₦airaland Forum

tsdarkside:
i said soo....

whats the difference between that guy and sowore now....??

cownunu said he is going to get buharis head in a video too,but people like you still said he was innocent....

Why are you derailing the subject?
What's the point of bringing Kanu into a comparison between Sowore and the dumb anti-Trump guy?
If you cannot differentiate between Kanu and Sowore's case, then it is not worth continuing a discussion with you.

tsdarkside:
wait wait....you do know what a revolution is,right....??

how can you be using that word against a democraticaly elected goverment....??

does that even make sense to you....??

it seem people like you dont understand nothing....

newsflash....:
peoples elected buhari with their votes....!!

You are the ignorant one here.
Revolution means nothing unless what the evidence and court determine it to be.
It is not the duty of Buhari or DSS to determine what a revolution means.
This is a common word used every day in various settings and industries.

But if you believe all DSS agents are too dumb to legally hold Sowore, you can apply
for the job and tell them how to do it without resorting to illegality.

No judge on free conscience can ever find Sowore guilty of a crime he is alleged to want
to commit.

Hint: when the government has a case, they don't need to act illegally because the court
would agree with them.

sparog:
Always check your facts before you say stuffs... Someone can be detained in the US without trial, there are laws backing it up.

It is you that needs to check your fact.
It is the Patriot Act that you attempted to reference which doesn't even apply to US citizens.
The Supreme court has declared its indefinite detention unconstitutional.

rOsy247:
I'm glad this age long barbaric practice of most women is coming to full glare, courtesy of modern technology and social media. it will definitely reduce. Let's keep exposing them because they are everywhere. In our neighborhood, church and society at large. Wicked women maltreating other people's children. Wicked women venting their frustration on children as if they caused their predicament.

We might even have some of them here or nairaland. Let's keep exposing them.

No. Most women are not like that.
If they were, this wouldn't be news.
With these old women, this practice has nothing to do with the victims being their children.
They are wicked to all.

DaBullIT:
You started well, you ended it badly


Threat to US president is the same thing Sowore was detained for

In his case, he has shown intent, threatened a county and threatened the president


One of two things will happen


They will either forget him in a nameless jail


Or he gets tried for treason and will be executed


Either way that dude isn't walking free anytime soon


Especially if they search his properties and find he has ISIS /terrorist connect or that he's capable of building a bomb


His friends will feel the heat too

No, Sowore made no specific threat against any individual.
That was why the DSS have to resort to illegality to hold him.
If you have contrary evidence, please provide it.

The US is not a banana republic where someone can be detained indefinitely
without trial.

Treason?
Trump has bastardized what treason really means according to the US constitution that the average person
now believes him.
You need to read more!

The man can never get a death sentence for whatever alleged crime he is planning to commit.
Even the dumbest of lawyers will get him off the hook.
Well, he could be convicted(not for treason). Maybe he is a tax dodger or once sold drug but
those are irrelevant to the speech he makes.

You don't need to add more to the story with the bold unless you agree that the government has no case.

He was arrested for threatening and not for building a bomb.
The man is walking free very soon.

hardbody:
And people still wonder why i remain apolitical, not registered, not carrying a card and don't even know which political party the president or my governor represents. So true that where ignoance is bliss, it is folly to be wise

People are not wondering.
They know you are a coward.

Commentor:
Ipob won't call Trump a tyrant now.

Trump didn't arrest him.
The idiot actually threatened to kill Trump.
He didn't call for protest or armed revolution.
He directly threatened Trump with death.

The good news is that he will not be detained indefinitely against court orders.
It is also very unlikely that he will be convicted because there is no evidence
that he plans to carry out his threat.

This is what you get when you refuse to condemn criminals because they belong to your tribe.
The bandits can't be stopped.
Neither Buhari nor leaders of the community is interested in fighting their brothers.

Elvis2kay:
USA the biggest liar of all time.. A country that deliberately killed her own citizens in 9/11. Just to convinced the word that it was a terrorist attacked.

Another one.
Too dumbt to think.

salford1:
Even though there were 63 Canadians on that plane, this is how much we Canadians believe our brothers south of the border

Not surprising.
There are a class of people who prefers their own destruction than confronting a threat
all in the name of being politically correct.
People now take a position based on who is supporting or opposing it regardless of facts.

Sani wasn't that smart afterall.
A politically exposed person like him who is out of power and favor should have treaded
more carefully in his financial dealings.
No matter what the money was for, he should never have accepted any payment from an
an individual under investigation.

I agree.

Typical APC man.

Davash222:
Still don’t understand why Afenifere is against the peace of SW.

That is likely due to brain fog.

It is a regional police.
Anybody not satisfied can use the lagoon.

quirus:
He may not have any army, but he is supporting unwarranted murder and violence. Has he not read of the Biblical injunction of turning the other cheek?

Because of Trump's actions now the world is going to be a more dangerous place to live in this 2020.

"Unwarranted murder" is a subjective opinion.
It doesn't matter what he supports.
He isn't a US citizen and he has no say in who gets elected or what they do.

So, this man is still alive?

Afamed:
The real Afenifere died with Abraham Adesanya. The ones you are seeing presently are PDP afenifebi. Have you seen them coming with any better solution regards the government policy? These are money bags Afenifebi. A new security policy / direction started less than 1 day, here we are they have started critising it for political gain

At least, they stated what the problem is unlike some cowardly governor.
What is the point of having a separate security outfit when they are still made of the incompetent police
that cannot confront armed herdsmen?
They couldn't even engage the tested OPC in any of their plans.

The pretenders should have donated the cars to the police instead of the charade they are engaging in.

oyinkinola:
...will you people stop this?

Stop what?
Some of us will never accept to be second class citizens in our own country.
Some people think the graveyard is peaceful for lack of conflict but I beg to differ.

Patrioticman007:
What a hypocrisy ?. Preach peace in the morn & strike innocent souls in the night. This what we call Christianity 2.0 by the adeboyes .

Who are the innocent being stricken?
I had no idea that the Adeboyes have a standing army anywhere.

Reptyle:
Sadly, I don't belong to the party or the religious group you think. This paranoia will do no one any good. There are bad eggs in every tribe and religion.

Comparing a government to a terrorist group because you aren't happy with their appointments or policies isn't right.

It is totally right.
A government can be a terrorist group if we go by dictionary definition.
It is not today that a government and a terrorist group shares the same agenda.
It may be paranoia to you because you stay in a safe place.
But it is not paranoia to the victims and their families because hell is real to them.

Your view isn't surprising as the average Nigerian does not care about any issues that don't
directly affect them. Others may perish as long as they and their families aren't involved. It is the
same mindset that gives us wicked politicians.

The terrorist group wants other people's land, the government wants the same land to placate
the angry terrorists.

Bad eggs are when someone got robbed or killed through random violence.
Terrorism is when a group is actively targeting another with a view to dislodging or subjugating them.

Regular thieves, robbers, kidnappers, cultists or ritualists are not on the same level with the supremacists
terrorist.

This difference isn't hard to understand.

From Zamfara to Katsina to Kaduna, the

Which other group in Nigeria is trying to destroy and dominate a local group via targeted violence?
I will be waiting for your answer.

At the height of the Benue crisis, people like you were angry that others spoke up.
But if not for the principled who believes that human life was more important than any
pretentious tolerance for violence and death, the crisis would still rage on.

Keemsleek005:
As much as I don't like involving myself in these issue firstly Afenifere should respect themselves that all I will say. On the issue of these opc and amotekun I have my own reservations, putting power in the hands of illiterates is my worry, if anybody here remebers what opc did then you be scared and anybody that live in ago palace okota isolo should have idea of what opc did then until that movie day obasanjo sent the army to storm okota that was the day opc power was crushed. I think the best way is to retrain them, give them proper orientation, give them out fit, let them look presentable ,profile them and not just put some crazy set of people that after sometime power will turn there hand.Gani Adams as no say in these.

You don't have to worry about OPC.
Amotekun was supposed to be a collaboration between regular armed forces and OPC same
as vigilantes work with the army in Borno.
I agree that retraining will be good.
But the governors had a meeting where Gani Adams was present only to go behind his back and
totally exclude him.

No policeman can do the work of OPC.

Afamed:
The real Afenifere died with Abraham Adesanya. The ones you are seeing presently are PDP afenifebi. Have you seen them coming with any better solution regards the government policy? These are money bags Afenifebi. A new security policy / direction started less than 1 day, here we are they have started critising it for political gain

At least, they stated what the problem is unlike some cowardly governor.
What is the point of having a separate security outfit when they are still made of the incompetent police
that cannot confront armed herdsmen?

The pretenders should have donated the cars to the police instead of the charade they are engaging in.

LegendHero:
What options did Afenifebi provide?

They are just a set of noise makers. Instead of them to work with the governors behind the scene, they are coming online to discourage the effort of the SW governors.

Is Rome built in a day? Sometimes actions like this are work in progress, so Afenifebi of all people should know this and they should stop barking at every thing that moves!

You are reasoning like a kid.
If not for them, you would be in a Fulani conquered farm feeding cows for free.

laurel03:
Afenifere not really exist in yoruba land they just talk on air and collect money from mugus during elections period

But Fulani herdsmen taking over lands does.
SMH for you.

shakmati:
I am not a sympathizer. I am only being reasonable.

ISWAP, Nairaland propagandist arm.
When ISIS was being crushed, no reasonable person remembered to be reasonable with them.
But again, when the goals aligned as is the case with Sharia, many people will side with terrorists.
SMH

Peacecoy19:
Kuka has turned a rogue bishop because government is not giving him personal favours.If not during Jonathan time it is everyday that Christian's and others were bombed and slaughtered like Rams we all can still remember those most dark days.But this stupid bishop did not liken the Government to Boko Haram then.Nobodyis happy that we still experience occasional violent attacks on our people but we are miles far safer than six years ago.God will us through it all.Only evil men will ignore the effort of this Government.

Reptyle:
Bishop Kukah has lost the plot.

It is unfortunate.

He lost the plot because he decided to voice out after so many years.
I remembered him defending some herdsmen about 1 to 2 years ago to my utter dismay.
What personal favors was government giving him from 2011 to 2015?
How about from 2015 to 2020?

You guys are a big part of the Nigerian problem as you are more interested in supporting your party/religion
than the country.

Reference:
The missiles launched were 'ballistic missiles' not surface to air missiles. They donot have 'locking' systems so cannot intercept airborne targets. And the passengerr aircraft took off about four hours after the missile strike which lasted only fifteen minutes or so.

It may (remotely) have been hit accidentally by an anti-anti-aircraft or air-defense battery but certainly not involved in anyway with the missile strike into Iraq.

Couldn't Iran have planned another wave right after the first one?

You may be right about the type of missile used but it is irrelevant.
The most important information is that a plane was downed inside Iran.

I believe the plane was accidentally struck as crashing it does not give Iran any advantage.
If the initial reports are true, the plane was downed by a missile just after takeoff.

Kinikini:
And you that debunked the news is also without authentic source and have no access to intelligence sources.

It is not a piece of news, stop calling it one.
What I wrote in response is facts mixed with opinion.
However, any averagely intelligent person can tell whether an opinion has merits
or is mere propaganda and conspiracy theories.

Just name one General that negotiates peace in modern times.

One of the Iranian missiles crashed the plane, so Iran would keep the black box to avoid exposing themselves.

Sanchez01:
I have always been against the bill but seeing how Nigerians are notorious at doing these crazy things on cyber space has made me shift grounds.

The social media bill needs to fly!

Do you think you are safe from such a bill?
What if a government you don't like ends up in power?
Do you accept a 4 years silence as a sacrifice for seeing your enemies burnt?

If you reflect on the bill you will realize that no one can be innocent, unless you use
the internet only for private messages.

Not even the proponent of the bill is safe should power change hands.

Coldie:
How would u invite ur enemy for peace talks on neutral soil then assassinate him. That's wrong.

Lies. Provide evidence that Trump invited the General to a meeting.
FYI, Iraq is not a neutral soil, it has so many Iranian militias operating within it..

Trump said the General was heading for a meeting to discuss terrorism and how to kill Americans, uptil now he hasn't been able to show proof of how he made that assertion.

I agree that Trump shows no proof.
But is that an excuse for you to lie about peace talks?