₦airaland Forum

RSA:
Old news,come up with something original.

I expected more than this as a rebuttal. I therefore concede in this regard that silence is admittance

Thirded!

Ndi committee biko onye anakwana aka azu

Onye nwere anything for or against any committee member, ya gwa anyi ooo

Hmmmm, Obinali ga n'ihu

Dika otu n'ime ndi elder enwere na threadia, agaghi m ekwe ka ama nwata (osisi) ikpe ma okwughi onu ya.

E set la a four man committee of ndi nze ga enyocha nke oma ebe mmriri siri ba n'opi ugboguru. Ha were nani otu ubochi iji gwa anyi ihe ha choputara.

Osisi i ga abia kowa n'ihu ha ihe udara na agadi nwanyi gara

Committee:

1. Toshmann

2. Agaba

3. Romeo

4. Ikomi

Hmmmm, Ify nno biko, mana nke a ilu gi daga amu amu, udo adikwa?

Ihe m na ekwu bu na apikola m threadia na pocket m, oso Seun ya gbue ya, ode eshi

ChinenyeN, okwa ozi m ziri awuru oku ruru eluigwe aka?

Echelon nke gi n'abia very soon

Ify ekwesighi idi ime obula, o nani otu ugboro ka omere ya bu ihe.

Onyinye biko gwam the methodology i choro iji learn di Igbo, m ga eme ka odiri gi nso

Agaba iwe na ewe gi oo

Send ere m email, ka m forward the installation file for you

A download m otu backup software na ikuku, obu ya mere ihe nile for me. Ha n'ile di na my laptop ugbua

Umu Igbo, onye nweanyi gba unu ume.

Ihe Seun mere bu nso ala! tufiakwa!!

Excuse onyere di belated. Ihe anyi choro bu public apology.

Echelon, Osisi na Ifyalways oburu na unu na ege nti, a back ala m our proverb thread up, maka adighi ama ama O gwara O. N'ihi na ihe Seun na eme edoghizi m anya. O na akpa agwa ka onye na anu awuru ike

Fair write up, with loads of assumptions and no concrete facts

Eche, ihe anacho na uko elu dizi na uko ala, trust me

MrCrackles:
You guys are taking NL way too seriously!

Downloading threads? Madness!

This thread is a resource for a lot of research fellows, no other place on the internet can you get the quality and quantity of stuff here. It is not an ordinary thread.

Odinmma, I am searching for something m ga ewetu ta from the internet.

Nwa amadi a adighikwa m ka onye na akpo egwu Osadebe

Ok, If you can that will be nice, we can also ask Ify to help.

Amaghikwa m na nwa amadi dere gi edemede na ata aki anyi na eti

Eche, no I don't have it. What can we do asap?

The dead can't defend themselves, so it is furtile to accuse or talk bad about them.

@Theblessed

Don't get it twisted, you didn't understand the culture at all. The culture is meant to protect women. We all know that men pregnant young girl and deny being responsible, only to surface years later and want to claim the child leaving the woman who have laboured to bring up the child with nothing. In my part of Igboland, if the man surfaces later and the woman is still unmarried, he could still marry her and then claim his child.

cvibe Ndewo kwa!

Obu aha otutu gi bu iha?

ifyalways:

Youngies iwe na ewem.Isi azu seun kpochiri threadi ndi igbo.
@topic,tupu nwa isi agwa gi na o ga atu gi iche,o jirigo ukwu zota okwute.
b4 a blind man threatens to stone you,hes sure to have stepped on a stone

Ify iwe gi adinna oku

Ihe ne ewe ka eme ya, ka eme ya di
There is a solution for something that defiles solution

We can 'terrorize' him with emails emass

debosky:
This is factually incorrect. While the president nominates the executive head, he must be approved by the Senate. There are numerous cases of appointees being rejected by the Senate, so this is not entirely up the presidential whim, like a Special Adviser would be. I accept that there are differences between Lagos and Abuja, but they served the same essential purpose - the capital of the Federation. Even though Abuja was 'carved' out, the indigenes and original inhabitants of the area did not cease to exist. As a result there will always be some indigenous ethnic character in Abuja.

Again you missed the point by a mile. I repeat the appointment of the minister of FCT is on the whims of the president. You fail to realise how things work here. Yes I agree the Senate approves the President's nominations, but remember that the President does not attach portfolios to the nomination list before sending it to the Senate. So tell me how the Senate will know who will eventually get to head the FCT? The President appoints whomever he chooses from the list of approved nominees to head the FCT administration and in 98% of the cases, northerners.

Are you saying the event didn't hold in Abuja because the head was of Northern extraction? The same El-Rufai who was a Northerner had made preparations to host the event. Only due to the MURDER of innocent civilians during protests did the event get moved - in the interest of SECURITY. Also note that the killings were not even in Abuja, so regarding this matter, the ethnicity/origin of the FCT head was NOT a factor.

Please sir, get your fact right. Miss World is purely a private affair. El-Rufai has nothing to do with it. He didn't make any preparations, infact he was glad to see that it failed. The only person in "government" that was closely associated with the Miss World event was Stella Obasanjo. If Rufai has any preparation to make it was simple on matters of security as an agent of the State, and he failed woeful to do that even though there were intelligence reports of plans to disturb the peace of the city.

This is the same point I was making. There must be some form of political agreement for this to continue in this fashion. The onus is on representatives from other areas of Nigeria (in the Senate and House of Reps) to legislate this as a requirement, OR to use their influence to get it rotated around the country.

I wish it is as easy as you make it to sound

This seems to be the 'hidden message' behind the original article - a protest against seeming marginalization of the Igbos. That is a separate discussion on its own, that example simply showed that a ministerial role (which is what the FCT position essentially is) can be 'reserved' or 'held' by a particular zone/region by political agreement.

I fail to see how this message is hidden in the article.

I disagree with this. I think there are more crucial issues at stake than simply heading the FCT ministry as a show of 'unity'. There are much better ways to do that. States are given equal representation in the selection of ministers, with at least 2 appointees from each state getting selected. The FCT minister's role falls under this and so cannot be treated in isolation.

Debo there are key ministries as well as ministers. That's why not all the ministers can walk in and see the president without a prior appointment expect the key ministers. States are not given equal representation, some States have majority of their nominees as "junior" ministers while others have thiers as always "senior" ministers. 

Nigerians must get beyond the thinking that holding a particular position equates with being 'insiders'.

Maybe in the near future, yes. But right now the position is what equate to your class (insider or outsider)

debosky:
Abuja is an ethnic city to some extent  due to it's geographical location, it is bound to have more people of Northern extraction living there. Not a big deal if you ask me.

When Lagos was Nigeria's capital, was there a rotation of the position of state governor amongst the different zones? NO. In fact, apart from the exception of Marwa, I can't think of any other non-Yoruba person to have ruled Lagos.

There is a difference between Lagos and Abuja. While Lagos is a full fledged State with an elected governor, Abuja was carved out solely to serve as the Federal Capital Territory with only an appointed executive head. The appointment is on the whims of the president.

The crucial question is this: does the list of FCT heads stand as the measure of whether Abuja is our capital or not? Is there anything enshrined in the constitution stating that the role of FCT minister must be rotated around the geo-political zones?

The head of administration in FCT goes a long way in fashioning the shape and life style in the territory. If for instance the head of FCT during the time of Miss World saga was Donald Duke, do you think the event will not hold?

There is also nothing in our constitution that says that the presidency should be rotated too

Ministry of Information has been filled by the Igbos more or less exclusively for a number of years - does that mean not all tribes can be information ministers? It is simply a case of 'zoning' or 'allocation'

Ofonagoro, Maduekwe, John Odey and now Dora - all Igbo

Of all the "juicy" ministries, it is only information that is exclusively Igbos, I don die   What happened to Works, Defence, Aviation, Interior, Agriculture, Water Resources, Power, Housing etc?

Same can be said for some other ministries e.g aviation - seems to be Yoruba dominated.

a Southerner not holding the position of minister of the  FCT is not an indication that Abuja isn't the capital.

A southerrner not ever holding the position of FCT minister shows the skewed and biased nature of the appointments, which goes to show some Nigerians are considered as outsiders

@londoner

I think you really need to think outside the box. The summary of the points that Kobojunkie and Sky Blue were making I guess is:

Is Yaradua entitled to a leave? = YES, (if the constitution says so)

Does Yaradua DESERVE to go on leave now?= NO (cause he has done little or no work to justify his leave)

Footie is a team sport, only Rabiu cannot control the game

Hope you don't expect Seun to answer this question. Which local stadium? The one that has been over grown with wild weeds and conquered by an army of occupying reptiles

The Flying Eagles should just avoid wearing that thier white jerseys today, it kinda bring them bad luck especially against Cameroon.

Echelon daalu so

I have heard of that Onwu Report but have not been lucky to lay my hands on it. I guess it will make a good read. Ify and Igwe_USA, it won't be a bad idea if you try and read it too

Ogazi amaka, ma ejighi ya ago mmuo
The gunea fowl is pretty though, but it is not used for rituals and sacrifices

Igwe_USA biko gwam part ndi anambra na akpo land "ala" or up "elu"? Biko be specific ka anyi mara ka anyi so akwo onye ukwu wara

Tosh nwa mama, ole maka nwayi gi na ndi be gi? Otekwala aka oo!

I won't forget in a hurry these names:

Longinus
Samanja
Bibiana
Ihechifotara
Akpos
Zanga
Odinkemere?
onyebueke
Cletus
Mathias (Mathayas)
Atutupoyoyo