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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 6:35pm On Aug 25, 2023
wirinet:
I can't wait for Lincoln Project to start rolling out campaign adds. They are hilarious 😂.
I spoke too soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlKCUGR764k?si=XtxVMzAoUZfPgXCO
Epic grin
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 4:26pm On Aug 25, 2023
WonderMan76:
I won’t even bother with lengthy responses to you people anymore.

Na screenshots I go just dey drop. You can choose to keep living in delusion.

Biden is NOT as popular as you think.
We all know Biden is not very popular, even within the democrats. What is obvious is that on a national scale, he is more popular than Trump.
Trump will bring out the democrats enmass. They will not necessarily vote for Biden, but against Trump.

I can't wait for Lincoln Project to start rolling out campaign adds. They are hilarious 😂.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m):
basilico:
In all elections that a president won, would you care to let us know the stats behind every win And how Biden was able to surpass all those stats.
Let me save you the trouble. Biden underperformed Obama and every other president in history in every stat except for the topped up votes.
Which top up votes? You are just writing nonsense probably to justify your paymaster. Your are behaving as if you are being paid for each post, so you must post something no matter how nonsensical.
If you were in the US you or the organisation you are working for would have been sued to bankruptcy. Even newsmax now put out disclaimers after people like you make stupendous claims on their platform.

Ray Epps and Ruby Freeman would have made a fortune from your character assassination and defamation.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:10am On Aug 25, 2023
WonderMan76:
Oh you thought it was gonna hurt him with the base? Hahahahhaha

Fanny pack Willis just have his campaign it’s biggest symbol ever. Even fat Alvin in NY knew better than to do this.

Trump is making at least $50 million for his campaign from this picture alone.
It never intended to hurt his base. Everyone knows that even if Trump grabs their mama by the poosie, members of the base would still worship him. The indictments would have effects on the 30% to 50% republicans who are not his base. It will have effect on the independents and most importantly of all it will galvanised the anti-base, that is the liberals, leftists and democrats to frenzy levels to come out and vote during the elections. It does not matter who the democrats nominate, as long as the republicans nominate Trump, the anti-Trumps (who are far more in number than the trumpists) would come out massively.
Remember the 2022 elections was about Trump and that's was why the democrats were able to keep the Senate and avoid a blowout in the house.
PoliticsRe: Petrol Stations Ration Fuel As Marketers Shun Importation by wirinet(m): 7:59am On Aug 25, 2023
ambale:
Has it been proven? Yes or No? Cos until we see some of the marketers being prosecuted for the scam policy as your government said, theres no subsidy in my books
Thank you for asking the pertinent question. If there is indeed a subsidy scam, where is the evidence? Who has been investigated for subsidy scam before we even start talking about prosecution?

Then the real question is "is there really subsidy"? The government told us that NNPC had a crude oil swap agreement with refineries abroad, whereby we give them crude and they give us fuel while they keep the other by-products, who is NNPC paying subsidy to again?
Nigeria will never make progress until we resolve the subsidy question of the last 20 years. Some people needs to be shot as restitution for the actrocities they have commited against our motherland.
PoliticsRe: Petrol Stations Ration Fuel As Marketers Shun Importation by wirinet(m): 9:16am On Aug 24, 2023
maasoap:
That's why I didn't get it when I saw some people here giving their full support to petrol subsidy removal. I'm sure it is becoming clearer to some of them that this policy is nothing but economic suicide mission.
It's either got to do with selfish self interest or primordial sentiments such as tribalism, religious affiliation or political correctness.
PoliticsRe: Petrol Stations Ration Fuel As Marketers Shun Importation by wirinet(m): 9:00am On Aug 24, 2023
jumper524:
Obviously some bodies are hell bent in making sure subsidy returns.
I mean even though this report is pure false as no fuel shortage in any Abuja stations which I can confirm, some element are still sponsoring this reportage.

The naira didn't loose value so why the forceful negative speculation of making things hard?
Who dey sponsor these people sef??
The negative economic impact of removal of subsidy is far worse than the keeping it despite all the corruption associated with it. The problem of the subsidy regime was corruption and not the subsidy itself, afterall Nigeria was not the only country with a subsidy regime. Instead of Tinubu to fight corruption within the subsidy regime, he found it more convenient to fight the poor masses instead, because the beneficiary of the subsidy theft are his friends and political associates.
PoliticsRe: Petrol Stations Ration Fuel As Marketers Shun Importation by wirinet(m):
Tinubu's mission is to nuke the already fragile Nigerian economy. As of today, most small businesses are shutting down. The ones still opened have little or no Patronage. University of Ibadan is thinking of a 3 day working week for its staff. Even transporters are finding it hard as people either trek or stay at home. Is this the way to run an economy?

I shudder to think of what the Nigerian economy will be like and the consequent security challenges one year from now.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m):
WonderMan76:
A few inquiries is what you call weaponized? LMAO. Baba stop moving in circles. Tell me when a Republican led government ever used its DOJ to indict a former Democrat president or Major Democrat candidate. That’s the level we are talking about. They could have easily gone after both Bill and Hillary Clinton. But I assure you Biden won’t be spared.
They did go after Bill and Hillary Clinton aggressively, but they found nothing. Trump's tag line for the 2015 elections was "Lock Her Up"
You think if Trump has any evidence of a crime by Hillary Clinton, he will not go after her directly.

Trump demanded directly Jeff Sessions investigate Hillary Clinton.
American Oversight has uncovered the signed directive from former Attorney General Jeff Sessions instructing a federal prosecutor to carry out President Trump’s authoritarian demand to investigate Hillary Clinton.

The document, obtained through Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) litigation by American Oversight, is a formal, November 2017 letter from Sessions to U.S. Attorney for Utah John Huber and has never before been released to the public. In a sworn declaration filed in November 2018 in response to American Oversight’s lawsuit, the Justice Department had insisted that no written directive existed and that all guidance to Huber had been delivered verbally.

Trump has repeatedly tweeted demands for DOJ to investigate Clinton. Throughout the 2016 presidential general election campaign and at multiple rallies after taking office, Trump and his supporters have used the rallying cry “Lock her up” to call for the prosecution of Clinton.

“’Lock her up’ was wrong at campaign rallies, and it’s even worse coming from the Department of Justice,” said Austin Evers, American Oversight executive director. “Even after this long, it’s still deeply shocking to see the black-and-white proof that Jeff Sessions caved to President Trump’s worst authoritarian impulses and ordered a wide-ranging investigation of his political opponents based on demands from Congress instead of the facts and the law.”
https://www.americanoversight.org/sessions-letter
Which of the Bidens are you talking about? If you are talking about Hunter Biden, then you guys have can knock yourselves out. If you are referring to President Biden, you guys need to alleged a valid crime first, then present evidence before a grand jury to obtain an indictment first, then take the indictment before a jury in a competent court to obtain a conviction. Up till now there is no evidence of a crime by Joe Biden.

Trump is a walking crime magnet. All his activities - political, business or social involves criminality. He induces crime in everyone he interacts with.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:06am On Aug 20, 2023
WonderMan76:
🤣
And phone conversation between Joe Biden and his son is now a crime? It seems the Republicans have no other legislative or policy agenda apart from Hunter Biden. His phone calls, his business life, even his sex life is a legislative agenda to be discussed on the floor of the house.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:00am On Aug 20, 2023
WonderMan76:
Meanwhile in Africa; shit is getting real. Russia is not playing around. America and the west will be soundly defeated if they interfere in this. The people of Africa are fully behind the efforts of those fighting to end western Neo-colonialism and exploitation on our continent.

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BREAKING: A Russian plane has landed in Niger capital, Niamey, carrying hundreds of Wagner fighters it allegedly picked up from Syria. Wagner has recruited thousands of veterans of the Syrian civil war, mostly men who fought on behalf of the Syrian government and defeated ISIS, Al-Qaeda and the FSA. These men have incredible combat experience against terrorists. Syria is one of the first places where Wagner proved its combat superiority to the whole world. Without their efforts, the Syrian president would’ve gotten the Gaddafi treatment from the west a long time ago. But he prevailed. Thanks to RUSSIA and its elite fighting force, Wagner PMC.

Upon arriving Niger, Wagner had reportedly told the new Nigerien administration never to worry about any foreign army on Niger soil and specifically assured the leadership that Wagner will take on the Americans head on, if they ever dare to get involved in the conflict with ECOWAS, or try to deploy their drones.

Not sure if this threat is in anyway connected with America’s sudden readiness to evacuate two of its drone bases in Niger. The US maintains in Niger a large base of reconnaissance drones operating across AFRICA, Europe and the Middle East, as well as about 500 troops. France maintains a little over 1,200 soldiers in Niger.

At the moment, there are about 5,000 RUSSIAN funded volunteer fighters in AFRICA: They are mainly active in Mali, Libya, Sudan, Central African Republic, Mozambique and the Democratic Republic of Congo.

As reported earlier, Wagner will undertake the protection of the presidential palace in Niamey and the main infrastructures of the country potentially threatened by the impending Nigerian-led military action. With a personnel capacity of about 230,000 men, Nigeria is expected to contribute far more soldiers to the operation than any other country in the bloc. However the two countries with the strongest armies in AFRICA, Egypt and Algeria have warned against any military intervention in Niger, and vowed they’ll not stand idly and let that happen.

Reportedly, the morale of Niger’s military personnel is at an all time high right now, given that nearly the entire population of Niger are in support of the military and thousands have reportedly signed up to fight with the Russian volunteer force, Wagner PMC, in defense of their homeland.
Tinubu will be the most stupid human being on earth if he actually goad ECOWAS to attack Niger Republic. Niger coup was not the first in Africa and it will not be the last. In fact under General Buhari, there were 3 or 4 coups in ECOWAS countries,and Buhari did not utter a word. A war in Niger will completely destabilize not only Nigeria, not only West Africa, but the whole of the African continent. Africa would be the new battleground for the proxy war between US and its allies and Russia in alliance with China.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 8:52am On Aug 20, 2023
basilico:
Theyshould be happy yes. Whythe cases did not proceed in the first instance? The subpoenas would have worked.
I am not sure about this but after 24 months the states can erase all data related to the elections.
Which I think many have, the most possibly damning evidence of machine logs, ballot verifications, video footage, email communications etc has been wiped out. Witnesses who had filed affidavits may have moved, died,been disappeared or blackmailed.
So the DAs can now proceed and charge anyone, knowing there is little evidence to be availed.
Trump and his distinguished fellow indictees will have to rely on bodies like voterga, 2000mules.
Just total Dem corruption.
Wild allegations without any semblance of reality. First and foremost the Georgia elections was conducted and ratified by Republicans and not democrats. The current governor and secretary of state are still all republicans.
Please be informed that according to the US constitution elections are a purely state matter.

Secondly, Georgia's ballot had been recounted multiple times - at least 3 times and no fraud was uncovered.
Thirdly, since you guys have been shouting "rigged elections" since 2019, particularly in Fulton County, one would have thought you made the allegations based on evidence you already have. It's inconceivable that you guys want to start searching for evidence now. I thought you guys already have all the affidavits you need. Please note affidavits by itself does not constitute evidence without physical evidence.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 4:20am On Aug 20, 2023
basilico:
Lies by the feds to show Biden won.
At the time the video was taken, where were the rest ofe poll counting team..
They had gone home , Because ey had been told there was a toilet leak. The audio clearly captured Rudy saying they increased the count
At the same time,four other swing states stopped counting.
Trump leading in all of them.
Shouldn't you guys be happy that the case us finally going to court? Trump's lawyers now has subpoena powers and can subpoena anyone including Ruby Freeman or any other election official to prove his election fraud claims. In fact all his lawyers that claimed they have evidence of election fraud in Georgia has now been presented with a golden opportunity to present those evidence including Sidney Powell (with her kraken).
BusinessRe: CBN Lifts Ban On BDCs, Introduces New Operational Mechanism by wirinet(m): 11:47am On Aug 19, 2023
oz4real83:
Dumb policy coming out again, the BDC operators don't determine the value of our currency, the level of productivity of our country determines the value the naira will have, too much foreign exchange is leaving the country through import, foreign education, healthcare and others, with just little coming in, an economy dies when such a situation happens embarassed. Fix the economy, power, repair our refineries, provide quality healthcare and education, stop dollarising party primaries, effectively fight corruption in all sectors and watch the naira will come back to life shocked
Ko ju iyen lo (en o pass that). But government and its supporters would be beating around the bush with useless ill thought out policies that tend to exasperate the problem.
BusinessRe: CBN Lifts Ban On BDCs, Introduces New Operational Mechanism by wirinet(m): 10:49am On Aug 19, 2023
Rich4god:
Above all... Just like you said, the best way to go about this issue is to increase our productivity that will reduce demands for imports.

I want you all to follow the track of Alex Otti. Politics apart, ABIA state will soon be transformed. For now, the first step is to rehabilitate all the roads before enhancing the industry.
I am glad that you agree that only way out of our economic doldrums is increasing productivity. Nigeria is a very unproductive country.
I hope Alex Otti is able to improve productivity and quit relying on handouts from Abuja as done by almost all other governors.

Now productivity starts from Education, and when I say education, I mean practical education relevant to the economy. I don't see getting a degree in astronomy as relevant education when we don't have an observatory. A sane government must invest heavily in education, at least primary and secondary education. Its only educated and skilful people that can be productive. Illiterates end up being Abgeros, IPOB, militants or Boko Haram. Then investment in infrastructure is a must, particularly power. All human activities are driven by power.

All Tinubu's policies since may 29 has led to increase in productivity. I cringe when I hear some state governments want to revert to a 3 day working week or than Unibadan want to give its staff a 3 day working week. Can you imagine the impact on our already abysmal educational system? And the graduates of these universities are expected to compete in the world market.

Read up on how China was able build a modern advanced society in 30 years.
BusinessRe: CBN Lifts Ban On BDCs, Introduces New Operational Mechanism by wirinet(m): 10:28am On Aug 19, 2023
Rich4god:
O boy.... You don't know what you are talking about.

Let's even forget about all I mentioned before. Have you heard of the I and E window. Do you know whats going on there? Abi you will still ask how they get the dollars too.
I have been a business nan for over 20 years, I am not a white collar worker or a civil servants. I understand the practical aspects of business.

All these policies are window dressing, they cannot address the elephant in the room, which is low or dwindling productivity against growing demand. A sane government would invest heavily in increasing productivity and not curtailing and stifling businesses. What will increase productivity? - Constant and relatively cheap power, less government restrictions, some degree of currency stability, available and relatively cheap capital, actual regulations by government agencies. CBN and the banks are behaving like partners instead of regulators.
BusinessRe: CBN Lifts Ban On BDCs, Introduces New Operational Mechanism by wirinet(m): 10:18am On Aug 19, 2023
owagbeba:
Honestly I don’t know what you are getting at, but if CBN is letting BDCs back into the FX market, and allow them to buy from FX market and sell within a band, doesn’t it mean CBN will allow them to buy FX in CBN regulated FX market. Aren’t we back to the system of old?
Don't mind them very confused people. They will introduce one useless policy, when the economic repercussions starts biting, they quickly reverse policy. By then we are far worse than where we were. Examples are Naira redesign policy, fuel subsidy, BDCs and now I and E window.
BusinessRe: CBN Lifts Ban On BDCs, Introduces New Operational Mechanism by wirinet(m): 10:06am On Aug 19, 2023
Rich4god:
AHH... CBN gets steady flow of dollars from remittances, FDI and export proceeds.
How many Nigerians send remittances through the banks when Binance is there. Check Binance P2P naira page and you will see people trading N50 million at a go.

How many FDIs have entered Nigeria this year to have any dent on the exchange rate?

Export proceed simply means crude exports. You are aware that over 80% of our foreign earning is from crude. Now, Nigeria currently exports about 1.2 million barrels per day, far less than our export quota of 1.2 million barrels per day. Under Jonathan we were exporting 2 million barrels per day. Now after deducting cost of production and the joint partners share of 40%, how much is left for Nigeria to shore up our currency?
BusinessRe: CBN Lifts Ban On BDCs, Introduces New Operational Mechanism by wirinet(m): 9:52am On Aug 19, 2023
Rich4god:
This is the best thing. There is no need having two different exchange rate. No matter what CBN does, as long as the average man can go to BDC and purchase dollar, there will always be disparity between official rate and black market.

What CBN need to do is to ensure that dollar is not in the hands of the citizens. Any one that needs dollar for importation, school or health should go and bank and bank will make the payment for them. All the local schools and organisations that transact in dollars should be discouraged. Some wealthy individuals will just use naira to buy dollars only to pile it up in their dorm accts. All these are part of what is making price of dollar skyrocket at the black market.

If CBN wants to achieve a little stability, they should starve the BDCs of dollar so that the average citizens cannot easily access it.
The banks are the main problem. Let me give you one info you will not get elsewhere - the banks make most of their profits from round tripping. I knew someone that was an aid to Tony Elumelu when he was was at Standard Trust Bank. He revealed to me Tony himself and Standard Trust Bank were raking in billions from buying from CBN and selling through BDCs to ordinary citizens. The situation remained the same or even worse under Emefiele.
BusinessRe: CBN Lifts Ban On BDCs, Introduces New Operational Mechanism by wirinet(m): 9:40am On Aug 19, 2023
Rich4god:
Read with your financial mind. CBN said BDC will sell dollar at a specified spread. How will that be possible if not that CBN will be the one giving them the dollar.

As at 3 years ago, CBN were giving BDCs dollars before they latter stopped.

And even at that, CBN found it difficult to control the prices at which BDC sell.
Where does the CBN hope to get the dollars to sell to BDC?
BusinessRe: CBN Lifts Ban On BDCs, Introduces New Operational Mechanism by wirinet(m):
EngrKemp:
The real value of dollar to naira is less than N200.

The petroleum products import put lots of pressure on naira and constantly crashes it.

All past managers of nnpc in the last 20 years should face trial and persecution and all past petroleum ministers from 1999 till date should face sanctions and jail term .

Put our refineries in good shape and let us produce our own petroleum products..

Naira will bounce back to about N200 and the economy will become very productive.
Very simple economics 101 solution, but corrupt and lazy political elites make it sound like rocket science. How can you import over 70% of your energy (apart from importation of basic food items) and still expect your currency to appreciate.

Now if Nigeria is a sensible country we should turn Nigeria into an oil refining country instead of an oil (crude) exporting country. Since there is a huge demand for refined petroleum products and our neighbours are ready to buy petrol at what ever price. If the government like, let them increase petrol to N1000/litre, it will always get at least 30% more expensive in Benin Republic, Niger, Cameroon. Also piping gas to those countries which are less than 1000km from our huge gas reserves would make economic sense. I don't even see the need to pipe to Europe yet, piping to our immediate neighbours will fetch us billions of dollars. Imagine how much Russia makes from selling gas to its neighbours. Germany is betrothed to Russia today because of gas.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 1:25pm On Aug 18, 2023
budaatum:
Troubles me he took time to see what we saw. Shows lack of integrity or lack of sound judgement or both.
The way I see it is that he is a true republican and was hoodwinked by Trump, just like millions of other true republicans. Another example is Mike Pence. Trump is the real rino, he has no republican ideals, he only cared about power and he only rode on the emotions of true republicans to get thar power. Have you ever heard of a non religious, non principled republican before? True republicans are the most religious and principled people in the world. They are often prepared to die for their principles.
True Republicans (outside of the extremist MAGA movement) like Barr, Pence, McConnell, etc., tolerated Trump as long as he implemented republican agenda ie anti abortion, anti-LBGTQ, science denyism, and most especially republican judges in the courts. Many republicans could not stand Trump's excesses and bailed out before the 2019 election. Lincoln project were republicans that opposed the re-election of Trump. I am sure they will be even more aggressive if Trump wins the republican nomination. Other republicans started opposing Trump after the elections, where Trump lost the election up to the supreme court, but attempted a coup to remain in power. Smooth transfer of power is the hallmark of US democracy and Trump almost disrupted that.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 11:17am On Aug 18, 2023
WonderMan76:
In that case then just say you agree with his message now but don’t call him “a really honest republican”.
The honest in my description is used to qualify his republicanism and not his personality per se. It means Bill Barr believed in republican ideals and not betrothed to Donald Trump as a member of his personality cult. He said he agreed to serve under Trump because he believed his republican ideas, but resigned when became too toxic after the 2019 elections.

If he were honest, and if the things he’s saying now are what he truly believes then he would have been saying it when he was in power.
How do you expect an appointee to be attacking his boss and still be in power? He did the most honourable thing and resigned.

I think he’s just doing what he believes is politically expedient for him now because the tides have turned. Trust me if Trump gets elected again, he will change his tune again. That’s politics for you.
Agreed in politics anything can happen. But remember he resigned. So what do you feel he needs political expediency for now? To be appointed AG once again?
In fact there is no such thing as an “honest politician” that phrase itself is an oxymoron.
Agreed, particularly when it comes to material and power gains, but then there can be an honest republican or democrat, who don't compromise on its core ideals.
PoliticsRe: Bandits’ Leader, Dogo Jede, Weds 16-year-old Christian by wirinet(m): 9:28am On Aug 18, 2023
Konji is no respecter of religious extremism, racism or class. Boko Haram ready to neck devil worshiper, snow white Nazis ready to nack negroids as black as charcoal and high class bourgeoisie ready to nack a homeless hobo, just to relieve konji.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 8:23am On Aug 18, 2023
LordReed:
LMFAO! look at this cretin, you think I am like you to who lies are like food? Here is a quick video I made to show just how dumb you are with regard to this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b965mATZ9r8
You are wasting your time and energy responding to him. He talks like his life or livelihood depends on defending Trump. He stopped making sense a long time ago.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 8:14am On Aug 18, 2023
feedthenation:
Trump just canceled his “Major press conference” on Monday.

ABC News reported this morning that his lawyer warned him that spewing more lies about the election at the press conference can only complicate his legal problems
Just as we have seen saying all along - another Kraken.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 8:12am On Aug 18, 2023
WonderMan76:
I bet my last dollar you weren’t saying this when he was Trumps AG.
I can bet my last naira that you were right. But then people do have "Damascus Road experience", whereby their sense of guilt over rides their conscience.
why not attack the message instead of the messenger.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 12:00am On Aug 18, 2023
Good interview by Bill Barr on Trump indictments, Biden's investigations and current politics in general.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5NBlLgrEwA
Barr is a really honest Republican.
PoliticsRe: FG Approves N5bn Subsidy Palliative, 5 Trucks Of Rice For Each State by wirinet(m): 6:28pm On Aug 17, 2023
5 trucks of rice for each state? I hope it is a 33 tonne truck. Now a 33 tonne truck carries 600 bags, so 5 multiplied by 600 is 3000 bags of rice.
Lagos with an estimated population of 20 million means each person will get 0.00015 bag of rice which is 7.5grams of rice or 100 grains of rice.

In effect each Lagos residence will get 100 grains of rice.

Clowns
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:04am On Aug 16, 2023
basilico:
In reality it looks like the far left are looking to ignite a civil war. Started with Obama.
Zero grew the racial divide earning him a hall of fame entry as Divider in Chief.
It appears that they want America to be just that,. a normal third world country .
Civil war just because a black man (actually half blackman) became president? How did he grow the racial divide? Out of all the previous 44 presidents only the half black one would cause civil war? Its obvious the whites voted for a racist like Trump as a punishment for electing the first black president.
The Republicans are power hungry narcissists. Republicans cheated the democrats out of 2000 elections, they did not call for a civil war. The democrats narrowly lost the 2015 elections dispite winning the popular votes by 2.9 million votes, they did not call for a civil war.

Trump would lose again. He will refuse to conceed defeat and alleged the election was stolen once again. He will attempt another January 6 but this time more organized and more violent. He and his MAGA cult Members would be roundly defeated. Trump would spend the rest of his life in jail, after which he will be martyred by extreme MAGAs.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 8:09am On Aug 16, 2023
basilico:
Trump was elated by the support and love patriotic Americans were giving him.They trusted him and loved him to the chagrin of the left. Loved him so much that they laughed at the joke he made, saying they would stand by him even if he shot soneone
Anyone who has had literature classes know that he was saying this in jest.
Unlike you lefties who want to make it seem that his followers 75m are deplorables.
So Trump is now a jester or joker according to MAGAs.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IFqCJfUKlls?feature=share

I am expecting you guys to become full terrorists once Trump is convicted.
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump Charged With Conspiracy To Commit Forgery by wirinet(m): 11:49am On Aug 15, 2023
Amayabor1:
Hehehehe! Is that all you have to say? Trump the election thief will spend some time in jail.

I thought some of you said he won the election? All the courts threw out his case. He even lost at the supreme Court that has more Republican leaning judges. The Department of Justice said there was no evidence of election fraud. But clowns like you that live in one hole in Nigeria believed he won the election. Now, he is being charged to court for trying to alter georgia election result.

Una think say na him go give una Biafra abi? grin grin grin
Not only his Department of Justice, his family - Jared and Ivanka Trump did not accept the election fraud bullshit, even Fox admitted off camera that they did not believe the election fraud nonsense.

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