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chukkystar:
Bethseba was the last Maiden that stayed beside King David B4 His death. Adonijah dragged the throne with Solomon B4 Solomon was chosen by king David. According to the accident beleive, if a son takes His Father's maiden, He also makes claim to all His Father's properties including the throne. Adonijah knew exactly what He was doing

But the throne had already been given to Solomon his junior brother, how would he have claimed their fathers throne because he married their fathers youngest wife. Besides king David had more than 8 wives.

Maynman:
Dialogue with theist is more weird, in a minute you will see them supporting genocides.
What did I accuse you?
Why exactly did you bring kim to the dialogue?
Is killing your family members because of a position a good or bad thing? I don’t understand
Out of all countries you brought the one that specifically matches the tyranny you want.

Which treason has to do with a woman?
Imagine it was kim jong un, moses went to meet that he wants to take his people out of his kingdom, would that have been treason?

The Op question was about right or wrong.

Theists - the Muslim and Christian variety seems to be the most wicked people on earth. They can justify murder, slavery, rape and stealing as long as it was carried out by their religious character. The same people thar says their religion gives them 10 commandments, though shall not kill, thou shall not covert, though shall not do this and that, are the same people that would find excuses to justify killings, adultery, rape and stealing by their own religious figures.

BigDawsNet:
Why Solomon Executed Adonijah

Adonijah Was Still Plotting Against Him

Solomon had to execute Adonijah his brother because the mere fact Adonijah could ask for his father's concubine is a sign he was still conspiring behind the scenes to oust him. If Solomon had not acted or didn't discern the implications of that request, he would have been known to be weak and naive. This would have further given the conspirators some leverage to facilitate a civil war later in Solomon's reign.

You people can't defend the indefensible in order to justify the actrocities of your favourite religious character. From the story it was obvious that King David just died and King Solomon had just been installed King (as there cannot be 2 Kings in a kingdom). Abishag the Shunammite, most probably a beautiful young slave girl was brought for the dying King David, to help easy his pains (don't ask my how). King David could not perform and indeed died not long after. Now slave girl is free and undefiled. Solomons brother now seeing this as the opportunity to have the young beautiful slave girl for himself, but he could not without the permission of the new king (his half junior brother). Instead of King Solomon to say no, and that he has eyes on the girl,his ego took over and decided to kill his brother for daring to like the girl he has eyes on.

basilico:
Climate change suggested solutions
This is a real cult. Reason has been thrown out of the window.

Repeat the phrase climate crisis on every opportunity.
Spray some chemicals in the air that will reflect the sun's direct energy from reaching the earth. Ridiculous.
JoeBiden is funding construction of two giant vacuumers to suck CO₂ from the air to store it underground or use it for industrial purposes.
[s]Matter can be never be created or destroyed[/s]
Agriculture is major contributor to climate change. Livestock needs to be culled, domestic pets need to stop fueling demand for beef & beef products, we need to go net zero, gas stoves, pizza coal stoves, home heating needs to be reduced drastically.

How did we get here?


1960s - "Oil will be gone in 10 years. We need millions to fix it."
1970s - "There will be an Ice Age in 10 years. We need millions to fix it."
1980s - "Acid rain will destroy all the crops in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
1990s - "The Ozone layer will be destroyed in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
2000s - "The glaciers will all melt in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
2010s - "The coast will be underwater in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
2020s - "Climate Change will kill us all in 10 years. We need trillions to fix it."

No difference between you guys and flat earthers. I was surprised that there are flat earthers on this site. I have actually argued with one, I left just shaking my head in disbelief and in pity.

You guys are simply science deniers, the history of civilization is replete with science deniers, From Heliocentricity, to Evolution, to Big Bang, to even covid and now to climate change.
The reason for science denyism is purely religion, once a science concept is in conflict with prevailing religious doctrine as interpreted in their religious books, they deny.

It unreasonable to suppose that burning of fossil fuels that started since the start of the industrial revolution did not have any effect on the atmosphere. Are you guys saying that carbon dioxide is not a greenhouse gas, or that all the carbon dioxide pumped into the atmosphere daily by billions of vehicles, factories and power generators won't have any climatic effect in the long run? If you guys are positing thar the climate change effects is being exaggerated, I will understand, but to deny it altogether is senseless.

basilico:
Stop challenging him. He cannot be believe he is wrong, He spews Twitter TDS garbage.
It's a real cult. Mind made up , he dare not seek the truth because it would break him apart.
I compare wirinet and Co to those 900 fanatics who took cyanide in the 70s.
Like robots They have been programmed into hatred.

This is Trump's style of deflecting his crimes. He accuses people of exactly the crimes he is involved with. His cult Members learn from him and use the same deflecting strategy.

Liberals don't worship any anyone, they don't even worship any religious figure, not to talk of a mere mortal. You will see many liberals critical of Joe Biden. Its an abomination for any MAGA cult Member to criticise Trump. They are worse than Muslim fanatics when it come to their religious figure. They become emotionally unstable when anyone insults their leader. They threaten violence, they spew out personal insults or begin to cry if they feel helpless to do anything. You can feel the emotional tears in the posts of Basilico, MentalCase and fellow nairaland MAGA brigade.

I am not particularly fond of Joe Biden, he is a typical career politician. My favourite US president was Ronald Reagan. But l love Joe Biden in comparison to Trump. Trump represents every negative character of a human being. He is a criminal - he has cheated everyone he engaged in business with. He holds no loyalty to anyone - not even his wives. He cannot sacrifice for anyone - not even his country.
I cannot even be friends with someone that worships Trump. Our values are diametrically opposite. I don't cheat, lie, or exploit poor and vulnerable people.

MentalCase98:
Another epistle filled with emotional gibberish that I can’t be bothered to read. What is wrong with you liberals?! Are you all incapable of answering questions directly and succinctly?

I asked you a simple question; was Trump EVER criminally indicted for all these multitude of crimes you guys accuse him of in the 70 years before he became president?

Yes or no. Simple.

Trump is a criminal. People closest to him outside his children don't have anything nice to say about him. Newyork where he lived snd grew up know him as a criminal. If you like go am strap a belt bomb and blow up yourself, it will not change the fact that Trump is a criminal.

bemeruca:
Conspiracy nuts

How come you don't believe biden is doing the same now. These people here

So can you prove to us that tax evasion is a civil offence and Al capone was put in prison with a civil lawsuit?

I will wait.

I know tax evasion is not a civil matter, but its not as serious as murder, extortion and drug trafficking which Al Capone was famed for.
I am typing on my bed partially awake, so am bound to make mistakes.

It will be difficult to catch criminal Trump on tax evasion even though he evades taxes. This is because he has an army of accountants and lawyers cooking his books. That's why he admits to tax avoidance, which to me is the same thing as tax evasion.

bemeruca:
Conspiracy nuts

How come you don't believe biden is doing the same now. These people here

Because Biden don't have a long history of conning people and definitely doesn't have over 4,000 legal cases in U.S. federal and state courts, million-dollar real estate lawsuits, personal defamation lawsuits, and over 100 business tax disputes. Biden also does not 25 sexual harassment and sexual assault accusations hanging on him.

bemeruca:
Which is why before you show interest to discuss about it... You should know what you are talking

I do not talk about transgenderism or gayism.

About Civil and criminal cases, I know about that very well. And I know that it's near impossible to catch crime lords on criminal charges, because they use fronts to cover their tracks and use expensive lawyers to cheat the system. The justice department catches them on civil cases like tax evasion, money laundering and class action suits.
A typical example was Al capone. Al Capone was never convicted of murder, extortion or drug trafficking, he was jailed for tax evasion.

bemeruca:
You do not know the difference between gay and transgender. A civil lawsuit is not a criminal lawsuit .

That's because I am not interested in such issues.

MentalCase98:
Many businessmen face countless civil lawsuits throughout their career. It’s a form of dispute resolution. It does not make one a criminal.

A criminal indictment is a COMPLETELY different thing.

Please refrain from opining on topics that you clearly don’t have the bandwidth to understand. You just make a fool of yourself.

See how I’m breaking down common law to you like a child. I feel embarrassed on your behalf.

Trump is not a businessman, he is a con artist. He cons people and use his wealth (which he got by conning people of course) to escape justice. He conned his siblings of the inheritance their father left for all his children and grandchildren. He invested in various ventures which all failed. He declared bankruptcy 4 times. He is the only businessman I know that could bankrupt a casino business. By 1991 Trump was $8 billion in debt according to his daughter Ivanka. It was Russian oligarchs that bailed out Trump by buying his properties at exorbitant prices, sometimes up to 3 times their estimated value.

I have known Trump since the 90s. I had a friend who was in love with him. He had his book "the art of the deal". He gave me the book to read, and after reading it, I concluded he was a criminal. And since then he has not disappointed me.

MentalCase98:
A civil lawsuit is not same thing as a criminal indictment you moronn

Are all liberals just illiterate or what? I can’t understand you guys.

I better heed the advice of not arguing with a madman/mental case, as they say passersby might not know the difference.

It's only depraved madmen that would worship a twice divorced, pussy grabbing liable rapist and conman as personal lord and saviour.

MentalCase98:
A “career criminal” that somehow never got investigated, indicted, convicted or incarcerated for over 65 years of his life till he ran for president as a populist?

How convenient.

Try use your brain sometimes. Not every time emotions.

Are you just deaf, dumb and blind or you are just pretending. Trump that had been investigated over a dozen times, indicted multiple times and found liable in numerous occasions (most times he pays his way out of law suits by settling out of court). The only thing that Trump has not faced yet is jail time, and we are waiting for the outcome of documents and Jan 6 cases.

A MAGA cult member asking someone to use his brains, what an irony.

MentalCase98:
Funny how short you liberals memories are. Investigating Trump was ALL the democrats did for 4 years when he was president too. This is the republicans just getting even. Dems can choose to keep up the trend when they reclaim the house and we keep going like that till eternity.

Incase you really have amnesia, below is a link to ALL the investigations democrats launched on Trump and his administration;


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1010131

Trump is a career criminal.

From the 1980s until he was elected president in 2016, Donald Trump and his businesses were involved in over 4,000 legal cases in U.S. federal and state courts, including battles with casino patrons, million-dollar real estate lawsuits, personal defamation lawsuits, and over 100 business tax disputes.[1] He has also been accused of sexual harassment and sexual assault,[2][3] with one accusation resulting in Trump being held civilly liable.[4]

In 2015, his lawyer Alan Garten called this "a natural part of doing business" in the United States.[5][6] While litigation is indeed common in the real estate industry,[5] Trump has been involved in more legal cases than his fellow magnates Edward J. DeBartolo Jr., Donald Bren, Stephen M. Ross, Sam Zell, and Larry Silverstein combined.[7]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_and_business_legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump

It's not the democrats that started investigating Trump, in fact the justice department had Bern investigating Trump's criminal activities since 1973.

I view MAGA cult members as criminal minded and emotionally troubled people.

feedthenation:
The U.S senate is thinking about starting an investigation into Jared Kushner's $2billion corruption.

Six months after leaving the White House, Jared Kushner secured a $2 billion investment from a fund led by the Saudi crown prince, a close ally during the Trump administration, despite objections from the fund’s advisers about the merits of the deal.

This is what I have been expecting the democrat led senate to do since the Biden family crime investigation has been the main legislative agenda of the Republican led house. The Senate should also appoint a special council to investigate the Trump/Krushner crime family. Then if the democrats take over the house as expected in the next elections, they should commence impeachment the first day after inauguration. You don't bring boxing gloves to a sword fight, you bring a bigger sword.

I am beginning to get annoyed at the meekness or unresponsiveness of the democrats. Since they are ready to burn down the country to protect crime lord Trump, the democrats should obliged them.

masseratti:
Mr Shonubi... This is not a rocket science, close the I & E window, there should not be anything official rate anymore, just like petrol subsidy removal, let the free market, call it anything you want determine the rate of the naira, let's use the black market rate as official market rate and see the demand on dollars go down as 40%,am 100% sure if this is done $ will go down as 500,if there is two rates system in an economy people will definitely profit off it and the rate will go up.

False premise! Why? Because we are basically import (in order words dollar) dependent for basic products - energy (fuels), food (rice, dairy, fish, flour and flour products), clothes (fabrics, materials and accessories), electronics (including phones, TVs, etc.), building materials (tiles, glass, aluminium, cables, etc). And our main means of earning this dollar is crude oil exports.

emmybobo1:
I know where this fellow is driving to. Very soon you wont be able to receive dollar from abroad through the bank. I mean you'll only receive the money equivalent at CBN chosen rate

This is where binance comes in. I receive money from abroad in USDT. The whole exchange takes less than 15 minutes from the comfort of your bed. This is why government is now targeting binance and crypto. They can't control transactions in crypto.

Lexusgs430:
We don't have a CBN governor......... 🤣😁

People have the freedom to exchange their money, anywhere they desire......... 😁

My brother the paradox is shocking. The CBN says they have floated the Naira, meaning they want the laws of demand and supply to determine the value of the Naira, but is now complaining about how and where people choose to change their currencies.
Does that even make sense?

otipoju:
It is good that we witnessed that man. The hype about his so called integrity was a huge delusion.

The man who will always assure us that he was never aware of anything.

I was one of those utterly disappointed by Buhari. I supported him the first term because of his socalled integrity. I expected him to be brutal like he was as military head of state, for example kill or at least jail oil thieves - both those in NNPC and at the pipelines and loading docks, jail corrupt government officials, etc. But at the end of the day, he made Jonathan look like a Saint.

Tinubu, is not even interested in corruption. He is more interested implicating World Bank and IMF inspired economic policies - free market economy. Even the US, China, UK, etc., are not implementing completely free market economies. They have subsidies, protections, tariffs, on all critical imported items.

GeneralDae:
Yet people expect us to keep defending the naira at 460 even with all these.

To me the problem is not defending the Naira, after all China and Japan still defend their currency. The elephant in the room everyone decide to be blind to is corruption. Its corruption thar made CBN not to declare its financial report for 8 years, its corruption that have made NNPC not to have declared their financial report till date. It was corruption that destroyed the subsidy regime. I have never understood the subsidy regime though. NNPC ,who was the only importer of petrol says it does crude swap deals with partners, but at the same time they say they pay subsidy. So who were they paying subsidies to?

Instead of Tinubu to kill the elephant in the room, he decided to go after the ants because they are a softer target.

Peppysco:
Quit being a hypocrit and a cry baby, Nigeria's economic collapse didn't start today, you only decided not to talk, 2 administrations ago.

Yes agreed that economic collapse did not start today, but must the collapse be completed under Tinubu? One thing I respect Buhari for was his refusal to float the Naira and remove subsidy during the oil crash of 2015. The IMF, World Bank and international financial organisations and some so called Nigerian financial expert imposed tremendous pressure on Buhari to float the Naira and remove fuel subsidy. He refused because he was aware that it was a trap, a trap IMF and world Bank has been setting for us since the days of IBB.

Now, Tinubu fell for the trap, and we are facing run away inflation, which will completely destroy the economy.

We are watching (popcorn and coke in hand) to see how Tinubu will free us from this trap.

Segunbabba:
Federal government should ban Binance and Kucoin now if they want the stability of naira. Since binance and Kucoin have refused to sell at the central bank official rate, Tinubu should act fast.

It's not about Binance or Kucoin, it has to do with the law of demand and supply. As long as we export crude in dollars and now turn around to import petrol at a higher price in dollars, but sell to Nigerians in Naira, there will always be upwards pressure on the dollar. If we now add the other imports like Rice, dairy products, sugar, clothes and textiles, medicine, etc., and then also add services like medical tourism and school fees, you will understand that the Naira would forever be subject to the laws of gravity (free fall)

The government is always looking for scape goats to blame on its lack of coherent financial, fiscal and structural policies. If its not banks, they would blame Bureau de Change, they had even blame Aboki.com before. Now its Binance and Kucoin.

BoldBrainz:
Which shouldn't even be our problem, if you stop to think about it.

This issue of petrol price increase is being addressed here as a matter of presumption. It is not. The price of petrol is certainly going to be raised within the next two weeks, depending on when the next shipments of products arrive the sea ports. And there's literally nothing even Tinubu can do about it, as long as the naira keeps collapsing against the dollar.

It's viscous cycle. As long as Nigeria does not refine a drop of crude oil and our energy mix is primarily petrol (and diesel) based. Then we would require more dollars to import petrol with each round of imports, which in turn lead to increase more increase in price.
So each round of imports will lead to increases in price of petrol. I'm effect, we should expect petrol increases every 3 months.

basilico:
Don't care what traitor Pence says.
This is the correct position as pertains the construction.

https://ballotpedia.org/Can_members_of_Congress_object_to_Electoral_College_results%3F_(2020)



Can members of Congress object to Electoral College results? (2020)
This article covers subjects specific to the 2020 general election. It has not been updated to reflect subsequent developments.
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On January 6 of each year following a presidential election, Congress convenes a joint session to count electoral votes and confirm the result of the presidential election. Congress has the discretion to move the date of the session by law, as it did in 2013 when the joint session was held on January 4. In these sessions, according to the Electoral Count Act of 1887, members of Congress may object to statewide election results or specific electoral votes in a particular state or the District of Columbia.

Specifically, during the session one member of the U.S. House and one member of the U.S. Senate must submit a written objection after the body reads the vote count from a particular state or D.C.

Once a House member and Senator submit an objection, the two chambers of Congress separate to debate for two hours and to vote on whether to continue counting the votes in light of the objection. Both chambers must vote by a simple majority to concur with the objection for it to stand, otherwise the objection fails.



Further on, it states that the house vote does not depend on the numbers.
Each state One vote. Conservatives had more states than lefties. ( I may be wrong)

Now I'm sure you can see the importance of the pipe bomb. Just 10 minutes before Ray Epps cohorts broke down the barricades, Pelosi was informed about discovery of the two pipe bombs. That was also just before the objections were raised. She quickly adjourned the proceedings Only to reconvene it later under an Emergency Session. The pipe bomber has never been found and will never be found. No media talks about him. Most likely a Fed.

So Mike Pence who was a Republican far before Trump, who was a governor and house of representatives member is now a traitor the minute he decided to do the right thing and not follow the criminal instructions of his criminal boss. According to MAGA cult, the only patriots in the US is Donald Trump who incidentally ran away from laying his life to fight for the US and would not allow any member of his family to fight for US. Mike Pence is a traitor for not declaring Trump winner and himself vice president in an election he knew they clearly lost?

You drivel is so senseless that it borders on schizophrenia. What you wrote and insinuated makes no sense whatsoever.
What Pence said is exactly what the article you linked said 100%.
Let me itemise what process for Objecting Electoral College results entail according to the link you quoted

1. One House member and one Senator submit an objection.
2. The two chambers of Congress separate to debate for two hours and to vote on whether to continue counting the votes in light of the objection.
3. Both chambers must vote by a simple majority to concur with the objection for it to stand, otherwise the objection fails.
4. If both chambers of Congress affirm the objection and the objection results in no one candidate receiving the necessary 270-vote Electoral College majority, the 12th Amendment dictates a congressional process for selecting a president and vice president.

5. The House of Representatives votes to elect the new president. As a bloc, members of the House cast one vote per state, choosing between the three candidates who received the most Electoral College votes.

6. The Senate votes to elect the Vice President, casting one vote per senator.

What Pence said is that there would be chaos in the house of representatives, why? Because the house of representatives was controlled by Pelosi led Democratic Party.

Ironically, under this scenario, Pence would retain his Vice Presidency as the Senate then was controlled by Republicans.

Favorisieren:
You must be a kid.

Anyway, this is your take home: The worst democracy is better than the best military.

If you do not understand the statement above consult an expert in economics, government, and international relations.

Shalom!!!

How have we fared after 24 years of continuous democracy? Compared that to how China fared after 24 years of continuous autocracy. I am not in anyway advocating for military rule, but democracy seems to favour only the ruling class.

Now if democracy is working, the military would not have any excuse to come in. Ask your self why ordinary people come put to celebrate military coups if they were enjoying democracy so much.

mysticwarrior:
A combination of Guinea, Burkina Faso, Mali and Niger cannot wage war against Kaduna and Kano state not to talk about the entire Nigeria. Russia has shown no military interest in Niger and the US would never intervene in an African hostility, after dead bodies of American soldiers were shown in TV sartions all over the world during the battle of Mogadishu.

Wars are the most unpredictable of human endeavours. Once the hostility starts, you can never predict the outcome. Numbers and weaponry alone don't necessarily determine the outcome of wars, other factors like motivation, terrain, organisational capabilities, alliances, weather and sometimes pure luck plays crucial roles, else US would not have lost to Vietnam, Russia would have taken over Ukraine within days.

US would never send in boots to fight in Niger, they would only send in weapons and help with communication and intelligence.
Russia is looking to extend its influence in Africa and the Niger crisis would present a perfect opportunity to have allies. Russia would not be directly involved, it will only send in Wagner forces - openly or clandestinely.

Bro I agree that you have deep understanding in legal proceedings, but when it comes to military history and diplomacy leave it for those who are born to analyze such.

President Tinubu also does not have a good understanding of diplomacy and history. He never consulted historians or diplomats before issuing threats and declaring ultimatums. He complicated the situation right from the beginning.

I still remembered the very first time you quoted me and you said " Britain has never lost a battle" that was some years back and I reminded you of how Britain lost the American war of independence.

Maybe you misunderstood me. What I meant to say was Britain was never conquered. Julius Ceaser and Danes conquered parts of it, but was never able to subjugate the whole island before they were driven out.

Furthermore, I view the US war of independence as war among brothers. George Washington and a bulk of his soldiers were of British roots and trained by Britain.

Favorisieren:
I am not a fan of Tinubu, and it doesnt affect me if he is kicked out. I am just pro democracy.

Any other comment from you?

Democracy has not been working in Africa. All it has produced are civilian dictators, rigged elections, corruption and continued exploitation by colonial masters.

basilico:
Wirinet, the Twitter video by Posobiec. Pence clearly says he would have been forced to turn the elections over to the House of Representatives.He did not because he feared chaos would break out.

If some house rep and senate rep voice an objection, the full house has to discuss the objection for I think two hours.
This might have been changed recently .
Jam 6 . An objection was raised. Immediately the pipe bomb was found and Pelosi adjourned seasion.On resumption Pence did not have any power to give the objectors a chance since it was now an emergency session. Those are facts the libtard media narrative cannot let you know.

Pence letter to the Senate detailing his position. Take note of the first paragraph of the second page.

abbeynism:
So many dumb responses here.
This is first stage of war: psychological.
The war is not Nigeria vs Niger it is Ecowas vs Niger. All Ecowas countries will bring their armies and armours.

It is jot a war against Niger but to prevent what many never forseen that might happen in most countries in Africa and the style of ruling.

Bauzoum is elected and must either remain or impeached. Niger might experience cote'dvoire ruling of Gbagbo.

Who is Ecowas, who is Nigeria? Nigeria is practically Ecowas. When ECOWAS intervened in Liberia, who funded the war and sacrificed its soldiers? Nigeria funded that adventure 70%, and what did you we gained in return?

A military intervention in Niger will be the worst mistake Nigeria will ever make.

mysticwarrior:
The coupists will not survive an Ecomog military intervention on Niger, he would be compelled to relinquish power.

Military intervention would not involve Niger alone, it will also involve Mali, Burkina Faso, Chad and Guinea, and not forgeting Wagner. The whole of Nigeria's northern border will be affected. It will just become another proxy war between Russia and USA. Except the US promises to finance the war, I don't subscribe to wasting our little earnings and gains from subsidy on a senseless war.

IjeBos:
Factcheck:
Pence was speaking of the Trump plan to have him illegally reject the electors and then the subsequent chaos that would cause because it would have been illegal .

Don't mind them, they were aptly described by Hillary Clinton as deplorable. Pence has said numerous times that he lacked the powers to reject electoral votes. He even wrote a letter to the Senate to reiterate it. Just because pence explained what would have happened had he rejected the votes, the deplorables jumped on that to push the narrative that pence said he has the legal authority to reject electoral votes already confirmed by state executives and legislatures.

Obrigardo:
When I say you are a complete joke, I'm not wrong.
You've twisted yourself so much that you are even making a better case for Jack Smith. So criminal trump can't deny he pressured pence to install his fake electors. Lol

The guy is really annoying. He seems to be trying too hard to please his employers. If you listened to the twitter video Pence never said or insinuated that that there is a legal process for anything, what he said was that if he rejected the votes as was presured and blackmailed by Trump and his crackpot lawyers (he used the adjective crackpot deliberately to highlight the illegality of their scheme), then the issue would have gone to the house of representatives which would have led to chaos.