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I have refrained from commenting of this Tinubu-CSU forgery allegations up till now, because I believe we should move forward as a country and because I know people very close to Tinubu himself. Having said that I am someone that first of all love Nigerians (note I did not say Nigeria), also I have deceit, fraud and illegality. Lastly, I abhor tribalism, nepotism, whataboutism and diversion or obfuscation of issues. President Tinubu's supporters instead of dealing with the issues raised prefers to divert and obfuscate by attacking Atiku, obi, their supporters and anyone that does not agree with them. Others employ outright lies. Now, let's attack the real issues as presented by this article. Speaking on oath in the testimonies contained in a deposition made in the Office of Angela Liu, Atiku’s legal counsel, in Chicago, US, CSU Registrar, Caleb Westberg declared that President Bola Tinubu attended and graduated with honours from the institution in 1979. He in fact asserted that President Tinubu is the same person who attended the school from 1977 to 1979. “We believe Bola Tinubu who attended CSU is the same person who is the President of Nigeria today. Tinubu is an unusual name in the US. He matched the records in the file against the information provided by the student or on behalf of the student.”By this state it wrong to say that "asserted that President Tinubu is the same person who attended the school from 1977 to 1979." What they actually said was that CSU believed that President Tinubu is the same person who attended the school from 1977 to 1979 based on the records in the file from the information provided by the student or on behalf of the student. So they are being neutral and never asserted anything. They are protecting themselves from perjury or further litigation by either party. Yes CSU confirmed that Tinubu that applied for admission into CSU and graduated was Male, but the the issue was the certificates he used in gaining admission into CSU. The certificate he used in gaining admission into CSU indicated female. That Tinubu himself nor CSU did not notice or correct this anomalies until he graduated raises suspicion. Furthermore it raises further suspicion that the document from Southwest College contains no high school certificate or record. Can you be admitted into US colleges without a high school certificate? This statement is misleading and false. The registrar stated that he did not know where Bola A Tinubu got the certificate he submitted to INEC and then speculated maybe he got it from a third party vendor, be never insinuated that the diploma was in their possession at anytime before someone picked it up. Let me add that the registra in trying to protect his institution from negligence or malpractice has put the CSU, the Chicago education and even the US educational system in dispute. How can someone say diplomas are merely ceremonial in the US educational system? Yes, many employers in the US do not ask for certificates when employing, that does not render them ceremonial or useless. Even CSU was accredited as a diploma awarding institution by relevant authorities. It is like saying you can obtain a doctor's or nurse's license without submitting your certificate. Then the issue of third party vendors is crazy. How will the third party vendor know the academic record of the students without cooperation from the university? These third party vendors, are they appointed by the University or they can be any business centre any where in the world including Oluwole? Why would a person pay and use third party vendors, when there are provisions for obtaining replacement certificates directly from the university at very little cost? I am sure the Chicago State governor will look into this Tinubu certificate saga. |
DeepSight:Is Appoint Olanipekun up to the rank of Assistant Commissioner of Police or its equivalent? Olanipekun was simply a lawyer for the EFCC, he has no training or experience in investigations or forensic. If he can become EFCC chairman despite legal provisions, then another staff like driver, cleaner in EFCC can become chairman. |
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Built2last:Tinubu has set the bar even higher. Buhari did not only appoint from the his native region- northwest, he appointed from all over the North. But Tinubu with his "Yoruba lokòn" philosophy is only appointing from the southwest, his Yoruba tribesmen. That's taking nepotism to whole new level. The next president might appoint only from his state. |
DeepSight:That's the law. Except you guys are saying that Nigerians should jettison the law and start operating as a lawless society. Under the current EFCC act Olanipekun Olukoyede is not qualified to be appointed EFCC chair. |
greyvirgo:Yes, you (or your friends) must pay when you bring your friends over. That's part of marketing, you are bringing your friends to patronise your wife's business. You feeling hungry and ordering food for yourself is another thing entirely. Except you are telling me you were/are not involved in your wife's business at all, then she can be excused for charging you for eating at her restaurant. Even at that she is still obligated to feed you and not leaving to be eating at restaurants. I have lots of experience with restaurants in London. They give staff some free food. Even Macdonalds allow staffs to eat a free meal (excluding the expensive foods). Those Nigerians screaming business don't mix with relationships don't know the fundamentals of business. Business is about building relationships. Relationship with your staff, relationship with your investors and certainly relationships with your customers. I currently run three business and sometimes I have to bend over backwards to build and maintain my business relationships. Asking your husband and children to pay for food in your restaurant is a very bad idea. One day you too will definitely need a favour or help from your children or husband, how will you feel if they bill you? |
Pepperoyinbo:Don't mind them? The wife too should pay anytime the husband use his car to take her anywhere, especially if he use his car to help her carry foodstuffs for the restaurant. |
tunize:Sorry to say you guys have no idea of business - practical business that is. What you are expert at is book business. Business read in text books. A restaurant that cannot grow because a husband eat free food is not a business. I am sure she eats without paying also. As I said, the quantity of food the husband eats is the same quantity he will eat at home. This means the family is not eating well to begin with. |
juman:So if they woman is the breadwinner, she should not cook or feed her husband again? Eating at the restaurant or eating at home, what's the difference in terms of cost? |
vikstandon:I am trying to understand your point. Are you saying that since "business is business", a husband should not in anyway be involved in his wife's business? If any problems or challenges happens in the business, the husband should either ignore or bill the wife to help out. For example, if the shop is damaged one way or the other, the husband should bill the business to fix it. If agberos disturbs the wife's business, he should just look and not show concern, because the wife's business is not his own business. Please let me understand. |
juman:So why will the husband give the wife money, when she herself is so selfish that she can't forgo a few hundred naira in real terms for feeding her husband. The food is not not even considered sacrifice, because if the husband eat at her restaurant, he will not be able to eat at home again. That saves the woman the effort and ingredients for cooking for the husband at home. Meanwhile, he must have paid for the food stuffs at home apart from contributing to her food business. |
Dochido:Food is different from goods. Its the responsibility of a wife to privide food for her husband, and likewise it is the responsibility of the husband to provide for food for the wife. |
Menclothing:If the restaurant like let it be 10 star, i will still find it insulting for me to pay. I know a lot about restaurant business, I have worked in a 5 star restaurant before (not in Nigeria though), my wife currently runs a small eatery I opened for her. He sales girls practically kneel down to greet anytime I walk in, so if i ask for snacks, the sales girl will ask me for money. That day, it is me that will sack the girl. No matter how many stars the restaurant is, the production cost is the same and its extremely cheap. Believe me the actual cost of the food ingredients is very cheap. I drive my wife to mile 12 every last Sunday of the month to buy food ingredients both for the house and the shop. So i know how much she spends on preparing her snacks. When my office was on V/I a childhood friend and his wife open a very thriving restaurant on V/I. Just because the guy and I were very close, my friend and his wife told their staff not to be collecting money from me whenever I order food. This was an expensive restaurant. Shame was even catching me then, that I rarely ordered for food. Most times, I send my partner to go and buy the food. So if a friend's wife could show such love and magnanimity, then what about her husband? Imagine a wife asking her husband to pay for food he eat in her restaurant. That's not a marriage but a business arrangement. It seems most Nigerians have forgotten the meaning of marriage. |
Menclothing:Car and food are two completely different things. Cars are not marriage duty of either husband or wife. If a man buys a car for his wife, he will not demand payment for it. |
juman:We are not talking about his friends. It's not the wife's duty to feed her husbands friends. Her duty stops with her husband and the children. |
Ahmed0336:If its just because of what the husband eats that makes the business crumble, then the business is not a viable business in the first place. How much exactly can the husband eat in real terms? Are you telling me there are no leftovers or wastages? Does the wife pay for the food the eats in her restaurant? It will be an insult, yorubas call it arinfin, waffi guys call it see finish, for my wife's sales girl to bring a bill to me (her madams oga), to pay for food I eat in her restaurant. If she needs money to put into her business, we can sort that one at home. Finally, most businesses ran by wives were probably set up by the husband. |
bassdow:I go to Arena regularly, can you please link me up with where you get those fans? I need some urgently. I am also not an engineer, I in fact studied architecture, but I have always been fascinated by electronics. Incidentally, I was just discussing with my wife about the uselessness of our certificates this morning. Normally universities should be an ivory tower for looking for solutions to the countries problems, but Nigerian universities are just certificate awarding institutions with zero input on the countries technological and even social problems. Its only in Nigeria that you will find so many doctors and professors of engineering, but no single solution professed to solve basic engineering problems. What exactly they are professing is a mystery. You that is not a professor and not even a master of electronics and electrical engineering can think of a simple solution to our power problems, but we have hundreds of professors and thousands of masters of electronics engineering and they are suffering the same power issues as every one else. |
Chichilas:Cool down. The amount of stress we are all passing through in this country is enough. No need over stressing yourself over a small issue. I know he did not handle it well, but then you too don't know the frustrations he too is passing through. Doing business in Nigeria is a very difficult thing, you don't have control of situations and you have no protections whatsoever from the government's. In fact the government even adds to the frustrations. You gain nothing by bringing zeestone99 down. Infact you guys have been friends and have done business for over 5years. |
zeestone99:I understand your frustrations, but a GOOD customer is always right. If you imbibed that philosophy, you would not have been impatient and not let the issue escalated. A simple explanation and apology would have sufficed. Next time if you don't have, tell him to source the cables somewhere else. About your boy witnessing the measuring in front of him. My brother, in terms of business don't trust anyone, particularly a nigerian. Unless you did the measurements yourself, don't stick out your head for anybody. Those Alaba boys are magicians with both the tape rule and measuring scale. They would measure something in your front to be complete only to get home and measure it yourself and it becomes short. Me, I have experienced it all. I don't think Chichilas is lying or being unnecessary difficult, especially since this was the second time he is complaining on the same issue. He is genuinely upset. Just apologise, make it up to him one way or the other. You could invite him for a drink or send him the money for a drink and forget the whole episode. It's just not worth the anger and bad feelings. |
loluskysat:I have no doubt that zeestone99 has apt knowledge of what is selling or that you were satisfied with his services. The issue at hand is the experience of another customer who did not get customer satisfaction. I am a businessman with over 20 years experience. Customer satisfaction and feedback is key to business. I just pointing out that this misunderstanding could have been handled much better. |
bassdow:I also had the same question when I was still into solar power/alternative energy about a decade ago. It does not make sense to start with 12v DC, invert to 220v AC and then step down again to 12V DC using very expensive and sometimes fragile inverters. Why not connect the your 12v DC appliance directly to your battery or solar controller. I did a few experiments then and it worked perfectly. I bought a 12 TV and connected it directly to a 12 v battery and then connected the battery to a 200watts solar panel. (I didn't even use a solar controller). I was able to watch TV with DSTV when the sun was shining. I didn't continue the experiments as I had numerous commitments that made me travel a lot. Most electronic appliances like TV, Decoders, Laptops, sound systems, LED lights, etc eventually get stepped down to between 12 - 20vDC so a simple step up or step down converter would suffice. When I have time, I will order for some bulk converters from alibaba. |
zeestone99:Very bad business ethics. Customer satisfaction should be a big part of your business philosophy for long term survival and success. The customer already made his concerns known before ordering based on previous order. You should have told him the truth that you have no control the cable length as you are a vendor or tell him the actual length of a labelled 100 yard cable is actually 80 yards. I know that is the standard practice among those alaba international sellers. Even after the customer complaint you should have simply apologised and offer to refund the extra N20k. This would have made him happy and a repeat customer. You have now only now lost a long term customer but also businesses he would have brought you in future, all because of N20k. |
MaxW11:Quit tribalising this issue, if it is about non northerner Tinubu would not smell the presidency. It was northern votes that won Tinubu the presidency. If we add up all southern votes, Tinubu lost the southern votes. Most of the people against Tinubu are southerners, including his native yoruba tribesmen. That is because some Yorubas don't support criminality. Icons like Late Gani Fawehinmi, Fela Kuti, Tunji Braithwaite, Taiwan Solarin, etc, didn't support criminals based tribal sentiments. If you remove your tribal tinted glasses, you agree see that Tinubu has a criminal past and lots of unanswered questions. First of all the certificate he presented to INEC was forged. This much we learnt from the CSU court deposition. Yes he graduated from the school, but he failed to collect his certificate. Secondly, the certificates he used to gain admission into CSU were forged. There was no Government College Lagos when he claimed to have obtained an O/level certificate there. Under normal circumstances CSU would investigate the issue with a view of withdrawing their diploma if it was determined he did not meet their admission criteria when he was admitted. As they day in law, you cannot build a structure on a faulty foundation. Having said that, I doubt these allegations are enough for Tinubu to lose the presidency. There are lots of loopholes which his lawyers can exploit. In Nigeria laws for the elites are very ambiguous and depends on the personality involved. You don't even need a school certificate to become a president. About the forgery case, his lawyers will argue you cannot forge something that you are entitled to, and I am 100% sure the sure the supreme court will agree. The Nigerian supreme court can never rule against an incumbent, it had never happened. |
DeepSight:I read you link on Japan, it still collaborates my stance. The apparent disagreement is in the definition of atheism. Strict atheism means lack of belief in Gods, spirits, spiritualism, the unseen, etc., while liberal atheism accommodates spirits, spiritualism, the unseen and even gods, the difference being lack of a creator God or a personal God who cares about how you go about your life. Now, there are very few strict atheists, most fall within a spectrum between the two extremes. Buddhism can be said to fall into the category of liberal atheism. When I refer to Japan as a predominantly atheist country, I am using the Nigerian criteria where anyone who does not believe in a personal God is termed an atheist. Over 99% of Nigerians believe in a person God, whereas this figure is less than 15% in Japan. When I am talking about materialism, I mean the crave for material possessions. Theistic religions lure new members by promising all sorts of material rewards - both in this life and in the afterlife. Their priests and even their gods demand material gifts from adherents to be considered worthy of blessings and favours. This is not found in atheism. Yes, the atheism believes all that matters is here and now and tries to make the best use of his limited time. The theist believes that they have eternity to enjoy material sensations - either spiritually or physically, and so have numerous chances to sin and repent until the last breath. Please let me add that recorded human history is approximately 5,000 years. Within that time, theism governed people lives and behaviour for over 4,700 years. It was just about 300 years when people began to question and indeed challenge religion and reason started taking over that human development started to accelerate. As more and more people began to question the Gods, such societies began to accelerate in human and social development. I still reiterate that highly religious societies remain unstable and underdeveloped in comparison to the highly atheistic ones. |
Aemmyjah:Yes atheism brings about good morals in a society. If you carry out a survey of predominantly atheist countries and predominantly religious countries, you will discover that predominantly atheist countries are usually far more moral. Examples are the Scandinavian countries, Japan, Czech Republic, etc. Crime rates in these countries are very low. Contrast to highly religious countries like Nigeria, Afghanistan, South American countries, etc, where crime rates are very high. Atheism solves human problems of greed, crime, tribalism by not emphasising materialism. It does not promise you material wealth both in this life and the life beyond. Atheism means you have no one to blame your failings and evil deeds on, you take responsibility for all your deeds. No devil, no Satan, no witches, no village people, so you become more careful and thoughtful of your actions. |
It's been confirmed, Bola A Tinubu that graduated from Chicago State University is indeed a boy. Further more the certificate obtained and presented is original and valid. That's all that's needed in the on going litigation at the supreme court. President Tinubu has one this case, Atikulates and Obidients better sheath their swords or better still sharpen their swords in readiness for the next election. For now they should join hands with the agbadoans to move this country forward. The pains being experienced by ordinary Nigerians is excruciating. We have far more important issues than crying over the last elections. |
Anxiously waiting for the most anticipated gender reveal in history.
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raskymonojendor:The bone of contention since 1999 had been Tinubu's academic background and records. All his academic records he submitted to INEC had been challenged and it was never really resolved. There has always been the allegation that he is impersonating someone's else's identity and certificate. This is what this current court case is about. Atiku and Tinubus distractors are alleging that either Tinubu got into Richard Daley's college or into Chicago State University with stolen identity. What Atiku is after are the admission documents he used in getting admission into Chicago State University including social security number and his passport photograph. Then the actual degree he was awarded and when he graduated. A quick aberration in the letter you presented. I find it quite suspicious that the university registrar is saying that both the diploma awarded Tinubu and the certified true copy are different and valid. How? A certified true copy of a document is simply a copy of the document that is certified by a certifying officer. It should be an exact copy of the original document save the stamp and signature of the current date. A certified true copy cannot have different logo, different fronts and different original signature. The registrar should just have said a brand new certificate was issued instead of calling it"Certified True Copy ".
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jahsharon:False. In a sane supreme court in a sane country where justice is supreme, additional evidence is accepted if it was not available at the time of the lower court judgement and if it is fundamental to the case. It like someone already condemned for murder by the lower courts, and later DNA results came out that showed that the murder was carried out by someone else. The supreme court is a liberty to accept the new evidence and exonerate the condemned. But this is Nigeria's supreme court we are talking about. They have never ruled against the incumbent government in president election cases in the history of Nigeria. In 2007 they said INEC's failure to serialised the ballot papers did not invalidate the elections. In 2023 an election tribunal in Kano cancelled votes because the votes because the ballot papers were not stamped. I am almost 100% sure that the supreme court will find one technicality not to admit the new evidence particularly if it is very damning. Nigerians are confirming the world view that we are fantastically corrupt people. Our youths are into fraud, our pastors are conmen, our politicians are hardened criminals. No wonder we as a people are becoming a pariah in the committee of nations. |
DrGoodman:I am sure Tinubu will head to the supreme court. Since Tinubu said full disclose of his academic credentials will do severe harm to his life, that he will fight to it to the last. |
kingxsamz:Apart from violence, bible tales are too immoral and depraved for me. |
Biblical stories particularly old testament are too violent for an atheist/humanist like me. I cannot fathom how a supposedly benign being kills millions of his children violently in order to sooth his ego. |
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