Everyone no matter how highly placed will one day bow to death. May you rest in peace Queen Elizabeth. The world will miss you.

Topsmamen:


He was looking at 0213 (Computer and Information Systems Managers), 2282 (User Support Technicians) seems to fit more though.

Yeah. Thanks guys for the assistance. 2282 kinda fits into my early day running the biz (2008 - 2012). More recently (2013 - date) 0651 or 0621 or 1211 fits somehow into my current status. I am still undecided yet.

I don't know if it is right using two NOC codes on a self employment.

Topsmamen:
@xtosync: how far with your NOC? The NOC people reply your email yet?

Thank you very much for checking in @Topsmamen.

I got the following reply:

Good day,



Thank you for your interest in the National Occupational Classification (NOC).



About the NOC



The NOC is designed to classify occupational information in the Canadian labour market in a standardized framework and a manageable, understandable and coherent system. The basic principle of classification of the NOC is that of ‘kind of work performed’. Occupations are identified and grouped primarily in terms of the work usually performed, this being determined by the tasks, duties, and responsibilities of the occupation. A job, in turn, encompasses all the tasks carried out by a particular worker to complete their duties.



In a nutshell, the NOC is a tool that is used to classify occupations according to their Skill Level and Skill Type. A four-digit code, called the "NOC code", identifies the occupation. Each digit of this code reflects an important characteristic of the occupation it represents.

· Please note that the National Occupational Classification (NOC) takes into consideration four components when establishing the NOC code for an occupation:



o the exact job title;

o a detailed description of the main duties;

o the education and work experience required by the employer for entry into the occupation; and

o the type of establishment in which the work is performed.



We recommend that you consult the following NOC tutorial to learn more about how occupations are classified: http://noc.esdc.gc.ca/English/NOC/Tutorial.aspx?ver=16.



How to search the NOC



A useful search tool can be found on the NOC Web site (http://noc.esdc.gc.ca/English/noc/welcome.aspx?ver=16) by using your occupational title or keywords related to your occupation in the Quick Search box located at the top or using a complex search in the Search the NOC box located at the top left side of the menu bar. This will generate a list of possible occupations.



· If your initial search does not yield a matching occupational profile, please try broadening or narrowing down your search by using different related keywords.



How to select a NOC code



In order to confirm and validate how closely a NOC code matches a given occupation, you must refer to the NOC profiles in question and review the main duties and employment requirements to assess which one most accurately represents the occupation in question. Other information within the NOC profile should also be assessed such as example titles, additional information, and classified elsewhere sections.



While the NOC is primarily used to communicate information about occupations, its structure and content are used by a number of major services and products throughout the private and public sectors. NOC code selection and confirmation relating to publicly- and privately-run programs, like Canada’s immigration system and Temporary Foreign Worker Program, rests with respective government departments and other related governing bodies.



Please note that the NOC unit’s role is only to provide guidance in your NOC search and it is not within our mandate to determine and/or confirm NOC code selections.



We hope this information is helpful. Thank you for contacting the NOC unit and have a nice day.



The NOC Unit

Employment and Social Development Canada

Gatineau, QC, Canada

Topsmamen:


Oh damn! So sorry about this. Thanks for informing us. The heads up is greatly appreciated, we are solidly behind you. This will eventually turn into a blessing and only one thing can only happen for you, and that's beautifully crowned success in this journey.

The closest NOC I see is 0631 but the main duties listed there do not correlate with yours. While we wait for the NOC experts here, please send an email with your job duties to Noc@workingincanada.gc.ca or NC-noc-CNP-GD@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca. They will advise you on the appropriate NOC. I hope these emails work and you get a favorable response. God bless you!

Thank you for this. I have sent an email to both address. Hoping to hear from them soon. Please anyone else that can help with this should do so. Let me know if to appeal or not, as I'm yet to see a best fit NOC better than 0213.

Hi there,
So the anti climax of this long almost two years ordeal is ending with a refusal due to incorrect NOC code. I applied with NOC code 0213 - Computer and Information System Manager.

This is what I should have done two years back, but I honestly thought I was on the right course. I am sharing so that it serves as a lesson to others getting into the process. Seek all the advice and counsel you can especially wherever you have doubts, even if it make you look or sound like a slowpoke.

In 2017, I spent more than a month confused about the actual NOC code for me. A first search on google for NOC code for cybercafe manager will pop out 0631 -Restaurant and Food service Managers. This is totally not what we are as cybercafe operators in general. so I spent quite a reasonable amount of time on the net and settled for NOC 0213 which had Computer and other related service manager as a sub in the title group. This seems more appropriate to me for my job title.

With description help from wonderful friends, the following are a basic summary of what I do:

Own and run a cybercafe
offer general computer services such as printing, scanning, typesetting
some software installation
sales of computers and its accessories etc
give basic computer lessons to customers/clients
have 2 employees
also offer computer related services to clients as per contracts to set up their cafe, computer units/rooms and logistics.


Over the years as owner and manager of the cybercafé the following are specific responsibilities and duties performed:

• Develop action plans and procedures for my team performance to meet operational goals and organizational objectives.

• Develop strategic and operational plans for managing, execution and measuring results of the cyber centre.

• Perform research on new business ventures and proactively identifies risks and opportunities for improvement of the business.

• Determine the budget and periodic expenditures of the business centre.

• Occasionally conduct meetings with clients to discuss system specs, performance, needs, costs and timelines.

• Execute contract jobs that involve procurement and supply of stationeries, computers and its peripherals

• Manage project teams of variable skill sets and size dependant on project scope.

• Hire, train and guide store employees in delivering excellent customer service.

• Assign rules and responsibilities to employees for operational effectiveness.

• Monitor and manage store staff/personnel by regularly communicating and conducting performance assessments, providing feedback, and setting challenging goals to improve operational performance.

• Ensure that the office and environment is maintained according to proper sanitation and cleaning standards thereby making it safe and inviting for customers.

• Assist customers when they have trouble or questions using computer systems and application software

• Perform software installations, system maintenance, backups and networking, troubleshooting on office and clients computers.

• Provide services such as printing, scanning, internet, online registrations, downloading and other computer related operations.

• Ensure that machineries, computers and other equipments are in good working condition.

• Keep accurate records of system performance, logs and inventories of the business centre

• Set Administrative rights on computer systems, program tickets and number of minutes or hours customers use the computer or internet on networked computers.

• Banking and maintaining accounting databases by entering data using computer application software

• Preparing lesson notes for students, training and teaching student/clients on the use of computers and its applications.

• Ensure excellent customer care.


Went to interview in Accra and was told that I choose the wrong NOC.

So I want you guys to help me find the right NOC for someone that own and operate a cybercafe. Its quite heavy on me, I must confess, but I am taking it in like a man. Just incase I can reapply please someone should help me with the right NOC for a Cybercafe Manager/Owner.

5, 6, 7 or more heads are better than 1 or 2.

This is not the testimony I was hoping to drop after a year and 6 months wait, but a lesson for one is a lesson for many. Never too late to do the right thing.

special thanks to Zutlin, Abubuyaya. You guys give me the courage to do this.

Kmgb1:


Hahaha..i hope the guy now has ppr

I am coming back to give the full gist ...

But fear who no fear AVO...

At the moment I am learning the best way to announce PPR

May it not get to 500 days after AOR before PPR

Definitely gonna end in praise

NL1960:


No. Wait till tomorrow. The bid was yesterday. It is today that the banks that were successful will be advised by CBN after which the bank will now advise you.

Thank you very much.

Please an experienced person should help me on this o. I applied for Tbill at bank rate for 182 day at Zenith on 14th and my money was debited on 15th which is two days ago, but up till now no upfront interest have been credited in my account. How much more time will it take before I get it. Beside no notification on the debit of my investment. I only saw that the cash have been taken when I checked my balance on 15th. This is my first time. Should I be alarmed?

Update: Received the upfront interest on today morning 18th.

damzy88:
Anyone with answer to this question. Thanks

People have used both and gotten PPR.

But to me, I would prefer you use employed and state the name of your PPA e.g. Sand and Garri Ltd (NYSC).

Shikena!

etrange:
Guys!!!

A quick one!

I have asked this before bur I need more opinion. Is NYSC activity type government or employed? And should the employer/organisation name be NYSC or my PPA?

When couples are enjoying themselves over the weekend, AVO and PR Applicant be like...

And there is LVO looking like hmmm...

I have replied. Check your mail.

MumtotheBeloved:


Hi,
I tried s ding a message and got a prompt that I’d sent too many anonymous messages already (confused)

May I have your email address please?

MumtotheBeloved:
Goodafternoon Fam,

Please is there anyone that wouldn’t mind swapping appointment dates at QLIFE

I have 18th February,2019 and I need any date in January (preferably the last week in January) or the first week in February.

We are a family of 3.

SOS

PM me. I have a January date. We'll try work something out.

The Wait!
9ja to Canny

So Close yet it seems so far
Nne ke’maka ije Obodo Onyibo? How far?
Mute. But with smile, I replied, “Nne, not so far”

Today, excited and chattery ‘cos’ of the awaiting prospect
Yesterday, sad and gloomy ‘cos’ of the unending aspect

How much longer, Oh my PPR?
It’s been so long since my AOR

Oxymoronic, this quest is
Melancholic, it fest such bliss

Oh! LVO, why AVO?
Oh! AVO, where are your VO’s?

Life of a PPR waiter
Please help me with a glass of water
Also I need to take home a bottle of vodka

Neither will do; the thirst of PPR is all there is
Not sweet again, Rice and beans
Can’t be as sweet as the Golden mail, please

Not fond of weekends cos VO’s shouldn’t be resting
Not until PPR is in my mail chilling

My POF is idling
Tired of being locked in

Centuries ago, IELTS and ECA battles were won
Least I forget the joy ITA brought at dawn

Join me as I celebrate a year of brave patience
Don't know how I've kept sane while waiting in essence

Through it all WE MOVE with Head’s raise
Definitely it shall end in praise.

Hmmm... This got me mouth gaping. Had to abandon the elegy I was composing for AVO.

Wow! 17 solid months.

This journey is definitely not for the faint hearted.

I thought I was the oldest grey haired AORed left.

ITABABE:
So I know I have to do this now . Many of you might not know my "moniker" but I have been in this race since 2016.All my mates here in Nairaland have all landed sef. Now I want you to look at my timeline carefully and note the year.

IELTS: January 2016-9 8.5 7.5 7
ITA: April something can't remember 2017
AOR: may 25 2017
MP: July 1 2017
IP2 : August 1 or 3 2017

Then Silence....................................................................................................................................................We entered 2018

Ordered GCMS Feb 2018. No flags notes. Mails said application was still under processing. Wrote Prime Minister sef . Same story. Then Silence again..............................,,,,,,........................................................................................................................................ I had to stop commenting on Nairaland as I neither belonged to this thread nor did I belong to the threAd of those who had already landed . I was sha in between

An update came late August for another set of Medicals as the one previously done had expired. We finally got a date in October.

Let's just say PPR landed this morning, Oct 16th 2018;[/b]10 days after the second Medicals and [b]17 months after AOR. Thank you to @glitteringstar and @chinne4Jesus for still checking on me from time to time.

Keep the support on this page ongoing . May Canada favor us all.

dumprep:
My great family. It has happened! The joy I feel right now cannot be described. My chest o!

I remember precisely on the 28th of September when;
.
.
.

Thank you All.

Make I drop this phone and hold my dear passport tight because this bus conductor is looking at me like .........

Come, I don't know you before and have never seen you before, but before God and man, I LOVE YOU already. How you wan take make man laugh and cry at the same time.
CANNY has never 'dream the dream' of the excellence you are bringing forth.
You will prosper in the land.

I rejoice with you.

Newmum0615:
For the popcorn I wasted my money to go and buy, credit my account with a quarter of your POF right now. What rubbish!

@Newmum0615 et al., no mind the rubbish jor. This is why y'all should join us in praying for release from AVO. I promise, the real story dish and not this rubbish will be better served.

In the spirit of page 419, abeg send me your account number. I promise you half of my POF not a quarter (if you must know we are a family of 10 ) that will fetch you all the popcorn you will need in 9ja, Canny and beyond.

E don happen....................

IELTS - LRWS - 9, 9, 8, 9 (First and only attempt )
ECA - WES July. 2017
ITA - Aug. 2017
AOR - Aug. 2017
ADR - Nil
PPR - Oct. 2017
CORP - Dec. 2017
Returned CORP - Jan 2018 (Will gist why... )
Case re-open - (April, 2018 )
Re-issued CORP - Oct 2018
Booked flight - Nov 2018
Landing --- ....



Long post alert ...

It all started in 2016 when I was about traveling to Afghanistan. As a WHO intern in a health related mission, I was very happy with the job. But then the mission to Afghanistan. Initially, I was very pessimistic about what to expect from the journey, but the cash benefit was too good to ignore. I had to grab the offer when it was presented by my boss.
Then I had already aced my IELTS on first setting maxing out CLB 10 on all modules. I was ecstatic. But the scores for that year (2016) was between 460 and above. I was having less.

I jettisoned the idea to immigrate to Canada and concentrated fully on the task ahead... Trip to Afghanistan.

The fear of Al-qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram etc were constantly resounding in my head. But I was determined and ready to face the challenge head on.

Two weeks to our departure date, my girlfriend/fiance called and told me she was pregnant and that the parents are already aware...

...

...

To be Continued...



It's page 419.



I just dey watch una raised eyebrows and pupil in 3D.

_{runs away}

Nellz19:
Good afternoon everyone

So I have a masters from NOUN and a BSc from University of Benin, I'm 25 years old and have 3years experience in the financial sector, Please is the NOUN certificate recognised? Can I use it for my ECA since that's where I have my highest qualification from?

Wrong thread to ask this question. But yes you can use NOUN for your ECA. For further questions, please follow the link below -

https://www.nairaland.com/3999848/canadian-express-entry-federal-skilled/1#59645806

GlitteringStar:



This is the post---https://www.nairaland.com/4212543/canadian-express-entry-federal-skilled/238#64699145

This eases things a bit. This IRCC people with brief, 'shot-put' answers like this can give one HBP

GlitteringStar:



Please, kindly post the screenshot. As far as I know, this is only applicable for Canadian Experience Class (CEC) and not for Federal Skilled Workers' program.

I saw it HERE...

I hope this their current tweet is incorrect then.

The question was something like: Can one get CRS points for work experience obtained while schooling at a post graduate (MPhil/PhD) level?

I understand that individual cases are different, but VO's are human after all. They can understand and see through a honest applicant.

I saw a reply by IRCC that work experience obtained while schooling cannot be used for CRS points.

Taking this simple answer in its entirety might misinform someone (my believe). This seems simple but a twist can be in it. Like someone here was asking if his work experience of 7 years as a lecturer won't count because he got his PhD last year. Well, my take and little understanding is you can claim CRS point for 7 years working experience without CRS point for PhD qualification OR CRS point for PhD qualification without the 7 (or 6 years) working experience. Not both (CRS point for 7 years work experience and PhD qualification since they both were co-occurring). _{I hope I am right}
There are cases were someone might be working and schooling (schooling is relative as they are full time/part time/ODL/Research based etc).
I don't think it is wrong to be a worker and trying to obtain additional qualifications. Claiming point for work experience while still schooling is a little bit tricky.
I just hope we get this straight so that people trying to increase their CRS point will be well guided in their quest to get two or more degree or Masters degree for ECA, while putting into cognizance timeline for their working experience.
[s]_{Just thinking out aloud} [/s]

Gbam!

Fabulousfinite:


My experience:

Uniben official transcript application is 5k.

I was told and shown then cost of courier to Canada, #13,150

Thanks

Just looking at these people doling out 20 something and 30 something thousand, with eyaaahhhh eyes!!!
Well I guess they are doing it by proxy and the proxy must chop..
Anyway, think I did mine for far much less in person (the courier thing), but not without the plenty Abeg and I have stomachs at home to feed yarns. If you know, you know.

purplerain:
Hi All.

Long post alert!

Its PPR guys. Yes o, after 7 months, London VO has freed me.
AOR: 4 March 2018
MEP: 13 March 2018
ADR 1: 19 Sep 2018
ADR 2: 2 Oct 2018
RPRF : 5 Oct 2018
IP2 : 9 Oct 2018
PPR: 9 Oct 2018.

...

Finally!!!!

Please help me thank God o. He has been in charge from the get go.

Did i mention that the second ADR came from Lagos office.. Yes o, Lagos immigration.

Only God knows how and when Lagos became involved in my case.

It sha ended in praise!!!.

Congratulations!

Hmmm... interesting. So IRCC Lagos Office is now working.
I pray this signal the beginning of the end for interviews in Accra for Nigerians.

stonecoldcafe:


Have you ordered your notes? Of its fine, continue to hang in there.
Congrats to ITA clenchers today

Notes ordered in May. As at then -
Medical - Passed
Criminality - Passed
Security - Not Started
Eligibility - Recommend Interview

File transferred to AVO - April, 25

Five months and counting, yet AVO no want shake body

xtosync:
After much soul searching, I decided it will do no harm to give IRCC a comprehensive details of my personal history.
Raised a CSE and included all new educational credentials and side hustles and even professional courses done in the past 15 years (dash dem jara ).
Feeling relieved but e still no calm me down sha . 11 months post AOR no be beans. No ADR, No interview date, Nothing but just pure silence and bracing up for AVO summon. Patience have toasted and won me over courtesy of CIC.
Praying for that P_reciousPR_aise. Oluwa let it rain, Pleaseee

In my research on misrepresentation, I came to understanding that the 'thing' get 3 types (I no tell you. google it...lol ). But it is funny that innocently leaving out an information can also be a misrepresentation (Although this depends on the VO assessing your file and LUCK). But it is better to be on the side of caution than to err. I came across the terms "unwillful omission" and "subjective unawareness". These can come in handy when explaining why you earlier left out information post AOR.

Cc: @Feezeel and @Bosstos - in case you decide to raise a CSE like I did.

Congratulations to all PPR clinchers and ITA grabbers. The journey must end in PRAISE!!!

After much soul searching, I decided it will do no harm to give IRCC a comprehensive details of my personal history.
Raised a CSE and included all new educational credentials and side hustles and even professional courses done in the past 15 years (dash dem jara ).
Feeling relieved but e still no calm me down sha . 11 months post AOR no be beans. No ADR, No interview date, Nothing but just pure silence and bracing up for AVO summon. Patience have toasted and won me over courtesy of CIC.
Praying for that P_reciousPR_aise. Oluwa let it rain, Pleaseee

Feezeel:
Guys, a quick one please. If one was working and schooling at the same time and does not include the educational qualification post ITA, does that perceive any form of misrepresentation? Note, no point was claimed for the educational qualification and it wasn't included under personal history.

I am interested in this one. Anybody (experienced folks) with answers or suggestions, please.

Congratulations...

May Cannyland favour you.

uhuaaaaaa!!!!

Estac:
My Darling Nairalanders,

It is with great pleasure I dance in to announce the arrival of my PPR!

Here is the short version.

Timeline:
AOR - July 14
MEP/IP1 – August 1
IP2 - September 21
PPR – September 25 (received 1.35am this morning).

I wish everyone a successful outcome on this journey. God bless us all

I believe this is a good read for information sake and to calm some fraying nerves (I hope ).


As I have said in other answers, I am a retired visa officer (Canadian overseas immigration officer). I worked for CIC and its predecessors for many years.

Concerning “slow”, are you speaking of applications for visitor visas or applications to immigrate to Canada? Processing procedures and processing times are very different depending on what sort of visa you are applying for.

Visa applicants so often seem to imagine that CIC and its programming must be the most important activity conducted by the Government of Canada. It’s not even close. Historically immigration and visas have been much lower priorities than other Government of Canada activity, such as Employment Insurance, National Defence, international trade relations, income tax collection, implementing bilingualism legislation, regulating and ensuring the safety of the transportation industry, the pharmaceutical industry etc. After all, immigration applicants don’t vote.
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There is something else that frankly I find a little disturbing in some of the questions I see that relate to immigration to Canada. Many of those comments come from the developing world.

Many of those who ask questions about visas do not seem aware that Canada is essentially land stolen by colonizing European countries. They invaded North America and attacked and brutalized and in some cases attempted to exterminate the indigenous peoples, all of them people of colour. Some of those countries were the same ones that attacked most of what is now the developing world and subjugated, exploited and humiliated the peoples who were there.

Please remember that Canada was established on a terrible historic justice. There is nothing that immigrants can do about it other than be aware and be understanding and supportive of Canadian aboriginal people who are trying to recover what is left of their heritage and their resources. If you do not you are essentially accepting the rationalizations of European colonizers who asserted it was their destiny to rule the developing world.

Martin
Culled from here

Guitarlife:
ottawa dey vex ganni, infact dem tro the thing e land for my side .
i see ready for visa .

Any way Aor 5th april, ip1 13th april, ip2 8th august, ghost 5th sept, ppr sept 7.

Meanwhile, any single sisters in the building ? I hear say the cold dey very brutal and unforgiving to a single guy over there .lol

Wow! Congratulations!