₦airaland Forum

benalvino3:
it is funny seeing how fools don't like equal justice. i hope you have your dictionary with you.

Is that the defense you Magats have for the 37 indictments? I doubt that would fly in any law court. So because of equal justice for Trump we should never prosecute anyone ever again for crimes? Since there had never been equal justice in America, they better releases all convicted criminals, close the courts and shut down the police.

Obrigardo:
Has basilico loco started his annual leave?

He will come back with more ridiculous arguments. Imagine comparing personal audio interviews with intelligence and defense files.in what universe are the defense files of a country the property of the president?

SmartPolician:
Bola Tinubu should cut off those Nigerian neighbours because Nigeria doesn't have enough power to go round. That's what this discussion is about.

Their governments should supply them power; we cannot afford to shoulder their governments' responsibilities.

In economics, you supply what you have comparative advantage over, not what you are struggling to generate.

The most annoying part is that those countries are even owing Nigeria a lot of money in power supply, suggesting that Nigeria is playing the role of a Santa Claus in the WA subregion.


You no get sense, go sleep...

He cannot! Because we have an agreement to supply them some electricity in return for not damming the River Niger. If Benin, Niger and/or Mali should dam the river Niger, there would be no electricity to sell at Kainji.

solreb:
The witnesses have all come to state the facts that BVAS did not work when uploading results . What matters most at the end of the day is the election result. None of them have come to same the election results I signed are not the ones I was seeing now indicating that APC had been favoured. Until I start seeing evidences like that no shaking for BAT.

And what do you think all those boxes admitted in evidence contained? The will definitely reconcile the results given to Labour and PDP and those announced by INEC. These witnesses were called by the petitioner to establish that the non upload of the result was deliberately done by INEC to sabotage the process.

feedthenation:

---Waiting patiently for Trump's spin doctor (Basilico) to contribute his own spin to the indictment document---

He is still very busy scouring right wing white supremacists sites for spins he can copy and paste.

Lifestone:
Did the law says only Bvas could transmit results?

How else do you want to transmit results to Abuja and Mahmood started announcing results less than 24 hours after the close of elections. Election closed 6 PM on Saturday 25th February and by Sunday evening Mahmood Yakubu has started announcing results, how did the results get to Abuja? By WhatsApp or by Okada?

iSense247:
It's as good as not conducting an election. Why? Because such is against the electoral guidelines (rules).

They will argue that election guidelines are not legally binding and so we should continue with the way elections had been conducted since 1979, where results are just allocated irrespective of actual voting.

Baatunde:
This is exactly what I was going to ask also..... what are we deriving form these testimonies....that BVAS could not upload result and then what? Did that change any of the results recorded on the signed form EC8A...... from what was eventually declared?

THE lawyers should be prepared to show evidences that what was recorded on the EC8A forms were different from what was declared eventually at the final collation centre, otherwise trying to fault the election because BVA could not connect to IREV is a bloody waste of time bothering on technicalities.......

Yes it did. There are numerous allegations that the results changed drastically when the results got to the INEC state collation centre and the National collation centre in Abuja. The one of Rivers state is legendary.

Lifestone:
Bvas worked, it was used for accreditation. It was the Uploading of result into IREV that didn't function. Bad enough, the concern of PDP should have been demonstrating that the results declared is different from the actual votes. That's what I expected

BVAS did not work as intended. The BVAS machine was meant to accredit voters and then transmit the results to the Irev portal. It did accredit the voters but it malfunctioned when transmitting the presidential results.
Irev was supposed to make sure that the figures announced at the polling units is the same as the number of votes transmitted to inec headquarters. In previous elections the results magically change between polling unit and headquarters. So BVAS and IReV were supposed to work together to validate the election.

So explain why all the BVAS machines and the Server decided to malfunction at the same time.

Larryndelaw:
Which magnitudes. Nothing new in what the witnesses are saying. Everyone knows the result was not transmitted to the servers. So what's special about what they are saying. T

Why was the results not transmitted to the servers?

Lifestone:
I don't get the PDP, how does not uploading election results affect the outcome of the Election.

If INEC knew that uploading election results would not affect the outcome of the Election, why then introduce BVAS and IReV? Why assure Nigerians, the parties and the national assembly that it will employ BVAS and IReV to eliminate the controversies associated with manual collation of results in previous elections? Why collect N400 billion to from national assembly to employ the system?

DoTheNeedful:
These so-called witnesses keep saying the same thing. Is there any new information in these testimonies? We all know that INEC didn't upload the presidential election on the election day. PDP is just wasting the court's time.

Are you not interested to know why INEC did not upload the presidential election on the election day? Out of over 100,000 BVAS machines all with independent Internet connections, not one could connect to the INEC server?
Could it be that Amazon servers were down?
Could it be that all internet networks in Nigeria were down?
Could it be that none of INEC staff knew how to upload files on INEC server?
Could it be sabotage by INEC IT technicians?
Don't we deserve to know after spending N400billion on the system?

DeepSight:
The only issue I have with this is that it is universal and impersonal. It indicates nothing personal in life whereas the inner subjective life of each person is very personal and driven by personal goals and ambitions and I think thats what is being asked here.

The inner subjective life of each living thing (whether single cell or muticellular) is very personal and driven by personal goals and ambitions.

HellVictorinho6:
why?

To contribute your quota first to the general pool of your specie and then to the gene pool of life in general.

The purpose of all life is survival, survival first as an individual, survival as a specie and continuation of life itself. The first part of your life is geared towards getting you ready to reproduce, buy puberty nature uses all kinds of tricks to make you reproduce. After reproduction, the next goal is to care and groom the kids to survive and reproduce. After your productive years, the body prepares to go back to mother earth and become raw materials for the next cycle.

Obrigardo:
This is why I say you are a crack nut.

You have been bastardized by conspiracy theory, that you can't find the nuggets of facts in things you see online.

This was the last doc criminal trump declassified as he left office. This means the criminal knew the declassification process. And he never did that for the Iran attack doc he spoke about to Mark Meadows biographers at Bedminster.

Now you just made it clear criminal trump knew the declassification process, but why didn't he do the same for the now missing Iran attack docs? Why did NARA call on him multiple times to return back classified docs? and why the unnecessary coverup and shady cctv footage manhandling to drive off any inclination of moving classified docs before the FBI pounced?

Get outta here.

He is behaving like a mindless zombie. He doesn't even read the documents to understand the contexts, he just bring in unrelated examples to hoodwink people.
The particular letter he posted was a request for the declassification of certain documents that had to do with a particular FBI investigation - Operation Crossfire Hurricane, how this relates to the troves of documents found at Maralargo is beyond me. This letter shows the proper process of declassification. Where are the requests for all the other classified documents not related to operation Crossfire Hurricane found at Maralargo?

basilico:
You believe all other nonsense.
That was alm order to declassify.

DC is 92% democrats. Tells you what kinda jury you likely to face. More like Msnbc presenter types?

I think Trump should fire all his lawyers and hire basilico, because they refused to argue that Trump declassified the documents when presented with the opportunity in court. At least you could present the classification argument with proof in front of court this time.

Obrigardo:
Basilico will still go in headstrong. That man is long gone, even if criminal trump ate a baby live and he saw it, he would tell you the baby was a toy placed by the deepstate to tempt criminal trump.

The guys dedication to Trump is Godlike. Even Mohammed did not have worshippers with that level of fanatism.

Obrigardo:
Criminal trump about to be Indicted! womp womp

Some people on this forum is about to lose their sanity. I don't see how they can remain sane seeing their personal lord and saviour in the Dock. They might resort to terrorism - both online and offline.

Christistruth03:
Abuja voters are not Superior to other Nigerians
It is not the Osu Caste System


What you are saying is that if 100% of Non Abuja voters vote for a Candidate and only 24% votes for him in Abuja then he cannot be President

That means that only Abuja voters will have the right to Choose who is the President

All the other Nigerians are simply wasting their time voting

Wrong. The Constitution did not say he cannot be president. What the Constitution said is that a run off will be conducted between the top 2 candidates and anyone who wins the majority in a run off becomes president

This is the appropriate time to revive this thread where Buhari led a protest against subsidy removal in 2012. What has changed in 10 years where the same buhari is the one thar removed fuel subsidy?

ejimatic:
FCT is like any other state

It is not. All its lands had been taken over by the Federal government and they are not allowed the people to represent them in a democracy.

olusogo:
The question you should be asking is why 25% in FCT more important than Enugu, Osun or Taraba State?

It is long settled that FCT is not different from other States of the Federation. Nigeria has 37 States and FCT meaning to be treated like 38 States.

Because FCT is not allowed to elect its own governor and legislature. Since the president assumes the role of the governor common sense demands that he should have at least have minimum level of support from the people.

josilcool:
Atiku did not have 25% in FCT and also 2/3 of the federation. He came 2nd

Obi did not have 25% in 2/3 of the federation but have it in FCT. He came 3rd

Tinubu did not have 25% in FCT but have it in 2/3 of the federation. He came 1st

Who is now qualify to be declare as president..?

The Constitution prescribes a run off between the top two candidates.

CodeTemplar:
The rich are suppose to emerge by adding value and making their profit gradually and not by leeching on the Commonwealth of all.

Nigeria is the only country we have stupendously wealthy people without any known business outside politics.
Tinubu that has been collecting stupendous allowances and pecks including free houses, cars and salary for since 2007 is telling the poor masses about sacrifice.

gabbytabby:
Its based on the contract they have with the refinery.

Do your research if you are really interested in the detail.

You made a claim that the swap agreement does not cover the cost of the petrol, meaning that is the justification for paying N3 trillion in subsidies for petrol alone. I asked you to tell me how much the swap agreement covers and you are asking me to do research. If you know why not just give us the figures.

SalamRushdie:
First you didn't get the angle I was driving at .
Secondly there are many countries in Europe that consume more petroleum than Nigeria

https://www.citypopulation.de/en/world/bymap/oilconsumption/

I was talking about petrol and your switched over to petroleum? Are we discussing subsidy on petrol or subsidy on petroleum. Petroleum includes Kerosene, diesel, Aviation fuel, gas, LPFO, HPFO, petroleum jelly, bitumen, condensates, etc. Of course a more industrialised nation will use more petroleum products to run their industries.

jidemojola:
Because there is no provision for subsidy payment in the 2023 budget prepared by the previous administration.

What then happens to the subsidy payments budgeted for the month of June?

gabbytabby:
The swap covers some of the cost not all

How much does the swap cover?

SalamRushdie:
How I buy Petro from Europe at 350 a litre , please explain to me how supply by my fellow importer will make me drop price below the industry mark up margin?

First of all Europe does not produce crude oil, all crude for their refineries are imported at international price.

Secondly, there is heavy tax on refined petroleum products in Europe.

Thirdly, demand of petrol is very low in Europe when compared to Nigeria. They have mass transportation system. Many of their cars are electric. Many Europeans have no business with petrol.

Fourthly, they have an efficient energy policy with good energy mix of which energy from petrol is very minimal. They have solar, Gas, nuclear and hydro as significant portion of their energy mix.
And lastly and most importantly, there is little or no corruption in their system. They don't have oil thieves, subsidy thieves and thieving political elite that is above the law.

malware:
If they do the swap, the value of received petrol per litre is N500 (for example), but the Government ask marketers to sell it at let's say N200, meaning that it's the Govt that will bear the burden of the difference, amd that's what subsidy is.

What are you saying? Or you don't understand what swap means. Crude oil swap means you give refinery crude oil, crude oil you are not buying. The refineries refine the crude free of charge but gives you petrol, diesel and kerosene. They keep the remaining bye products as payment. So how did you arrive at N500 / litre? NNPC was only supposed to pay for shipping cost of crude to the refineries and shipping costs of refined products back to Nigeria. Please note that the production cost of Nigerian crude is about $30/barrel.

Since NNPC is the sole importer of refined petroleum products, who are they paying subsidies to?

Dicado:
Nice one, stop the swap and pay in "Naira" cash. Putin did it and it appreciated their currency against dollars. Ours will work too.

Why are you avoiding the elephant in the room to start looking for cockroaches. How come crude for petrol swap agreement is in place and the the government is still paying N3 trillion per year on subsidies? Who are they paying the subsidies to?

PlutoChief:
I'm not his fan but I love him already! We need someone who understand economy and how it works.

Some one that understands economy is not able price energy in relation to wages of its citizens.
Just in one week, electricity prices increase by 30%, fuel prices increased by 200% but wages remained stagnant with minimum wage still at N30,000. Is that how economy works?