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maestroferddi:
You think it is the senseless propaganda APC you people in APC use to deceive the unwary?

Where was the coup?

I don't want to believe that you are so minimalistic as not to know what a coup means...

I have provided you with the classic definition of a coup. What Trump did on Jan 6 meets the criteria for a coup.

Calitoscassius:
Some American were made to believe he is coup plotter, some Americans do not believe he is a coup plotter.


America is very divided, So many Americans supports Trump still. Joe Biden isn't a saint either.

It's not about what some Americans believe, its about the definition of what a coup is. The Oxford definition ofva coup is a sudden, violent, and unlawful seizure of power from a government.
Please note the keywords of violent and unlawful.
Majority of Malians support the recent military coup in Mali, that does not make it less of a coup.

Trump attempted to stop the transfer of power to Joe Biden and retain power using violence and other unlawful means. That's a classic definition of a coup.

bemeruca:
wirinet is a very stupid person.

I hope I am safe. This one you are declaring a fatwa on anyone that insult Trump.

Calitoscassius:
Okay, i did make it clear that you don't have to agree with my opinions neither do have to agree with yours. I doubt if Trump will be jailed anyway, there have being speculations that if he is jailed it would even fuel a very unrest and more divided America.

Let's wait and see!

If a coup plotter who plotted to overturn the results of an election and prevent the smooth transfer of power after an election would fuel unrest and divided America, then America deserves to be divided into two or more parts.

9jaBloke:
I actually like some of Trump's policies and it is within his rights to express dissatisfaction with the results of an election.

However, he overstepped with some inciting and unsubstantiated utterances that almost cost America its long established political stability.

You don't express dissatisfaction in an election by threatening the secretary of state (the election organiser) to find you votes.

You don't express dissatisfaction in an election by organising fake electors not represented by popular votes counted and approved by the State's legislature and executive, and scheme to replace them with the real electors.

You don't express dissatisfaction in an election by organising your supporters to distrupt the certification of results of an election and thus the declaration of the actual winner of the election.

You don't express dissatisfaction in an election by riling up your supporters to violence and put the lives of the Vice President in danger.
This speech is a call to violence no matter how MAGA cult Members tries to twist and turn it.

And we fight. We fight like hell And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”
“All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical-left Democrats, which is what they’re doing … We will never give up, we will never concede. It doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there’s theft involved.”
“Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that’s what this is all about … We will stop the steal.”
“Because you’ll never take back our country with weakness, you have to show strength and you have to be strong.”

The patriotic way to express dissatisfaction with the results of an election is through the court system anything other than that is a coup.

maasoap:
What will make the price fall? The fact that naira is losing value every week or the fact that price of barrel of crude oil may increase from the current price of 78 dollars?

If crude should dare rise above $100, we would be buying petrol above N1000, and that's not even considering the falling naira. No country and I repeat no country leaves its currency and energy to the vagaries of market forces at the same time. Economic thrives on stability. That's what enable entrepreneurs to make long term decisions. No entrepreneurs will invest in an economy with price fluctuations of currency and energy costs every day.

Dear Esteemed Customers, We At NNPC Retail Value Your Patronage,And We Do Not Have The Intention to Increase PMS Pump Prices As Widely Speculated, Please Buy The Best Quality Products at The Most Affordable Price at Our NNPC Retail Station Nationwide.

This means there will still be subsidy on petrol. This is because importers cannot sell petrol at the same price when dollars is N920 now as against 2 months ago when dollars was still N750.

As the market price of diesel at N920 per dollar is N900, the market price of petrol should be between N800 - N900, because the market prices of petrol and diesel are not to wide apart.

simply22:
If he did mot make that call, the outcome would be different, but some people did not understand that. When you read people's comment, you just shake your head.
Even the revving up of his supporters on Jan. 6 and sending them to the Capitol was terrible. If his Vice, Pence, had been hurt or any of the Legislators had been killed on that day, may be people would be able to see the seriousness of what the man did on that day. It was very, very serious.

You think MAGAs have the capacity to think logically when it comes to Trump? Even Trump himself acknowledge how hypnotised his followers are when he openly declared that he could shoot someone on 5th avenue in Broad day light, and his MAGA supporters will still cheer him. If Pence had been killed, they would have blamed antifa, Pelosi or the deepstate. Someone that rapes women and admits to raping women in public and his MAGA cult member are still supporting him, and in fact hailing him. Nothing Trump can ever do that would make extreme MAGA criticise him.

lanrefront1:
I said it, you're clueless because u just watch cnn. Because it's CNN that keeps saying there is no evidence.

Meanwhile there solid undeniable evidence about Joe and hunter Biden's corruption. Infact the evidences are so much they are overwhelming.

You've been brainwashed without even knowing it.

Try listening directly to the proceeding of the Judiciary Oversight Commitee instead of what CNN tells you

The one that James comer is always talking about smoke and fire and Jim Jordan always hoping to find something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuEITqtwIiE

bemeruca:
Which of them said he grabbed them by the pp? Accused you say.

E. Jean Carroll alleged he grabbed her by the pusšy in a store changing room. He was found liable in the court case and ordered to pay $5 million in damages.

hammerT:
Cococandy, i foresee civil war, if the witch hunt against trump dont end or anything happen to him.


When a man can face so much charges and still be in the leading poll, speaks volumes about the disposition of the nation.

Civil war because of one criminal? Mexico did not fight civil war when El Chapo was captured like a Bush meat. Colombia did not fight civil war when Pablo Escobar (who incidentally was the most powerful man in Colombia) was jailed. It is a common criminal like Trump that will now plunge US into a civil war because he is the leader of the MAGA cult.

bemeruca:
Trump use the word grab EM by the pp... Who is them? Was he talking about a specific person? No one has ever reported trump for grabbing them by the pp.

Trump went on to say when you are celeb, they let you do anything. This is true. It's also true for a popular guy in school. It's a locker talk

Only thicko's don't get this.

Dude, get a life... Stop living on nairaland

Bare faced and open lies. MAGAs can lie more than the devil itself. Over 25 women have come out to accuse Trump of rape/sexual assault.
You want to tell us you have never heard of Jean Carroll and Jessica Leeds?

No reasonable lady will allow you to grab her by the pp just because you are a celeb. That's your classic definition of rape (unconsented penetration). Obviously you guys are perverted.

Grabbing them by the pp has landed many celebrities in jail in both US and Europe including many Nigerian footballers.

basilico:
FDA last week at last did at last declare that doctors can prescribe Ivermectin to treat COVID-19.
They can do that now because Fauci:
Lied about ivermectin
Lied vaccines reduce spread
Lied on gain of function funding n knowledge to China WIV killer lab

Many of you empty headed liberals took us down on claims bout ivermectin. You called it a horse paste, not effective. In other words, you regurgitated leftie crap.


I finally get my reprieve after posting so much about ivermectin here. We were right all long, many chose to believe evil Fauci and his media.

I expect class action lawsuits. Doctors were fired, others called witchdoctors because they prescribed Ivermectin or HCL.
You believed the lying media, Some liberals here lack brains to think.

I'll not have my victory lap yet. Tht will come when Joe Brandon election is confirmed as stolen as
I have insisted.
I'm always proven right in the end.p
I take this opportunity to shame some fools here.

More science denyism. A statement from a lawyer is not a substitute for clinical tests and approval by FDA.

There is no way an antiparasitic drug can cure a viral disease. Biology doesn't work that way. Malaria drug can never cure hepatitis. Only antiviral drugs can cure virus diseases and antibacterial drugs can cure bacterial disease. A year one Biology student will know that.

Why have you MAGA cult member not question why Trump was not treated with Ivermectin or HCL when he came down with Covid19? He even has Dr. Demon sperm as member of the MAGA cult, and he did not use her. Instead he used new and scientifically proven medicine with qualified doctors.
Trump is same with Nigerian con artist parading themselves as men of God. When they need money they ask their own member to pay tithes, donate and sow seeds, but when members need financial help, the Pastors advice them to fast and pray, and still ask them to pay tithes, donate and sow seeds.

MentalCase98:
You are honestly a fool despite the size of that your head.

Let me tell you this FACT of life; Men talk dirty about women in private ALL the time. It’s a guy thing, an Ego thing. That’s how men try to impress each other when they are in private; by taking about their sexual conquests, often using vulgar language and there is nothing wrong with that. It’s PRIVATE talk.

That you don't see something wrong with talking about female and female sexual organs in a derogatory manner betrays your values and that of MAGA cult Members.

Let me correct that warped mindset. Not all men talk dirty about women and their sexual conquests. It's an irony that those who pretend to promote family values, religious values, anti abortion, premarital sex, etc., are the same people boasting about sexual conquests and vulgar language.
If that was said by a teenager, I would understand the need to boast to impress his peers, but a full married man gunning for to be the leader of a country, that's indefensible.

It would only be wrong if a man uses that language in public or directly to a woman. When Trump made those comments he was UNAWARE that he was being recorded. He thought he was just talking to a fellow man.

Whether aware or unaware he is being recorded, it betrays his depraved mindset. I would never grab any woman by the pusšy nor boast of having ever done it. I

Lie to me that if you were secretly recorded everyday of your life, you wouldn’t have a few embarrassing comments too?
You know what, you probably wouldn’t because you’re a total soy boy. I wouldn’t be surprised if you’ve never seen a woman’s nakednes before. They tend not to even like men like you. They usually go for the guys who privately talk like Trump did in that audio all the time. That’s the great irony here.

I am embarrassed at your view point. Personally I believe men that always boast of their sexual prowess are hollow, they've got no action. The real stallions don't make noise. They allow their conquests make the noise for them. Stormy Daniels testimony on Trump's sexual prowess is more revealing than any boasting by Trump.

advanceDNA:
Throne of his brother, king david?? Lol... u dont even know the story enough to know who is david ...
From ur chat..I can see u can read and write..
But u want me to show u a chapter u can google urself without...baba.....read the story urself and have ur opinion....opinion is free

I meant to write his king Solomon. Obviously, you should know his brother is king Solomon and not king David, his father.
Oya, I have corrected my self answer the question.

immortalmortal:
That's treason. Those days it was considered a treasonable offence if you slept with the king's wife or concubines or anyone the king has obviously slept with, let alone marriage.

But king Solomon eventually ended up marrying Abishag, his father's concubine, do you consider that treason?

advanceDNA:
Where ìn my comment did i say it is acceptable today..??

Killed for Asking for wife....?? Please go and read ur bible well if u have one and dont know the story.... he was killed for treason...he forcefulky took the throne with a sitting king still alive...

Adonija was murdered for treason? Please show me how he forcefully took the throne of his brother king Solomon.
I dey fear you people o. You are no different from ISIS.

chukkystar:
see ba, in the old Israel culture Kingship was also a popularity thing, reason why Saul hated David and why Absalom almost took David's throne while he was alive. David was a well respected King but He never announced His successor in public, He told only His Priest and His Wife Beersheba. If Adonijah had gotten David's Concubine as a Wife, He would use it as a tool to increase His popularity amongst the Israelites and also to make claim that He was the rightful heir given that He was the oldest son of king David. It is also to be Mentioned that Solomon had a love Hate relationship with many parts of Israel which is why immediately He died they broke off from His Son Rehoboam and left the Bloodline of David to rule Judah..

What you are positing still makes no sense. King David had numerous wives and concubines, so what made Abishag special that she determined who would be King? From the story, we are not even sure of the relationship between Abishag and King David. Some say she was brought in to warm is body and bed, but it was said she remained a virgin, meaning King David had not defiled/raped her.
As I said, King David had already been installed as King, I does not make sense that people will demand a change of Kings because one of King David's son married one of his concubines or wife.

Adonijah did not marry Abishag, defiled her or even approached her, instead he asked for permission from the king (his brother). His brother could have said no, then that's should have been the end of it. If Adonijah had gone ahead and had sexual relations with Abishag after David's refusal, then he would have had a point in murdering his brother, but he just became blood thirsty and murdered an innocent man.

budaatum:
All the cars banned in Europe end up polluting in Africa and we are not aware we are importing death. But then, we also put asbestos in our homes, so I guess we don't mind living on a flat earth.

We might of course reconsider when we fully become part of the Sahara Desert or when Lagos becomes a lagoon.

You are expecting too much of the blackmail if you expect him to think beyond today, in fact beyond the moment.

chukkystar:
Bethseba was the last Maiden that stayed beside King David B4 His death. Adonijah dragged the throne with Solomon B4 Solomon was chosen by king David. According to the accident beleive, if a son takes His Father's maiden, He also makes claim to all His Father's properties including the throne. Adonijah knew exactly what He was doing

But the throne had already been given to Solomon his junior brother, how would he have claimed their fathers throne because he married their fathers youngest wife. Besides king David had more than 8 wives.

Maynman:
Dialogue with theist is more weird, in a minute you will see them supporting genocides.
What did I accuse you?
Why exactly did you bring kim to the dialogue?
Is killing your family members because of a position a good or bad thing? I don’t understand
Out of all countries you brought the one that specifically matches the tyranny you want.

Which treason has to do with a woman?
Imagine it was kim jong un, moses went to meet that he wants to take his people out of his kingdom, would that have been treason?

The Op question was about right or wrong.

Theists - the Muslim and Christian variety seems to be the most wicked people on earth. They can justify murder, slavery, rape and stealing as long as it was carried out by their religious character. The same people thar says their religion gives them 10 commandments, though shall not kill, thou shall not covert, though shall not do this and that, are the same people that would find excuses to justify killings, adultery, rape and stealing by their own religious figures.

BigDawsNet:
Why Solomon Executed Adonijah

Adonijah Was Still Plotting Against Him

Solomon had to execute Adonijah his brother because the mere fact Adonijah could ask for his father's concubine is a sign he was still conspiring behind the scenes to oust him. If Solomon had not acted or didn't discern the implications of that request, he would have been known to be weak and naive. This would have further given the conspirators some leverage to facilitate a civil war later in Solomon's reign.

You people can't defend the indefensible in order to justify the actrocities of your favourite religious character. From the story it was obvious that King David just died and King Solomon had just been installed King (as there cannot be 2 Kings in a kingdom). Abishag the Shunammite, most probably a beautiful young slave girl was brought for the dying King David, to help easy his pains (don't ask my how). King David could not perform and indeed died not long after. Now slave girl is free and undefiled. Solomons brother now seeing this as the opportunity to have the young beautiful slave girl for himself, but he could not without the permission of the new king (his half junior brother). Instead of King Solomon to say no, and that he has eyes on the girl,his ego took over and decided to kill his brother for daring to like the girl he has eyes on.

basilico:
Climate change suggested solutions
This is a real cult. Reason has been thrown out of the window.

Repeat the phrase climate crisis on every opportunity.
Spray some chemicals in the air that will reflect the sun's direct energy from reaching the earth. Ridiculous.
JoeBiden is funding construction of two giant vacuumers to suck CO₂ from the air to store it underground or use it for industrial purposes.
[s]Matter can be never be created or destroyed[/s]
Agriculture is major contributor to climate change. Livestock needs to be culled, domestic pets need to stop fueling demand for beef & beef products, we need to go net zero, gas stoves, pizza coal stoves, home heating needs to be reduced drastically.

How did we get here?


1960s - "Oil will be gone in 10 years. We need millions to fix it."
1970s - "There will be an Ice Age in 10 years. We need millions to fix it."
1980s - "Acid rain will destroy all the crops in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
1990s - "The Ozone layer will be destroyed in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
2000s - "The glaciers will all melt in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
2010s - "The coast will be underwater in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
2020s - "Climate Change will kill us all in 10 years. We need trillions to fix it."

No difference between you guys and flat earthers. I was surprised that there are flat earthers on this site. I have actually argued with one, I left just shaking my head in disbelief and in pity.

You guys are simply science deniers, the history of civilization is replete with science deniers, From Heliocentricity, to Evolution, to Big Bang, to even covid and now to climate change.
The reason for science denyism is purely religion, once a science concept is in conflict with prevailing religious doctrine as interpreted in their religious books, they deny.

It unreasonable to suppose that burning of fossil fuels that started since the start of the industrial revolution did not have any effect on the atmosphere. Are you guys saying that carbon dioxide is not a greenhouse gas, or that all the carbon dioxide pumped into the atmosphere daily by billions of vehicles, factories and power generators won't have any climatic effect in the long run? If you guys are positing thar the climate change effects is being exaggerated, I will understand, but to deny it altogether is senseless.

basilico:
Stop challenging him. He cannot be believe he is wrong, He spews Twitter TDS garbage.
It's a real cult. Mind made up , he dare not seek the truth because it would break him apart.
I compare wirinet and Co to those 900 fanatics who took cyanide in the 70s.
Like robots They have been programmed into hatred.

This is Trump's style of deflecting his crimes. He accuses people of exactly the crimes he is involved with. His cult Members learn from him and use the same deflecting strategy.

Liberals don't worship any anyone, they don't even worship any religious figure, not to talk of a mere mortal. You will see many liberals critical of Joe Biden. Its an abomination for any MAGA cult Member to criticise Trump. They are worse than Muslim fanatics when it come to their religious figure. They become emotionally unstable when anyone insults their leader. They threaten violence, they spew out personal insults or begin to cry if they feel helpless to do anything. You can feel the emotional tears in the posts of Basilico, MentalCase and fellow nairaland MAGA brigade.

I am not particularly fond of Joe Biden, he is a typical career politician. My favourite US president was Ronald Reagan. But l love Joe Biden in comparison to Trump. Trump represents every negative character of a human being. He is a criminal - he has cheated everyone he engaged in business with. He holds no loyalty to anyone - not even his wives. He cannot sacrifice for anyone - not even his country.
I cannot even be friends with someone that worships Trump. Our values are diametrically opposite. I don't cheat, lie, or exploit poor and vulnerable people.

MentalCase98:
Another epistle filled with emotional gibberish that I can’t be bothered to read. What is wrong with you liberals?! Are you all incapable of answering questions directly and succinctly?

I asked you a simple question; was Trump EVER criminally indicted for all these multitude of crimes you guys accuse him of in the 70 years before he became president?

Yes or no. Simple.

Trump is a criminal. People closest to him outside his children don't have anything nice to say about him. Newyork where he lived snd grew up know him as a criminal. If you like go am strap a belt bomb and blow up yourself, it will not change the fact that Trump is a criminal.

bemeruca:
Conspiracy nuts

How come you don't believe biden is doing the same now. These people here

So can you prove to us that tax evasion is a civil offence and Al capone was put in prison with a civil lawsuit?

I will wait.

I know tax evasion is not a civil matter, but its not as serious as murder, extortion and drug trafficking which Al Capone was famed for.
I am typing on my bed partially awake, so am bound to make mistakes.

It will be difficult to catch criminal Trump on tax evasion even though he evades taxes. This is because he has an army of accountants and lawyers cooking his books. That's why he admits to tax avoidance, which to me is the same thing as tax evasion.

bemeruca:
Conspiracy nuts

How come you don't believe biden is doing the same now. These people here

Because Biden don't have a long history of conning people and definitely doesn't have over 4,000 legal cases in U.S. federal and state courts, million-dollar real estate lawsuits, personal defamation lawsuits, and over 100 business tax disputes. Biden also does not 25 sexual harassment and sexual assault accusations hanging on him.

bemeruca:
Which is why before you show interest to discuss about it... You should know what you are talking

I do not talk about transgenderism or gayism.

About Civil and criminal cases, I know about that very well. And I know that it's near impossible to catch crime lords on criminal charges, because they use fronts to cover their tracks and use expensive lawyers to cheat the system. The justice department catches them on civil cases like tax evasion, money laundering and class action suits.
A typical example was Al capone. Al Capone was never convicted of murder, extortion or drug trafficking, he was jailed for tax evasion.

bemeruca:
You do not know the difference between gay and transgender. A civil lawsuit is not a criminal lawsuit .

That's because I am not interested in such issues.

MentalCase98:
Many businessmen face countless civil lawsuits throughout their career. It’s a form of dispute resolution. It does not make one a criminal.

A criminal indictment is a COMPLETELY different thing.

Please refrain from opining on topics that you clearly don’t have the bandwidth to understand. You just make a fool of yourself.

See how I’m breaking down common law to you like a child. I feel embarrassed on your behalf.

Trump is not a businessman, he is a con artist. He cons people and use his wealth (which he got by conning people of course) to escape justice. He conned his siblings of the inheritance their father left for all his children and grandchildren. He invested in various ventures which all failed. He declared bankruptcy 4 times. He is the only businessman I know that could bankrupt a casino business. By 1991 Trump was $8 billion in debt according to his daughter Ivanka. It was Russian oligarchs that bailed out Trump by buying his properties at exorbitant prices, sometimes up to 3 times their estimated value.

I have known Trump since the 90s. I had a friend who was in love with him. He had his book "the art of the deal". He gave me the book to read, and after reading it, I concluded he was a criminal. And since then he has not disappointed me.

MentalCase98:
A civil lawsuit is not same thing as a criminal indictment you moronn

Are all liberals just illiterate or what? I can’t understand you guys.

I better heed the advice of not arguing with a madman/mental case, as they say passersby might not know the difference.

It's only depraved madmen that would worship a twice divorced, pussy grabbing liable rapist and conman as personal lord and saviour.

MentalCase98:
A “career criminal” that somehow never got investigated, indicted, convicted or incarcerated for over 65 years of his life till he ran for president as a populist?

How convenient.

Try use your brain sometimes. Not every time emotions.

Are you just deaf, dumb and blind or you are just pretending. Trump that had been investigated over a dozen times, indicted multiple times and found liable in numerous occasions (most times he pays his way out of law suits by settling out of court). The only thing that Trump has not faced yet is jail time, and we are waiting for the outcome of documents and Jan 6 cases.

A MAGA cult member asking someone to use his brains, what an irony.