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EPOMA:
Please why is that

Many reasons, both controllers might not necessary need to pull the same amount of current because the battery will limit what gets in as controller b will just add the remaining current controller a didn't complete. Also The efficiency of panels, angle, cables and many more can cause it. You can swap controllers and see how it performs.

durodee:
interesting. I have the 2 CCs (60amps type) connected to the same bank 48v bank. Solar panels connected to them are in in the same place, same distance to the CC and yet the Epever CC always showed a marginal harvest than the pfangpusun. Internal calibration issues? just wondering.

Even if you use 2 unit of epever or fangpusun (same brand/model), one will always get more harvest.

adrusa:
I had a sad experience with the Morningstar MPPT Charge Controller. Two got destroyed in my early solar years because of battery disconnect issue. I swore for them since then. They appear to be the only one with that problem since I never had that issue with any other charge controller.

Once you do mistake of going a bit higher than 150v or the battery disconnect. The next thing is to check your bank account balance for replacement .
Very notorious controller.

samir101ng:
I place Hyundai in the same category of products from manufacturers like LG, Sunpower, Panasonic, REC.

Premium solar panels with high efficiency but at a COST. Do they even have a reseller here in Nigeria ? I believe you will have to import them directly per crate which will come at another premium. For now sha, my top 2 panels in Nigeria Jinko Solar (Palette) and Trina Solar (solarpoweretal) who both have authrorised dealers in the country and sell panels above 500W in capacity. They are also both rater Tier 1 with high efficiencies above the 21% range.

We always get premium solar panels from time to time. I really don't post much cos they really go out of stock in a short while.
For now we have Qcells 340watts and 365watts brand new. Limited quantity

samir101ng:
Hehehe E dey enter your eye abi. Morning Star dey chook your eye abi. @Zeestone1 we have a propective convert o !

I faced this same issue early in my research. Morning Star has now added all the other bells and whistles you might need to their refreshed charge controller lines and now have expanded their inverter range. My only issue with their inverter range is the lack of a 5kva 48v product. Their 48v inverter range tops out at 2.5kva which is a little too small for my energy needs. The Solax X1 G4 Hybrid inverter is topping my list right now. And a Morning Star setup of inverter and charge controller is going to be too expensive in my opinion for the 2.5kva inverter power you will be getting. Of course the GenStar 100amp charge controller is going to be a solid investment for those with large battery banks with brand agnostic inverters.

E b like we go sell ticket for all Dem new converts. Hw mch mk we put the ticket.

samir101ng:
Even me sef my blood don dey hot .

I have attended several Morning Star webinars now, read some of their whitepapers and even contacted them on warranty issues. Their high engineering standards and the way they overbuilt the designs on their products made me fall in love with it. Add to it the fact that their products are used in industrial applications with several certifications reassured me on their use. At the time my only issue with them was lack of Bluetooth/wireless, 60amps instead of 100amps and their software support was not as good looking nor interactive like Victron. Plus they had no inverter line of products that one can integrate their charge controller into. Things have changed now for the better. Victron still has a far more robust ecosystem and inter connectivity amongst its products but Morning Star has made a huge leap forward to catch up. Please for those who do not know, Victron & Morning Star are the German cars of charge controllers and inverters. America & Europe. Their prices also reflect those high quality.

I don't want peace. I need to scatter this romance

NiyiOmoIyunade:
Good news all around!

I used to be somewhat of a MorningStar fan boy before porting to Lithium and leaving them behind (tearfully) because they had limited support for Lithium chemistries and poor handling of battery disconnects

However, these products or concepts from MorningStar are not so new, they have had a 300w SureSine inverter for some years now and even demoed their bigger inverters in Nigeria (@Richmond had a few units to test I believe). Also they have had a 600v 60a Charge controller that could be parallel stacked with little extra equipment (same as their standard 150v/60a CCs) so fairly ahead of Victron in that area.

Just to set the right base as we evaluate how far they have come.

You hear morning star now, see as your adrenaline pumped up... If I catch u and morning star

DamianX:
Hello pros in the house. What is the recommendation and what will it cost me to power and ultrawide monitor, CPU, led light bulbs, speakers, PS5, charge gadgets, Basically a home work station for atleast 16 hours when there is an outage. The power condition here is good just that sometimes total blackout can last for 3-5 days so I want a backup solar system that will serve me through my daily activities.


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mctfopt:
Why do Nigerians hide the very thing that could be a deal breaker in a deal? What happens to stating the true nature of the item allowing the buyer to decide to buy or not? Must everything be scammy in nature? Dang. I tire.

It's bad tbh.

adrusa:
Anyone trying to buy this from this guy should be careful and do their due diligence.
I just wasted 10K trying to buy it only to realise that the inverter is not functioning and will need to be repaired.
I contacted the guy and we agreed on a price. I then sent an installer to go and test the inverter and bring it back to Ibadan for me. That is when the story changed. It was a good thing that I sent an installer who asked for a test, a different person could have brought a non-functional inverter back home for 450K.

People who are part of this fraternity need to be upfront about the condition of whatever they are selling, otherwise it will look like a scam.

This is bad. Let's hear from the other party.

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kiekie1:
Salient point Brotherly!

Observe we've reduced number of old members applying time & energy to type type type these days

Save yourself stress & type a few .. Many talk no dey full basket for farm tho "it requires regular planning et hardwork" ..

Naso chief.

zeestone99:
So in essence you want everyone to be like you. Channel that energy across all sectors, from banking, oil and gas, telecoms etc. It's not this one you will single out a select few and start telling them they are inflating price blablabla whereas most of y'all are enjoying the benefits of inflation of price in your workplace.

I have access to corporate documents and I know what is being quoted there.
You don't dictate how one should sell his or her wares because no one will compell you to buy.
I can get a plate or decent meal in an eatery for maybe 3k/4k and I might not also get a plate of that same food for 10k in another eatery. Nobody will force you, patronize what you can afford.

If you go to the market you will find several prices and you will choose the one that suits you.
Buying cheap don't necessarily mean you got the best deal, many times I buy stuffs at higher prices than I have seen elsewhere. It's not because I'm stupid or I have moni to lavish, I could get some extra benefits later when the need arises. It could be anything from consultations, credit, aftersale service etc.
If a price is too expensive, you have the option to try other sellers, go to the market physically or something.

ceaser:


Bro sincerely I did not avoid it ó. I just didn't want to do the calculation for you as (I no want rack my brain too much). That is why I based my point on Valto making his price point revolve around direct experience with purchases and procurement as compared with someone who just bought off of another and decide to slap an arbitrary price.

Besides asides from the fact that I have a rough idea of the price setpoint for DIY LFP, the internet is there to compare prices. So if anyone inflates, people doing due diligence will quickly decipher the difference.

But if you insist, your profile fits into my radius of patronage price-wise and quality wise. At least for instance we know the history of Valto's sources of cells and also for a few other DIYers here who package cells and that is enough to set minds at rest. It's just that I haven't needed to get cells of late.

But even if I go buy from you, just know that as is customary, I won't go down without fighting haggling.




Well, I'm glad I don't have a log in my eyes before opting to clear the speck in my brother's eye. That actually is my philosophy

So for ya information, I don't inflate arbitrarily, for it is to me an antisocial attitude. You must have read here before that I have some businesses which I somehow invested solar power supply in, a few shops being one of such and managed by wify.

So I'm glad to tell you that in line with my principle of not being selfish and a price gouger, every item in that place is strategically made to be cheaper for radius of kilometers around. This increases patronage. These discounts isn't gonna ruin the business, but it motivates patronage nevertheless and guess what, the profit from the turnover makes up for the discounts on items. Not just that, I encourage that they accept returns when customers complain about items and with such people, an arrangement or agreement is reached where both parties do not feel cheated.

People around say to my wife that this is easy for her to do because as they put it, she does not feed with proceeds from the business. But I daresay that it's all about being principled rightly.

I also have a few employees and I also make it a duty to be fair to them in remuneration, and I am truly happy with myself and with my conscience.

It's a social responsibility to be fair in pricing, not price gouging like many will want to justify. So I can boldly judge what a fair price should be.

So in essence you want everyone to be like you. Channel that energy across all sectors, from banking, oil and gas, telecoms etc. It's not this one you will single out a select few and start telling them they are inflating price blablabla whereas most of y'all are enjoying the benefits of inflation of price in your workplace.

I have access to corporate documents and I know what is being quoted there.
You don't dictate how one should sell his or her wares because no one will compell you to buy.
I can get a plate or decent meal in an eatery for maybe 3k/4k and I might not also get a plate of that same food for 10k in another eatery. Nobody will force you, patronize what you can afford.

earthrealm:
You made valid points.
However this issue of insane profits may not be true at all times.
Example a 280ah brand new grade a eve cell is about 110usd in china...add freight of about 15usd to 20usd per cell ,plus 2 to 5months duration before you get the cells. +Risk of total loss, should anything happen to the ship in the high seas, the forwarder will likely not offer any repayment+ flunctuating value of naira vs dollar

1. Question 1 -- what do you think is a fair price to sell that 1 cell in naira?

2. Question 2--- if you go ahead to build a battery pack with 16 pieces of these cell+bms+ decent metal case etc, to give u 14kwh pack. How much do you think is a fair price.

Many people want to judge what a fair price should be but are gainfully employed in companies that inflate prices when dealing with their clients or get government contracts at over inflated prices.

microgiant:
Sorry boss, for mentioning your name, but I never said you sold any fake or substandard Lithium Battery to any body.

I was just giving an example, because the Lithium journey on this thread started with some coupling 18250 cell and posting the pictures. So people found out there were already coupled batteries on sale, and requested if the sellers could not make it available. One seller hinted that he is experimenting on one at the time, and asked people to hold on. He was disappointed and came back to tell people to forget about it. He NEVER SOLD any of the batteries.

Noted chief

microgiant:
It is quite sad to note that most electronics and automobiles being sold in Nigeria (also East & West Africa) are substandard. Nigeria does not have an effective monitoring system. This became quite prevalent when electronics and parts started coming from Taiwan, then later China. LG have different products for Africa (especially West/East), and Japan recently joined in the party. Are you aware that despite the digital switch over from analogue to digital TV, most latest LED HD UHD TVs being sold (even by LG & Samsung) in Nigeria come with analogue tuners? A country like Australia has a pan Australian Warranty of 2-years. Irrespective of you giving warranty on not, once an electrical or electronic item develops fault under 2years post purchase, you either replace for the buyer or make full refund. Have you ever heard that vehicles were recalled in Nigeria because of factory fault/defects. It is one of the reason most people prefer to buy American used vehicles and those who can afford purchase new cars from there and ship to Nigeria.

The same applies to packaged LIFEPO4 batteries from China. I remember around 2015/16 a seller (can't remember if it was Zeestone) here wanted to sell packaged LIFEPO4, he was disappointed after testing the sample.

I never sold any repackaged lifepo4 battery. I sold meritsun and narada. Why mention what you are not sure of?

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Urheadmaster:
These kid needs urgent brain surgery


So your father shouldn't attend to his own mother's needs

Gen z

toyeoye:
Good morning. What do you think about this setup for 5kva.
Just your honest thoughts , thank you very much

There might be a reason why your installer is going the 24v route. 24v systems are less prone to battery failure than the 48v. You will need to compensate for that by installing higher amperage mppt controllers. In most cases two units or more depending on how large the system is. Just go back and do your assignment on the panels and controller size.

seunny4lif:
Watching for Saudi women to start their own because Saudi women case worst pass anything .
But wait ooooh, don’t same Muslim women protested in China, western countries for not allowing them to wear Hijab because because a good Muslim woman must cover her head

This people are confused, I swear

One similarity is people don't like being told what to do.

EPOMA:
China May Find It Hard to Cool Lithium’s Rally This Time Around
Prices taking out records in China as market stays tight
The latest industry meeting won’t help short term: BNEF
ByAnnie Lee
September 23, 2022 at 12:00 AM GMT+1


Scorching gains for lithium, a raw material vital for powering electric vehicles, threaten to push costs even higher for Chinese battery makers, and the government is finding itself powerless to do anything about it.

Even after a meeting last week where Chinese authorities pleaded with major producers to stabilize prices, lithium carbonate surged to a fresh record, rising to 500,500 yuan ($70,716) a ton. In yuan terms, that exceeds the level prevailing when Tesla Inc.’s Elon Musk called prices “insane” earlier this year.

Seems battery price will continue to go up

With our useless exchange rate. We are so at the receiving end .

ceaser:
Nice one.

But no fan?!

While this being an improvement over the earlier model is desirable, I will say that the absence of a cooling fan is rather a step lower for a device with 190v VoC. The use of cooling fins in these things usually make the sizes larger than average and I'm not really a fan of that.

The fans in the previous model is not known to fail prematurely, at least with experience for about three years now, and that fan does a pretty good job at keeping the device within operating temperature. So beyond the fact that this improved model has a claimed VoC of 190 (which may even be debatable) giving the fact that the previous model with a claimed VoC of 150v only allows around 125v in reality, I personally may not be too enthusiastic to upgrade to it.

Perhaps the only things that may make me to be excited about upgrading to it from the existing working model that I have is if the VoC is around 250v and there is BT capability or remote monitoring capability. I also hope in this model they have addressed the incorrect current display problem of the old model.

This is my personal opinion though.

But for a fact, new entrants into the solar journey will do well starting with this new model especially if they can afford it.

Be ready to pay o. Hope you are ready.

To be honest I won't do above 140v. Might experiment Soon up to 180v. infact Lemme call oga niyi to experiment sef .

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Barezzi:
I got that picture from one of my contacts... I hope to attend the next one.

Ok boss

Barezzi:
Trying to locate Niyi…

Baba give us update na.

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