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Thank God for deliverance, hatters and bad belle can say all they want but God pass alladem... may God continue to protect all those that love him and call on him in JESUS Name... Amen...

Bossontop:
Its like all of us are not from nigeria again oooo

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adewumiopeyemi:
Don't you see her offense. She killed someone because she was raped. By his boss she said she was .was acting in self defense..

How do you read, right to left or down to up? Try read the story again, this time read left to right and up to down...

TheABOMINATION:
The modern day Christian love to believe the once saved always saved doctrine, because it lets them indulge in sin with peace of mind.

In effect, he is not a Christian in the first place...

A Christian is a follower of Christ... Christ was not forced to do the things he did, He did it out of love, and doing much more than what he did is possible when we accept Christ as our Lord and believe in him, and depend on him...

so, its impossible to be saved and still be doing bad things... the Holy Spirit will not allow you rest, he will continue to disturb your spirit, God himself will put stumbling blocks everywhere and chastise you severally till you come to your senses...

I submit that @alBHAGDADIs post is relevant... I went through that message thoroughly with personal scriptural analysis and am convinced its true... Salvation is permanent... that's the real gift of salvation...

xerxes456:
its simple, Saved and be forever saved if you continue to believe in Christ and no matter what happens and you remain under the shadow of the almighty, so, just as faith without works is dead, we cannot continue in sin so that grace may abound, just because where sin abounds grace much more abounds...

What this means in effect is there must be that personal effort of CONTINUING, the moment you stop believing or you sin and refuse to allow the grace of reconciliation bring you back to the presence of God in humble repentance, [s]you cannot expect to still be saved, if you die that way, like Lots wife its damnation[/s] just play your part and be like Jesus... there's so much liberty in Christ.

its simple, Saved and be forever saved if you continue to believe in Christ and no matter what happens and you remain under the shadow of the almighty, so, just as faith without works is dead, we cannot continue in sin so that grace may abound, just because where sin abounds grace much more abounds...

What this means in effect is there must be that personal effort of CONTINUING, the moment you stop believing or you sin and refuse to allow the grace of reconciliation bring you back to the presence of God in humble repentance, you cannot expect to still be saved, if you die that way, like Lots wife its damnation.

lordtim001:
Hebrews 10:26
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins

We are all born as sinners. The sacrifice of Jesus has paid for that. Although we can not fully measure up to God's standards, we need to try our best. Do not expect to be wallowing in sin and have the thinking that grace covers all things

Yea there's truth in what you're saying, but its half-truth, not the full truth...
"sinning willfully" in that context simply means turning your back completely from the truth, Abandoning Christ and not allowing the grace of reconciliation to be of no effect by killing our conscience completely "after that we have received the knowledge of the truth"...

Its different from falling into temptation, as in this case you really don't want to do it, but the flesh overpowered the spirit and there, you fell, but then, Titus 2 vs 11 - 14*, Kicks in, and like Paul in Roman 7 vs 14 - 25**, you begin to moan and groan in the spirit, the moment you open you mouth and ask for forgiveness, like a river Gods mercy comes pouring in...

there's no need to struggle with sin or in your words "we need to TRY our best" , if you've made up your mind to serve God, it won't be difficult, yes sometimes you may fail in fact often times you may fail, but just keep at it dont give up... dont try its not trial and error... go at it with passion and conviction... and always remember our self-righteousness is a filthy rag before God, Christ is our righteousness.

*( "For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; 13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; 14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. "Titus 2 vs 11 - 14)

**(For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. 16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. Roman 7 vs 14 - 25)

Amazingman:
So is the world free for u?

The world is not free, as long as there are laws you must abide by and the fear of death exists, there's no freedom even for the free thinker, but there's liberty in Christ, for we do not seek to fulfil the works of the flesh(meeting up with the demands of the laws of the world) rather we walk in the spirit (under the lordship of Christ) above those laws, so... there it is, there's so much liberty in Christ, not even death can scare us...{those in Christ}...

WavyJohn:
Dieing poor sounds like the worst destruction..

Bullshit all die na die... poor or rich, makes no difference...

LeoFish92:
Greetings family-landers, I'm having this issue which has been bordering me, I finished service last year, recently got an online side hustle which gives me 30k per month.

And at 26,I'm no longer comfortable staying at home with my parents, I can't hang out late with my friends without my parents drowning my phone with calls, as early as 8.pm at night the calls will start flowing as if I'm a customer care agent. (really frustrating)

Almost all my guys are living on their own, and to make matters worse, I can't receive any female visitor cos of my religious parents and lack of privacy.

On the flip side, I'm scared if a 30k monthly salary can be enough for a guy who wants to rent and probably furnish a self-con of 70-80k per year. (I'm not the extravagant type)

I've never lived alone so I'm really confused if I should make this move at this point in my life.

Guys who are living on their own, what's your take on this?

whatever yoir reasons are, it's very valid... question is can you handle it? My advice is move and learn, get out of there and start being the man of your dreams... move, life will push you to achieve... just move out...

rentAcock:
I'm more amazed that you took your time to write this rubbish. Video games are a form of entertainment and nothing more. So many grown men waste valuable time playing silly video games that doesn't enrich them in anyway. Why should Nigeria even have a video game title Aren't there more Nigerian youths already languishing away by gambling? Video games leads to lack of productivity and that's the last thing a society needs. Abeg there are already too many forms of media fighting for our eyeballs, we don't need more of them.

Just your opinion... what you don't know is always bigger than you...

ifyain:
I believe you are a typical woman, they always pay evil with evil, I do not see any difference between you and the guy.Do good without expecting anything in return.His conscience is already blaming him and I guess he must have learnt a bitter lesson.

so you'll employ that person, who does't have compassion on strangers into your company, in the name of doing good? That's how he will come with his wickedness and chase all your customers away.

Even the so called artifacts no want come back... come do wetin for naija

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thats the end... today is my Lazy day

blakky97:
not until you see through the eyes of the victim, you won't join us to fight crime and corruption......lucky dube

No mind them, They've not been affected before, typical of Nigerians, it's only when they are directly affected then you see them crying. Instead of fighting in solidarity and as one body.

Crime is crime, if we were vigilant enough, if our fathers were vigilant enough to fight crime from the onset, the reason for crime today would have been reduced. Nonetheless its never too late to start fighting it... say no to crime and criminals... Nigerians stop painting good bad and bad good, it may suffice for now but I tell you it's never sustainable.

NOBLE IGWE good job... no mind that thief Oymykke or whatever is his name, EFCC, investigate him...

No wahala... we the "Broke Guys" knows that we will certainly make it with more hard work and Gods grace, so we can give our girls assurance and back it up with time, but you wey get the money full road, wey the girl wey you don fit give better assurance, other than baby mama... Small pickin "omolomo"... ...

kayola11:
Yea I know I was so mad at his comment ....

...and BTW this car is 2003...

paxonel:
you better be realistic when you read your bible.
Confession in that scripture is all about being convinced, you know there is a way you are convinced about an issue before you know it, it escapes your mouth.
For instance, if I did not know about Jesus and you come to preach Jesus to me, the moment I'm convinced of your preaching the next thing that will come out or escape out of my mouth is, of a truth Jesus is the Christ based on what you preach. What I have just done is, I have confessed Christ, at that point, my salvation begins there,That is what Romans 10:9 is trying to explain.
Confession is always associated with conviction and denying Christ also comes with conviction too.
So, Leah can actually say I deny Christ with his mouth, then it will take her inner conviction for that denial to be affective.
meanwhile, deep inside her, her conviction is Jesus Christ is her savior, that conviction she got it long time ago.
See, that will now be between her alone and God who justifies her, no third party, Boko haram becomes powerless thinking that what she saying is true.
all these scriptures are not correlating at all with what we are saying
please direct your preaching to non christians or Muslims

False prophet... so what does it mean to "LIE" or to "DECEIVE", if I can say what I don't really believe how far away am I from Lying or deceiving.

Are these Christian virtues?

or human manipulative wisdom?

paxonel:
exactly!
And that's what I'm trying to let them know, that they can still rejuvenate their dead brain cells and practice real christianity .
Not all these fake things they are doing

well true Christians have "dead brains", We're dead to the flesh and the things of this world.

We are dead to canal human reasoning.

we are called into a new life which is completely out of touch with world practices...

We are more different than you can ever think...

I pray you join us and understand someday...

our hope is out of this world, "For if in this world we have all our hopes, then we are of all men most miserable..."

paxonel:
I'm not bringing Islam into christianity, i didn't even know that this is permitted in Islam. However, if Muslims are already thinking like this then obviously, it is a simple application of common sense found in every sensible human whether Muslim or christian.
this is big lie, there is no scriptural basis for this your assertion

common sense is never common... get wisdom bros... the things of God cannot be understood with mere human wisdom and a canal mind,
Proverbs 14:12 (NKJV) There is a way that seems right to a man,
But its end is the way of death.
its always like that.
for the issue of denying Christ, here are some scriptural backings.

Matthew 10:31-33 So don’t be afraid; you are more valuable to God than a whole flock of sparrows. “Everyone who acknowledges me publicly here on earth,( Not just in the heart, "Openly" ) I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. But everyone who denies me here on earth, I will also deny before my Father in heaven.

2 Timothy 2:11-12 This is a trustworthy saying: If we die with him, we will also live with him. If we endure hardship, we will reign with him. If we DENY him, he will deny us.


Denying Christ severe you from God.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

1 John 2:22-23 And who is a liar? Anyone who says that Jesus is not the Christ. Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is an antichrist. Anyone who denies the Son doesn’t have the Father, either. But anyone who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

By denying you automatically become an antichrist.

if you remember the story of peter in the bible, where he denied Christ, it was by Gods mercy he was restored, its not a toying thing. true Christians will understand... but church goers and bench warmers can never understand...

the canal mind is always an enemy of God and will always form wiseness...

ollah2:
Usual nonsense. Isn't the Quran also a book of events that happened and stories et al?

You find a way to exonerate the Bible but same logic can't be used for the Quran.

Bigotry and hypocrisy at its peak

I just gave a sneak peak of the framework of the Bible, if you have facts, kindly explain the structure of your quran.

Meanwhile that link you gave...
https://islam.stackexchange.com/questions/10768/death-penalty-for-apostasy-according-to-quran

Doesn't explain against the fact that you can deny Islam in the face of threat, even in cases of deceiving people to make them think you're their friends for whatever reasons.

ollah2:
You see how hypocritical and sentimental you are with the emboldened. The Quran is quoted the way it should but the Bible is always wrongly quoted.

Now, explain this verse to us

Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

Deuteronomy 17:3-5 "And he should go and worship other gods and bow down to them or to the sun or the moon or all the army of the heavens, .....and you must stone such one with stones and such one must die."

let me just take some time to highlight somethings for you per adventure you'll understand.

1. The Bible is not just a book of instructions, it's a story time line of events, withing these events God shows how he dealt with people withing those timeliness.

2. The major time line division is the Old and New Testaments, the world Testament is like a compendium of testimonies, or what we can refer today as " documentaries".

3. The Old Testament has old principles and practices and in our time such practices are still adhered to buy core Jews (they can be called the Judaist etc) but there's so much lessons to be learned from the old Testament.

4. The New Testament talks more about Jesus Christ his birth, Death and resurrection, his teachings and teachings of his Deciples, remember I talked of time lines, the new Testament is a different time line from the old testament

5. Finally Christians as the name implies "Small Christ" are followers of Jesus Christ and his teaching, we read the Old Testament and learn from them, but we follow Christ teaching in our daily lives.

Jesus Christ summarised the entire old Testament and came up with a better covenant, ( a better agreement between God and man, and a better way by which God is dealing with man) all those laws of the old Testaments were summarised to just one thing, LOVE... so all those passages you've been quoting are just lessons and not what we live by, it's just like showing people how 1950 cars were designed and driving a 2018 Mercedes.. Bros no b the same thing...

paxonel:
yes, this is basics you are getting wrong.
You are not a christian for anybody to be inspired or know who you are.

Yes, it is good to inspire people
,
But the truth is,
You are a christian for Christ.
Jesus Christ knows his own, he bears witness in his spirit that you have the spirit of God which makes you a christian, he does not need any human evidence or until you proclaiming or denying christianity to people before he judges to know your stand whether you are his own or not.
he deals with exactly what is in your heart, not what you say out for people to hear.
I will prove all these things scripturally.

you're bringing Islam into Christianity, they're two wide worlds apart, it's impossible to stand in between.
This is the most confusing statement I've ever heard...
a Muslim is permitted to deny Islam provided his heart doesn't deny it... but it's not so for a Christian it's such a big deal, whenever such test comes up heaven and hell will be in attention to see if that Christian can bow or not, there so much involved...

paxonel:
she has not denied her faith, she only tell them I have accepted Islam and denied christianity for her to get her life back, but deep inside her, she knows Christ is her savior and nothing can come into her heart and thought to change that, not even death.
That is how to be wise.

I tell you, Joseph of arimathea secretly believe in his heart that Jesus was the Christ, yet he sat among the Pharisees pretending to be one of them.
Now, that is wisdom

that's Islamic teachings... it's not christianity, with the mount confession is made unto salvation, it's not what goes into the mouth that defiles, it's what come out of the mouth, our words direct our live issues... our words are very important, why is denouncing Christ such a big deal, the devil knows the power of the tongue, it can do and undo on earth and in heaven... so Bros no be just talk... it's more than what you think... wisdom of God is far from man's wisdom, even me no fit understand completely...

paxonel:
Op, there are other ways Leah sharibu would have done it and set herself free from captivity and still remain a christian which would have been wiser than her inspiring christians who are observing the situation at the expense of her freedom and liberty.

Denying Islam in the presence of her captors who want her to change her faith to Islam for her freedom is not necessary.
The decision will never inspire christians in anyway, Though they can pretend to be inspired

I guess because she is still a child, she cannot think of any other way, so she remains in captivity(hopefully, God may touch her captors to release her)

An adult christian is not expected to be childish like that

Yes that's why most "Adult Christians" will never make heaven... read Luke 18: 16. We think we are wise as adults.
Do you know there was a case in Kaduna where Christians were ask to deny Christ so they might live? The moment they denied Christ they were all killed immediately... be wise. fear God first, man can only destroy the flesh, but God can destroy both flesh and the soul... by the way what's so exiting in this country that someone would really want to live for, if I have that opportunity I would gladly die and go to heaven, Nigeria is stage 1 he'll fire... May God deliver her from her captives in Jesus Name.

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Neurotika:
Lmao. It's your mind doing the trick. Once you are expecting something, your whole brain becomes addicted to thinking of it. Since your brain cells doesn't sleep, it replays your thoughts in a non organized manner at sleep or in your subconscious. Then you wake up and boom! God has spoken. You start a church. Since great motivation is needed to excel at anything, you start excelling at the church. It's a further prove to you that 'God' sent you. The numbers attract more crowds and you are made. Prophecy becomes easy when there is a large crowd now. 'somebody here will receive an important call before next week that will catapult his destiny'. Law of large numbers help you. Someone gets a call. He runs to the church to pay you handsomely for that 'miraculous prophecy'. The word spreads that a great man of God is somewhere. You become a General Overseer of many branches with just a normal dream you had. Is God not wonderful?

if thats the case i suppose don hammer by now, you know how hard, i don try trick my mind say that snake wey swallow N36bn go die inside my house before i reach house from work? abeg hook me up with these your wild principles...

Duplik8t77:
and then he said he didn't come to bring peace but the opposite yet he is loving....pls can you elaborate

Yes because as a Christian, our life will pose certain challenges to certain people, even Jesus himself was hated and killed by his own people, this is what he was referring to, people like you would exist and would hate Christians and look for ways of giving them bad names..
But the Christian would have internal peace of mind, he will call on God in times of persecution and tribulations and God will answer and comfort him.

Duplik8t77:
and then he said he didn't come to bring peace but the opposite yet he is loving....pls can you elaborate

Yes because as a Christian, our life will pose certain challenges to certain people, even Jesus himself was hated and killed by his own people, this is what he was referring to, people like you would exist and would hate Christians and look for way of giving them bad names..
But the Christian would have internal peace of mind, he will call on God in times of persecution and tribulations and God will answer and comfort him.

ollah1:
While doing your "research " and spamming Nairaland with these same lines without adding nothing to your life. You must have skipped these verses from the Bible


Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior." Ephesians 5:22-23

"if a man be found lying with a woman married to a husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman and the woman; so shalt thou put away evil from Israel." [Deuteronomy 22.22]

Peter 2:18: "Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel."

“I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12)


Quit being a bigot.. It only makes you hate your fellow men because you don't share same ideology and it's not possible for everybody to share same idelogies.

Bros stop quoting scriptures arbitrarily, it's very clear you're on a fault finding mission, what ever the case, wives should submit and husband should love,
That old Testament book you quoted doesn't apply to Christians, we follow Christ and we cannot commit adultery if we do, we ask God for forgiveness through Christ and it's Done...
There's no where Christ advise us to beat our wives or kill anybody for any reason... God is love, and Jesus is love personified...
Jesus said behold old things are passed away, all things have become new... we are Christians not Judaist.

Statsocial:
First of all no Pastor is being threatened by freeze or whatever you call him. Some of them are just alarmed by his effrontery just the same way the Apostles of Old were alarmed at some individuals who were trying to mislead the Church with a different message even though they had no Authority to do so.

You need to get something straight no matter what you do you can't stop the core rccg, winners, Deeperlife or mfm members from paying tithes. Perhaps the only ppl you would convince are ppl who never paid before.
And I would say this, whether Christians pay tithe or not is entirely up to pastors to decide.

When Jesus left the Earth he gave the church two things
1) The Holy Spirit
2) Men of God(Church leaders)

He did this because he believed the Church would be fine as long as the Hierarchy in Church holds. This goes in line with how God establishes institutions. When he created the family he made the man the head and when man said that structure wasn't in line with modernity they began to do it their own way and today America has a 50% divorce rate resulting in many fatherless children many of whom end up in prisons, addicts etc.

Back to Churches. Whenever there was dispute in the Early Church the Jewish Christians, Macedonian Christians, Corithian Christians, Thessalonians all wrote to the Church for Doctrinal Guidance and Church responded with scriptural(old testament) references. They sought for the leadership of the Apostles even though they had access to the same Old Testament that Paul Used to prove the instructions of the Church. They knew it was important to achieve oneness in the body of Christ so they had to submit to the leadership of the Church in Humility.

The same Berean Christians that is so cited by most of these rebels got their proof from Paul who used the Old Testament to build his case. How is it now that the same Old Testament is abominable to use by today's pastors. We all Know what the opinion of Abraham, Moses and Jesus about the Tithe.

Lol some of those rascals even claimed Jesus was referring to the Pharisees. However the Church learned to pray in sincerity after Jesus condemned the PHARISEES for hypocritical prayer and fasting. The Church learnt not to Condemn after Jesus defended the adulterous woman who was being hounded by Legalist(PHARISEES), the church learned that Sabbath was not important after Jesus played down Sabbath while conversing with Pharisees. How is it now that the same Jesus who taught the Church using the Pharisee is now being sidelined in the Faith he created?

The only ones whose opinion was never recorded about Tithing were the Apostles of the Early Church. Understanbly because Christians gave more than the Tithe in those days. However the Apostles of the Early Church are in the same dispensation as the apostles of today. Hence the clarity over tithing can only be given by Today's Church leaders.

The last time when Church members tried to school the Apostles it led to an error of Peter and resulted in Paul having to openly rebuke him.
At a time, Paul was so pressured by some of these know it all Christians that he had to carry out circumsicision on an adult male to pacify some church people

That same mistake would never be allowed to repeat itself! The Church leaders have the Authority to lead the Church and no one else. If you are not happy about it you can stay in your house!

Lastly what is Femi Aribisala angry about with Ashimolowo calling Freeze a Yoyo. Haven't you heard how Paul delivered the physical body of a Christian who was troubling him to be judged by Satan(which essentially means Sickness)

Freeze as probably done worse by insulting Pastors and calling them Yahoo boys hence those pastors are allowed to Spiritually deal with him. Let us correct his brain so his spirit can be saved.

Human wisdom and twisted tales... please try not to add or minus from the scriptures... God will fight his battle you can only be a tool but not the fighter... be careful...

Just to lend my contribution to this topic, I have personal experience with this SARS, before then I used to think like this OP, but SARS cleared my doubt, I can't go into details but one thing I know is SARS and the entire police from top to bottom need serious revamping, in fact it should be scrapped and reset over and over till they get it right.. let me hold it here... may God help us...