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BoleAndFish:
Seems episode 2 really got leaked.
Got this from twitter Arya kissing a man.

It's Gendry.

Pls link oooooooo.

Fadedvoices2:
Confirmed ; Jon snow will die ... must be painful to hear but it is what it is .

Rhaegar will die in episode 4 .


Tormund to die in episode 3

But Rhaegar is already dead.

meforkene:
Gbola5 asked for the treasonable offence Sansa committed that the Northerners overlooked. That's what i wrote there.
Don't care what she should have done to avert the situations.

But the other ladies you mentioned all came out of the forced marriages obviously grown and different..each with a forward plan.

How is being forced into marriage treason??
Under whose law is that?
The so called Northernmen who sat at that table to declare Jon king, where were they when those flaying monsters took over Winterfell. . .why didn't they revolt against the Boltons?

How did Cersei's marriage to Robert make her grow??
How did Magery's marriage to Joffery and Tommen make her grow??
Let's make the comparisms.

@bolded
That explains alot.

The reason most of you hate Sansa is cause she doesn't wield a sword like Arya or Brienne. Or a seductress like Magery and Cersei.
Or give off that "strong female vibe" by exhibiting attributes that is stereotypically attributed to men like fighting, power-hungry plays, scheming etc.

meforkene:
1. Lannisters kill her father, brother, mother; She almost immediately married Joffrey...ended marrying Tyrion.

2. Bolton's conquered her home: She married Ramsay almost immediately...in that same home. (Please remind me how long it took LF to convince her).

And they still let her sit at the table in the great hall of Winterfell without addressing the issues.

She didn't even know she was to marry Tyrion.
Hell! Nobody knew.
Lannisters tricked her to thinking she was to marry Ser Loras when it was Tyrion waiting for her at the altar.
What was she supposed to do then?


She was reluctant to marry Ramsay. Littlefinger convinced her to do as that was the only way to infiltrate her own home and take it back.

Is Sansa the first woman to be sold into marriage?
Was Dany not sold?
Was Cersei not sold?
Was Magery not sold. . .multiple times?

LeSulk:
Especially Tyrion. That is near blasphemy. They should tone down this her 'smart woman narrative' a bit. Nice character development but many have been owning that game before she was born.


As for Dany, she realises she's aware of her impulsive tendencies and limitations so she surrounds herself with brilliant people. The likes of Tyrion, Varys, Ser Barristan, Friendzone and even Missandei. There is wisdom in realizing that you are limited and doing something about it.

Why didn't Tyrion see through Cersei's obvious lies?
That the Lannister forces are marching north?

9jaBloke:
You missed the joke

K

Gbola5:
Drogon has already bonded with Dany. No dragon can have two riders at once.

With two dragons left and two obvious riders, what will become of the prophesy "A dragon must have 3 heads?"

9jaBloke:
He did all their bidding I suppose. Podrick Payne is a squire and squires are trained to carry out orders. So I guess they just told him where and where to go and exactly when to come.

But if they had to tell him then they wouldn't have returned his coins.
He probably didn't need to be told what to do and where to go.
The mystery remains, how did he know what to do, where to go and when to come?

Sasquatch:
Believe me, i would love to agree but seeing how Rhaegal is a green dragon and the first dance was between the blacks vs the greens but why would GRRM make Rhaegal green? who knows Daenaerys may turn into a wight in the books becoming the nights queen and Jon will have no choice but to kill her, it may not happen on the show but the books may end that way

He's Green to symbolize the green fields of the Trident where his namesake Rhaegar, was murdered.

Stegomiah:
And so?
Should we now name you the King of the seven kingdoms?
Sit down one side abegi

Hermionegranger:
[/b] They've never flirted..sure they've gotten into awkward situations especially that time Gendry called her pretty in one Lady's castle at the Riverlands when she was forced to dress like a girl but flirting is far from any of their interactions. She basically thinks he's stupid, stubborn and annoying but a loyal friend

Perharps we all have different interpretations of what classifies as flirting

iamJ:
people need to stop using sentiments to argue

Arya was practically a child when she said all these. It's beeen 8 years, she might have changed her mind.

Sansa was the one that wanted marriage and castles and babies. . .I feel she's over that now so might remain unmarried.

Arya wanted to travel the world and didn't want to be tied down. . . .well she might end up with a husband and babies. Aka Gendry.

Besides, in the books, they flirt with each other alot.

Virus99:
Next Episode is called "Battle of Winterfell"...

The White Walkers would arrive sooner than anticipated. The fighting would start.

Sir Jora Mommont died in the battle.
Tormund also died.
Edd died as well.
Lady Brien died too. And her squire Podrick.

Lots of the great lords died in episode 2.

He should tell us what he did to those whòres first before dying.

JhyMedex:
Sam is such a coward tho...A braver man wld av done Sth oda dan go cry to Jon

How is he a coward?
A braver man would have done what exactly?
Challenge Dany to a fight? Plot to kill Dany? What exactly was Samwell supposed to do?

The minute you guys find a character that's emotional and doesn't wield a sword, you start name calling.
First Sansa. Now Samwell.
Just wow.

meforkene:
She never spoke in the meetings. She only complained about not listened to...when she didn't speak.
In fact it's even treason to not inform Jon of her plans of bringing the Vale Knights.
If she had told Jon, they would have delayed that morning before the battle.

Truth is the North really love and respect that name Stark. Sansa shouldn't be let alive the moment she returned to Winterfell. Why? Who the hell marries the immediate enemies of thier families? Married Lannisters just after they killed her father and brother. Married Ramsay just after he took over thier home..in the same home. Tufiakwa.

Your kind of defenders have now affected the directors to try to force us to believe she's so smart and that Jon bent the knee for love. Which are all lies. They shouldn't just kill that show cos of Sansa o.

She didn't willingly marry either of them.
She was sold into marriage.
She's not the first woman to be sold into marriage in Westeros especially against her will.
Cersei and Dany were also sold into marriage so what's your point again?

Cybertext:
While we are all arguing about sansa smartness...

Can someone explain the secret weapon Gendry is helping Arya to make?

And low key Arya is flirting with Gendry.

Lowkey ke?
Haven't you heard of Gendrya shippers?

Arya and Gendry are going to unite houses Stark and Baraethon as their fathers wanted.

JhyMedex:
lol u kidding ryt..?..

U hear sum1 jst murdered ur family in prolly d most gruesome manner n u'll react by getting chummy wit them?..

Family is family...regardless of hw many squabbles u may av had..

He's reaction is totally spot on!..

besides y does every1 seem to tink Jon being a targaryean is a threat to dany..The targaryeans wedded brothers n sisters for many generations...He will b king she will b queen ..Thry love each oda deeply .they will therefore find a way to rule 2geda.

Come whr r the veterans of this thread. ..BraniacX..
Thekingishere..
Seun...
Iamlegend. ..
Guys show face!

Exactly!!! Samwell's reaction was spot on.
He made a light joke when Dany mentioned murdering his father. Cause his father was basically a dìck.
But his brother? He was good. His only mistake was standing by his father.
Samwell reacted perfectly.

HanksAnuku:
I call BS.

She had information that an army was coming. She could have told Jon about it, but she didn't

From a tactical perspective there was zero advantage to withholding that information.

She had zero idea how that battle would hsve played out Infact, if the Lord Chief Gbolo of the nights watch, had actually moved correctly instead of acting emotionally, the knights of the vale might have arrived to see Jon Snow already victorious

So please, stop it.

False
She knew exactly how the battle would play out.
She specifically told Jon to forget Rickon. That Ramsey was only using him as bait but Jon didn't listen.
She told him to wait for more men and call for help from the Vale. He didn't listen.

Rickon died. As she predicted.
And Jon needed more men. As she predicted.

Again to quote Sansa, "I know Ramsey. I know how he thinks."
I call BS

[quote author=HanksAnuku post=77559465][/quote]If it was so obvious why didn't someone else point it out.

Sansa was basically the stark everyone used as a pawn.
Cersei. Littlefinger. Ramsay.

2 out of 3 are dead and she's indirectly responsible for their deaths.
They were considered wise and ruthless but she's alive. And no one can use her anymore.

To quote Sansa, "Yes, I'm a not a fast learner but I learn."

HanksAnuku:
I'm sorry....what?

Sansa is as dumb as two bricks. I don't even get the 'growth' angle you guys are coming from.

Growth how? Where? Because she now sounds self-assured? She's the lady of winterfell...at home in winterfell.

Every good thing that has happened to sansa in her entire life has been because someone either took pity on her, or someone wanted to use her.

The only 'Thing' she has done was send someone else's army to the battle of bastards, and even that was only because littlefinger was trying to use her.

Where's the evidence of her wisdom cos I haven't seen it at all.

She sounds self assured. Yes.
That's growth 100%

She's dumb she was the only one smart enough to question that Jon's new found loyalty to Dany could be cause he's whipped.

She rightly pointed out that there wasn't enough food to feed the "greatest army the world has ever seen and 2 grown dragons" in winter when farming was basically impossible.

She was the only one to see beyond Cersei's promise to send Lannister forces to the North and call out her lie. Something the Oh-so-wise Tyrion couldn't see.

And that's just 1 episode.

Just because she doesn't wield a sword to fight, most people brush her aside as dumb.

HanksAnuku:
At all

Reek and Sansa's 'rebrand' dey piss me off gaan.

When Arya said Sansa was the 'smartest person' she knows, I wasn't sure if that was the writers trying to tell us that Sansa has now ascended to the 'Scheming Nobility' user group with the likes of Tyrion and Varys...

Or maybe it just shows how dumb Arya must be, if a gbolo like Sansa is the smartest person she knows

So after watching Sansa from season 1 till now you still maintain she's not one of the smartest people on the show

kay9:
Yes, he did. If Dany had been a man, even after that daring dragon rescue, Jon Snow would NEVER have bent the knee. The poor Targaryen get finally fell in love and gave away his crown.

I don't blame him though, I'd probably do the same.

Lmao
Jon specifically said she has three dragons.
Unsullied.
Dothraki.
All of which are needed if they stood a chance against NK.
If Dany was an elephant or a goat, he'd still bend the knee cause he doesn't want to be king.

iamJ:
in the books, they talked about elephants and the golden company


Some of us wanted the elephants to be honest, so maybe she was helping us wail


Euron had a point, he has done enough to earn her, she had to give him something to keep him loyal, she doesn't have much support


Bron she sent him cause she felt that Jaime betrayed her, she expects the whites to be defeated and Dany to loose her dragons with many fighters

She also expects her brothers to die fighting at the north but if they survive, she ask Bron to kill them


Lets be honest, Jamie was done with her, he went against her


Her actions makes sense, the wine is obvious, she lost the baby, they will explain it later

Bron once agreed to fight for Tyrion when during his trial by combat in the Vale when Lyssa and Robin tried him.
He won and saved Tyrion.

Bron and Jaime are basically best friends. Bron saved his life when Drogon would have roasted his àss when Lannister forces met with the Dothraki in open field.

Why will she think Bron will be loyal to her?
They've never even been in the same room together so why will Bron kill her brothers for her?

losprince:
Cercie you dumb b!tch...

Sending both your brothers best friend to assassinate them all in the name of poetic Justice

Like it was soo out of character.
She felt out of character throughoht the episode.

First she wouldn't shut up about elephants when it's clear that their weights would sink the Iron fleet to the bottom of the sea.
Then she gave that speech to Euron about how if he wants a whòre, buy one and if he wants a Queen, earn her. . . .then proceeded to fùck him like a whòre.

She keeps drinking wine while pregnant.

And she basically sent Bron to team up with Jaime and Tyrion.
All the lessons she took from Tywin on the importance of placing family name above personally glory are basically down the drain.

Jesuspikin8:
I've always had blue eyes!

That was just epic

Dolorous Edd: “Stay back, he’s got blue eyes!”
Tormund: “I’ve always had blue eyes!”

Tormund needs to get with Brienne and pass on those lovely blue eyes to giant red haired babies.

GMan650:
How you react when you see an old friend

But for real though, who is wheeling Bran around and just leaving him in random places to interact and weird people out??

fk001:
That Grey joy sister na baddas, the guy come saved her but she give am blow why na

Cause he took too long to save her

Gbola5:
I think you should check out Right of Conquest and Robert Baratheon's Jus Ad Bellum, that would explain things.

So he took the throne haven conquered an insane tyrant.
But why was he still weary of Dany in the far east.
Because he knew;"how you get it, is how you lose it"

Gbola5:
For 150 years they had 'Dragunths'. And by the time the last dragons died, no one bothered. The Targaryens had already become a part of the Seven Kingdoms, marrying other houses.

Welcome back!

iamJ:
there was that theory but my sources say it's Arya and it's wine poison

She wears jaimes face and give her the drink like the way she did Walter frey

That means Jaime will have to be killed.
I don't see that happening.

iamJ:
ok officially it has been announced by game of thrones, show runners that Dany is pregnant




The witch told Dany something, when her husband died, do you remember?


Game of thrones writer, recommended a few episodes to watch B4 watching season 8, plenty clues there

Jon snow is the prince that was promised, he is the one that will kill the night King, that's why the lord of light brought him back to life


That's all I can share

In addendum, Jaime will finally kill Cersei.

CecyAdrian:
Is the Night King even aware of a throne to claim? Lol, that guy is coming to kill everyone and that throne sef

Exactly!
Man's about to reconqer Westeros and bring winter to Essos and beyond.
He doesn't care about some mortal throne.