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donjazzet:
My fellow liberals, budatuum, ibime, feedthenation, wirinet, amazontopaz etc.

I really need you guys input on this.

What do you guys think of transgenderism?

I am a liberal at heart, I believe in a world of tolerance for all that different from me. I want progressive change in the society and dread the effects of the hard right however on this issue of transgenderism, I am really torn on this issue.

What causes transgenderism, are you guys in support of them? What about children who claim or "feel" that they are trans. Should teenage puberty blockers be allowed? Should their natural growth be distorted based on how they feel?

I saw this thread I'm posting below and I felt a lot of dread. Should anyone really pass through this? Should transgenders really truly have a highlighted role in the society worthy of emulation?? Guys help me out here.

I don't want to sound like a hateful conservative who doesn't care about the comfort and role of others in society but I need to know how liberals truly feel about this issue of transgenderism.

See what these people undergo to become trans. Should this be encouraged?

https://www.nairaland.com/7717769/part-woke-culture-dont-talk

Please, no conservative should quote or reply me. I already know what your opinions are. I'm asking other liberals

It depends on your definition of transgender.
If it means having sexual attraction for a person of the same sex, then I have no problem with it as long as you don't take it beyond your bedroom. I believe I should not be in a position to impose bedroom etiquette on any body as long as minors and rape is not involved.

If transgender means having natural features, psychology and social behaviour opposite to the gender associated with the Instruments the person possesses, I also don't have any issues with that as long as I am directly involved.


But, if transgenderism means having surgical operation and hormonal treatment to convert one gender to another, then I do not support it. But if the person is a legal adult,have the finances and ready to bear the consequences, then that's their own problem.

I hate discussing sex and sexuality in public. Some people are too obsessed with these issues. They seem to verify Sigmund Freud's theory that men thinks of sex most of the time.
These issues are very personal issues and should never be flunted in public. There are children reading and watching for God's sake. Muslim and Christian fundamentalists are too obsessed with sex, particularly who, how and when women have sex. The also seem not to have any level of self control, and becomes crazy on seeing any part of a woman's bare skin.

Nononsense247:
Nigeria get far more than oil to survive

False. For a population of 200 million, the oil is not enough to go round.

greggng:
Even your leaders now understand that population is a problem. That's why all there policy is aimed at taxation and multiple taxation ..thisbis aimed at killing the poor and reduction of population...lots of Nigerians don't have work ...the have bills to pay ...the moment they start thinking about all this ,there health got worsen ...death us imminent ...They more the inflation the more death for the poor

If the strategy is to tax the people into poverty to reduce the population, then it would fail woefully. In fact the reverse will ensue. Even though poor people die earlier than rich folks due to poor living conditions and poor heath services, they procreate more children and much earlier. Among poor families, the daughter gets pregnant and give birth (often in her fathers house) before the age of 18, many before 16. By age 21, some would have had 2 to 3 children. Same goes for boys, by 25 many would have had 2 or 3 baby mamas.
For rich families the daughters often marry and have children late, often in her Kate 20s to early 30s due to schooling and career, and have fewer children.

This is the main reason the population of rich countries is declining. Their women are delaying having children due to schooling and pursuing a career.

Cyoung4real:
Lol, in your dreams. Something that’s is headed to 1k

Gbam! You are very well informed.

Khyrvxjzy:
i just type dollar to naira na 791 e show bro

That's not the current street value of dollars. I get the current minute by minute naira to dollar rate by checking the USDT to naira rate on binance. It always almost correspond to the street value.

cjudy:

As at today, dollar is exchange at 851 keep playing

No mind them, dollar that has been hovering between N150 and N155 today is what someone is saying is selling at N742. These people no fear God o!

sharone21:
That is why, just leaving our forex and fuel prices in the hands of 'market forces' controlled by greedy, capitalists like Nigerians, the prices may never really be suitable......

Pegging it may come in handy.

Even though Buhari was a disaster, one thing I gave him credit for was resisting pressures from IMF, world bank and international financial gurus to float the Naira. That was why inspite of his terrible economic policies and excessive corruption, Nigeria's economy did nor collapse.

Tinubu forming Jagaban by floating not only the Naira bit also petrol will collapse the economy in a year. I expect agbadoans to blame obiedients when that happens.

For your information the Naira fell from N750 to the dollar two days ago to N850 right now with the announcement of petrol at N617.

I have been depressed since yesterday as my logistics business and other businesses are suffering right now. Apart from high cost of energy there is the double whammy of law patronage.

Anyway I know the economic uncertainty is not affecting APC and their supporters.

lordprogress:
Exactly my point you removed subsidy why still importing fuel, is that not madness, what does it take to fix the country refineries.
This kyari guy is clearly incompetent he shouldn't have any business there.

The first screenshot below the historical data showing petrol price increases since 1978. The next 2 shows dollar to naira rates since 1983. You will notice that once petrol is increased dollar always follows.

In Tinubu is as smart as agbadoans wants us to believe, he should have reduced our demand for petrol by increasing gas (especially CNG) production, distribution and use, Make sure both private refineries and public ones are working, and then invest further in mass transportation for movement of goods and people (particularly trains). If he then removed subsidy on fuel, ordinary people would not cry. Only the rich would be affected.

Eriokanmi:
See you. How much is dollar today...do you care to know? There is no way a USD would exchange for 830 naira and you expect petrol to still sell at 490/500 naira which was the price at which we bought fuel per liter the moment we started to buy usd at 645 naira to 1 dollar at the I and E window.

Have you bothered to ask why dollars jumped from N645 to N830 in just one month? It has to do with more dollars chasing the same Naira. NNPC granted licences to import petrol, and those importers needed to buy scarce dollars in the open market. After this round of imports runs out the Marketers would need to change their Naira for dollars again for the next round of imports. I am sure by then the dollar would be close to N900

Acekidc4:
Oil Marketers Oil Marketers Why are you People so Selfish and Mean like this?? Meanwhile before you start shouting Tinubu, he has nothing to do with this but am very sure he will do something about this. No fear Tinubu is in Charge.







PATRON

I hope you are being sarcastic. Because if you are not, then you need to explain to me who removed petrol subsidy without one litre of petrol being produced in Nigeria. As long as we rely on importation for our fuel supply, the demand for dollars to buy this same fuel will increase, which in turn will put upwards pressure on the Naira, which will further push up the price of petrol.
We have been on that merry go round since the 80s when petrol was less than N10.

Only a madman keeps doing the same thing and expects a different result.

A wise government would have made sure local refineries are working before removing subsidy. That way we can determine the price of petrol and hence the value of the Naira.
Floating the Naira and at the same time relying on importation of fuel is economic suicide.

lishman1010:
This is very good! because I don't understand these agencies and extortion of already burdened poor masses. Just this Saturday I was stopped by them at about 5:30 pm on my way to drop my company van. I presented my papers and he this guy checked and said the papers I obtained from v.I.o ( another wahala) shouldn't have contain the time fame I was given as such he is charging me 10k. To cut the gist I ended up giving him 1k for crime I did not commit.

Shey they did not ask your for speed limiter? I have Toyota hilux with commercial number. They always stop me demanding for speed limiter and using that excuse to collect 4 or 5k everytime - even in traffic inside Lagos. Instead of FRSC to deploy speed scanners on the highways if they are really interested in enforcing speed limits, they are putting burden on vehicle owners to install speed limiter. That's an infringement on the fundamental rights on Nigerians.

The concept of heaven is primitive man's refusal to accept the finality of death. It is a make believe world to pacify the exploited and enslaved. They are made to believe all the suffering and exploitation is temporary and enjoyment and luxury awaits them after their death.

In contrast they create the concept of hell for those that is disobedient, those that resist, enslavement and exploitation, those that have independent minds.

That some people still fall for such rubbish in the 21st century is unbelievable.

I subscribe to the finality of death, that we have one shot at life and have that one shot to make a meaning of it.
Neil DeGrasse Tyson put it succinctly here;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3G9LOJZTmM

2mch:
What is your point? The point is Lagos was not built with any Oil money. But Cocoa money and our own trade. Yoruba came together and built Lagos. It is ours and we have a right to protect and be proud of it. There is nothing like chest beating here.

I will say it once again and maybe it will begin to sink in. The Portuguese, British and returned slaves built Lagos. Yorubas never came together and decided to build a city called Lagos. Even the name Lagos is a Portuguese name. Until very recently most places and streets in Lagos Island (which eventually led to the development of the whole of Lagos State) were name after Portuguese English or Edo names. The place that yorubas came together to develop was Ibadan.

I am sure if I ask where your ancestral home is, I am sure it will be either Ijebu or Egbaland of Ogun State. Most people that shout "Lagos Belongs to all Yorubas" are recent immigrants to Lagos.

mikeoreoluwa:
I once told a girlfriend of mine that am not her parents that why should I buy her a jamb form.and

Imagine asking you to buy her JAMB form. She for tell you to process her admission, pay are school, accommodation and upkeep fees, and then attend parent activities in the school.

Jozibrainz99:
So many guys out there spending lavishly on girls while their parents are wallowing in trenches.
Girls prefer these type of guys because they find them daft and easy to manipulate....
When a girl finds out you are so smart and difficult to manipulate, She won't dare come close again.
Have said it before, In years to come, We might have many old looking girls without husbands.
U know why
Because all these transactional relationship is would only be for some moments.

Years to come ke? It's happening right now. Go to both public and private offices in Lagos and Abuja, you will find many 30 - 40 year old single ladies. The possibility of a husband is remote. The lucky ones quickly opt to become baby mamas or second wife.

BlackyOne:
Get the job and skills from the same place and in the same way you're expecting the husband/boyfriend to get.

Ask for the money from your father and family, your boyfriend didn't ask you for money to eat and learn a skill.

Let the boyfriends breeet!

I would not even mind helping a girlfriend pay to get a job or acquire a skill. That's shows a serious girl with sound values of trying to improve herself. The ones I can't stand are those that believes relationships are poverty alleviation scheme or an MMM investment scheme. The feel they only thing of value they have and can ever have is their canal.

Akalia:
I believe your comment is a sacrsam because there is no way in the world that a spotless queen like you will belong to the "hungry ladies' class"

Are you suggesting that because she is spotless, she should put the canal on hire or lease for dredgers in order to buy food?

Samantha124:
Because I'm hungry..

Are you disabled? Even disabled people earn money one way or the other. So what then do you do with your 24 hour day?

JADEK04:
she was right why should your pennis rise in the first place when u can't cater for a family.

Rise of penìs is not correlated with raising or catering for a family. It rises according to its own according to the dictates of biology. 99% of sexual activities have nothing to do with raising a family.

Samantha124:
My father already has a woman in his life that he's married to and financially supporting, and that's my mother.

So why must I compete with my mother as if I want to be my father's second wife? I mean I've outgrown that age whereby he should be giving me any financial support.

It's now the duty of the man in my life to feed me because I'm hungry..

Are you disabled or mentally incapacitated? Why is at always the duty of others to feed you?

Dimaya:
That girl is the exception not the rule. Where do you think our girls are picking up this entitlement mentality. From US videos. Also, did you hear what the fat idiot was saying in that video. How can someone as fat as that with stinky stretch marks be talking about her standards and specs? This world haff spoil finish

The girl is not the exception to the rule in the US. Maybe exception among black Americans as black Americans girls have the same entitlement mentality as Nigerians girls, but among the whites and other demographics, that's the unspoken rule. Each person on a date pays his or her own fare, except it was agreed in the beginning that only one person will be responsible for the bills.
For you information, the lady in question was half caste - half Nigerian and half white.

I concur with the statement that "How can someone as fat as that with stinky stretch marks be talking about her standards and specs". Did you listen to the specs and standards she listed? Does she think she is Miss Universe to be able to land such a man based solely on her looks? She looks presentable now because of her young age and excessive make up. 10 years from now, given her shape and looks, she will look like spongebob. After dropping 1 or 2 children, she will look like Patrick.
Women are like flowers, they bloom for a relatively short period and fade very fast. It's best to attract bees in the bloom period, because during the fading period, attracting bees for pollination will be very difficult.

Zigzagman:
My take:
1. A lack of good job will definitely put you out of the dating selection pool

2. Women worldwide knows that he who pays the piper dictate the tunes. if you're or bucks'ed up, forget about chasing the box.

3. If as a man for any reason u earn less than ur dating partner, she will start looking for someone who earns more

4. If at the beginning u were earning more and somehow by twist of faith she begins to earn more, same rule applies, u will still loose ur spot in her life.

5. Women these days have equated submissiveness with u having to provide. know this and know peace.

6. Women are the same worldwide! If u think u will leave one because of the above reasons, I can tell u for free that u are a joker

You are still living in the 18th century, where women roles were in the kitchen, Bedroom and laundry room . Even in Conservative Muslim societies, that mentality only applies to the poor helpless masses, the elites empower their daughters with good education and good jobs.

In the 21st century, women have the same opportunities that men have. Women have been presidents/prime ministers of other nations, C.E.Os of multinational cooperations and captains of industries. Its only Nigerian women that have such entitlement mentality, you would think they are physically and mentally disabled.

I dated a US based girl in my youth, I took her to double 4 on Awolowo Road, Ikoyi. When the bill came she offered to pay her own bill, she said that's how it's done in the US. I refused and paid both our bills. She was extremely grateful to me for paying her own part of the bill. A typical ungrateful Nigerian girl would even insult you on top.

All these ladies with specs, See their mouth, " my specs are tall, handsome, rich, has a nice job, Christian, God fearing, etc. How many such men do they think is available in Nigeria and even the whole world? Very soon they will be like Nigerian girls in Europe who are the ones that pay for the guys transport to come to their house, cook for them, nack them well and pay their transport back him.

Watch the lamentations of a nigerian girl in Germany below;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljwqofrqGbU

Imagine a girl that her father cannot afford to spend N30k on her and cannot earn N30k will demand a guy spend 300k on a first date.

Many of these girls will enter menopause without having a serious boyfriend not to talk of a husband.

lexylaw40:
I don't want to use bad words but what are you really complaining about, ok fine federal contribution but during those times Nigerian economy is mainly based on wealth we got from exporting cocoa and also palm oil, all from the western region of Nigeria, you have to understand that the western region is from kwara to Benin ( Bendel state) down to Itshekiri ( delta state) is the real southwest so most of the nations resources was coming from the western part of the country before we discovered oil. ...that's just what I'm saying bro

Use bad word? Why? You made a claim that Lagos was built by the Yorubas with the hard earned money from their cocoa farms. You pasted pictures of structures in Lagos Island to support your assertion. I bursted your lie bubble by educating you that Lagos (particularly Lagos Island) was indeed built by the British Colonial Government and all the structures you posted was not built by Awolowo, but by the British, and you started threatening bad words.

Furthermore Apapa Ports was built by the British Colonial Government in 1919 and Tincan Island Ports was was built by the Obasanjo administration in 1977. Awolowo or the Western Nigerian government did not build any sea port in Lagos.

The Lagos Airport later renamed Murtala Mohammed Airport in 1979 was initially built in 1947 during World War II by the British Colonial Government.

I honestly don't know the sea port and airport Awolowo built in Lagos with cocoa money.

More pics

lexylaw09:
Lagos was built by the Yorubas with the hard earned money from their cocoa farms. The airport and the sea port you are using in lagos today was built by Awolowo with money from cocoa. Yorubas never needed oil money to progress. And we still remain the envy of other nations for a lot of good reasons.

O hun ta ni lan gbe laruge

I don’t know who the loudest chest beater us between IPOB and Yoruba tribalists, it would be a very close match. Both are always making stupendous claims of greatness. Lagos Island that was never under the Regional Western government was the one Awolowo built with cocoa money? Lagos Island all the way Akpongbon to Tafawa Balewa Square to Ikoyi and Victoria Island was seat of the colonial government from 1914, when Southern and Northern Nigeria was almalgated till 1991 when the capital was noted to Abuja.

See Carter Bridge that was built in 1901(first picture). Awolowo must have travelled back in time to build it as Awolowo was born 1906.

Second picture is Victoria Island as of 1929

Third picture is Lagos Island in 1935.

lawani:
Some communities in the SS will join and Igbo speaking communities that don't join will be neighbours and the struggle to unite them will continue. Yoruba and Hausa also have lands that needs to be united in West Africa.

Which community in the South South will want to experience unknown gun men? Even Anioma and Nkwerre people avoid the madness called sit at home by threats of life and property by IPOB and Unknown gun men.

UnabashedIPOB:
It's about our humanity, people naturally feel concern when a people decide to slaughter each other in the name of politics.

Yea! Sure, it's about humanity. Please, do NOT lie to or deceive yourself! We are NOT comparing ourselves to NO terrorists because we are NOT! NO place on earth has civil disobedience and or self-defense been classified as a CRIMINAL act. I am just saying that you folks need to be more concerned about terrorism in your backyards than worrying about st-at-home. You are the ones making the comparisons and we do NOT care. Your propaganda and cheap a$$ blackmail will NOT deter us from our FREEDOM from the ZOO! All of you can then have your ONE NIGERIA and live happily ever after!

Civil disturbance you say? What concern schools, women and children with civil disturbance? You own children for that matter?

So you call the video below civil disturbance?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZgxAiKZgV8

What separate you guys from boko haram that attack schools? Shey Book is haram for you guys also?

Also watch this women with more sense than you guys discuss the damage IPOB and UGM are found to the future of Igbo children.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA8mGtQcGpM

That you supposedly educated igbo guys do not see the long term damage to igbo society even if you achieve your Biafra is shocking. As the saying goes, you don't cut off the head to cure headache.

UnabashedIPOB:
Why are people from other regions more concerned? Let them mind their own business...they do NOT give a DAMN about the Igbos. They have terrorist Fulanis killing and sacking a whole community in their enclave. So, let them take the log out of their own eyes before worrying about the east, QED!

It's about our humanity, people naturally feel concern when a people decide to slaughter each other in the name of politics. We have been concerned about Fulani terrorists for over 10 years, we are also concerned about Kanuri terrorists that had terrorised their people for more than 15 years. Naturally we should be concern about igbo terrorists slaughtering women and children in the name of Biafra.

Besides, I don't understand why you guys have now started comparing yourselves to Fulani terrorists. Are you guys now admiting that you are in the same league with them?

UnabashedIPOB:
The attached image is the major reason why the sit-at-home currently going on in the Southeast geopolitical zone is not impacting the national economy and is only destroying their regional economy.

Here we go again with this addlepated he-goat. This M0R0N needs to be more worried about his own pathetic life than worrying about the Igbo-speaking Biafrans. All the talking heads and their allies in the media have all been pontificating about the sit-at-home and its impact on the economy of the East. If they honestly believe that the sit-at-home has no negative effect on the economy of Nigeria writ large, why are they more concerned and worried? It's NOT as if they care about or love the Igbos. Just recently, we saw a group of Yorubas in Lagos protesting at the Finnish Embassy against Simon Ekpa because of the sit-at-home. What an irony. These are the same people that ordered the Igbos and other Biafrans to leave Lagos and now they just discovered a new affinity and love for them. So, all I am saying is that all these dido-heads should mind their own damn business and let us deal with our issue the best way we see fit. I am sure all the others have more things in their own backyard to worry about than meddling in our own affairs.

Believe me the sit at home has no bearing on the Nigerian economic. If it did, the government would have sent 3 battalions to confront the terrorists. If this was the Niger delta, the government would either have conceded to the demands of the agitators or use brutal force not minding collateral damage.

People care for the igbos killing each other the same way they care for the Rohingya people of Myanmar or the Ukrainians in the on going war. Its part of human sympathy. People with conscience are sad at seeing men, women and children being slaughtered needlessly.

The people that ordered igbos to leave Lagos for political reasons though condemnable is not the same thing as murder. They did not murder women and children as you guys are doing.

OredoPikin:
5 states in the South east are generating far more 6 states from North East

They won't see that to criticised but everyone must focus on the SE
Nigeria hate igbos

Generating how? Is it in terms of taxes/IGR or in terms of individual profit?

bluefilm:
The thing just taya me no be small.

Leave us make we dey do our sit-at-home dey go, dem no gree.

Na wa for some people o.

If peoplec are doing sit home voluntarily, no one can question them, it's their constitutional right of free movement or not thereof. But when men women and children being slaughtered by terrorists in the name of self determination, then the whole world would be concerned.