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kingyakos:
What are you even saying, wetin concern firefighter truck and bomb blast.

Bomb blasts cause fire. After the initial shock waves the rest of the destruction is caused by fire.

Megaautos:
Sir the convoy of most presidents have it.

Proof please.

viodemus:
The Americans, chinese, russians, have it. Including an ambulance.

What sillybu does not know is that, the truck is more than a fire truck, it is more so a chemical neutralizer for chemical attack and even a nuclear attack. If you successfully attack the convoy or the truck itself, the fumes and chemicals has the ability to create a neutralizing shield within a certain area, giving the security time to quickly assess, and make fast adjustments, like put mask, jump out from one car to another undamaged car, and dip out of there. Without that, they attack might overpower their mask and temporary body shield. Yes, it also has fire retarding chemical to quench a successful mine or regular fire. But overall, theirs, is part of a tactical strategy in precarious times.


Those are serious countries. Places like UK, some asians like Japan, do only ambulance convoy, but that chemical truck - that the Nigerian dun^ce thought it is just a water thing --- is on standby, not far away. But sillybu wants to drive around doing guy, with algae infested water tanks. The maintenance on those trucks is top notch in great countries, like the other cars in the convoy. The Nigerian side is aloof to these technicalities. Theirs is for ego tripping and wastage.

Serious countries are no joke for a reason.

Ogbeni, e be like say you don watch too many jack Bauer series. That scenario is highly unlikely in the real world.
First of all no vehicle or truck could stop a nuclear attack. Nuclear is radiation, you need feets (not inches) of lead to shield from radiation (gamma) or you go underground.
Secondly, there are gas masks thar can protect against most types of chemical attacks. Even soldiers in wars use gas masks as protection and not vehicles.

Finally, an attack that would disable all the multiple layers of security around the president will most likely succeed - chemical neutraliser truck or not. The president vehicle is not only bullet proof but also to some extent bomb proof. If they can eliminate the dozens of vehicles in the presidents vehicle and the hundreds of personel in the presidents security, they would eliminate the chemical neutraliser/ fire truck vehicle also, and get to the president.

The Lebanese Prime Minister Rafic Hariri was assassinated along with dozens of security details when his bullet proof and bomb proof car was bombed in 2005.

I am still waiting for links to the fire truck that you claim follows US presidents, UK prime minister and other country's presidents, particularly when moving around in their own countries.

kingyakos:
I don't know how this makes sense to some people or are they just attaching tribalism to it, how does a firefighter truck makes sense in a convoy that all the vehicles are with fire extinguisher. I strongly believe if it was buhari that introduced firefighter truck in his presidential convoy, so many bigot giving kudos to this nonsense won't be in support.

I suspect that president tinubu feels insecure being in Boko Haram infested region and given the fact that he is hugely unpopular in Abuja (given his votes there), and so he feels a venue he might be attending an event could be bombed. I believed the fire truck is for venues where he attends events outside the security of aso rock, instead of the convoy itself.

That's the only way it makes sense.

BATified23:
Thanks for the mention, please can you show me where INEC or Yakubu said results will be transmitted realtime prior to 23rd of February, 2023.

"After the process is completed at the polling uni6t, the image of the polling unit result will be taken by the BVAS and uploaded unto what we call the INEC Result Viewing Portal where citizens can see polling unit level results as the processes are completed at the polling unit level."

The statement "as the processes are completed at the polling unit level means the same thing as "real time" in simple English.

viodemus:
The fraudulent criminal is also a waste machine. Wasteful Ahmed aka stealibu and a 24/7 sillybu.

He wants to keep up with the joneses. Who told him that he needs that. oh because he saw American, Chinese, Russian, french, uk, and some well to do country's leaders do it. But those are serious well to do countries. What he should have done, is say, keep one truck at the fire dept on standby if he is going out. Something that can be 5 to 10 mins away if he feels some kind of way. He doesn't trust the north again, the whispers on the street is that they are telling him not to shuffle the security system, as not to offset the hisba/bh dominance in the security apparatus.

He is so criminal minded and surrounded by criminals, that it beclouds his judgement. Nigerians were warned, but their tribalist sentiments hindered their judgement. Nigeria is in for a very rough ride. Someone that his country cannot boast of 24hr electricity, is trying to rub shoulders with leaders that are past that, and run advanced societies.


After his first couple of international meetings, he will then know that he is not on that level he is forming. My fear is that, he might get even more criminally inclined after that, and am talking of an already very advanced hardened criminal.

I never knew other presidents have fire trucks in their convoy following them up and down. Please can you provide links to verify such claims.

Franciscarter:
His medical emergency truck disguised as fire fighter truck…lol we are not lame

But there should already be an ambulance in the convoy.

Chekwume16:
Fire fighter don't only fight fire. They are trained in general rescue. That is why they are attached.

So what then is the job of DSS, Civil Defence, Army and Mopol attached to the convoy? Besides I hope you are aware that the convoy of the president also has one or two extra vehicles the same make and colour as the one carrying the president as spare incase there is problem with the main one.
So in which scenario will the fire trucks be deployed?Fire engulfing the whole convoy or fire on only the presidents vehicle? Or even fire on other cars or buildings seen while the president is moving on the roads?

joyandfaith:
Even it cannot work under OBI if he doesn't focus on government wastage and corruption.

That's the elephant in the room that most blind supporters are oblivious of. No policy and I repeat no policy can work with the level of corruption in Nigeria. Even a bad policy will work without corruption. Its annoying that we are chasing ants - subsidies, while ignoring the elephant. The only actions I support Tinubu for is his attempts at tackling corruption. I just hope his arrest of Emefiele and Bawa is not revenge for the stupid naira redesign policy people believed was specifically aimed at Tinubu. I would have preferred President Tinubu clean up the oil industry before talking about subsidy.

Cromagnon:
America's free education is a failure.
Awoof de run bele
Same with subsidy
No be by good intentions o

But free education in China is a success. Why do you think its a failure in the US but hugely successful in China?

And not just China primary and secondary school education in South Korea is also free.

DeepSight:
These are not what Esu represents. Esu is two faced and represents the mischief of possibilities.

Trump is two faced and represents mischief. He was first democrat then an independent and finally a Republican. He was first pro choice and later prolife. He changes face according to his aims and objectives.

He also disrupts any organisation he comes in contact with. He is disrupting the Republican Party and the US as a whole.

Ekemeze:
He simply talks too much. Will always open his mouth waaaaaah and vomit earth shattering missiles that further degrade America. Example, his remark about America's invasion of the middle east countries was just too much and I think that made the rest of the world starts disrespecting USA.

Nevertheless I don't think he deserves "death sentence" .. he killed no one.

I also don't think he should be given the death sentence but his leaking of critical US (and ally) intelligence might have led to the death of many intelligence officers and spies. Trump had been involved in numerous criminal activities right from the 80s, from fake university to fake charities and sexual assault. He engaged in a lot of unethical practices as president, he would have commited more grievous crimes were it not "adults in the room" during his presidency. If he becomes president again, there would not be many "adults in the room" this time. He attempted to over throw a legitimately elected government, first from attempting to present fake electors, then subtlely threatening election officials to "get him votes" and then finally organising a mob to distrust the Congress from ratifying the elections while putting the lives of the vice president, speaker and members of Congress in danger.

I just want him to be held accountable once in his life and stop feeling he can shoot some one in the centre of 5th avenue and get away with it, because at the moment that what he and his cult followers think.

Ekemeze:
😂😂😂
Oh hell no.
No way I would last long in this thread,
When I was active on nairaland back then, I used to come here to read updates from both sides. But now y'all are so openly displaying hate and bigotry towards each other.. that's not healthy to be honest.

That's the Trump effect. Trump bring out the worst impulses in people. He is similar to Èsù in yoruba mythology, he represents wickedness, injustice, and immorality and unrighteous people. That's why he has lots of adherents.

President Tinubu is starting on a very wrong note. He wants to firm "Jagaban" with the Nigerian economy without thinking about the implications of his hurried announcements to the economy. How can you be issuing orders and pronouncements as if we are in a monarchy without a cabinet in place. I know Buhari was too slow to start in 2015 by not having a cabinet for close to 6 months, but President Tinubu is running faster than his shadow by making huge policy changes without a cabinet.

pafra:
You are absolutely correct. If the exchange rate police is not properly manage, we could be exchanging a dollar to a thousand naira soon

Who is there to manage the Exchange rate policy? At present, we have no finance minister, no CBN governor and no economic management team.

The black market have not been abolish. As at yesterday the rates was at about 750. Until the government find a way to abolish this rates nothing have been achieved.

You cannot abolish the black market by fiat. That's why its called the black market, its beyond the control of government.

Rates will definitely increase in the banks because of the law of demand and supply. Too many people demanding for the few available dollar, will increase rates and encourag black market rates.

Imbalances between supply and demand will always create a black market.

The solution could have been to set up an economic team first, that will look through this policy before making the announcement
Appoint a cbn governor that will create a monetary framework for the policy

President Tinubu is putting the cart before the horse because he wants to be seen as working.

Abolish bureau de exchange, make trading dollar outside the banks a criminal offence.

You know how many times a Nigerians government has banned sale of foreign currencies. Even under military, it did not work.

All payment within Nigeria should be in Naira thereby discouraging the dollarisation of the economy.

How many percentage of transactions in Nigeria is done in dollars? There is nothing like dollarisation of the Nigerian economy. Besides most transactions now are cashless. Are your USSD, credit/debit card or online transactions done in dollars?
Its only politians and their cronies that spray dollars around for egocentric reasons.

If not we are in for a "good time" in this country.

We are in for more economic pains. You cant float your currency when your balance of trade with other countries is strongly negative.

budaatum:
You seriously think dump would not take advantage to dance on a court stage as part of his campaign, especially if he can get it televised?

I think you underestimate dump, and I am in fact worried this shîtshow would get him back into the White House, as it's bound to infect more deplorables to vote for him.

I am certain he cannot get into the White House and I am sure he knows it. His base is just not enough to win the presidential elections. He probably has 60 - 70% of the Republican party. His numbers among the independents has shrunk from the 2019 elections and the Democrats are much more galvanised to vote against Trump.

Remember a growing number of republicans are openly critical of him and there is the ever present Lincoln Project. Even Joe Biden is counting on Trump to run in order to unify the democratic candidate against a common hatred of him.

PDPGuy:
After being indicted twice (or soon to be thrice if he is indicted in Georgia), I’m not sure Trump would participate in the primaries

Trump would surely participate in the primaries. The Republican Party is being held hostage by Trump and the Magat wing. If he is not nominated candidates, he will probably run as an independent in order to finally bury the Republican Party.

benalvino3:
it is funny seeing how fools don't like equal justice. i hope you have your dictionary with you.

Is that the defense you Magats have for the 37 indictments? I doubt that would fly in any law court. So because of equal justice for Trump we should never prosecute anyone ever again for crimes? Since there had never been equal justice in America, they better releases all convicted criminals, close the courts and shut down the police.

Obrigardo:
Has basilico loco started his annual leave?

He will come back with more ridiculous arguments. Imagine comparing personal audio interviews with intelligence and defense files.in what universe are the defense files of a country the property of the president?

SmartPolician:
Bola Tinubu should cut off those Nigerian neighbours because Nigeria doesn't have enough power to go round. That's what this discussion is about.

Their governments should supply them power; we cannot afford to shoulder their governments' responsibilities.

In economics, you supply what you have comparative advantage over, not what you are struggling to generate.

The most annoying part is that those countries are even owing Nigeria a lot of money in power supply, suggesting that Nigeria is playing the role of a Santa Claus in the WA subregion.


You no get sense, go sleep...

He cannot! Because we have an agreement to supply them some electricity in return for not damming the River Niger. If Benin, Niger and/or Mali should dam the river Niger, there would be no electricity to sell at Kainji.

solreb:
The witnesses have all come to state the facts that BVAS did not work when uploading results . What matters most at the end of the day is the election result. None of them have come to same the election results I signed are not the ones I was seeing now indicating that APC had been favoured. Until I start seeing evidences like that no shaking for BAT.

And what do you think all those boxes admitted in evidence contained? The will definitely reconcile the results given to Labour and PDP and those announced by INEC. These witnesses were called by the petitioner to establish that the non upload of the result was deliberately done by INEC to sabotage the process.

feedthenation:

---Waiting patiently for Trump's spin doctor (Basilico) to contribute his own spin to the indictment document---

He is still very busy scouring right wing white supremacists sites for spins he can copy and paste.

Lifestone:
Did the law says only Bvas could transmit results?

How else do you want to transmit results to Abuja and Mahmood started announcing results less than 24 hours after the close of elections. Election closed 6 PM on Saturday 25th February and by Sunday evening Mahmood Yakubu has started announcing results, how did the results get to Abuja? By WhatsApp or by Okada?

iSense247:
It's as good as not conducting an election. Why? Because such is against the electoral guidelines (rules).

They will argue that election guidelines are not legally binding and so we should continue with the way elections had been conducted since 1979, where results are just allocated irrespective of actual voting.

Baatunde:
This is exactly what I was going to ask also..... what are we deriving form these testimonies....that BVAS could not upload result and then what? Did that change any of the results recorded on the signed form EC8A...... from what was eventually declared?

THE lawyers should be prepared to show evidences that what was recorded on the EC8A forms were different from what was declared eventually at the final collation centre, otherwise trying to fault the election because BVA could not connect to IREV is a bloody waste of time bothering on technicalities.......

Yes it did. There are numerous allegations that the results changed drastically when the results got to the INEC state collation centre and the National collation centre in Abuja. The one of Rivers state is legendary.

Lifestone:
Bvas worked, it was used for accreditation. It was the Uploading of result into IREV that didn't function. Bad enough, the concern of PDP should have been demonstrating that the results declared is different from the actual votes. That's what I expected

BVAS did not work as intended. The BVAS machine was meant to accredit voters and then transmit the results to the Irev portal. It did accredit the voters but it malfunctioned when transmitting the presidential results.
Irev was supposed to make sure that the figures announced at the polling units is the same as the number of votes transmitted to inec headquarters. In previous elections the results magically change between polling unit and headquarters. So BVAS and IReV were supposed to work together to validate the election.

So explain why all the BVAS machines and the Server decided to malfunction at the same time.

Larryndelaw:
Which magnitudes. Nothing new in what the witnesses are saying. Everyone knows the result was not transmitted to the servers. So what's special about what they are saying. T

Why was the results not transmitted to the servers?

Lifestone:
I don't get the PDP, how does not uploading election results affect the outcome of the Election.

If INEC knew that uploading election results would not affect the outcome of the Election, why then introduce BVAS and IReV? Why assure Nigerians, the parties and the national assembly that it will employ BVAS and IReV to eliminate the controversies associated with manual collation of results in previous elections? Why collect N400 billion to from national assembly to employ the system?

DoTheNeedful:
These so-called witnesses keep saying the same thing. Is there any new information in these testimonies? We all know that INEC didn't upload the presidential election on the election day. PDP is just wasting the court's time.

Are you not interested to know why INEC did not upload the presidential election on the election day? Out of over 100,000 BVAS machines all with independent Internet connections, not one could connect to the INEC server?
Could it be that Amazon servers were down?
Could it be that all internet networks in Nigeria were down?
Could it be that none of INEC staff knew how to upload files on INEC server?
Could it be sabotage by INEC IT technicians?
Don't we deserve to know after spending N400billion on the system?

DeepSight:
The only issue I have with this is that it is universal and impersonal. It indicates nothing personal in life whereas the inner subjective life of each person is very personal and driven by personal goals and ambitions and I think thats what is being asked here.

The inner subjective life of each living thing (whether single cell or muticellular) is very personal and driven by personal goals and ambitions.

HellVictorinho6:
why?

To contribute your quota first to the general pool of your specie and then to the gene pool of life in general.

The purpose of all life is survival, survival first as an individual, survival as a specie and continuation of life itself. The first part of your life is geared towards getting you ready to reproduce, buy puberty nature uses all kinds of tricks to make you reproduce. After reproduction, the next goal is to care and groom the kids to survive and reproduce. After your productive years, the body prepares to go back to mother earth and become raw materials for the next cycle.

Obrigardo:
This is why I say you are a crack nut.

You have been bastardized by conspiracy theory, that you can't find the nuggets of facts in things you see online.

This was the last doc criminal trump declassified as he left office. This means the criminal knew the declassification process. And he never did that for the Iran attack doc he spoke about to Mark Meadows biographers at Bedminster.

Now you just made it clear criminal trump knew the declassification process, but why didn't he do the same for the now missing Iran attack docs? Why did NARA call on him multiple times to return back classified docs? and why the unnecessary coverup and shady cctv footage manhandling to drive off any inclination of moving classified docs before the FBI pounced?

Get outta here.

He is behaving like a mindless zombie. He doesn't even read the documents to understand the contexts, he just bring in unrelated examples to hoodwink people.
The particular letter he posted was a request for the declassification of certain documents that had to do with a particular FBI investigation - Operation Crossfire Hurricane, how this relates to the troves of documents found at Maralargo is beyond me. This letter shows the proper process of declassification. Where are the requests for all the other classified documents not related to operation Crossfire Hurricane found at Maralargo?

basilico:
You believe all other nonsense.
That was alm order to declassify.

DC is 92% democrats. Tells you what kinda jury you likely to face. More like Msnbc presenter types?

I think Trump should fire all his lawyers and hire basilico, because they refused to argue that Trump declassified the documents when presented with the opportunity in court. At least you could present the classification argument with proof in front of court this time.