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agaugust: ignorant fool. ordinary poachers are killing south african military in your homeland backyard there in kruger park and you dont even know it maybe the poachers will soon capture you yourself



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SANDF soldier killed in Kruger Park
AUG 20, 2013.
A soldier has been killed during an operation in the Kruger National Park, the SA National Defence Force said on Monday.[/size]

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2013/08/20/sandf-soldier-killed-in-kruger-park?filter=all_comments



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Rhino horn thieves waste south african soldiers/officers and helicopter

The k.illed soldiers and officers are:

Captain Jacobus Andries van Rensburg

Captain MP Chabalala

Sergeant Paulus Shongela Ndishishi

Sergeant GP Ruiters

Lance Corporal Bheki Petros Cele.

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Johannesburg - The SA National Defence Force on Monday released the names of the five soldiers who died in a helicopter crash in the Kruger National Park.

"It is with sadness that the SANDF announces the names of the members who were in a fatal helicopter crash," the department of defence said in a statement.

The soldiers were: Captain Jacobus Andries van Rensburg; Captain MP Chabalala; Sergeant Paulus Shongela Ndishishi; Sergeant GP Ruiters and Lance Corporal Bheki Petros Cele.

On Saturday night, a helicopter conducting a scheduled aerial patrol of the Kruger National Park - as part of an anti-rhino poaching operation - crashed, killing the five SANDF members on board.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Kruger-helicopter-crash-victims-named-20130401


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First one was a suicide aka he shot himself, second one was a helo crash

2smooth2shout: first of all, you need to research about the bakassi conflict before you start to sound like ignorant CrabB. Nigerian troops invaded bakassi and pushed cameroonians out after Nigerian citizens were attacked. Bakassi always belonged to cameroon but occupied by Nigerians.

That's why they ran to UN cos it would have been suicide for them to face us in a war.

So you admit 100 suicide bombers will cripple SA. No wonder the boers handed the country to a terrorist group. Nigerian army has turned boko haram to eat themselves and we've had more than 100 suicide bombings.

No wonder poachers are still having a good time in the bushes after you've deployed everything

Who has the land now? that is the point. Many countries all over the world have land claims?

Dude 100 suicide bomber would cripple any country, not even bagdad at it's worse got 100 suicide bombings. Give me 100 suicide bombs a city and i will bring it to a stop. 1 bombing in boston caused the city to g in to lockdown.

2smooth2shout: o, so now you want to discredit reporters cos the story doesn't favor you. South africans and excuses sha... Na wa o

I never menstioned the artical. Just pointed out that the helcopter used is wrong(wrong country and wrong helcopter) and some one who claims to be a expert should have picked that up. I don't blam the reporter, not there fault they ignorant most people are when it comes to the milltary.

agaugust: their leader is dead, boko haram has lost what al-qaeda lost, never the same again since osama bin laden was killed.

it is only a 33% south african brain that will say the fighter that is hiding in the bush and cannot come out, is winning the war against the fighter that is bold enough to show his face and capture/control territory

...reason why south african army ran away from seleka in CAR and still declared itself winner of the battle....usain bolt run away speed ...cowards, toy soldiers SANDF

see 'nelson mandela's grandson' riding your army's vehicle below...fools

Firstly he may be dead he may not, secondly he is a man just a man.

We had a mission, protect the training team and they were protected. Secondly seleka attacked us yet we held our base. Thirdly withdraw is not the same has retreat.

agaugust: thsts the helicopter pic from the original story.

http://www.trtromanian.com/trtWorld/en/newsDetail.aspx?HaberKodu=16c0a897-5ade-4d1e-a18f-aa4775f0dbed

And you claim to be some expert. Please what helcopter crashed and what helcopter is that, hint look at the cockpit it is a dead give away. Any case the only guy in uniform there is not wearing any sa uniform.

Reporters don't know the difrence between a APC and a tank and machin gun vs assult rifel.

agaugust: show me that source for cameroon.

cameroon went to court to claim bakassi peninsula by legal means at world court, not by war....and bakassi is cameroons land according to all colonial maps and documents, nigerians were living on another man's land, we just gave it back to the lawful owner.

show me that source for sudan. i hate repeating old posts, reason i am getting to hate this thread.

@patriot4 posted the sudan attack on nigerian peace keepers base, our soldiers repelled the attack, and we remained in sudan battle fields for many years after that attack, we did not run away in 18 hours like south african army ran from Seleka rebels and flew back to soweto airport for fear of seleka child soldiers.

boko haram ? nigerian amry has killed their leader in gun battle. we dont see his live videos again on al jazeera news/TV since june 30.

Rhino poachers killed south african soldiers in krugar park, thats a hard time for SANDF from ordianry thieves. 100 boko haram s.uicide bombers camouflaged as civilians will shut down the whole of pretoria with fear and panic.

70% of the remaining white men will leave south africa and run away finally to Australia if b.oko haram strikes with only 100 s.uicide bombers each in pretoria, cape town, durban, and johanesburg.

all south africans are born cowards who run away from the shadow of death even before the real death itself appears

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It is land they gained from you. Swaziland has a land cliam on SA. You think with care about them


The artical was posted long time ago. You even posted some of the info. So I feel no need to repost it since you know what I am talking about.

No the artical he posted showed that they were forced out of the base and the sudan army saved the day.

Only fools like you cliam we ran away. We withdrew due to haveing no legit mandate to remain in car.

And he is just a man. If zuma dies does that mean sa will stope being sa?


Firstly most rhino poachers are atctualy ex milltary from mozbque. Second post a proof that a sa solder has been killed by a poacher. No menstion has been made to that effect.

And 100 sucide bombs would shut down any city with fear and panic.

What why would we leave beacause of sucide bombers. We stayed during the early 1990s when we where on the brink of civil war, we would want reveng not flee in tero.

Really then why where sa solders the only force that stood there ground in car while the rest ran away. You are fool the whole world knowes this.

agaugust: south africa has only 25 Iris missiles, thats all the air to air missiles usable in south africa today.

nigeria has 20 PL-9 missiles and over 100 Atoll missiles, we have over 120 air to air missiles usable today in nigeria.

nigeria has over 6 times more air to air missiles than south africa today.

mokopa is an air to ground missile of south africa, NOT air to air missile, it is not relevant to the discussion of yesterday.

A-Darter missile is NOT in service and cannot be used by south africa until year 2014. fact with source i posted today. s.hut up !

nigerian navy Type 056 is a light frigate called an OPV because it is multi-purpose. defenceweb states that in the nigerian navy request that brought the ship to our fleet.

"The French ADIT research agency says the 10 year plan would unfold in three phases.

In the first, scheduled to last two years, Abuja will procure two light frigates and two 85-metre offshore patrol vessels (OPVs)"

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4023&Itemid=363

all Type 056 warships versions as light frigates (china), corvettes (bangladesh), OPV (thailand) all carry missiles, go google it. fact !

i dont care what you say.
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You can try to hit somthing with your 1975 atoll. It will be fun to watch that failer.

The rooivalk is a attack helcopter. Most do not carry AAMs. Even so iraq and iran did shot at each helcopters with ATGMs.


The air force has all ready fired and used A darter. 2014 is when mass producstion takes place.


No it not. It is a OPV because of it's size, speed and fire power.

And are you those countries?

agaugust: only Biafra's army has ever stood firm face to face to fight nigerian army....and that is only because Biafran army itself was a former part of nigerian army.

every other force fights and runs for cover when nigerian army shows face, if they k.ill 20, we k.ill 200.

run away enemies list.

1. Chad
2. Maitatsine insurgents
3. Cameroon
4. Boko Haram insurgents
5. will be South Africa one day coming....

Camaroon made terrtorial gains in nigeria.

Sudan rebels over ran a nigerian base and nigeria with drew from all there un missions because BH is giving them such a hard time.

agaugust: i hate repeating posts. however, i will for the moment.

Rhino poachers have not attacked south africa at all, not to even talk of full scale combat. Poachers are attacking Rhinos, and south african soldiers are k.illed easily by these ordinary poachers/thieves, the poachers even 'shot down' a south african air force helicopter trying to chase the thieves and 5 south african amry soldiers died in the process....

only 100 boko haram s.uicide b.ombers disguised as civilians will ruin pretoria city in one day of s.uicide b.ombing.

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2013/08/20/sandf-soldier-killed-in-kruger-park?filter=all_comments

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21986456

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That pic is just more proof that you a fool that has zero knowldge and is talking out of his ass?

agaugust: [size=16pt] south african Gripen jets have only ONE missile each

south african Hawk jets have NO missile at all

south african Rooivalk helicopter gunships have NO missile at all

south african A-Darter missile will NOT be in service until year 2014. Fact.


A-Darter missile will enter service with the South African Air Force (SAAF) and Brazilian Air Force (FAB) next year 2014.

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/a-darter-air-to-air-missile/[/size]


if you south africans want to claim use of weapons and missiles your military does not have today, what will naval blockade simulation war look like today, if i also use nigeria's two new stealth light frigates arriving next year 2014 and i arm them with C-803 anti-ship missiles that have super range of 300km and fire control radar guidance of 250km ?

we too can claim and use weapons not yet delivered as at today.

you these fools of soweto ! b.loody liars, your 33% brain cannot even manufacture intelligent lies

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Yet we still have more isrt than your chinnes AAMs? We just have more air craft.

Well the hawk is not a fighter but a a training aircraft with a light attack roll. The impale never carried AAMs.

The mokape was certfied last year and there were a few test firings. SAAF has just not orderd any mokape. That does not mean they can not.

The A-darter is still certfied for the gripen somthing you did not think could be true.


NNS is not getting light frigats you geting OPVs, you don't even know if it will carry any missiels and these are missiels that we menstion are made in sa and have been used by the SANDF. The only resaon they not being rushed is that we at peace so things take there time.

mchidi: guy u are just deceiving your self nigeria is the giant of west africa and africa. You say ghana is far better than nigeria what role do they play africa don't even know y am saying africa what role do they play in west africa if any african country is in crisis who do they come and meet for help nigeria not ghana because they know ghana is shit they do much to help their country un like nigeria. And you also say ur country economy is going grow faster than nigeria's economy in 2013 then tell me why nigeria has the fastest growing economy in africa

Nigeria does not have the fastest growing economy in africa. And sad thing is nigeria annal budget is tiny. So you guys are actualy poor.

souldust: you can post them elsewhere and give us links of it. Or you can reduce the size of the pics

I will do that tommorow. But here some pics other people took.

agaugust: same way your Gripen jets will fly with empty missile pylons/hardpoints, same way your Valour warships will sail with empty missile cells. fact !

south africa itself never hides basic military information, they are always boasting about what they have to show the world. SIPRI will see south african a.zz more than they see nigeria's , your country's military sh..i..t hole is always open to the public on internet...thats why i know too much about south african weapons and their weaknesses

@saengine has been boasting here that south african navy test fires anti-ship missiles regularly, so we dont even know if your warships have up to the 4 missiles each by now after 6 years, the number could be less since your people boast that south african navy test fires missiles regularly on all 4 warships. nice waste of money....$1 million per unit missile. fools

Gripen jets are short of missiles
Valour frigates are short of missiles

south african military weakness...live with it, or deal with it.
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SA has very few air threats most of the gripen hard points would carry bombs. Even so the a darter is there.


No SANDF is very secrive it has a secrtive account that not even members of parlment has access to. We reveal info to show that we not waisting money. Our defence industry market the goods that of course the sandf use and we may even assest with the markting.

We fire a few excocet and umkontho every now and then. And replenish stock. Any case we have skepion ASMs

agaugust: only IRIS missile works on Gripen jet as at today and you have only one missile for each Gripen. dont write ant A or B or Z data to cover up your open a.zz

nigeria has over 100 Atoll air to air missiles for F-7 jet. Fact ! dont let me rubbish you with sources again, like the APR-40 story. sharaaap dude !

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Well I have jus shown we the a darter is certfied on the gripen. So you all ready wrong. Denel could certfie any of it's wepaons on our gripens.

agaugust: only IRIS missile works on Gripen jet as at today and you have only one missile for each Gripen. dont write ant A or B or Z data to cover up your open a.zz

nigeria has over 100 Atoll air to air missiles for F-7 jet. Fact ! dont let me rubbish you with sources again, like the APR-40 story. sharaaap dude !

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Well I have jus shown we the a darter is certfied on the gripen. So you all ready wrong.

agaugust: quote BBC or Reuters or VOA source for the above claim please

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A fast search got this.

http://m.jacarandafm.com/post/sandf-denies-drc-clashes/

24 August 2013 at 17:10
The SA National Defence Force (SANDF) on Saturday denied reports that South African troops had clashed with rebels in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
   
"We have not heard about any of this," said SANDF spokesman Brigadier General Xolani Mabanga.
   
The SA National Defence Union (Sandu) said the local troops had been involved in clashes with the rebels.
  
"[We understand] that troops deployed in the intervention brigade in the eastern DRC have been engaged in at least two incidents of engagement with enemy rebel forces near Goma over the past 12 hours," Sandu's Tim Flack said in a statement.
  
"Apparently our troops eliminated an enemy machine gun nest hampering the advance of Congolese forces and also returned mortar fire on rebel forces."
   
Flack said the union wished the local troops in the DRC all the best.

agaugust: if you have a source to prove that, post it or else lets wait and see a Hawk fire an A-darter missile in air to air combat drill.

http://m.engineeringnews.co.za/article/a-darter-could-be-followed-by-further-south-african-brazilian-air-force-missile-projects-2012-11-09

he A-Darter has already been integrated on to the South African Air Force’s Saab Gripen fighters and is also being integrated on to its BAE Systems Hawk fighter-trainers. Integration of the missile on Brazilian Air Force fighters will take place in Brazil, with the support of Denel Dynamics, which is the design authority.

agaugust: south african too is hardly a trusted source. Angolan bush war and Seleka combat casualty figures dispute, fake satellite, extra extra extra

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Only fools doubt those casulty reports and how do you fake a satlight photo.

Now what are those extras.


Any case the SANDF is not the source of the info.

agaugust: NO ! you posted wrong fact.

TRUE FACT IS : nigerian 12 F-7 jets have 20 PL-9 missiles to share and a big back up supply of over 100 Atoll missiles too, plus many air to ground rockets/rocket pods/special bombs all worth about $ 30 million of assorted ammunitions. fact !

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So you not atoll we have r,d and v daters.

And you have less aam's than sa.

agaugust: .

[size=16pt]south african navy Valour Frigates have only 4 Exocet missiles for each warship instead of the standard 8 anti-ship missiles. fact.[/size]

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What. You think SIPRI can not be off with SA to. Each frigat has 2 quade cells 2x4 is what now.

agaugust: A-Darter is missile is NOT yet in service today though developed, and it is a south african missile NOT yet configured to be used by SAAB Gripen which is a Swedish made imported jet .

try to be honest and give complete information. half information is a form of mis-information.

south african Gripen jets have only one missile each for over 5 years . fact you were hiding for 600 pages of this thread.

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The A darter has been certfied on the gripen and hawk all ready. This was achieved last year.

agaugust: [size=16pt]south african Hawk jets have no air to air missiles at all. fact.[/size]

[img]http://www.flightglobal.com/assets/getAsset.aspx?ItemID=38940[/img]

A darter has been certfied on the hawk.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q80/s720x720/1098463_10151575900391697_449746027_n.jpg

she left today

i cant post my pics has they over 200mb

agaugust: .

[size=14pt]south african Gripen jets have only one missile each. fact .[/size]

For the ISRT yes, but the ISRT was only a interim AAM till the A darter came out. No detail on number of A-darters will be public domian since you know we build it our self.

agaugust: google is your friend. south africa ranks 1st to 3rd position worldwide on those crimes.

For nations that have reliable statistics and post those details may be.

agaugust: "UN troops in the Democratic Republic of Congo have launched an offensive, shelling positions held by rebels near the eastern city of Goma.

The UN was responding to shelling from M23 rebels on Goma on Thursday, a UN spokesman said. Congolese officials say five civilians in the city died.

A M23 spokesman told the BBC it had not attacked the city, blaming the army for provoking the fighting."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-23816186

the M23 rebels deny your claim. since you were not on the battlefield, please s.hut your m.outh tight, or go to the war zone like a real man...you coward under your wife's blanket...toy soldier

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So who shelled goma?
The UN who use it has there base or the DRC army who use it has a base?
he FIB shelled M23 positions 13km from goma. whether or not M23 shot first or not does not matter. You claimed UN and thus SA shelled and killed civilian something you can not proof.

And M23 is hardly a trusted source i mean they not going to admit to war crimes

agaugust: foolish man, an expired satellite cannot take pictures and send it to earth, it goes out of controlled orbit and loses contact with earth station, they know its there but it does not work anymore. fool, dead satellites work only when it is south african owned. foolish liar, you cannot even tell a smart intelligent lie.

the 15 south african soldiers who died from seleka bullets in CAR must be the same ones now deployed to face M23 rebels in Congo DRC today...fool

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Who said they used that satellite.

agaugust: i am de-horning your boasting Rhino piece by piece, i dont rush my things. before i post my source, educate yourself first :

south african navy valour warship Umkhonto missiles is NOT engineered to hit incoming anti-ship missiles fired from warships like NNS ARADU, because the launch tubes of Umhkonto missiles are vertical and fixed that way, built to fire straight up into the air to stop enemy aircraft or enemy air to surface missiles fired from enemy aircraft.

the valour frigates are designed and armed to be more of anti-aircraft defence warship than anti-ship.

Umhkonto missile is not the weapon of valour frigates designed to stop surface to surface missiles, you got it all wrong. show us a source that says its is for anti-surface use. it will not perform well in that role and the south african warship will get sunk in that wrong use of defensive weaponry.

there is a different weapon on valour frigate for stopping anti-ship missiles, but i wont tell you now because you are ungrateful.

NNS ARADU Otomat missiles will sink the valour frigates, i think with about 80% chance of success, and one single hit from NNS ARADU missile is enough to sink a whole ship, the Otomat is one of the most powerful anti-ship missiles in the world.

while your wrongly used Umhkonto missile starts its journey of defence vertically upwards from its fixed vertical tubes towards the sky and moon, nigerian Otomat missile is hugging and skimming the sea water surface and heading to target.

go to data of valour frigate under its photo on the wikipedia page, and read this under list of armaments and learn from a nigerian civilian about a south african warship :

"Surface-to-Air: 16 Umkhonto surface-to-air missiles (mounted in two eight-cell vertical launchers}"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valour-class_frigate

also learn that it is designed to be majorly specialized anti-air threat frigate, not anti-sea threat.

"South African Valour Class MEKO A-200 anti-air frigates"

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/meko/

learn the above lessons first before i teach you about Otomat missile with source in a very direct answer to your foolish question

Wow you again just showed you know nothing.

2smooth2shout: @southafricans. Why is it that when i ask you simple questions you all hide your heads like tortoise?

First i asked for south african military achievements you all ran away.

Now i asked which modern conventional war has south africa fought, Msauza and the rest lost their tongues.
Even if it's rebels you recently defeated, Just give any.

Aside from your weapons industry, your military is a joke compared to Nigeria.

I gave exaample how Nigeria shunned and risked going to war with neighbouring countries around SL to intervene and bring back a deposed government and the S.TUPID CraigBitch's excuse for SA's failure in CAR is that they respect international law. What a joke

we have mentioned them before from the boer war, ww1, ww2, border war.

angola we fought a conventional war verses angola, never lost a battle and seleka never beat us, we fought them to a stand still

And i pointed out that the west aka the true powers of west africa backed and supported you.

Donian007: @SAENGINE, has Joseph Kony said or showed any move to massively back M23 rebels agains MONUSCO? You guys need adequate intel/surveillance. Any news on Kony's stance?

The LRA is broken has been for some time, they nothing but bandits.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oarslb7-CYs

AwodwaGyanOniwe: @Andrewza
Naijapikidi is just pulling CHEAP SHOTS at you. I mean we have POSTED SEVERAL TIMES. How SA education system works and showed that. most people send their kids to MODEL C SCHOOLS. AGAIN IF HES INVITING US. HE MUST SHOUT "LOUD". THEN WE'LL BE READY TO EXCHANGE BLOWS.

I don't know it just seems like many of these nigerians fialed the comprension part of english, they can read but have no idea what it means, so maybe he really doese not know.