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PHAYOL81:
Exactly, computer may malfunction, data service may break down and cloud support do go down as well, does it then means THE ELECTION HAS TO BE POSTPONED OR CANCELLED,AS A RESULT？ Absolutely not

Why will computer malfunction, data service break down and cloud support go down on the day of election or at most a couple of days during a election? JAMB conducts exams in a single day using computer, data service and cloud support. Elections in other countries are carried out using computer, data service and cloud support, so why can Nigeria, the so called giant of African employ IT in its elections? Even other African countries have gone digital in their elections, but Nigeria wants to continue to conduct elections the same way it conducted it in the 60s.

Femeto:
The election process is a fraud even the supreme court doesn't want it to be transparent.

I stopped taking the Nigerian supreme court serious in election cases when it validated the 2007 elections. An election that clearly violated the electoral act and common sense.
Section 45(2) of the Electoral Act, 2006 states expressly that, “The ballot papers shall be bound in booklets and numbered serially with differentiating colours for each office being contested.”

But professor Iwu conducted the 2007 elections without serialised ballot papers or bound in booklets. The supreme court said that such non compliance with the electoral act did not affect the outcome of the elections, and so declared Umaru Yaradua as president.

TenQ:
If i get you correctly, the Palestinians built the city of Jerusalem as the Jews are normadic people?

Joshua 10:1-15
1. Adonizedek, the king of Jerusalem, heard that Joshua had captured and totally destroyed Ai and had killed its king, just as he had done to Jericho and its king. He also heard that the people of Gibeon had made peace with the Israelites and were living among them
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garfield1:
Which tinubu will still win

I am not disputing that he could still win due to political horse trading. Politicians are like ashawo, they hold no allegiance to anyone and anything but their own selfish interests. The winner will depend on who the third person in the triad decides to support.

What I am sure is that there was no way Tinubu got 50% of total votes in the last election and at the same time lose Lagos, Abuja, the South South, the South East and a few Middle belt states, without the magic by Mahmood Yakubu.

OGHENAOGIE:
opposition division Made APC win... Has nothing to do with rigging if it was rigged APC wouldn't have won with 38 50 Percent... It should have won with 60 percent... U guys should use ur Head tel obi to return to PDP that's the only Party capacity of defeating APC... by 2027 if obi run on LP u ll still be shouting rigging after APC wins again

If we were to be honest with ourselves (and expecting honesty from a Nigerians is like expecting a camel to pass through the eye of a needle), you will know that there was no way one candidate would one candidate would have secured over 50% of the total votes.

Tinubu for one was very unpopular within Nigerian youths due to the endsars protest, which they put the blame on him and sanwo olu. They burnt any properties they feel he owned. Tinubu used his own mouth to say he doesn't use social media because of the "abuses" cum insults he receives.
Afenefere, a major Yoruba socio political organisation did not support him.

The Christian South vehemently opposed him because of the Muslim - Muslim ticket and because of his shady background.


He got actual support from core North due to the Buhari factor and the Muslim - Muslim ticket.

Likewise Peter Obi and Atiku had their political baggages. So not one of them would have secured an outright majority in a free and fair election. That's why I believe that without the massive rigging, there would have been a runoff.

Myer:
1. Israelites just like in the bible seem to be nomadic in nature. Since Abraham, isaac and Jacob/Israel.

Yes the Israelites were a nomadic tribe just like any nomadic tribe suffering desert encroachment. The move around looking for more favourable lands to graze their animals.

A typical analogy in west Africa are the Fulanis. Desert encroachment is bringing them to southern Nigeria, where they fight to displace people from their lands in order to graze their cows.

The ongoing war between Palestine/Philistine and Israel is the same one that was documemt in the bible. So you can see that the Bible is in fact an historical book of facts.

That's fact from the perspective of the authors - the Israelites. If the Palestinians had written their own facts, it would have been different and favourable to the Palestinians. The Israelites had stable kingdoms with powerful kinds who instructed scribes to keep record - both actual and fictional. The Palestinians never had a stable kingdom.

Jacob and the whole of Israel left Canaan for Egypt during the great famine at the behest of his son Joseph who was then the Prime Minister of Egypt.
Unfortunately when the Pharoah and a generation died, subsequent Pharoah enslaved them. And for 400 (430) years as prophesied they were enslaved.
It took another 40 years (a generation) for them to return from Egypt to Canaan which had them been inhabited by other tribes. This marked the beginning of the wars. The reason God allowed this is also detailed in the bible.

No record whatsoever that the Israelites were ever held captive in Egypt. No records whatsoever of an Israelite called Jacob ever becoming prime minister in Egypt. It's even a paradox that a slave became the prime minister his slave masters.

The Egyptians were excellent record keepers just like the Romans, they have records of all their Pharoahs spanning over 4,000 years. Joseph did not appear in any Egyptian hieroglyphic.

2. Every religion can be a charade but God isn't.
When you encounter God, He leads you to the Truth.

The Christian religion is a charade build by the dying Roman empire to unify and controll the empire under a common set of beliefs and laws.

The Europeans later employed it to kill the religion and customs of lands they conquered and bring the people under its control.

Myer:
If indeed you have peace of mind and joy outside Christ, then you're fine. The gospel is for the rest of us who are empty without Him.

Sorry to but in, but I fund this statement puzzling.
Why will you feel empty without a religious figure (mythical or real), that supposedly was killed by his people over 2000 years ago?

Is that not sort of a deeper psychological problem?

TheAlchemist:
This is a vote of no confidence on George Weah .. if he had performed well he should have gotten a landslide victory.

False. Landslide victory is extremely difficult in real elections. That's because people vote according to different reasons. Some vote for ethnic tribal sentiments, some religious sentiments, some economic, etc. So except a government has performed extremely well or extremely poor, the margin of victory in proper elections are usually less than 10%.

SoNature:
If George Weah can be forced into a runoff, it means his performance wasn't impressive.

BTW, the population of Liberia is 5.5 million. That's not even up to the population of some Nigerian states. Since Nigeria is difficult for us to manage, break this country into smaller units.

It's not about performance, it's got to do with election integrity. There are very few elections in the world where one candidate will win with the kinds margins we have in Nigeria.

If not for massive rigging by the ruling party in collaboration with the election umpire, I am sure the last elections would have been a run off.

This simply shows elections in Liberia is more credible than those in Nigeria.

LordReed:
LoLz! Trump himself selected this people so your spin is just nonsense. After shouting drain the swamp, filling the courts with conservative judges and giving tax breaks to the rich is now you know DC is corrupt. Why didn't Trump do anything significant to combat the corruption? Why is it the very people of his kitchen cabinet that are falling apart? Nonsense and ingredients. Bwahahahahaha!

That's because Trump is the only human being outside Jesus christ that is sinless. Every other American outside his disciples like Jim Jordan,
Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz, and other MAGA followers are evil. All his former staff including lawyers, accountants and personal aids are all compromised. All his appointee aids and staff as president are all parts of the deepstate. Even some members of his family like his wife and daughter are all working for the deepstate. In fact only Trump can save America from every other person in the US.

Iziquiel:
Great news.

The EFFCC should go after those Nigerians who connived with foreign national to defraud Nigeria.

There should be grave consequences for actions like these.

EFCC only goes after Yahoo boys.

This case was was prosecuted and concluded without the involvement of EFCC. What a shame.

firearcher:
I hope the Lagos state government realizes that shutting down markets and commerce centers are not decision that should be taken lightly considering the impact on the citizens and the economy of the city and state.

Decisions like these should be driven by the need to solve identified issues as mutual partners, not driven by desire to flex power and authority.

It seems Governor Sanwo Olu wants to sabotage APC from winning any election in Lagos come 2027. Either he wants Tinubu to lose Lagos or he is planning to use a battalion of thugs to prevent anyone from voting. Maybe they intend to just write the figures the next time around in Lagos elections.

Pierocash:
Lol. This terrorists keep having hope that Isreal should run out of ammunitions, day-dreaming in its highest form. You guys are already learning a lesson and will continue to learn even without iron dome,Isreal will still crush the whole Arab leagues .

You think Israel has enough ammunition to fight Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran at the same time without heavy US intervention? Even with US help it will be a difficult task.

MrAgbako:
you dey there dey speak English. What solution do you provide except to badmouth people that don't support Mr peter Obi?

Why not debate the real issues instead of always screaming Peter Obi? Are you that Obsessed with Peter obi and you must insert him in every sentence you make?

What's the sense in giving 15 million Nigerians N25,000 only to have the dollar rise to N1500, bag of rice N70,000 and petrol rise to N1000 in a few months time due to the resultant inflation?

Judolisco:
I think their language is similar to ones in ondo....

It's not their language, it's my language. Itsekiri language is predominantly Yoruba dielect similar to Ijebu and Ondo, and a mixture of Portuguese and Edo words.

In commemoration of the 2023 International Day for the Eradication of Poverty on Tuesday in Abuja, President Bola Tinubu launched the disbursement of N25,000 to 15 million households for three months as a social safety net intervention.

ECONS101 - More money chasing the same quantity of goods and services equals INFLATION.

At least an first class graduate in accountancy or is it Business Administration should know that

Judolisco:
Itsekiris are Yorubas..... I still dey wonder how they found themselves down south and isolated.... Before u start arguing with me... Ask an itsekiri man to read 1 to 20 in their dialect and compare it with 1 to 20 in Yoruba

They are not isolated. It's politics of that made the the Nigerian state separate the Itsekiris from their kith and kins in Edo and Ondo. Its like when the Europeans separated the Yorubas in Nigeria from those in Benin and Togo.

Bigpat:
Muslims are problem everywhere, someone wants to kill herself, you rescued her, only for you to want to kill her too.
If killing herself is an offence, you killing her is it not an offence.
Can two wrongs make a right.
One Gov. Raddah says carrying guns in Nigeria be legalized, can Nigerians especially the Northern Muslims be trusted with AK47, for a country of hunger and starvation.
America that allows guns, they are mentally & psychologically stable, there are jobs,no hunger in their land, even at that, in their abundancy they still experience shootings here and there, mostly from Muslim residents.
Tell me the wisdom in trying to kill a frustrated woman who needs help

That's the aspect that i find irrational. You save someone for killing herself in the most painless way possible, you then sentence her to death in a most gruesome manner. Why? What lesson are to teach the society? Generally, criminal punishments are meant to reform, discourage others from committing crimes or act as revenge for those hurt by the criminal, which of these is this law meant to achieve?

Muslims are just sadistic and bloodthirsty.

fawaz050:
The American constitution accedes to LGBTQ+ rights. Why not you along with Christianity scholars (or whatever your religion is) demand the proscription since it is against the principle of a Christian state.

Yes the US constitution is founded on European idealism of the time which was predominantly Christian, but is not a Christian state. The US is a secular state and separates the church from the state.

FYI, not all the provisions of the Iraqi constitution is based on Islamic Injuctions.

Then what is the law of beating a suicide survivor to death based on? You tell me.

In Malaysia, drug pushers are killed and it's not obtainable in most Western/"Christian" Countires. Why not you along with Christianity scholars (or whatever your religion is) demand the proscription.

Killing of drug pushers has nothing to do with Christianity. It is a prescription to a destructive social problem. Drug addiction kills and destroy the lives of young people. The drug pushers can be said to be silent murderers. Now tell me the how a sick and depressed person that attempted suicide is likened to a drug pushers.

You just want argument and wouldn't stop ostracizing Islam irregardless of my analogies. I leave you to whatever helps you sleep at night.

Modern day Islam is a violent and disruptive religion. It turn normally sane and humane human beings to beasts. How can someone watch a defenseless woman being beaten to death, with blood splattered all over the place? And you are comparing it to LGBTQ and more humane killing of drug pushers.
Please note : I detest all forms of capital punishment. I believe since you cannot create a life, you should also not kill a life. I support life imprisonment for serious crimes. I believe a murderer and his executioner are both guilty of the same crime.

fawaz050:
See pure hatred.

The judgement is based on Iraqi constitution. It's not an Islamic injunction.

But the Iraqi constitution is based on Islamic injuctions. If not why not you along with Islamic scholars condemn the law, and ask for the release of the obviously troubled woman. Why are you guys so sadistic. Imagine beating a defenseless woman who did not hurt anyone to death. It seems you guys enjoy inflicting pain on others. Even if she commited a capital offence, what happens to quick and painless death? If I watch such cruelty, I will be traumatised for a very long time.

I hope Abike Dabiri is able to intervene and bring her home to receive proper treatment. suicide is psychological disease caused by the silent killer - depression.

Ovacoma:
God bless Nigeria as well. God bless whoever blesses Israel and curse be whoever curses Israel!

Please quit this God bless Israel nonsense, just because of religious sentiments. Israelis hate blacks even more than Arabs. I have worked with Israelis before and they think of you less than animals

Ovacoma:
God bless Israel

Why God bless Israel? What's your business with Israel?
What about your country Nigeria or your state? Will God curse Nigeria?

Demurray:
We're they not the ones that started the killing of in Israel? Weren't children and women among those that were killed in Israel? That's to say why starting what you can't finish in the first place .

If Hamas killed innocent Israeli women and children, and Israeli military retaliates by killing innocent Palestinian women and children, then what makes them different. How is Hamas different from Israeli military.
Note, Many Israelis and Jews around the world don't support the indiscriminate bombing of civilians by the Israeli military. Meanwhile, Nigerian Christians blinded by religious bias (based on ignorance as there are more Christians in Gaza than the whole of Israel) support the Israel for committing the same crime they are accusing Hamas of.

Henry22:
It turned religious the moment hamas started shouting Allah abobaku and isreal in question have come out to tell the world that hamas was responsible for the bombing.

It never turn religious, because the Hamas fighters never tried to covert anyone. Muslims shouting Allah Akbar before going to war is a war cry.

The Hamas fighters that invaded Israel obviously knew they would not survive the invasion of Israel, their goal was to kill as many Israelis as possible before they die.
My problem with Israel's response was doing the same thing Hama were doing, which is killing innocent civilians - women, children and Babies in revenge attacks. Israel could have killed all the Hamas militants that breached their borders and then go after those in Gaza in a more strategic way. Afterall, they claim to have the best intelligence organisation in the world.
I suspect Israel and CIA was aware of the attacks but let it happen, probably to take the remaining lands and have justification to kill as many Palestinians as possible. I just find it hard to believe that hamas could plan such a sophisticated and large scale operation without MOSSAD or CIA being aware.

Demurray:
Gaza has been inhumane to the people of Israel from time immemorial and God has been fishing them accordingly . The holy scripture testifies to it

Isreal will never stop until Gaza is razed completely as in no peace for the wicked

Are you aware that there are millions of women, children and babies living in Gaza? Razing Gaza means killing them all.
This your God so evil it makes Hitler, Stalin and pol pot look mild.

mayor1814:
I will never support killings of innocent lives, but why will Hamas attack Israel first wen they know very well that Israel will not sit down and look wen attacked.

I just wish safety to all innocent Palestinian civilians. This heat is getting too much.

Because the Palestinians have nothing to lose except their lives.
Normally, I dont like getting myself involved in the Israeli-Palestinian wars because most of the information from both sides are propaganda, and this is a conflict between brothers that had span millenia. The conflicts is over control of the land. When Palestinians were in more powerful, they refused Israel any land and now that Israel is in control, they allow the Palestinians very little land. They have no rights whatsoever on the little land that isreal allows them to settle. They are imprisoned within its borders, no citizenship, no passport. What goes in and out of Gaza and the west bank is controlled by Israel. If isreal was in such a position, their own terrorist attacks will be worse. In fact one of the first terrorist groups in history was a Zionist terrorist organization called Irgun. They detonated a bomb in the basement of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem to drive the British government out of Palestine in order to drive the British out of the then Palestine.

jaephoenix:
Yes. Talking with a non physical being for hours especially when you talk about mundane things like the weather is gonna snag you a visit to the shrink.
All those activities you talked about involve interacting with physical objects. They may not give tangible results but they cause an increase dopamine which is what gives the happy or content expression we gain.
Now the question. What's the gain in talking the weather with an invisible being?

Prayer, worship, dancing and other religious activities also flood the brain with dopamine. That's why Prayer and religious activities can be addictive, sometimes more addictive than drugs. That's why Karl marx said "religion is the opium of the people". You cannot diffentiate between people addicted to religion and people addicted to opium.

Newdawn30:
The best palliative is subsidy... It has a trickle effect, on the economy , instead all this conditional cash and dashing money up and down. That will end up in the private pocket of corrupt officials.

Sharing money doesn't work in Nigeria because we lack adequate data as a society.

The painful part is, after removing the subsidy we are still borrowing, while the citizens are suffering more than ever before

We are back to square one - the same situation before subsidy removal and floating of the naira, only now that inflation jumped over 50% with the first 2 months of this administration. So it's business as usual for subsidy and forex thieves.

NothingDoMe:
What you listed are the the components of Righteousness

1. Transparency
2. Equity
3. Justice
4. Honesty

Righteousness exalts a nation. Not prayer. This isn't saying that prayer is bad.

Then answer the question, is Nigeria a righteous nation? If not why, inspite of having the highest number of churches and mosques in the world, inspite of being the second most prayerful nation in the world.

Why are we then highly religious but at the same time highly unrighteousness? We have become do loathed that no country wants to let a nigerian into their soil.

nairalanda1:
Therefore...Christians bad.

That's why I don't care.

There are far more complicated reasons why Nigeria is not developed than 'We pray too much'.

"We pray too much" is in fact the most important reason for Nigeria's underdevelopment, and the statistics presented in this thread confirmed it. The amount of man hours and resources spent on prayers in Nigeria is enormous. If we expend the same energy on knowledge, skills and productive work, we would be a first world nation just like China.

Moderate amount of prayer would not have much negative impact of production and development, but excessive prayer as done in Nigeria is antithetical to development. In Nigeria Christians have church activities act least 5 times a week, whole Muslims go to mosques or prayer grounds 5 times a day.

There are two types of societies - faith based and knowledge based society.
Faith based societies consists of churches/mosques/shrines, priests, juju, prayers, witches, spirits, etc., knowledge based societies consists of libraries/research centres/museums, scientists, inventions, gadgets, etc.

Faith based societies send people on pilgrimages, knowledge based societies send people to the moon and other planets.

Faith based societies are almost always poor while knowledge based societies are almost always wealthy.
There is alway a war between Faith and knowledge within each society. When faith wins poverty and ignorance prevails, but when knowledge wins prosperity and enlightenment takes over. Good examples were Greece during the golden age of plato/socrates and aristototle, Egypt during the time of the Ptolemaic dynasty, and Europe during the renaissance.

Angelfrost:
But I didn't insult you... I am not the person who quoted you there.

I'm merely interested in the earlier part of the post which is a good discussion and teachable point.

I agree with you about the aspect of people using insults... It's just a shame. I have had my fair share of insults.

Honestly, I have lost count... Right now, I think I have grown a thick skin for it.

Apologies. I thought you were the same moniker spewing insults up and down. I just quoted your post without looking at the username.

About your question about religion before slavery and colonialism; yes our ancestors were theists (and in fact at that time 99.99% of people in the world were theists) but the brand of theisms was not the violent, exploitative and forcefully imposed variety. Our own religion was tailored towards helping us understand and cope with our harse environment and challenges. That's was why a tribe never imposes its own religion on a neighbouring tribe, not to talk of a neighbouring country or race. Even the Jewish religion from with Islam and Christianity got their roots was a tribal religion, they never tried to impose yahweh on neighbouring canaanite tribes, their conflicts were mainly fights over pastoral lands within the desert.

The Roman Christian religion and Arabic Muslim religion was a political tool, a political tool for conquering and controlling other people's and races, so much so that the battle line became Jerusalem and southern Europe. In Africa, the Muslims conquered Africa - all the way from the North to the West until the European coming from the coast stopped them. At the end of the day the Muslim ruled northern parts of most countries in west Africa while the Christians ruled the coasts.

Religion was an effective weapon (even more effective than guns) in the colonalisation of Africa.

Angelfrost:
Let's pretend that the insult is not there...!

Please, answer his question... Prior to colonialism and neocolonialism, were our ancestors Atheists?!!

It's a very good question... Blaming every issue in poor and underdeveloped nations on religion kinda borders on close-ended and narrow reasoning.

I cannot forget the insults is not there. I have been on this forum for a very long time and I have had serious differences of opinions with lots of people including the owner seun, I have never been personally insulted.
I don't want to go down that path of trading insults with anonymous people on line due to differences of opinion, so kindly ignore my posts and I will ignore yours. I am sure there are plenty others that will enjoy trading insults with you.