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Good gesture by Fayose, but when will he distribute salaries to civil servants, we were told salaries had not been distributed for six months now. What about roads and health services, these need to be distributed in ekiti too. in fact governance need to be distributed in ekiti.
Now, about this stomach infrastructure, how are the yams distributed? Is every Ekiti indigene entitled to one tuber of yam or it is only for PDP members? How do people qualify to received the yams, is it by lottery. How many yams are budgeted for distribution?
Is yam the only element of this stomach infrastructure program? What of ingredients to cook the yams? What of kerosene to cook the yam ( which may actually be more expensive than the yam itself). The people cannot eat raw yam.

Ngozi123:
It seems that you have an agenda... I gave you an example of one of the groups that include people from the South-South, who are campaigning for a referendum. I used the Lower Niger Delta Congress as an example as they are the most prominent of the groups demanding for a referendum; there are others- do you really need me to spoon feed you all of them? I also find it rather disrespectful that you would relegate a group that has been invited to UN functions as something that was coined by 'a few Biafrans in their rooms', perhaps I should rake it as an unintended compliment. I suppose you could say something similar about Nigeria, seeing as it was a term coined by the girlfriend of some British aristocrat... If you'd really done some research on the group as you had claimed then you would know that the main goal of the group is to achieve self-determination, within or without the confines of Nigeria, meaning that it is not a Biafra-centred group. This is stated very clearly on their webpage so either you don't know how to use an Internet search engine or you're just a liar.

I don't need to apologise to anyone as I didn't even make any mention of the South-South soldiers who fought for Nigeria. Why should I apologise to a people I didn't insult?

This is what I said:
"it would be disrespectful to disregard the minority soldiers that fought and died for Biafra by claiming that it is only for the Igbos."

Now, let's compare that to what you said:
"The fact that 100 or even 1000 non Igbo south south people fought on the side of Biafra dies [does] not mean anything."

Who insulted whom?

Arguing with you people is like arguing with a prerecorded message. Arguing with a person under hypnosis is better. I told you your fabled Niger Delta Congress does not exist outside social media and newspapers, instead of you to provide me with a physical contact orj at least their website, you are here fuming and claiming Niger delta congress is the most"prominent" Niger delta group asking for referendum. Maybe they are prominent in Aba or Onitsha, but in warri, Benin, yenagoa, portharcourt and other prominent south south cities, no one has seen or heard of them.
Since you are a member for this "prominent" group, do us a favour and link us to their website. I am interested to know when and how this group was formed, who are the leaders and their membership base, their aims and objectives and their offices around the federation and abroad.

While at it, list other less " prominent' groups of the South South that asks for a referendum to secede from nigeria with the Igbos.

Ngozi123:
Several groups are demanding a referendum, the Lower Niger Congress, for example, have clearly stated that they want a referendum to be conducted in the South-South and South-East. They have members from both regions; you should look it up if you doubt me. As for your last point, I've already explained to you what is meant by the term 'B.iafra is not for Igbos alone' so I don't understand why you keep parroting this line; if they express their desire to join us if/when a referendum is being conducted then they can, if not, they can go their own and and we will go ours.

I also think that you should apologise for completely disregarding those B.iafran soldiers from minority tribes who fought and died for their country- you claim to be from the South-South and claim to be fighting for the people of the South-South yet you choose to disrespect a significant part of its populace so callously. I wonder if this whole stance is just a ruse to persuade them to stay with your region becoming a non-entity in Nigeria. Hmm...

Where are the several groups demanding referendum? So lower Niger congress has become several groups? I looked up Lower Niger congress and there is very little information, no website, no contact address, nothing. It seem it was coined by a few Biafrans in their rooms.
The Lower Delta congress is the same as Biafra. It is certainly an Idea by Biafrans to co-opt the south south into their secession agenda, as most south south people hate the name biafra. one or two names of inconsequential Niger deltan are added to give an illusion of legitimacy and then claim New lower Niger congress comprises all states and tribes of the south south. This is what i call desperation at its peak. You make it look that you guys are terrified of fighting for your secession alone.

You should also apologize for disregarding thousands of Nigerian soldiers from the south south and also a few from the south east who paid the ultimate price fighting for their country. You are definitely disrespecting the the families of these soldiers.

36xtr39r:
Mr Itsekiris, stop insulting the sensibility of Igbo Nation with your wild allegations. Igbos are not interested in lazy bigots who are barely surviving by constant ass-licking of their slave masters.

In this modern age of information no sane person can be forced into in a relationship he/she isn't interested in.
Face OduaArewanistan republic where you're highly needed and leave the Igbo Nation alone, including those in SS.

Right now and here provide such evidence of where IPOB insulted SS leaders.

Here we go again with your taking panadol for another man's headache. What concerns you with the ass we lick? Did we come to igbo land to ask for help?

Isn't it ironic, you say In this modern age of information no sane person can be forced into in a relationship he/she isn't interested in, it at the same time you are claiming to forced into a relationship with Nigeria, and asking for freedom. are you claiming to be insane?

You people with your director have insulted everybody that disagreed with your hate filled messages. This is a statement from IPOB insulting a whole former governor and a leader of akwa ibom state.

The statement read: “Some elders in Biafra land
have become the most clueless people in the
world and it rings more true for people who are
supposedly seen as educated like the former
governor of Akwa Ibom State , Obong Victor Attah
who last week made an objection against the
statement made by the President Muhammadu
Buhari that Nigeria's unity is not negotiable.
“While we generally applauded Obong Attah on
his response to President Buhari that the unity of
Nigeria is negotiable, we regrettably read few
days later the same man blabbing and saying
Biafra is for the Igbo alone. So, we began to ask
ourselves critical questions about this statement
coming from the man we respected so much.
“We are forced to ask if Obong Victor Attah lack
full knowledge and history about the Biafra civil
war or does he not know who was called
General Philip Effiong, the Biafran second in
command to General Odumegwu Ojukwu, who
happened to come from the same state with him,
Akwa Ibom.

It was this insultive statement from IPOB that necessitated your sister to open this thread to apologize on behalf of igbos to Obong Victor Attah and the people of Akwa ibom state.

36xtr39r:
The Igbo quest for nationhood is strictly for hardworking achievers and goal-getters. Igbos therefore don't need Itsekiris. Itsekiris are better off with Yorubas in OduaArewanistan republic.

No sane man can be coerced or dragged into a union or relationship which he detests. If there's nothing you learnt in school you should at least know that you've got freedom of association. Go utilise yours.
Leave Igbos alone and go take care of your home problems.

Good, then you igbos should leave others alone and resolve your Biafra issues. Stop attaching South South to every statement you make concerning south east, and stop insulting south south leaders that refused to be coarsed into your biafra ambitions.

36xtr39r:
Itsekiri man, you always want to show yourself on Igbo/IPOB matter.

You need to know that self-determination remains an inalienable right of ANY people. You've got freedom of association and so channel your negative energies towards Nigerdelta republic, OduaArewanistan republic or Nigeria.

Stop creating unnecessary attentions for yourselves.
Igbos don't need you and your people.

Igbo man, it is you people that drag other people into your matter. That is why the OP who happens to show high intelligence opened this thread. She is advicing you to stop dragging other people into your matter.
Nobody is contesting your inalienable rights to self determination, but you can not also determine the rights of others to how they wish to determined themselves.

Fight for your Biafra in a sane and logical way, you will be surprised on the number of people that will support you.

Ngozi123:
How dare you say that those who fought and died on the Biafran side 'don't mean anything'! Did I make any mention of those who fought for Nigeria? I merely said that by saying that Biafra is not for the Igbos alone, they were including those from the minority tribes that want or wanted to be a part of Biafra. I've said before that if a secession were to occur then the Igbos should create an Igbo-only country however I wouldn't be entirely against allowing those from minority tribes who want to, from joining us. You seem to be treating the entire South-South region as a monolith; one has to remember that it was created after the war.

I will repeat my question:
If the Igbos were trying to force the whole of the South-South into Biafra then why are they demanding a referendum?

Who is demanding a referendum? Why should an igbo man or woman for that matter demand for a referendum for another tribe? Are the various tribes of the south south incapable of demanding for a referendum for themselves? If biafra is not for igbos alone, show me one minority tribe that has indicated an interest to join biafra.

Ngozi123:
/End thread.

@Adaure4ever
I've read the article and I've come to the conclusion that this thread was wholly unnecessary; all they said, to paraphrase, was that 'Biafra doesn't belong to the Igbos alone' and that 'the name Biafra was created by a man from a minority tribe'. All these are in fact true as it was not only the Igbos that fought on the Biafran side and it would be disrespectful to disregard the minority soldiers that fought and died for Biafra by claiming that it is only for the Igbos. Now that I've read it, I don't actually think that they're trying to attach themselves to the non-Igbo South-South minority tribes; they're simply trying to be as inclusive as possible for those who'll want to join them. If they were trying to force the whole of the South-South into Biafra then why are they demanding a referendum? Wouldn't it make more sense for them to just take the whole region without asking what the people want?

The fact that 100 or even 1000 non Igbo south south people fought on the side of Biafra dies not mean anything. Much more fought on the side of Nigeria. Most prominent sons and daughters of the south south never supported Biafra. The whole idea of Biafra started as results of reprisal attacks on Igbos in the north after the I'll fated coup that was viewed as an igbo coup, so watin concern non Igbo tribes for Biafra?
Today you scream of Biafra because of perceived marginalization of Igbos and the hatred for Yoruba and Hausa, so watin concern non Igbo tribes? All prominent leaders of various tribes in the Niger delta have told you they are not interested in Biafra, is it by force?

kingzizzy:
Obong Attah doesn't know history. The two most senior men in Government after Ojukwu were from Attahs own state. General Effiong was deputy leader and Mr NU Akpan was chief secretary to the Biafran Government. Chief Frank Opigo, an Ijaw man, was the one who came up with the name Biafra. People like Brigadier Okwechime, brigadier Nwawo, colonel Nzefili, Colonel Nwanjei, Lt Colonel Nzeogwu, Lt Colonel Ochei, Major Isichei, Colonel Joe Achuzia were all Delta Igbos who fought on the side of Biafra. So when people say that Biafra is just about the 5 SE States, I laugh. To this day, I am to see anyone from the so called Niger Delta who says they support 'one Nigeria' whole heartedly. Jokers

So because a couple of ijaw and Anioma people fought for and supported Biafra makes their whole tribe or region Biafra. In that case the whole of the south west should also be included in Biafra, because Victor Banjo fought on the side of Biafra and Woke Soyinka supported biafrans.
What if the people of the south south that fought against Biafra? O I forgot, they were traitors.

HydrogenForest:
We are only interested in our lands in Delta north not all part of Delta state, okay.

Which lands do you have in Delta north. You want to colonize anioma lands by force? Delta north was never in Eastern Nigeria under Ojukwu, delta north was in the mid western region. Ojukwu invaded and took over anioma the way he invaded and took over Benin and also the way he tried to invade and take over Yoruba lands.

Aisha Buhari is as guilty as me on corrupt charges.

This is a confessional statement that can be used in a law court. I hope EFCC keep a recording of this interview to be used as evidence in court when they eventually charge Fayose to court.
That Fayose suspects Buhari's wife of a crime does not exonerate him of his own crimes.

My father had prayed for me that if I continue to be righteous, Ekiti people will serve me forever.

should the reverse not be the case, was he not elected to serve Ekiti people?

I was sent from heaven as a demi god.

Is that so? That means Ekiti people should build an alter dedicated to the worship of Fayose.

I was Obasanjo's boy so I know he's not a saint.

So your admit to being a boy boy to obasanjo before being sent from heaven as a demi god. Obasanjo never claimed to be a saint.

Dr. Goodluck Jonathan is a saint.

Jonathan must be a saint in fayose's heaven as a God or is it demi god.

Food security is better than general security, hence my 'stomach Infrastructure' policy.

what are the details of fayose's stomach infrastructure policy and how does he hope to fund it, since he said they are in economic bondage due to debts?

Ekiti will be in economic bondages until 2036 because of debts collected by former Governor Kayode Fayemi, so my hands are tied".

Why not give use exact details of the debt and how you intend to solve it. How much are you using to servicing the loans now. Give us details of how the debts will be serviced in 2036.

Fayose obviously needs psychological evaluation. He sounds schizophrenic.

tempem:
What's the big bang prove?

Red shift and background radiation.

herzern:
Birds?....... Amphibians turned into it?

I was talking about the first animals on land, but if you mean first animals on the planet, then I would tell you that they are a form of flagellated eukaryote (A single cell with a "tail"

herzern:
If science knows everything and have every power.....Science should have been able to explain what exactly is inside the SUN

Scientists can exactly explain what is inside the sun, and believe me, there is no God there.

The first animals on earth were amphibians, capable of breathing both on land and in water. A perfect example is the mudskipper.

It is now your turn to answer me, Did your God create itself from nothing?

herzern:
if God didn't create the world

Tell me the first animal on earth and how other animals sprinqed out....don't quote some foolish evolution theory for me

If there isn't a super natural force that created the earth....did the world create itself?

Did your God create himself or itself?

It should be nobody's business what grade halima buhari or anybody else whom you have no relation with comes out with, but wailers make anything buhari their obsession.

Graduating with a pass from Nigerian law school is no big deal, especially for students coming from foreign institutions. They find it hard to cope because the curriculum and legal system is different. Lots of students coming from US and UK usually fail law exams the first time.

Besides there had been lots of brilliant and successful lawyers lawyers that graduated from law school with a pass. The indefatigable Gani Fawehinmi was a good example.

Image123:
Oh that? i said YOU should show me a star being born and a star dying. At least you believe they do. If i tell you to go and look for hell and put a link like a bible link for instance, that will be what you just did.

So you are telling us that your hell only exists in a book? No physical location or what it is made of?

A star dies in a nova or supernova. That is when the star finish burning its hydrogen and helium and burn other elements on the periodic table, until it gets to iron. Since it cannot burn iron, it explodes and spew its outer layers into the universe, to be used to birth other stars.
See the Youtube video below to see how a star dies;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIdJtIDReM8

I still ask, show me your hell.

Image123:
After you. Show me a star being born and a star dying, its composition, constituents and how you know. There's hell, now you know.

To see a star, simply look up anytime during the day. It rises in the east in the morning and set in the west in the evening. Now, show me your hell. Where can I find it.

If you want to look for stars in the formation or birthing state get a small telescope and look for the Orion Nebulae.
http://earthsky.org/space/orion-nebula-jewel-in-orions-sword

Now tell us how and where we can locate your hell.
See pics below

Image123:
Of course i know, it's a miracle you didn't read me say i know. You want to tell me that you don't know that there's hell and you will go there without repenting?

I honestly do not know there is hell. can you show me what it is, The composition, constituents and location?

Rankine:
A question for the athiest..... pls wat first existed in this universe nd how did it exist on its own from nothing..... simply put can something exist out of nothing based on scientific prove?

We have no clue. But what we know is that the Universe is, was and probably will always be.

Image123:
It's a fact that sinners will go to hell too. Where is your fact that stars die?

So you want to tell me you do not know that stars are born, burn their fuel and eventually die?
As I always say, you guys need to put your bibles and Korans once a while and get some proper education.

uduak2016:
Yoruba as expected...whenever he sees light-skinned Igbo woman, he focuses on her color...because it's rare with yoruba. This is Fani Kayode son by Precious...isn't his skin color close to his mother's? If she was bleaching...their son CAN NEVER look like that light.

False. Most babies are born very light skinned, they darken to their true colour as they age. I have seen babies born almost white skinned only for them to be black by their first birthday.

It is obvious she is over breaching. Yes, she is naturally light skinned, but she looking artificially white, like an eskimo, in the pics

Dejideji1:
I know where you are going, your question simply means, "if God created everything, then he too must have been created then who created God?"

I can't believe you are still asking this question, because it has been raised several times on this forum and it has been dealt with.

Answering that question will lead to an infinite regression of causes. If we go by the law of cause and effect.
God is eternal, he caused time to exist so that the law of cause and effect will hold thus there will be consequences for every action taken.

God is not bound by the dimensions of space and time thus he doesn't need to be created, it's only something that is bounded by time that needs to be created.

The Bible also attest to the eternal nature of God. Only that you choose not to believe the Bible.

I will refer you to a topic that once made FP for more details.
Search for:

"if God created everything, who created God?"

This is one question that has trouble theists from the dawn of time. I remembered asking this same question some 30 years ago, and no one could provide an answer. I decided to search for answers and my search lead to unexpected and unusual answers.

Your god is eternal and not bound by time is just an houdini style excapist argument. It does nothing to answer the question. It does not answer the question of who created god or when it started to exist. If you say it solves the question of infinite regression, it does not. Why does the regression have to stop at your god? Why does it not stop at his creator or even the universe itself.

The universe could be eternal, needing no creator. The universe itself is outside time and space because space and time is a consequence of an expanding universe, before the universe started expanding, there was nothing like space and time.

I was not aware Femi Fani kayode alias FKK is married. I am aware he has divorced 3 times in his marital career, but a forth marriage is news to me. Can FKK's fans direct me to links where he married Precious Chikwuendu? Is precious now known as Precious Fani Kayode? I wonder how much bride price he paid.

According to wailing wailers, Lere Olayinka is now the official head of Media for Zenith Bank. He is doing an excellent job issuing out press statements on behalf of Zenith Bank. When will Lere Olayinka sue EFCC for forgery and defamation of its corporate image on behalf of Zenith Bank.

joyandfaith:
so they cannot control their resources?
if gold is discovered in your house, would let another person controls it?

Are you talking about gold necklaces or gold nuggets? If you have gold in your house, you also need to have enough resources to protect it. If your neighbourhood knows you keep gold at home, I am sure you will not be able to secure it, not to talk of gold deposits.
Countries and nations are formed to protect common resources, people or interests. If you cannot protect your resources, then you will need to outsource the protection to another country as it is done in most of the Arab world. The US has strong presence in the middle east to prevent another kuwati serenio, where sadam Hussein invaded an oil rich country in less than 12 hours.
Most of Africa's resources was and is still under the control of Europeans because Africa was and is still unable to protect itself.

Because a Muslim openly declaring atheism could cost the person his or her life.

And you and i knw she was killed for A REASON .she wasnt just in her shop drag and killed.

Can you expantiate further on why she was murdered.

It is this statement by professor Anya that caught my attention;

According to a Chinese America culture, Ndigbo is one of the three old tribes, the other two being the Jews and the Chinese.

If whole professor can talk so much senseless nonsense, then I do not blame the young ones who make outlandish egocentric claims.
What does Chinese America culture mean? If Ndigbo and Jews are two of the old tribes, where does the professors place older civilizations like Samaria, Babylonia and even Egypt, which are even older than the Jews.
I am certain the journalist must have mis-reported what the professor said.

tempem:
You know what. I sincerely love this thread.
If the foundation of the theory is missing, what happens to other theories hat are built on this assumptions?
The theory of evolution that cannot explain the origin of life will crumble.

Please, read briefly the structure and function of a "simple cell" and see whether what you'll find out will be proof of chance or evidence of a brilliant design.

Some reasonable/respected scientist say that even a simple cell is far too complex to have arise by chance on earth.

Cc:
Cloudgoddess
Seun and others.

Theist/atheist debates are always a time wasting endeavour, no one can change sides as a result of such encounters. Theists always employ the " heads I win, tail you lose" maxim. If a scientific process is well understood like the cell or germ theory, the theists jump in and claim that because the process is understood to be very complex validates their God and only their God came create or design such complexity. If on the other hand a process or phenomena is not yet fully understood and remains a mystery, the theist will still use that to validate their God. The theists will say that the fact that scientists do not understand the mystery means their God is great.

Now how do you debate with such people?

naijadeyhia:
I am AA and I never suffer from malaria so how come?
In fact I have never been sick or taken drugs for almost 20 yrs now. How come?

So now you no longer want to argue about goats milk abi? Now you are shifting the goal post again. Amazing people.

Lies. There is hardly any human living in tropical mosquito infected Africa that has never suffered from malaria. As long as you suffer mosquito bites and you are not on prevention drugs you will suffer malaria. As I said earlier only people with the S gene that have some resistance.

I have dealt with your goat milk hypothesis, it is dead on arrival.