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truthbetold22:
Three takeaways from this

1- 10 545w panels and 5 650w panels cannot be on a 5kw mppt and you assume you got good service. That is just the installer maxing out the cc and leaving the rest to waste.

2- no one is spreading falsehood here, a copy of your chat was uploaded and you clearly said, from 15 holes, it is now only 2 that is leaking. If more holes of more leakage turn up, you have to reach out again and allow Zeestone fix it even though I realize that it is not entirely his fault and I ll explain below.

3- I am a building engineer. Wen working with aluminum roofing sheets, anything less than actual 0.45mm gauge is total rubbish and will create issues like this whenever anyone climbs the roof no matter how many. The sheets are so weak that even if you are very careful where you place your legs, wherever you walk on depresses and then shrinks and will not rise as it should. A proper 0.45mm-0.55mm gauge will not give this issues from my experience.

I am certain that @firethesun’s roof was installed by people who likely went for lower gauge aluminum thereby making Zeestone’s install way more difficult. I have experienced this many times. Roofers sell 0.35mm low quality as 0.45mm and the average home owner doesn’t know.

If you doubt me, @firethesun can get another roofer with a caliper to measure the gauge, he should then post pictures here.

You really should check your roof quality before accusing anyone.

EPOMA:
Please lets move on sir . Zee lets move on ooooo ,

Oshomo12:
Don't get me wrong, what I meant was that: during the initial installation not now o, when he said "he told you about it while your guys dey on top roof"

This was a pointer that u need to go slow and check on your guys.

That is IF HE COMPLAINS THEN.

I am crucifying you in any way. I understand it's 11months after and he never mentioned it until now.

Whenever clients complain or do somehow(watch out for their spouses) during installation or any work at all. Just relax that work and hear them out well well.

Oshomo12:
Wetin!!
I was off this thread by just 2days, and pages increased by how many again? Fire everywhere!

@Firethesun, I understand your pains, it's not palatable when you need to spend so much to rectify the damage.

@zeestone you should have paid more attention to his complaints about the roofing sheets, though this will slow your job down considerably, but will take care of this issue in the long run.

@truthbetold this your new response is far better than the previous ones. The moment he mentioned 0.55mm I knew within me that he was probably sold a lower gauge of roofing sheet. Cos 0.55mm can't be crashed that badly.

If you still have a piece of the roofing sheet, get a micrometer screewgauge and measure the thickness of your sheets.

Juror:
I can attest that zeestone99 takes care of issues or tries to compensate when issues arise, with products.

FireTheSun:
You know you have been posting and posting since yesterday and l am trying not to respond to those FALSEHOOD you are spreading, just because it is not in me to start this back-and-forth with you, on this matter.

If l should share our Chats the way you did, you will expose your lies by yourself.

But let me limit myself to the Picture in the attachment you posted.
the first picture shows a little, of one of the damages wherein you used your foot to squash the Aluminum Steptiles of the Roof. The depression can be seen in that picture! You destroyed the Roofing sheet by creating "puddles" everywhere you matched with your Feet, Five adults running riot on an Aluminum Steptiles Roofing.
Is that something that can be repaired by using a rubbery material to plug a hole (which is mostly what the Roofer you sent did, to plug Holes created by the indiscriminate Nailing you did on my Roof, causing leaks?

The Second Picture also shows water-soaked on my Suspended Ceiling! Many of them were condemned because they became soaked and buckled.
Did the Roofer you sent also replace such Ceilings, some of which fell down after soaking so much Water?
Yes, he tried his best and l confirmed that. After he left, there were still leakages, some of which we discovered later when we started seeing equipment soaked! All this are in the chart l sent to you.
My Tenant was also not around for sometime, and we did not know that the Roof on his side of the installation was damaged so much. Roofer did not know, could not identify or repair his side, when the Roofer you sent came.

Contrary to your belief, l felt you are wasting my time because l knew an irreversible damage has already been done to my Roof, from your incompetency!
I called the Roofer back a second time, but did not tell you.
I paid him #10,000 for that second Visit but that money was too inconsequential for me to call you over moreover, you are always giving me excuses of why you cant show up to visit and inspect the damage you caused. I have Proof of this, if you doubt it.

Due to the nature of damage (changing the contour of the ridges of the Roofing sheet , with your careless walking over it, making water run-off impossible, creating puddles everywhere, which later react with the Aluminum and create holes at that spot) and how widespread they are, l concluded l have no choice than to change them to new ones!
I dont want everybody in the neighborhood wondering why Roofers are always climbing my Roof every now and then, that can be embarrassing to me afteral, they would be wondering: if the Sheets are bad, why cant he just change them? No Roofer has climbed my Roof in the last four years, before you came.

The job l engaged you for, was to install 10 Panels, (just like engaged someone else to install 5 panels later), not to damage my Roofing and be telling me that you sent a Roofer to "plug the Holes created by your indiscriminate nailing and you paid for it"!
How come the other Installer l engaged to the the 5 Panels did not cause any damage to the Roof?

I even gave you Extra Money, apart from your charges and cost of items you supplied (which l said you should use to drink beer with your Boys), on completion of the work that day, do l deserve what l got in return?

I was not asking you for anything, when l made my post a few days ago, l did not even identify you but you were trying to play smart, by quickly identifying yourself, trying to seize the momentum, once you read where l said People can send me l private message, if they wanted to know the Installer who did the terrible job, but you then use that opportunity to lie and pretend like you did a wonderful job!

Well, if an Installer caused a problem running into Millions of Naira for a Client, just to install Ten Panels, can we say that Installer is a Professional or have we change the meaning of doing 'a Professional' job?

The most painful part in all these was that l was warning you, as you were doing the work, that the way you are walking carelessly on these Aluminum Steptiles Roofing sheet, you will damage it (even my wife was complaining about the same thing) but you said l should not worry, it cant be damaged! But you ended up damaging the whole Roofing Sheets,.

I am trying not to be pushed into uploading pictures of your terrible work because it adds nothing to me.
But l dont like all these white washing you are doing here.
Leaking and damaged Roofing sheets should not be the End Result of the job l gave you, irrespective of whether you sent a roofer back to assist in plugging some of those Holes.
The Crushed Roofing sheets cant be straightened back, so the DAMAGE you caused is permanent (and they keep leaking time, after time .... unless l change them, which l will, in a few weeks time.

if you want to know how the "Proper" Professional Installer l engaged, who did not cause a single damage, did the installation, including correcting the shoddy work you did, l can refer you to him, for some free lectures.

I am just restraining myself, l watched the pictures of the damages on my phone again, just now.
Its your Cross, you have proved your Competency and judged yourself to have done a "fine job", what else can l say.?

mctfopt:
What are they doing beside passing bills to help private individuals achieve this? There is this green energy incentive in some countries such as rebates, and discounts to lower the cost of a solar installation.

samnaija:
My brother he has said let it rest. Let it go.
But I Know you are a professional you even insisted on the advice you gave him earlier on getting an extra cc, which of my opinion makes better sense has the extra power is not utilized.

FireTheSun:
I want to believe you have your reasons for identifying yourself as the Installer. If you did not, you can bet l wont, it is not my style of correcting someone. But you have, so that burden is no longer on me.
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Now, I will MENTION and EXPLAIN a few things:

- How can you say: "we did a fine install but you had leaks"? (in the Roof, after your work)
Are Leakages in the Roof, (when l did not have them before you came to install), part of this "fine install"?

- How can l confirm to you that "we are good", when it has not rained, after the effort of the person you sent, and when you asked?
I confirmed to you that he came and did his job, "hopefully" the leakage would have been rectified, but that can only be determined after it rains again!

Yes, we had Leaks, even after his effort . Not because he did not do a good Job but because he can only do as much!
He was able to block some visible Nail holes but the damage was varied and widespread

The Roofer you sent tried his best (you should have brought along this Roofer with you, when you came to do the installation) but "Squashed" Aluminum Steptiles Roofing Sheets are impossible to be straightened up again after crushing it by walking on them without due care, anyone who had seen Steptiles Aluminum Roofing Sheets, knows this. We had Leakages from various Nail points as well..
I was "shocked" since that was my first experience of a Leaking Roof ( and angry" as well), though internally, l was blaming myself, for the choice l made.
I just decided to "learn the lessons" and concentrate effort to rectify the problem, as quickly as possible.

The "other side" could not have been repaired, when the Roofer you sent came to do the repair because, as of that moment, l never knew there were leaks on that side too (My Tenant was not around during that period when you installed the Panels on his side).

I did not say the "repairs" will cost over #2M.
What l said was that l will have to replace the Roofing Sheets with new ones, at over #2Million.
Replacement => Put in fresh Roofing sheets.
Repair => Call Roofer to be looking for Holes to plug.

But he cant push-back-out and straighten all the depressions caused by your Legs marching (carelessly) on the Steptile Aluminum Roofing Sheets, can he?.
Somethings, when damaged, can never go back to their original form, even after repair. What you do is replace them, if you want to go back to your initial state before the damage.
That is current state of the problem now.

When it rains, depending on the intensity of the rain, those "Foot Depressions" act like BOWLS, they store rain water and then when full, the Water overflows in a direction of least resistance, without following the grooves, (as it would have done in an undamaged Roofing Sheet) which can be anywhere on the roof!
Roofing sheets on a Roof are meant to have smooth grooves and slanted in a particular direction so that water flows down as it drops on it, without accumulating in "big depressions" created by squashing of 10 People's feet walking on the Roof .....without a care or as if it is made of Wood! I explained all these to you back then. I took pictures and sent them to you.

The Roofer you sent did try to "push-back-out" some of these Squashed Depressions on the Steptile Roofing Sheets, (from inside the Ceiling) but in most cases, they only got worse because Steptile Roofing Sheet are not supposed to be pushed in and out, due to the designs on them and the Depressions were just too many.

l am the sort of person that likes inconveniencing people, including my tenant, with a leaking Roof.
How does someone pay me premium Money for a House and he has to be collecting water in his Bedroom, Kitchen, etc, because the House Owner installed Solar Panels?
What l wont take, l wont do to others and l have promised him that once l am back in the country from my Travels, l will replace All the Roofing Sheets in that area that were depressed with your feet and leaking, with new ones.
By my estimate, it will cost over #2Million to complete the job. That is what l wrote.
If your intention is to contest the amount, then go and find out how much they sell a length of 0.55 gauge Aluminum Steptile Roofing sheet and multiply by how many will cover the area, (add accessories like Nails, Flyband, rent Ladder, etc to it and include workmanship).
Add the cost of damaged, suspended Ceilings to it (areas where the Water leaked unto the suspended Ceilings and they buckled, after getting soaked)

But l am sure you would have learned some lessons from that job, which is the crucial thing.

- Like not having too many people on the Roof, at the same time. Just the minimum required.
At that time you were doing my Installation, you had yourself and four other guys on my Roof a few times though most times, you were on the ground.! It was as if my Roof was being used as a 'teaching experiment'.
As you guys were working and walking around on the Roof, l could hear the sound of "Crushing of the Roofing Sheet", with each Step taken, as they were walking on it!
I am sure you remember how l was raising the Alarm that you guys will damage this Roof? The Crushing sound was so evident from inside the House! You kept assuring me nothing will happen and l believed you, against my instincts.
I want to believe such wont happen in the future, when you install for others.
Experienced Installers should know how to delicately walk on the Roof without Squashing the Aluminum Steptile Roofing Sheet, those things are kind of fragile.

Like l said, another installer (just Three people, only Two were on the Roof, One was Down) recently installed additional Five Panels (655W each) earlier this year, all the area he worked on, not a single leak and the rain has been brutal this year, so it is not about the material or style of Roof, it is just "inexperienced" Workmanship.

Remember you told me l have to buy another Inverter, if l were to add those New, Five Panels?
Well, we did not have to buy any other Inverter, the New Installer l engaged just re-arranged the whole configuration and it is pumping out Power mercilessly..
We are completely off-grid in the last four Months-plus and Electric Cooker, Washing Machine, Submersible Pumps, Freezers and all other Home appliances are under normal use, though we do stagger and Submersible Pump not to run around 2pm only.
Why did l mention this? It appears there is a "knowledge gap", when you told me l cant add those New Panels to the existing ones, unless l buy a Second Inverter (which l would have done, if you came that day as l had called Gennextechnologies office immediately).
You said you needed to run them New Panels separately on a separate Inverter, for them to work.
As God will have it, l did not have to buy another Inverter.

My aim, in not mentioning the identity of the Installer (which drew the ire of some people here), is to mention the problem so the installer or anyone in such position, can learn from such mistakes, without damaging the image or brand of such offending Installer. I have No Apology for that decision, that is who l am

I never raised the issue here, until l was "wowed" by the Installation of that many panels by @Chris and even at that, l still kept your identity PRIVATE, with someone abusing me over it!. Having worked for me and our discussions about 'Unilag', you obviously knew, as an elderly person, exercising control over one's anger, even when l feel offended, is not unusual, would l ask you to come and replace the Roof that was damaged? (I remember explaining the issue of "vicarious liability" to you, on phone)
Being Vindictive, is not one of my attributes moreover, l passed those stages, a long time ago, l dont know who my own grown-up children will meet, in far flung places.

I hope this brings Closure to the whole matter, now that the Installer has identified himself.

FireTheSun:
I want to believe you have your reasons for identifying yourself as the Installer. If you did not, you can bet l wont, it is not my style of correcting someone. But you have, so that burden is no longer on me.
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Now, I will MENTION and EXPLAIN a few things:

- How can you say: "we did a fine install but you had leaks"? (in the Roof, after your work)
Are Leakages in the Roof, (when l did not have them before you came to install), part of this "fine install"?

- How can l confirm to you that "we are good", when it has not rained, after the effort of the person you sent, and when you asked?
I confirmed to you that he came and did his job, "hopefully" the leakage would have been rectified, but that can only be determined after it rains again!

Yes, we had Leaks, even after his effort . Not because he did not do a good Job but because he can only do as much!
He was able to block some visible Nail holes but the damage was varied and widespread

The Roofer you sent tried his best (you should have brought along this Roofer with you, when you came to do the installation) but "Squashed" Aluminum Steptiles Roofing Sheets are impossible to be straightened up again after crushing it by walking on them without due care, anyone who had seen Steptiles Aluminum Roofing Sheets, knows this. We had Leakages from various Nail points as well..
I was "shocked" since that was my first experience of a Leaking Roof ( and angry" as well), though internally, l was blaming myself, for the choice l made.
I just decided to "learn the lessons" and concentrate effort to rectify the problem, as quickly as possible.

The "other side" could not have been repaired, when the Roofer you sent came to do the repair because, as of that moment, l never knew there were leaks on that side too (My Tenant was not around during that period when you installed the Panels on his side).

I did not say the "repairs" will cost over #2M.
What l said was that l will have to replace the Roofing Sheets with new ones, at over #2Million.
Replacement => Put in fresh Roofing sheets.
Repair => Call Roofer to be looking for Holes to plug.

But he cant push-back-out and straighten all the depressions caused by your Legs marching (carelessly) on the Steptile Aluminum Roofing Sheets, can he?.
Somethings, when damaged, can never go back to their original form, even after repair. What you do is replace them, if you want to go back to your initial state before the damage.
That is current state of the problem now.

When it rains, depending on the intensity of the rain, those "Foot Depressions" act like BOWLS, they store rain water and then when full, the Water overflows in a direction of least resistance, without following the grooves, (as it would have done in an undamaged Roofing Sheet) which can be anywhere on the roof!
Roofing sheets on a Roof are meant to have smooth grooves and slanted in a particular direction so that water flows down as it drops on it, without accumulating in "big depressions" created by squashing of 10 People's feet walking on the Roof .....without a care or as if it is made of Wood! I explained all these to you back then. I took pictures and sent them to you.

The Roofer you sent did try to "push-back-out" some of these Squashed Depressions on the Steptile Roofing Sheets, (from inside the Ceiling) but in most cases, they only got worse because Steptile Roofing Sheet are not supposed to be pushed in and out, due to the designs on them and the Depressions were just too many.

l am the sort of person that likes inconveniencing people, including my tenant, with a leaking Roof.
How does someone pay me premium Money for a House and he has to be collecting water in his Bedroom, Kitchen, etc, because the House Owner installed Solar Panels?
What l wont take, l wont do to others and l have promised him that once l am back in the country from my Travels, l will replace All the Roofing Sheets in that area that were depressed with your feet and leaking, with new ones.
By my estimate, it will cost over #2Million to complete the job. That is what l wrote.
If your intention is to contest the amount, then go and find out how much they sell a length of 0.55 gauge Aluminum Steptile Roofing sheet and multiply by how many will cover the area, (add accessories like Nails, Flyband, rent Ladder, etc to it and include workmanship).
Add the cost of damaged, suspended Ceilings to it (areas where the Water leaked unto the suspended Ceilings and they buckled, after getting soaked)

But l am sure you would have learned some lessons from that job, which is the crucial thing.

- Like not having too many people on the Roof, at the same time. Just the minimum required.
At that time you were doing my Installation, you had yourself and four other guys on my Roof a few times though most times, you were on the ground.! It was as if my Roof was being used as a 'teaching experiment'.
As you guys were working and walking around on the Roof, l could hear the sound of "Crushing of the Roofing Sheet", with each Step taken, as they were walking on it!
I am sure you remember how l was raising the Alarm that you guys will damage this Roof? The Crushing sound was so evident from inside the House! You kept assuring me nothing will happen and l believed you, against my instincts.
I want to believe such wont happen in the future, when you install for others.
Experienced Installers should know how to delicately walk on the Roof without Squashing the Aluminum Steptile Roofing Sheet, those things are kind of fragile.

Like l said, another installer (just Three people, only Two were on the Roof, One was Down) recently installed additional Five Panels (655W each) earlier this year, all the area he worked on, not a single leak and the rain has been brutal this year, so it is not about the material or style of Roof, it is just "inexperienced" Workmanship.

Remember you told me l have to buy another Inverter, if l were to add those New, Five Panels?
Well, we did not have to buy any other Inverter, the New Installer l engaged just re-arranged the whole configuration and it is pumping out Power mercilessly..
We are completely off-grid in the last four Months-plus and Electric Cooker, Washing Machine, Submersible Pumps, Freezers and all other Home appliances are under normal use, though we do stagger and Submersible Pump not to run around 2pm only.
Why did l mention this? It appears there is a "knowledge gap", when you told me l cant add those New Panels to the existing ones, unless l buy a Second Inverter (which l would have done, if you came that day as l had called Gennextechnologies office immediately).
You said you needed to run them New Panels separately on a separate Inverter, for them to work.
As God will have it, l did not have to buy another Inverter.

My aim, in not mentioning the identity of the Installer (which drew the ire of some people here), is to mention the problem so the installer or anyone in such position, can learn from such mistakes, without damaging the image or brand of such offending Installer. I have No Apology for that decision, that is who l am

I never raised the issue here, until l was "wowed" by the Installation of that many panels by @Chris and even at that, l still kept your identity PRIVATE, with someone abusing me over it!. Having worked for me and our discussions about 'Unilag', you obviously knew, as an elderly person, exercising control over one's anger, even when l feel offended, is not unusual, would l ask you to come and replace the Roof that was damaged? (I remember explaining the issue of "vicarious liability" to you, on phone)
Being Vindictive, is not one of my attributes moreover, l passed those stages, a long time ago, l dont know who my own grown-up children will meet, in far flung places.

I hope this brings Closure to the whole matter, now that the Installer has identified himself.

samnaija:
Thanks for the enlightenment , it is an eye opener. Two sides to a story. It takes a true professional to speak out. You even paid for the repairs you try..

FireTheSun:
Waoh!
Nice, Professional job you have done up there! I envy this install, just looking at it right now.

Unlike what an Installer on this thread, did to my Roof when l asked that he install just Ten Units of Panels on my Roof.
This installer and his Team so damaged my Roof that at the end of the day, l am considering buying NEW Aluminum Steptiles Roofing Sheet to cover the whole area those Panels were installed.

My Roof has never leaked since about Six years l built this particular Storey building, l live in this one so l know it has never experience a leakage but after the installation, it has been multiple leakages here and there.
The Team of Installers just use their feet to crush the Aluminium Roofing Sheets, causing big depressions everywhere.
I have had Roofers try to plug the leakages created but getting the Depressions to "push back up and normalize" is a daunting task, as the damage was just too extensive.
I have concluded l have to replace all those areas where the Panels are located, and their surrounding Sheets as well.
Imagine incurring a damage of over #2M, in the course of a job of less than #100,000?

It is a lesson to me, to always check the previous work of an installer, seek reference from previous Clients, before giving out a job
Hobbyist or Sellers should stop claiming to be Professional Installers.

BTW: I have since added Five more Panels (655W each), to the other Side of the Building's Roof, done by another Installer and without any issue from that side.

nickyvil:
Part-01
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1n_bVmiHFZVGBKP-6bI3hvuqytxoykh_Q?usp=sharing

With this link I sent, you should be able to learn within 2month if you can dedicate your time and this study is the simplest form you can learn from. Its a course and practical.. Beginner

vandetta:
Good morning FAM,


Please, can someone help me with a cost estimate to install a 5Kva Solar Inverter??

Capable of carrying the TV, Refrigerator, AC, etc

earthrealm:
NAAAAAAAH, mek we enjoy small rofo rofo fight , it yaff tey naah, we usually have such skirmishes every 10 to 15 pages, the last skirmish don tey small .

durodee:
A general question to Lithium users with generic/medium level inverters or Cc without dedicated Lithium profile:
If the battery gets depleted at night and the BMS kicks in to shut discharge down, how do your Cc/inverter picks up when the sun rises in the morning? As most Ccs and inverters have battery as their priority power supply to function?
Is there another way to prevent this than manual shutdown on inverters without modifiable LVD levels?

durodee:
Some clarifications please:
Does it have
1)adjustable parameters especially level of LVD?
2) Lithium profile especially Pylontech?
I will be happy to see the spec sheet too

Thanks

dollarnaira:
How are u so sure the one he bought wasn't even pwm disguised as mppt hybrid. Still suspecting his hybrid.

Jefferyzz:
My budget no carry epever. Nah y I dey look for 90-100k type

Jefferyzz:
I just checked the datasheet of this. Is it's 15-95vdc input n 100vdc max for 12v. My pv is 131vdc

chris81964:
It is going down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn9QC_ott4k

Jefferyzz:
Yh. I'm planning on getting this. Which charger controller under 100k that can handle 130vdc do you recommend.

litaninja:
My good people. Please I need epp o.

After 2 years of constant power supply with my MPPSolar 3024GK, it developed a fault about a month ago. I've been out of town receiving alerts from my telegram bot and HomeAssistant jeje when all of a sudden 9th of June everything went silent. LOL. Apparently there was some heavy rain during the might and there may have been a power surge since some PHCN meters and DCB breakers tripped in the neighbouring flats as well.

Now my MPPsolar has a 32! error warning (manual says its a remote display communication error) and an F09 error (manual says its a soft bus start error).

Luckily, I have another 3024 planned for a separate installation (awaiting funds) sitting somewhere and I've borrowed it for the time being.

Manufacturer says to replace main board and display unit and they've sent the bill, but I will like to know if anyone can refer an actual service centre or correct technician that can handle this hybrid inverter BEFORE i commit dollars

I should be able to reach a service centre or if anyone personally can refer a technician at Arena make i breeze enter there.

Pls help oooo, I cannot become PHCN sacrifice!

cc Bigrovar Ojeysky McTrinity Mctfopt Earthrealm zeestone99

monchazfarms:
Good day wonderful people. I've been a silent follower of this page and feel so lucky to be here. I need advice and help on two different set ups:

1. A set up that can power the following devices:

*3 1HP LG inverter ACs
*150W LED Television
*1 LG washing machine
*200W inverter freezer
*100W LED bulbs
*180W fan

2.A set up that can power the following devices:

*1 1HP LG inverter AC
*60W LED Television
*100W inverter freezer
*120W fan
*60W LED bulbs

Kindly assist with a very good system and protection that'll stand the test of time and I don't mind using lithium battery for both installations. Also, both set ups are with solar panels. All contributions will be highly appreciated. Thank you.

durodee:
Please I need a medium sized 48v inverter. 2.5-3.5kva range. Sellers in the house kindly quote me. It doesn't matter whether hybrid or transformer based.
Thanks

FireTheSun:
He must be referring to the "Alaba-Made type" of Canadian Solar, l guess perhaps

I am an End User, l a not selling anything, not Panels, not Inverters, so l dont need to pad-up any information here because l have no benefit from hyping a second rate Solar Panel, unlike those who do so, because that is what they have in store to sell.

Only a few sellers here, can anyone take their word or product recommendation seriously, majority will tell you that what they have in Stock is the best, even when they know that is not true! We know them by their past antecedents.

Original Canadian Solar Panels are still the best in the market.
There is a reason why Companies with Tradition, try to protect their Named Product and even go to court to protect any copyright or registered name infringement, it is because they have put in a lot of Effort, Money, Research and Development, to get their products to the level it is and that is why our Alaba Sellers want to produce a Counterfeit Version of it.