am sure you you think converting them to your religion or eliminating them altogether would be a religious obligation.

dazzle101:
Hahaha good for you! And to think all for some imaginary being you were almost mobbed!

So u neither blv in God nor satan, neither here nor there Oya clap for yourself!!! Keep believing in nothingness, I wish you luck!!!


P:S-. You have been given this one life to seek the truth, so really look for the truth it's out there somewhere but to believe in nothing that's a serious joke!!!

So because he neither believes in God nor Satan, he should be mobbed and killed?
How does his believing in nothingness or somethingness affect your life?

Last, time i checked freedom of religious beliefs or non belief is a fundamental human right.

No difference between the people that almost mobbed the OP, this commentator (dazzle101) and Boko Haram or ISIS.

IdomaLikita:
You Guyz are Stunning! ( JohnnyDon most especially)
Wirinet, Where have you been na?

My brother, i am been very busy with the basic task of survival in Nigeria. I hardly have time for work and family not to talk of social media. I browse through nairaland from time to time and occasionally make comments. I am happy that humanists like yourself and Johnydon has taken off where i and a few others stopped at enlightening our youth on the need to embrace scientific reasoning as opposed to religious dogma and fundamentalism. Religious fundamentalism is a dangerous weapon in the hands of the youth as shown by ISIS and christian fundamentalists.

Well done Johnydon22, i commend you once again for your effort at educating Nigerian youth on modern science. I hope your efforts will inspire young nigerians to embrace science and help contribute to the development of Nigeria and Humanity as a whole.

To the OP and his likes;
Do you even have the faintest idea of the concepts you are asking about -Big Bang and Biological evolution?
You guys have a very wrong notion of the Big Bang Theory and not ready to do the hard work to learn. You guys are just trying to justify your religious dogma by shooting down scientific concepts that contradicts your beliefs.

For you to understand the Big Bang Theory, you will need to understand the proof of the expansion of the universe through Red Shift Measurements of distant Objects. You will also need to read up on the father of modern astronomy, Edwin Hubble, who actually showed proof that the universe is expanding. Read up on various other proofs of the expanding universe like the cosmic background radiation.

Now please answer this question, Do you accept that the universe is expanding? If you answer yes, then you must also accept that it must have started out quite small. The start of this expansion or inflation is what is generally known as the Big Bang.If you do not believe that the universe is expanding, then we have nothing to discuss.
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KingEbukasBlog:
The universe indeed had a beginning and a cause . The creator is also eternal . So your argument is a specious one and is totally invalid

"If .. " - we are talking of a God who is currently existing now so its not debatable .

Plus with the logic of God and everything even if the universe is eternal it does not preclude the existence of God . The universe could be seen as part of God - this is called Panendeism - and God is eternal . That means we have the universe as being part of a separate conscious entity

And please dont take my latter statement too seriously

What is your proof that the universe had a beginning and a cause and what evidence do you have of an intelligent designer creator that is eternal?

Which God are you talking about and where is he existing now. No matter the God you subscribe to, his existence has been debatable since the dawn of time. Even the Christian bible contains people who does not subscribe to the Hebrew God - YHWH.

I answered this your intelligent designer issue way back in 2012. Please refer to this thread created by me
https://www.nairaland.com/915300/chance-intelligent-design-creation

If the intelligent designer does not require another intelligent designer, then why would the universe require an intelligent designer.
If the intelligent designer is eternal and always existed, why can't the universe be eternal.
If the intelligent designer can spring forth from nothingness, why can't the universe spring forth from nothingness.

If you will only accept made in Nigeria SUV, why not tell saraki to exchange yours for innoson SUV or better still sell your SUV and buy innoson of the same specification. It seems Ben Bruce is not concerned about the cost of the SUVs, only where it is made.

Me too, i will not buy his book until it is printed in Nigeria.

Adam and Eve were not meant to live forever, because god drove them from Eden before they had the chance to eat from the tree of life. The were only opportuned to eat from the tree of knownledge which turned them from zombies into knowledgeable beings.

GWMI:
Even if it is costly in Nigeria, it is for the best that we have senate house.APC's tyrany will just get worst if we scrape the Senate.One advice instead is to ban elders from running the affairs of this nigeria.I have seen over the years that the major problem of the Nigeria's political class is the Hypocratic Elders we have.The Elders council are the most corrupt, Hypocritic and worst of all shameless e.g AREWA CONSECUTIVE FORUM,NORTERN ELDERS FORUM,OHANEZE faction supporting the bias Buhari,UPU faction supporting the bias Buhari.So my only advice here is scrap the hypocric houuse of Elders Councils in Nigeria.Ban Elderly politicians like Buhari,matima Sule,Dambazzau,Danjuma,Anenih and other hypocrites this we save us some cost and will stop some misleading.Thanks.

But the youth have not fared better in terms of corruption and hypocrisy, it was the youth that earnestly asked for Abacha. Youthful politicians like Farook Lawan, Labaran Maku and Dimeji Bankola were as corrupt as the elders. Youth organizations like NANS suffer the same disease as any other organization.

cardoctor:
Senegal. What a poor country. Nigeria just spent N3.6 billion to buy just cars for the senate. NIGERIA IS "STINKING" RICH.

Which stinking rich? They are spending our collective wealth. If you divide the money we earn by our population, you will find we are not richer than Senegal.

nairalandbuzz:
One thing you all need to understand is that... both lower and upper house that are doing check and balance are not competent enough let alone dissolving one chamber at a go..

my one cent...

For Presidential and Vice Posts: Minimum of Masters in any field + MBA.
For Governors: Minimum of Bsc + MBA
For Local Govt: Minimum of HND
For Council Chairmen: Minimum of OND
For Ministers: Minimum of PHD
For Senators and d likes : Minimum of MBA

These ppl must know what they are being sent to do na...
else, na rubbish anyone wey go there go dey do...

You must be a degree holder with an MBA , that is why you advocate for people with your qualifications only to aspire tor the highest political positions in the land. What of people with OND, HND, Post graduate diploma and other diplomas, they should not aspire to serve their country as president or governor? You are saying they should not be hire in top management positions.
What concerns MBA with political office? I even thought you will say Political science, Social studies or even history.

There is no direct correlation between political, business or social success with the type of academic degree. We have had many successful politicians and entrepreneurs and other people without university degrees.
Here is a list of US presidents without university degrees;

George Washington (The death of his father ended Washington's formal schooling; however, he believed strongly in formal education. In his will, he left money and/or stocks to support three educational institutions.[1])
Andrew Jackson
Martin Van Buren
William Henry Harrison (attended college but never received a degree)
Zachary Taylor
Millard Fillmore (founded the University at Buffalo, The State University of New York)
Abraham Lincoln (had only about a year of formal schooling of any kind)
Andrew Johnson
Grover Cleveland
William McKinley (attended Allegheny College (did not graduate) and Albany Law School (did not graduate)
Harry S. Truman (went to business college and law school but did not receive a degree)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_education

Even in the area of business, over half of the world's richest men are without university degrees.