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smsshola:If Iran can survive all these years under sanctions without exporting crude at all, then low oil prices should not be a concern at all. The question is, how was Iran able to survive and indeed thrive without exporting crude? How were they able to fund exports? How were they able to stabilize their currency? I think Nigeria should go and take lessons from Iran on how to survive without oil. |
naijaboy756:why not dispute the facts instead of throwing tantrums. The economy looked better because there was lots of money (corruption proceeds)being thrown around. Subsidy fraud money, import duty scam money, NNPC stolen money, stolen crude money, stolen Defense money, etc, i am yet to even add the high levels of corruption proceeds at the states and local government levels. In fact the economy was awashed with corrupt monies , all due to high oil prices, and all these were supervised by the coordinating minister of the economy. |
Okonjo Iweala granted dubious import duty waivers that cost the country a whopping N1.4 trillion in 3 years. This is a woman that her kinsmen/woman want Buhari to hand over the country's financial management to? Maybe they want her to completely destroy Nigeria's economy in order to make way for their succession. Nigeria Customs Service says import waivers massively abused under Okonjo-Iweala |
NavierStokes:You did not respond to my submission that the main reason the governors were on war path with the FG's creation of the excess crude account was the lack of trust and transparency on the part of the FG. You cannot be comfortable with someone who you mistrust holding your money. You have a point in explaining the hike in public expenditure under Jonathan, but what you stated is only half the reason. Corruption accounted for up to half of the reason Jonathan was unable to save. There was massive corruption in the fuel and kerosene subsidy regime, so much so that the cost of subsidizing petrol and diesel was almost half our national budget, and it was not budgeted for by the national assembly. Then there was was the import waiver regime where Okonjo Iweala made Nigeria lose hundreds of billions of naira in subsidy waivers for such stupid items like rice, luxury cars and even oil imports. The NNPC could not account for how much crude it sold and how much it remitted. There is customs, NLNG, immigration and even CBN, all these agencies were not remitting money to the FG. The other revenue streams are avenues for raising income into the federation account from where the states are supposed to get 24% of their share and yet they get nothing. The same FG cheating the states of these revenues would then come back and propose that it wants to help the states save a portion of their share of the oil revenue. If you were a governor, would you agree? |
Lighthouseman:Yes the excess crude account is unconstitutional. It is not the sharing of the excess crude account that was the main problem of the governors, it was the unilateral withdrawals by the Jonathan's administration without permission from the governors that caused mistrust between the FG and states. Nobody could trust Okonjo Iweala and Jonathan with their share of federal allocations. The governors share of the excess crude account is only about 24% while the FG's share is about 52%, why did the FG andnot save some of the FG's share in a special account for the rainy day. Was it the states that was responsible for the FG not being able to save it own share of allocation and still run a deficit budget? |
Governors, who arm-twisted Okonjo Iweala into signing out our reserves held by Central Bank, are today ministers in the APC government. We are still talking about change and corruption when old things refuse to pass away!This statement is false and is only an excuse to exhonorate Okonjo Iweala from the frittering away our oil boom bonanza by the last government. The governors never asked Okonjo Iweala to share our foreign reserves, what they asked to be shared was the money in the excess crude accounts and sovereign wealth fund. This is because the Governors( induding PDP governors) do not trust the Jonathan Goodluck Administration to keep their share of their money for them. They accused the Okonjo Iweala of unilaterally dipping her hands into the excess crude account without their consent. The governors share of the excess crude account is only about 24% while the FG's share is about 52%, why did Okonjo Iweala not save some of the FG's share in a special account for the rainy day. She spent all the FG,s share and borrowed massively to pay salaries and buy Arms for the military. If the FG cannot save, why expect the states to save? How was she able to save in the excess crude account despite arm twisting by the governors during OBJ's period with low oil prices? |
ocelot2006:Arguing with you people is like trying to catch a snake drenched in oil. If any sector is succeeding, you credit it to foundation laid by Jonathan. If any sector is failing, you blame PMB for reversing Jonathan's success. Which economic growth rate did Jonathan leave? The so called growth rate was simply crude oil growth rate. You hero was already talking of austerity measures when crude fell to $60 per barrel, what would he have said if he is still president with oil selling at $30. If actually Jonathan performed miracles on the economy as you guys are propagating, it would be impossible for the economy to be on the verge of crashing a few months after he left office, the momentum alone would take at lest a year before it slows down to a crash. |
ocelot2006:Can you do us all a big favour by directing us to a link to the sound economic blueprint? |
APCLyingBastard:What are you talking about? are you alright. My community in warri alone has 13 oil wells, how many oil wells are situated in your community? after you tell me, i will then know if you qualify to shout "our oil" |
APCLyingBastard:You shout WE in the ND as if your community has oil. If you have ever seen an oil well or even an oil sleek before you would not spew the rubbish you are yarning here. Even if we in the Nigerdelta become independent, we might not gain much from our oil resources, this is because our visionless leaders are satisfied with correcting rent from foreign based oil exploiting firms than developing local capacity ti exploit oil. We lack the manpower and technology to explore and exploit oil, so we will have to depend on foreigners to do it for us and sit down at home collecting rent. Because of this foreign companies charge Nigeria $28 to explore and exploit a barrel of oil, and still share the profit on a 60:40 ratio, so when oil falls below $28 per barrel we get nothing. Meanwhile Saudi Arabia is able to produce a barrel of oil at as low as $2 per barrel, so even if oil was to fall to $10, they would still be making a profit. |
NavierStokes:You people always find a way to blame other tribes but quick to make excuses for your own for errors done by all. The financial sector was in the hands of your tribesmen/women during the last government and they messed up big time, you are now attempting to shift blames on a yoruba woman that had hardly been finance minister for 2 months. So according to your wrapped blame searching logic, Kemi Adeosun is to be blamed for Nigeria's fiscal and monetary policies, and she is also in charge of Nigerian security exchange. Emefiele and onyema now report to the finance minister according to some ethnic bigots? To them an Igbos public office can never do wrong while public officers from other tribes can never do right. |
Oboy see phd thesis. I give you huge credit for taking out time and effort to write out such long and detailed argument, it betrays your intellectual and physical depth. I do not have the physical strength and time for a detailed rejoinder and i hope bevista can take on the enormous challenge of a detailed response. Even though i agree with many of your submissions, on the performance of OBJ and Soludo, i disagree vehemently with your conclusion that GEJ performed better than OBJ, that is if GEJ performed at all. LordAdam:Paying up $12 billion and leaving such huge amounts in our foreign reserve and excess crude accounts is a major feat, giving that crude averaged $40 per barrel during his tenor. What you fail to put into consideration is that under OBJ, Nigeria was just coming out of economic doldrums. Under Abacha/abdulsalami Nigeria was a pariah nation, nobody was ready to do business or invest in Nigeria, so OBJ spent a lot of time traveling to restore relationships with other nations and invite foreign investors. So to say major sectors under OBJ was stagnant is uncharitable considering where we were coming from. Even his top 2 achievements are questionable:I also do not credit OBJ with bring GSM to Nigeria. GSM was a revolution going around the world, so it would have come to Nigeria whoever the president was. Although i disagreed with the way soludo was sleeping in bed with the banks instead of regulating them, i still think OBJ government did quite well in the financial sector, as you said he reduced inflation rate to 6% before he left, he stabilized the naira, he almost eliminated the gap between the parallel and official exchange markets, he increased the capital base of banks and made them bigger, etc. Have to go and prepare for work. Might continue later when i have time. |
LordAdam:I strongly disagree what GEJ would have been a better manager than PMB. As i pointed out earlier GEJ had the highest earnings in the history of Nigeria and his management of these earnings was at best poor. GEJ did not introduce anything new into the polity , his policies were simply a continuation of OBJ's policies carried over by yaradua, which is mainly hinged on privatization of state asserts. As for PMB, we have to wait a bit more to see his policy direction. At the moment he is more occupied with the war against Boko Haram and corruption. |
Bevista:It is possible that we consume up to 40 million litres a day. I consume close to 100 litres weekly to run both office and home as PHCN is yet to resume for Christmas break in my area. So imagine what lagos alone with over 2 million homes would be consuming just on generators. If I am assume Nigeria has a minimum of 15 million households with our estimated 170 million population, majority without electricity, then If even 5 million households consume 4 litres daily with " i better pass my neighbor" generator, then only generators would consumption at least 20 million litres daily. We have not even started talking about cars and artisans like barbers, welders and small businesses. What i am trying to say is that we cannot solve our fuel problems without solving our electricity problem. Having constant electricity can reduce our fuel consumption by up to half. |
PreyingMantis:I asked a simple question and you are rambling. You are saying that president Buhari lacks and i asked, who can you name that possesses the birthdaysoundness of mind to proffer innovative cutting edge ideas to a complex Nigeria? Name that person you know that knows how to pilot this ship. |
Clowns. Who will register the judgement of Britains invasion of Falkland Islands and Iraq. |
Bevista:Thank you for your indepth analysis. I have always supported Buhari, because i feel he is sincere and disciplined. i am not also too impressed by his actions so far, but i am ready to give him time, at least 18months before i start criticizing his handling of Nigeria. But right now he looks confused and overwhelmed by the enormity of the problems facing the country. As you rightly said the Jonathan administration was the worst thing that happened to Nigeria. Jonathan has nothing to show for his 5 and a half year rule - nothing. Even IBB has the Third Mainland Bridge to his credit and the moving of the capital to Abuja. OBJ did substantial work on Abuja. Jonathan did nothing despite having the highest revenue in the history of Nigeria. Jonathan had enough resources to build Gas pipelines throughout nigeria to solve our energy crisis and even supply the whole of West Africa to earn foreign exchange. he had enough to modernize our railways instead of resuscitating achaic rail systems with tokunbo trains. He had the resources to modernize our military to meet modern threats - external and internal, but we ended up being worse than when he assumed power. I forgot to add that he also had the resources to build the 2nd, third and even 4th Niger bridge |
Bevista:I say it is not as simple as that. During soludo time what was the average price of crude? what was our import bill? what was our expenditure (especially recurrent). During soludo, the OBJ government was able to pay our debt to the paris club, meet the dollar demands of Nigeria at the bi-weekly dollar dutch auction sales and save enough money in our foreign reserve and sovereign wealth fund. He even had the luxury of hosting two expensive world events - Commonwealth Games and Commonwealth Heads of Governments. So because the OBJ government was relatively "prudent", soludo had enough dollars to bridge the gap between the parallel and official markets. But now the situation has reversed. Crude is selling at $27 per barrel, our taste for imported products has skyrocketed, our recurrent expenditure has ballooned, and there are loan obligations to pay. Dont forget that corruption within the government agencies has also risen. So where do you want Emefiele to get the dollars to bridge the Gap between the markets? |
Bevista:And you think the gap between the parallel and official rate can be bridged simply by devaluation. The official market has been chasing the parallel market since the early 80's when $1 was N0.5 and till today is yet to catch up. As long as we export everything we consume and export only crude oil, the gap between the parallel and official markets would be determined by the price of crude oil. |
onatisi:I am sorry to say, but you have no idea of what you are talking about. I had written about this in the past. Refinery Business is a very capital intensive business and is even not a very profitable business. The return on investmnet period is very long. Sometimes it takesup to 20 year to recupperate the cost of investment before you start talking about profit. Now with lending rates hovering around 25%, which crazy investor will invest in such huge long term investment in an unstable economy like Nigera. Construction of a gas pipeline to another country is one thing but construction of CRUDE PIPELINES to 36 states of Nigeria is impractical and a recipe for disaster. There are already fuel pipelines to some major depot around the country and its not working because of the huge problem of pipleline vandalization and lack of maintenance, and you are talking of crude oil pipelines to all 36 states. So who will be responsible for the building and maintenance of the pipelines, the FG, the States or the private investor. What of the owners of the land the pipelines will pass through? who will compensate them for their lands? Most world refineries are built near the source of crude or near the sea port, the finished products are then transported by rail or pipelines to the interior. That was why i did not see the sense in building refinery in Kaduna, and you are talking about building a refinery in Yola. |
onatisi:The basic problem of Nigeria is not educational qualification, it is sincerity (or lack of.). We have had highly qualified people handle nigeria's economy in the past with no positive impact. People like Olu Falae, Kalu Idika Kalu, Okonjo Iweala, had been finance minister and Nigeria's economy did not feel their impact. Infact they all impacted negatively on the Nigerian economy. Utomi, to me is not innovative. He had been in government before and his impact was not felt. All he talks about is Singapore and the Asian Tigers, as if Nigeria's problems can be solved by simply extrapolating Singapore's economic model to Nigeria. What we need is sincerity of purpose. What do we want as a country? where do we want to go? how do we get there? What structures do we need to put in place to get us where we want to be? Do we even want a country or we want to return to our ethnic enclave? |
onatisi:Utopic idea. Where will the states get the money to build the refineries when they can hardly pay salaries? A small 24,000 BPD capacity refinery is estimated to cost $250million, and that is even without putting into consideration the NIGERIAN FACTOR. The capital outlay for any 100,000 barrel per day (bpd) refinery is about $1.5 billion, while a 24,000 bpd modular refinery is roughly $250m. Therefore, it is easier to access funds for the modular refining modules (through US Ex-IM Bank).Then how will the refineries in each state get access to raw material - crude oil? Is the FG to lay pipelines to all 36 states in Nigeria? or the refineries will transport crude oil by road using tankers? Then which state institution had ever succeeded in Nigera? |
Chubhie:Can you tell us that person you know that possesses the soundness of mind to proffer innovative cutting edge ideas to a complex Nigeria. I hope you do not mention Goodluck Jonathan. |
Buhari is fighting corruption turn by turn, and its not yet Deziani Alison's turn. Buhari is dealing with fraud in defence allocations and taking an inventory of military equipment first.he is also looking into NIMASA and the maritime sector. He will then move on to customs. He will move into the oil sector after dealing with the less controversial sector. The scandal in the oil sector is huge, he cannot take on the oil sector while being distracted by these other sectors. He will be overwhelmed if he attempts to attack all sectors at once. Deziani and her supporters should be patient, their time will come. |
Dead on arrival. So ECOWAS court is now the appeal court or Supreme court. Ecowas has no jurisdiction in Nigeria's domestic affairs. Dasuki's lawyers should file a comtempt charge against the FG if they feel the FG is disobeying court orders. |
boyt1:The price of oil was over $100 under PDP (Jonathan), the price is $30 now. Also production was over 2.2million barrels a day under PDP, while we are struggling to find buyers for our crude today. Do not also forget, under PDP hundreds of thousands barrels of crude was stolen per day, but now the fear of Buhari is the beginning of wisdom. |
Pk001:Are you sure you are true nigerdeltan? Because if you are, you will appalled by Jonathan and his cronies defrauding the nigerdelta instead of condemning Amaechi for thinking of how to make the best of a very bad situation. After 6 years in the presidency, the nigerdelta has nothing to show from one of her son's becoming head of state. Which university project does Amaechi want to kill? There was no university project. There was only fraud and scam. For ordinary land Jonathan paid Tompolo N13 billion. Do all the land in swamps Gbaramatu kingdom worth N13 billion and does it all belong to Tompolo? Ok where are the title deeds and receipts for the sale including the survey plan, so we can see the actual land. If land alone is N13 billion, how much will the whole university cost? N1 trillion? You want Amaechi to build the project that Jonathan did not even start? Where will he get the money from? The most logical thing to do is to renovate and upgrade existing facilities. Why can Oron be upgraded to a polytechnic specializing in maritime engineering and other courses. I do not support moving anything maritime outside the nigerdelta though as that is the maritime hob of Nigeria. |
frankyychiji:Why are you deflecting responsibility? Are you telling us you brain is not capable of taking me to cleaners? Ok, bring in your master who you claim has brains. |
cktheluckyman:Can you tell me what you eat today? I am sure no item came from your state or even region. The rice is expired rice from china, the yam is from the north, the beaf or meat is from the north, even the tomato and pepper is from the north. If you ate chicken or turkey, that is rejected poultry from europe. So if your government does not recieve bail out from the federal government or IMF, how would you feed? |
HopeAlive14:Lies! No former Head of State had even been surmoned to appear before a court. The Oputa Panel had no legal backing. |
HopeAlive14:No! because the governments that came after them see them as saints. |
Candyrain:Did Oputa panel have any law setting it up or backing it? Oputa panel was just a jamboree. Attendance was not compulsory. Justice Oputa did not tell you he had powers to declare anybody guilty or innocent, or even the legal right to summon anybody. That was why people like IBB, Buhari, Abdulsalami declined the invitation to attend. If Jonathan is summoned by a legally constituted court, he has no choice but to appear, else he would charged for contempt. |
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