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chris365: you must think am a low life like you. ode..

so now you want to talk of political implications ehn? after bragging and showing fake world record of your unknown soldier.

bunch of liars

Sorry but this info came from the DRC, SANDF did not say anything expect ask the UN.

chris365: my broda , my chik just dey delay me with make up for hia.. women ehn

meanwhile i just discovered these south african liars. their chief of operations said the sniping of M23 commanders by SANDF is a LIE . enjoy

Mgwebi denied allegations that South African snipers killed six senior rebel officers. "If there are snipers on the ground, they are not ours, only the UN can confirm who they are," said Mgwebi. But, he confirmed that if the United Nations is willing to re-imburse South Africa, the SANDF is ready to deploy more resources to ensure a speedy resolution to the attack.
http://mg.co.za/article/2013-08-30-sandf-on-drc-deployment-no-repeat-of-car-massacre

“South Africa was not specifically requested to supply snipers as part of its troop contribution but the 850-strong battalion moved to the DRC to be part of the FIB does have certain capabilities,” Lieutenant General Derrick Mgwebi told a briefing in Thaba Tshwane this morning when asked about the sniper’s kill.

such has snipers.

chris365: meaning if it truly happened, they are not south africans. only the UN knows who they are. learn to read boy.

if they were south africans, your chief of operations would know. trust me.

No it is UN mission and OPSEC means they must choose what to say and when, the info was actually leaked and it should not have been made public

NaijaPikinGidi: Straightforward and clear comment that highlights exact view from SANDF spokesman in video! Unconfirmed!! Yet crazyBoy cannot have enough of fighting and insulting to get my priceless attention. He's advised her and not to rather direct the bile to his fellow SA who called crazyBoy's facts as unconfirmed. He's likely the jealous and nasty one! Peace to a troubled soul!

i believe the words used was “South Africa was not specifically requested to supply snipers as part of its troop contribution but the 850-strong battalion moved to the DRC to be part of the FIB does have certain capabilities,” your standard SANDF battlion has a secstion of snippers and this is a compost air assault parabat battalion with recce's along with them

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6553:fact-file-the-sa-infantry-corps-&catid=79:fact-files&Itemid=159

They then said the media should ask the UN since it was a UN mission.

agaugust: in 1953 korea war 80% of south african air force combat aircraft were shot down by a weak and poorly fed north korean air force and wasted almost all america's mustang fighter aircraft given to you.

"While equipped with Mustangs, the squadron flew 10373 sorties and out of a total 95 Mustangs acquired, no fewer than 74 were lost due to enemy action and accidents. Twelve pilots were killed in action, 30 missing and four wounded."

http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/history/saaf/korea


are you still interested in air to air kills war history ? lets talk about how 80% of south african air force was shot down by an half empty stomach north korean air force


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please mention our presidential unit citations or our the Air wing we where under sings the opening of the SA anthem

or how we did the most dangerous attacks. Please go in to detail.

chris365: guy stop denying na. haba. there reason for coming to your aid clearly states:

to survey the situation, train the anti-poaching corps, exchange tactical information and go on the front lines to put a stop to the ruthless and illicit wildlife poaching activities of international crime syndicates.
http://www.philstar.com/breaking-news/2013/06/06/950849/military-experts-fight-brutal-poachers-battleground-rhino-wars

and the report says their presence have shown more result than your thousands of soldiers have in years. that only shows a weak and tactless military.

Again doing reshearch will help you a lot. They where on a private game farm. Aka there where no solders or any goverment rangers. You really are a fool.

chris365: source please.. you don't wanna bore us with your imaginary simulations would you?

M23s twitter account.

chris365: why woild they need foreign help if all was going well? duhh!!

If you watch the interview of the group you would know. They where brought in to creat a docmantry mini serries to rais internasnal awarnac.

chris365: so in other words. both your military and political leaders are confused. and you want us to believe the CAR incident..SMH

The info on CAR did not come from the higher ups.

chris365: just as i thought.. SANDF scared to fight real battles. and these clowns here want to claim involvement in a fight their troops are hiding their guns from .SMH

SA troops in DRC won’t fight M23: Presidency
The Presidency says South African soldiers deployed in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) will not be engaged in armed combat with that country's M23 rebel group.
http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/bb81bc8040d7218bb67cb7434f2981a1/SA-troops-in-DRC-won't-fight-M23:-Presidency

i always knew the deployment was to save face from the embarrassment they face in the hands of seleka. SANDF are toy soldiers and they keep proving it

lost to seleka, losing to poachers, hiding their guns from M23 while their mandate is to fight and dislodge rebels.. real toy soldiers

this is the new SANDF

While the higher ups where claiming that sandf was not envolved in any combat it has come out that the SANDF shelled M23 postions with mortas and took out a MG post in 2 seprate occasions. What is being said is not what is being done.

chris365: guy, of all african countries burden by poaching, SA is the only one that has deployed more than 2000 troops to join more than a thousand park rangers, including foreign special forces just to combat poaching. and it has only gotten worst.

you are not doing good at aaaalllllll

South Africa Regroups in War on Rhino Horn Poachers

The audience sat in stunned silence on hearing the announcement that, with five months to go, South Africa’s rhino-poaching toll for 2013 had already shot well past the 500 mark.

With 536 rhinos killed in the country by the end of July, it seemed highly likely that conservationists’ worst fear would come true. This is that the death toll for the year will surpass 2012′s shocking 668 and head for 1,000.

If kenya deployed that many people they could in affect have a secstion deployed 24/7 by every rhino.

And those forghin speciol forces where hired by a privat game park not SA. And it is not 2000 solders unless you saying the privat securty companys that have anti poaching units are solders.

chris365: guy, of all african countries burden by poaching, SA is the only one that has deployed more than 2000 troops to join more than a thousand park rangers, including foreign special forces just to combat poaching. and it has only gotten worst.

you are not doing good at aaaalllllll

South Africa Regroups in War on Rhino Horn Poachers

The audience sat in stunned silence on hearing the announcement that, with five months to go, South Africa’s rhino-poaching toll for 2013 had already shot well past the 500 mark.

With 536 rhinos killed in the country by the end of July, it seemed highly likely that conservationists’ worst fear would come true. This is that the death toll for the year will surpass 2012′s shocking 668 and head for 1,000.

If kenya deployed that many people they could in affect have a secstion deployed 24/7 by every rhino.

And those forghin speciol forces where hired by a privat game park not SA. And it is not 2000 solders unless you saying the privat securty companys that have anti poaching units are solders.

chris365: typical south african.. your behind gets exposed you start to compare Nigeria to SA

Nigeria was never a place for rhinos. so whats your point exactly

You saying that there where never rhino in nigeria?

chris365: Errr.. wrong boss. Kenya is doing better than you. find out yourself

If kenya looses 600 rhionos they looses there entire rhino populastion

http://www.kws.org/research/projects/rhino_programme.html

75% of all rhinos are in sa.

http://m.wwf.org.za/act_now/rhino_conservation/index.cfm

So yes we doing better that any other country.

chris365: slow down little boy.. am happy to be a source of enlightenment to you. since you wanna talk about success of rhino poaching, let me help you with a recent one

Rhino poaching in SA worse than ever, in spite of new technology

SA's tally of poached rhino looks set to exceed last year's 668 killed, with officials saying 367 have been killed in the first five months of 2013
http://mg.co.za/article/2013-05-30-rhino-poaching-worst-than-ever-in-spite-of-new-technology

this has clearly become an education rather than an argument. boooring *yawns*

that is 367 more rhinos than nigeria has

agaugust: .







https://www.projectrhinokzn.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/SA-poaching-stats-2000-2011.jpg

With most of the rest of the worlds rhinos wiped out SA is now under siege from poachers. The fact is while you may say look at how they getting killed in SA the really sad fact is that it the only place in the world where rhinos can be found in such numbers. Nigeria lost the war on poachers years ago we the last bastion the only one that has held out.

agaugust:
Yes nigeria has war experience with howitzers/artillery guns, frigates warships NNS Nigeria/Obuma, Mig 17 jet Vs B26 Invaders, T-55 battle tanks Vs light tanks, many APC's, Bofors anti-aircraft guns against enemy air force attacks and 500,000 soldiers in combat on both sides in one single war, the biggest war ever on African soil till today.

Nigeria Vs Biafra war was a large scale-full scale war according to international standards and reports. educate yourself today :

III. Conflict Aspects

9. Type of Conflict

CIVIL WAR

10. Level of Conflict

HIGH: full-scale civil war

http://www1.american.edu/ted/ice/biafra.htm

go kiss your newly de-horned Rhinos in Kruger Park


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We not talking about your civil war. You lost that war by the way.

agaugust: you answer me first, i asked you first.

Some reshearch would show he was alone

agaugust: your own source says ;

"Zulu allegedly shot himself on Saturday while on duty in the Kruger National Park working as part"

do you know the meaning of that bold word "allegedly" ? it means NO PROOF !

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It could all so be genrial murder made to look like a sucide, or acdential shooting. Untile the invisgastion is complet every is algead. And he was in his ten far from any poachers or any body.

agaugust: you were standing beside him when he shot himself ?

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were you standing next to the poacher?

agaugust: post the soldier's suicide notes....fool

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Even if i had that i would not post it. And not all suicides have notes.

chris365: for almost four years now SANDF can't stop ordinary poachers . no wonder they fled from CAR knowing they have no capability to fight real warriors

Pleas what is a ordinary poacher? And if they make it across the border we can not do any thing. and kruger national park is the size of israel, there is i believe 3 companies there and a over hundred poachers have been killed or captured.

And nigeria should not speak about poachers, All you animals were poached years ago. over 70% of rhinos are in SA.

agaugust: i dont feel embarrassed, i quoted a source. i am not the journalist, so why should i be embarrassed by an incident that happened in south africa where i dont live ? none of my business, i simply dont care.

no source says for sure he committed suicide, south african government says shooting incident, NOT accident or suicide. fool, you should be the one embarrased below :


Johannesburg - A soldier has been killed during an operation in the Kruger National Park, the SA National Defence Force (SANDF) said on Monday.

Private Thabiso Zulu, of Regiment East Rand, was deployed on Sunday with 2 SA Infantry Battalion.

"[He] was allegedly involved in a fatal shooting incident while on duty during Operation Corona in the Kruger National Park," said SANDF spokesperson Xolani Mabanga.

A board of inquiry had been convened to investigate the shooting incident, he said.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Soldier-killed-in-Kruger-National-Park-20130819

Rhino poachers are tormenting south african military in their own homeland soil

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no where did it say they where shot at and my post shows it was a suicide not hostile action. do your home work

chris365: lets be real here. SANDF is known for exaggerating success and downplaying failure. soldier commits suicide during military operation? even a lemming that's as dumb as CrabB will not believe that crap.

Solders commit suicide, typically with their rifle. He shot himself in his base camp.

And when have they down played somthing.

agaugust: please could you be honest enough to stop this nonsense you post ? A-Darta missile is not in service with south african military until 2014. the source was very clear, and a respected source at that. you make me feel like stopping making replies to your post for lack of honesty. its getting too much man !

DENEL wepons dont belong to south african military until your military buys and pays for them. DENEL is a profit making company different form South African air force, or DENEL MD/CEO is the air marshal of south african air force ? fool

standard speed for both Type 056 and valour is 28 knots, simple google information. any ship can decide to break its standard speed limit and ruin its engine with excess wear and tear, expensive diesel engines you fool !

standard Type 056 warship is 89m length, nigerian version is already extended to 95m length. reason i tell you the nigerian version is being groomed to be superior, these are insider naval information they wont publish in newspapers, let everybody wait for the ship to arrive....many technical surprises....including plans for extra french navtronics, and an anti-submarine helicopter chinese or french...not Augusta utility.

standard Type 056 warship is 1440 tons full load, nigerian version is 1,800 tons full load. what is the extra load capacity for ? fishes and crayfishes ? fool

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Yes it not in serves but it is certified on our aircraft and our pilots have trained with it and there are a small number of A darters owned by denel. If need be we could arm a gripen with one right now.

Denel is a state company owned by the government, it receives money for RnD from the Defence budget. If the air force wants a denel product they will give it no question asked.

The valour has achieved that speed on more than one occasion.

95m is not that big, somthing is gotta give, hell making it 10m longer alone will change the ship. it will be heavier thus slower and be less agile than it 85m counterpart. Unless you telling me nigeria has got better engines in them than china. 1800 tones makes it around 2000 tones lighter than a valour yet you want to say it has the same capabilities

agaugust: the 15 soweto SANDF who died in Seleka's combat also committed suicide ? abi ? b.loody l.iar

if you did more than 3 seconds of research i would not have embarrassed you.

agaugust: what else do you expect to hear from a south african navy cook/chef disguised as a combat soldier ? even a Rhino poacher will k.ill this @andrewza man in combat

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you are a fool who knows nothing, you think chefs are fools who only cook. By the way i am not a chef.

agaugust: i dont care about correcting a jounalist's phot image....as long as his story is true and yes its true story confirmed by south african government.

neither the journalist nor myself, wrote a line on that photo and say its the Augusta 109, the reporter did not have the south african photo and he wanted a pic for his story, he used an asian helicopter that crashed in a bush like kruger park, but his story is perfectly true.

journalists all over the world do that same thing when they cannot find exact photos and they need a picture for their story, they get an alternative.

if you are not intelligent enough to know how journalists operate, then you must be living in a remote farming village.

Augusta 109 helicopter ? i know more about it than you do. just yesterday i posted its photo with labels of its body parts and hardware on page 686 for people to see, you never did that on this forum, did you ?

buffoon of simons town

I am not doubting the story the helicopter crashed, i am just pointing out you don't know what it looks like, yes you found a pick of one but in truth you don't know anything about it. If you did you would not have posted a pick that is clearly not a A109. Still waiting to see if you know what it is. But just like when you claimed the T-craft was made from aluminum i will not get a response

agaugust: i will not waste my time to go look for @Patriot4's old post with source that proved on this forum nigerian army resisted and fought hard against the sudanese militia attack of about 10 times the size of the nigerian contingent, untill other UN troops came to join nigeria, about 100 NA men against about 1,000 Sudan motorized militia fighters, they could not enter the nigeria army base even though we were surrounded.

unlike south african army vs seleka, nigerian army sent more soldiers into sudan, not run away like SANDF who first surrendered to beg seleka for same passage to the airport and hide under the p..a..n..t..s of some french soldiers, then ran away from CAR finally, refused to go back and fight seleka because south african soldiers want monthly salary payment but never want to die in war.

Sudan's army rescued nigerian army ? Sudan's army and the attacking supporter of APC were allies on the same side killing the black people nigeria went to save. you dont even know simple information about the Dafur battle, then you poet with no source and twist the truth with your usual fake stories.....south africa has a satellite as at today 2013....DSTV movie channel operated by @andrewza

And the base was overrun, where in CAR 250 SA solders vs 3000 rebels and the base was not over run. No other army came to rescue us.

Perhaps you should go look that post up again the rebels even stole from the base before reteating.

agaugust: suicide ? source please !

read one of the comments from south african citizens on that story, and go kiss your own a.zz

[size=14pt]AUG 20, 2013
RobinX
It can only be that he was accidentally shot in "friendly fire". Good grief, our troops are incompetent. How poorly they are trained. Really sad, this, but I blame incompetent training officers. SO what kind of military operation is conducted in the Kruger Park? A spot of hunting for the regimental braai?[/size]



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http://thenewage.co.za/105033-1007-53-Minister_mourns_loss_of_suicide_soldier

sucide

chris365: excuses galore

What excuses none were killed by poachers.

agaugust: hahahaha ; you and @saengine were the ones wasting my time in naval blockade simulation before now, threatening my F-7 jets with some non-existing Rooivalk helicopter air to air missiles. good to see i have forced you to confess your fraud...south african Rooivalk helicopters have NO air to air missiles as at today, and so they will all be shot down by nigerian F-7 jets if you use them in any naval blockade as at today, as at this year 2013.

you are the only soldier toy soldier i know who is excited about some foolish arabs using helicopter air to ground missiles for air to air combat...those arabs are just as foolish as you are, thats why you like repeating that foolish story

i dont care about any certification/testing, south african sources confirmed to air force technology report that A-Darter missile will NOT be in service with south african military until year 2014. fact, i posted with source just yesterday

how many times in 6 months will i lecture you with sources that a ship is not OPV or Frigate because of its size, rather because of its weapons/armaments on board. go back to page 500 and see a chinese Type 022 boat that is 8 times smaller in weight than nigerian Type 056 warships and the tiny chinese boat is armed with 8 C-803 anti-ship missiles that can sink the whole south african navy from 250km away distance. go back to page 500 and see it there, you master of mis-information.

speed ? the Type 056 and Valour frigate have exactly the same speed of 28 knots. please stop posting nonsense, master of mis-information.

firepower ? wait till nigerian Type 056 arrives our lagos port next year. nigerian version is superior to the other countries, bigger size, heavier weight, and only nigerian version has a full helicopter hanger for permanent air operations at sea without base/habour support, all the other countries own including china have only ordinary helipad to land the helicopter but no air operations support capability.

missiles ? yes wait, the ships specifications are being changed for superior perfomance, same reason the original helipad we were told before has been changed to a full helicopter hanger. the OPV story is a mere story, the document with ministry of defence says light frigate.

wait, 2014 is not far away. i wont be on this forum then for sure...but lets all see it when the ship arrives. the specs are being upgraded.

even beegeagle has started changing his story now to reflect new information coming out on the nigeria ships

"The fact that the P18N OPVs were developed from the Type 056 corvette means that from the perspectives of training, maintenance and interoperability, the Type 056 corvette and P18N OPVs would perfectly complement each other – with commonality in operating systems and navtronics, helicopters and replenishable stock.


Nigeria’s incoming 1,800 ton P18N stealth Offshore Patrol Vessels are enlarged OPV variants of the Pattani OPV/Type 056 corvette which, as far as naval aviation goes, features the added advantage of incorporating fully-fledged hangars from which airframes such as the Agusta A109e Power and more appropriately, the Harbin Z-9EC anti submarine warfare(ASW) helicopter can operate."

http://beegeagle./2013/08/11/chinas-ultramodern-and-freshly-inducted-95-metre-1440-ton-type-056-corvette-and-harbin-z-9-helicopter-pairing-re-examined-workable-template-for-nigerias-incoming-1800-ton-p18n-stealth-opvs/


dont be in a hurry, wait till 2014 and see nigerian navy with two most d.eadly warships in africa. be patient

The rooivalk is built to be able to fire AAMs but due to cost vs need (zero need) it is not loaded

notice SAAF rooivalk carrying mokap ATGM and AAM
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And i believe we said the Frigate will shoot them down

Yes but the A darter is certified has in they can carry them and there are A darter in limited supply due to no mass production line.

Yes and you own navy is calling them OPVs not frigate. They OPVs that what the order is for.

Valour have achieved 31knots i know that for a fact. if you puting a larger hanger and not increasing length somthing will have to give.