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agaugust: honestly i am surprised that new DENEL Hungwe drone looks like this Nigerian made Amebo 3 drone design. why ?

agaugust: any weblink source to prove that claim ?

training is classroom theory, battlefield is the practical. brazil's army has zero modern war history and zero jungle war history. sorry south african army went to the wrong teacher, blind man leading the blind. south african military generals always make wrong decisions, thats why your country never won any war.

swallow your pride, come ask nigeria how 1,000 soldiers of her soldiers died in 10 years jungle war of liberia/sierra leone. no single brazilian army soldier ever fought or died in jungle war.

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agaugust: angola border war was conventional war not counter-terrorism war.

nigeria has better experience in war with over 70,000 rebels/guerilla/insurgent forces in sierra leone and liberia, so we should be training south africa how to go back to CAR and defeat seleka rebels and how to reduce your casualties when you face M23 Congo rebels inside thick forest/jungle in case the rebels move bases into hiding.

the worst kind of war in the world is jungle warfare, and nigeria is world champion for that. get it ? yeah man !

nigerian army infantry....king of the jungle !

homerac7: ooooooh! ...my dimwit friend, Andrewza! You never get it...what i am rying to tell you is that "what they claim to deny you in public, they bring to you in private". we have been there before and know how the hypocrisy runs.

...and with your Sad African golden pie, just as we have told you many times ...shove it up your arsssxse...

Dibiachukwu: Any country that sanctions trade to Nigeria, would be helping us alot. Because, that would force back all our professionals, and ensue an industrial revolution, with award winning speed.

homerac7: ^^^

who opened your cage?




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you Sad Africans again?!!!...don't I know you from somewhere?

Let me educate you again. We have weathered international sanctions before under the khaki boys. what you call sanctions is simply another level of international politics. Nigeria turned to the East because of sanctions from the West, guess what happened? ...West came running back through private proxies. The sanctioned our national carrier, we banned BA. They kicked because of new local decree and Shell got a kick. We got sanctioned from buying arms, Cote de Ivore and Ghana received arms on behalf of ECOMOG which ended in our armories. China and India ran to fill the market space sharp-sharp! Even recently, we called for arrest of Henry Okar and the host country was "playing" politics, ...next we told then we are nationalizing MTN and Multilinks...fiam!!!...immediately immediately, Gideon Orkar was landed in jail.

It is part of why WE ARE THE TRUE [size=32pt]GIANT OF AFRICA[/size].

All wannabes can go throw shit....

solomon111: I think it would be best if we just wait and see, because i am tired of arguing.
This would be my last reply on this thread.

solomon111: Everything you wrote is balderdash.
1)18 hrs of uninterrupted electricity in the commercial cities will be enough to serve the energy needs of car companies.
And you have no reason beside bitterness to say otherwise.
2)southafrican investments are many but negligible.
The biggest investors in the most critical sectors comes from asia and america.
The biggest SAn investment in Nigeria is MTN and it has a Nigerian competitor GLO.
3)our banks are relatively stable and hugely capitalized and they are spread all across Africa.
Infact the best African bank 2012 was won by GTB a Nigerian bank.
Our banks ranks among the best in Africa.

solomon111: The ease of doing business in Nigeria has been hampered majorly by electricity issues though it has improved in recent times.
And last time i checked, Nigeria still attracts more investments than SA,so once electricity in Nigeria is stabilized SA is a goner.
Btw,if you think the only thing Nigeria has to trade is crude oil,then you must be more dumb than i thought.

Russia is offering 18 ex-Indian Air Force Su-30MKI fighters to Ethiopia, which already operates a number of Su-27 models.

Rosoboronexport deputy general director Alexander Mikheyev said on Friday that Ethiopia was interested in acquiring the Su-30MKIs. "We are in consultation with Ethiopia about a possible sale of these aircraft. We proposed to modernise them in order to improve their tactical and technical characteristics and equip modern air-to-ground missiles," RIA Novosti quoted him as saying.

“If the customer is willing to fund operations, we are ready to make repairs, upgrade and deliver the aircraft within four to six months,” Mikheyev said. At present, four ex-Indian Su-30MKIs are being refurbished.

India has ordered more than 200 Su-30MKIs in a number of batches. The early models delivered were basic aircraft without features like canards and thrust vector controls, and it is these 18 early model aircraft (ten Su-30MK and eight Su-30K fighters) that were returned to Russia in 2003 and replaced with more advanced Su-30s.

Last year, at the time of the September Africa Aerospace and Defence show held outside Pretoria, Mikheyev said that Russia was ready to export Su-30s to Africa, especially to countries like Uganda, Angola and Ethiopia. Angola received six Su-30MK2 multirole fighters last year and may buy another six.

Ethiopia has a relatively well equipped, trained and maintained air force, which is one of the most capable on the continent. Its fixed wing combat fleet includes roughly a dozen MiG-21s, a dozen MiG-23s, eight Su-25s and a dozen Su-27s. The SU-27s were bought in the late 1990s and used in combat against Eritrean MiG-29s.

Hezron Lorraine: you right bout AU.am yet to hear a concrete comment from Mrs Dlamini Zuma,the AU Sec Gen on the Egypt crisis.at times the AU acts like a slow dog who also respects Egypts alignment to Arab world.
The weakness of the AU is far pronounced on how it is slow to respond and contain crises in the african continent.
Moreover what sanction can be imposed on Egypt at a point like this that would affect them.
I've been searching for updates to see if the Turtle Bay has made comments to condemn what has happened in Egypt.
Obama is a snitch,CNN had it that he phoned Morsi to contain the crises and give the people something to hold unto to stop the protest,also recommending that a roubd-table discussions be held with army chiefs and top govt officials after the foreign minister resigned.
Morsi played strong-head and didn't yield to any of that.US secretly had its way with the Egyptian army and toppled Morsi's govt.
After the announcement were made.CNN carried news that the Department of State was considering a reviewof its policy's on Egypt and the US govt would consider suspending the aids to Egypt.
I now asked who's playing who.
I believe the overthrow was well calculated and the protest of the citizens plus their anger against Morsi islamist fundamentalism helped trigger the quick removal of Morsi from power.
what does Nigeria think of this,am sure Jonah's govt can't say anything against or in support if he doesn't want a Nigerian revolution.

Hezron Lorraine: you right bout AU.am yet to hear a concrete comment from Mrs Dlamini Zuma,the AU Sec Gen on the Egypt crisis.at times the AU acts like a slow dog who also respects Egypts alignment to Arab world.
The weakness of the AU is far pronounced on how it is slow to respond and contain crises in the african continent.
Moreover what sanction can be imposed on Egypt at a point like this that would affect them.
I've been searching for updates to see if the Turtle Bay has made comments to condemn what has happened in Egypt.
Obama is a snitch,CNN had it that he phoned Morsi to contain the crises and give the people something to hold unto to stop the protest,also recommending that a roubd-table discussions be held with army chiefs and top govt officials after the foreign minister resigned.
Morsi played strong-head and didn't yield to any of that.US secretly had its way with the Egyptian army and toppled Morsi's govt.
After the announcement were made.CNN carried news that the Department of State was considering a reviewof its policy's on Egypt and the US govt would consider suspending the aids to Egypt.
I now asked who's playing who.
I believe the overthrow was well calculated and the protest of the citizens plus their anger against Morsi islamist fundamentalism helped trigger the quick removal of Morsi from power.

scipher: ask other African countries and some European countries, they'd tell you... You have stringent business policies which deters potential investors.. All these were highlighted during Jonathan's recent visit, I do hope both sides would come to terms

Obiagelli: You ain't offering us dstv n Co, we are allowing you operate here, we would like access to open shops and trade in your country like we do in Ghana and other parts of africa.

solomon111: The automobile companies will not work for 24 hours so yes,18 hrs of uninterrupted electricity in the daytime will be enough atleast for a start.
The target is still 24 hrs electricity.
Secondly,as i said before,Nigeria is a far more attractive investment destination than SA.
The Stats are there to prove it.
Thirdly Southafrica is not that developed,whatever infrastructure you think you have can be replicated in Nigeria in the shortest possible time.
The only real constraint is electricity,which will be taken care of.

agaugust: you dont know reality of war, so 50,000 men will defend huge south african land size 1.2 million sq km, you are a comedian. liberia, tiny liberia alone nigeria used about 10,000 soldiers.

you like comedy, you said last week that south africa`s 50,000 men will defeat north korea`s huge one million man army. joke, real joke.

you have no true bush war information. you tell lies, south africa did not fight alone, about 3,000 men on frontline and 17,000 men rear-guard all about 20,000 south african army plus about 80,000 UNITA and FNLA rebels supporting south african army in combat. about 100,000 on south african side against about 120,000 on cuban,angolan,MPLA side.

the war was fairly balanced in power, and south africa did NOT win, you almost lost, then you quickly called for peace negotiations.

weblink sources

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angolan_Civil_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cuito_Cuanavale

QUOTE :

"The Bush War lasted from 1966 until 1989, making it one of Africa’s longest conflicts. The Bush War was fought in Northern Namibia (former South West Africa), and also in Southern Angola – so-called ‘Operational Area’ or ‘Border’. “Bush War” constitutes a literal unburdening for those whose voices have been silenced for so long. The viewer is taken on a journey that moves through a bloody November 1975 (Angolan Independence) and culminates in the Cuban military victory over the South African Defence Force at Cuito Cuanavale (1988)"

weblink source : http://www.mnetsales.com/titles/bushwar


https://www.mnetsales.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Bushwar_WP.jpg

agaugust: i have my reasons about why nigeria can invade south africa by end of 2014. i am not saying it this week, topic to discuss later this month.

manpower shortage for south african military is very clear, 50,000 soldiers for 1.2 million sq km compare nigeria with 200,000 soldiers for 0.9 million sq km. nigeria has smaller land but 4 times more soldiers.

those your large numbers of IFV/APC vehicles will be half useless in urban city warfare, they get destroyed by enemy anti-tank snipers with hand held swingfire, the enemy will hide in tall buildings and shoot from windows. try research urban city warfare tactics and history. infantry numbers rule the land in urban city warfare.

in jungle warfare the IFV/APC vehicles are totally useless.

stop lying about 3,000 south african soldiers holding back about 100,000 angolan and cuban army. i posted the details of the bush war when snydergp was making some crazy posts. did you use 250 paratroops to hold back 2,500 seleka rebels
stop posting all these crazy impossible numbers that even america could not achieve, we ran away from china`s army in korea due to their numbers, american army ran ! now you say south africa performed the impossible. stop these crazy lies.

chris365: the US policy regarding issues like this is to suspend all aids till there is transition to civilian rule, not to cancel. and Egypt needs the US far more than US needs them.

well i doubt russia or china will be willing to grant egypt the kind of aid it needs to run it's large and well armed military and it's economy as egypt is the 3rd largest aid recipient of US aid. Even as the military controls about 40% of the economy, it still needs a lot more to counter israeli threat.

china only trades with egypt but they are not allies. so these changes can't happen overnight. US knows this and still refuse to condemn it.

so what would make it seem otherwise?

But my main disappointment is with AU. if they are to promote peace and stability in africa, they should learn to distance themselves from and put serious sanctions on countries with such and related offenses.

chris365: if there's no US involvement why is the US reluctant to condemn such an act. as much as i never liked morsi's islamist agenda for Egypt, i still see him as a legitimate government that was elected by majority of Egyptians, constitutions were voted for and approved by the majority, and if he was to be removed it should have been done constitutionally by impeachment.

This is another issue that has exposed the weakness of AU's ability to wade into African political and humanitarian crisis. 2 coups in 2 years. that's a big shame for a large continent with such bright potentials.

Africa has a long way to go when it comes to understanding true meaning of democracy if we are to be taken seriously by the international community. am glad Nigeria has learned a lot from it's past.

agaugust: South Africa has major military defense weak points...several of them....one is manpower shortage, very serious.

That is the first point a potential invader will consider. Also, several other weak points I don't want to talk about today.

By 2014 next year, Nigeria will have military capacity to invade all African countries that does not require crossing another nations territory, except Egypt , Algeria, but needs to cross other nations to enter Ethiopia.

Virick: Assumptions? Well, i have met some Zims myself while in SA and they moved to SA due to economics mostly, one was planning to go back as he had recently been offered a job . "Fear of Mugabe" is too wide and all condemning a statement for mere hearsay, don't u think? But at least, u are drawing conclusions for urself and not from the mass hysteria device called the TV. It's all good

Regarding ur response to Uhmerika

Interesting, would u like to venture a guess as to WHY?
Can i thus rest my case that they have only 2 parties? Thanks.

Obiagelli: Nigeria offers what the likes of mtn, dstv, shoprite and co are enjoying, so what is SA offering?

Obiagelli: More reason why the deal doesn't make any sense to me, except your borders goes free and Nigerians can do their usual buying n selling.

solomon111: 10000MW will be enough to kickstart our economy and that is for a start.
It will give us atleast 18 hours of uninterrupted electricity in commercial cities, which are usually where most of these companies are sited.
Secondly,most of the biggest investors in Nigeria are actually from Asia and america.
The southafricans are in the smaller sectors of the economy though in larger numbers.
I don't mind,though.
They see Nigeria as a viable investment destination and they come.
Thirdly,Nigeria is a far more attractive destination for car manufacturers and technological companies due to significantly cheaper labour and less stress from labour Unions.
The only advantage SA has is electricity,and once that is fixed they will naturally enter Nigeria.
They have no business in southafrica,when there's a 170million cheap labour and direct market with decent electricity.
Thirdly,there is nothing special about SAn technology,though decent but it's still in a crude stage.
Nigeria already has the technological manpower both in Nigeria and abroad.
What Nigeria needs now is to solve electricity issues and indigenous technology will expand.

chris365: i was discussing with some friends and they argued that 3000 will not be enough cos it's not only M23 rebels they'll be fighting, according to the mandate i heard they were given and M23 alone has more than 5000. even almost 20000 UN troops didn't scare those guys.

you guys really need to redeem yourselves after the whole CAR incident. cos we waiting to add more subjects to this thread.

Henry120: If a nation deploys this much military hardware for an operation, and the moronic trio of afua hirsch, premiumtimes.com.ng and saharareporters.com says they are ill-equipped for the mission, would a sane person, not advise the 3 of them to check into a mental facility?

patriot4: Wait, let us see:
Nigeria can not invade USA,
but Nigeria can invade South Africa.
I guess you meant USA and not SA, unless you subcontiously equall both of them.

agaugust: if you dont have time to read my posts, dont reply. you create irritation and anger by wasting my time. i have work to do else where.

did you inspect nigerian ATR 42 to see they dont have the manufacturers standard in-built gun ? dont waste my time , read the manufacturers details i posted. if you ask unnecessary questions because you dont read, i will just ignore you.

i told you nigerian has 2 ATR-42 for an 850km coast and if you cannot do mathematics of 320km x 2, then dont waste my time.

the radar range of ATR-42 is in the first weblink of my post, 330km, source below.

http://www.casr.ca/id-fwsar-italy-2.htm


i cannot find source for your super lynx radar range claim 370km, post source.