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omoelesa:Oh really? But when Igbos left in 1967, you Nigerians came to fight to bring us back into Nigeria. We Igbos are now to preparing leave for the second time and I'm sure you people will fight agan to keep us. I take pity on you Nigerians, you people cannot do without Igbos |
susanokopi:[b] Are we discussing the UN here or are we talking about the right of the Igbos to have their own country? You may not believe this but there was Igbo land long before there was any UN or Nigeria. But no matter how much you want to validate Nigeria, it is still the right of the Igbos to decide if they are Nigerians or not. Trust me, it is not for Lord Lugard to come and make you and I Nigerians. It is for us as a people to decide if we want to be so. Igbos do not want to be Nigerians, they already fought a war to prove this. BTW, you said that Igbos cannot create a country within Nigeria? Try not to be so myopic and stupid. Go and look at the map of South Africa, you will see a completely different country inside South Africa called Lesotho. Monaco is an independent sovereign nation inside France, San Marino is country inside Italy, Swaziland is another indepedent country inside South Africa. So what your whole argument about? Nigerians and their baseless argument for holding on to Igbos [/b] |
susanokopi:Ojukwu may have bragged, but at least he fought. I don't think you what a coward is. A coward is someone who is too afraid to fight. At least you know Ojukwu fought. Right now, it might be just Internet bragging to you, but when the fight starts, I wonder why anyone would be surprised? The only pitiful thing here are people like you who cannot do without Igbos. People who just can't let Igbos go. I feel you guys, but unfortunately, we Igbos don't feel you guys back so go and feel for someone else, maybe the Hausas |
bashirolu:So now you agree that the UN can interfere in another country? Your argument has now changed to if its about secession or not? Is it actually novelty for you to hear that a country broke up? Czechoslovakia broke up into Czech Republic and Republic of Slovakia in 1992. East Timor broke away from Indonesia 10 years later in 2002 as the Republic of Timor-Leste. The USSR,Yugoslavia all broke up. Even Britain that created Nigeria nearly broke up last year. So what's this argument all about? If the Igbos do not want to be part of this 'Lord Lugard created mad house' called Nigeria, who is anybody to tell them otherwise? |
eneidoko:Newsflash !! All of us were held at gun point and forced to be Nigerians by the British. Before the White man came, we were not together. By this act of 'forceful unification', Nigeria is an illegal entity. Nations are created by the free will of the people and not "by force". |
susanokopi:Tell your Nigerian Government to turn its armada against Boko Haram and Shekau. Shekau isn't hiding, he is in Sambisa. Tell your Nigerian Army to go and wipe him and his men out before you start dreaming of how you can fight the Igbo nation of over 40 million people. Tell us the name warship Nigeria had in 1969. Yes there was a Nigerian navy and Airforce but what did they have? What Jetfighter did the Nigerian Airfoce use to bomb Biafran towns? Everybody knows it was Egyptian pilots that did this. You're just a deluded person B |
eneidoko:You think that Nigeria is no longer under colonial rule? Nigeria is pretty much still under colonial rule. The only difference is that the colonial masters are no longer white men. This talk about the UN not having any mandate to interfere in the domestic affairs of a nation is nonsense. We have seen UN backed resolution see interference in Iraq,Afghanistan and a few years ago in Libya which removed Gaddafi. But UN or no UN, no one can enforce the Igbos to stay in Nigeria against their will. If Nigerians believe they have the right to hold Igbos back (because Lugard told them so), then they should not be surprised when Igbos fight a war to be free. |
otr1:We are not looking for people's support, we are demanding our God given right to be free. We were free before Lugard came, Lugard has gone back home, it's time for us to be free again. If Nigerians say the Igbo man will not be free, then Nigerians should not be surprised if war comes. |
susanokopi:[b] You are not ashamed of your self and this silly write up? Which warship did Nigeria have in 1967 to enforce a blockade? Does Nigeria even have any standard Warship to this very day? You think blockades are enforced with canoes and speed boats? Get it into your Skull that the reason Nigeria won the war was the British Warships that could stop ocean liners from from bringing in arms. You called Ojukwu a coward but I asked you to tell me any other man in Nigeria who has fought Nigeria and held them for 3 years. You cannot answer. You are praising your Nigerian Army that could not defeat the Niger Delta militants and cannot defeat Shekau. You're not even ashamed that the Nigeria you are defending, which is just a fictitious creation of the White man, has caused the unnecessary death of milions of people. This is the history you are proud of. This is the country of your dreams. You're a disgrace |
otr1:People shouting Biafra do not represent Igbos? Really? So why you concerned about Biafra then? Biafra is not about senators and Reps, these people are just common rogues in Abuja. They are the ones who will never want Biafra to come so they can stealing in Abuja. Biafra is about the common man. If you do not like the threats and insults, then join the campaign for Igbos to leave Nigeria as Biafrans or you shut up and take the insults. |
otr1:The Biafran struggle is not about Kanu, he is just just one piston in the engine of the Biafran movement. |
olasmith10:Only a coward ever asks this sort of question. There must be repercussions for this act of terrorism by the Nigerian Police on defenceless civilians. Heads must roll for this! Killing people just for holding peaceful Biafran rally thereby depriving the people their constitutionally guaranteed right to free association and free speech. If Igbos pick up guns tomorrow, some people will start to ask why. |
otr1:Self determination is enshrined in the UN charter of which Nigeria is a signatory to. Any group of people within Nigeria or their representatives can approach the UN for a referendum (The UN can conduct or monitor a referendum). The UN can study the proposal and back it or reject it. The UN of course cannot conduct a referendum without the consent of the Government but it can agree in principle to do it if the permission is granted. We are at the stage of getting the UN to back the referendum. Several Biafran groups have submitted proposals. After we get the go ahead from the UN, we will now tackle the issue of getting the consent of Government which if not given will lead to all out war |
otr1:It is when Nigeria refuses to approve a UN backed referendum that war will come. Personally, I will be one of the first to enlist into the Biafran Army |
otr1:Igbos are currently in the UN seeking a referendum. Should a war come, regardles of who wins, the Igbos can never go back to Nigeria. It is impossible |
It could be a Tanker explosion or it could be the start of Igbo militancy |
otr1:thats the whole issue. If Nigeria has to be together by fighting wars and killing its citizens, then what is the point of Nigeria? Why not give a referendum to those who wish to go and and save countless lives from being wasted? We were not together before the White man came, but we must now fight and kill each in other to be together long after the White man has gone back home. I will like to see how the Nigerian army intends to defeat 35 million Igbos when they can't even defeat Shekau and his few thousand men in 5 years. |
Austin4lif:Dont decieve your self. What you see here is state sponsored terrorism. A situation where the Nigerian Government turned its guns on peaceful law abiding protesters. This could easily happen to you or any body and it doesn't even have to be about Biafra that you are protesting about. There is something called freedom of speech and expression which is enshrined in the contitution. This was brazenly violated in Onitsha. It doesn't matter what they do, with each of us they kill or maim, the justification for Biafra only gets stronger. RIP to dead, their names will be remembered for dying for their true father land, Biafra. We will honour their names with the restoration of Biafra from the Zoological Republic of Nigeria |
I wonder if there is a way to paint over a rusting roof with metallic paint so that looks new again. Not everyone has money to replace with stone coated roof or longspan aluminium |
[b]All of a sudden, Nairaland is a 'Yoruba platform' because a Yoruba man owns it. Next they will say LindaIkeji is an Igbo platform. Nairaland is open to all Nigerians and as long as Igbos are still part of Nigeria, we are entitled to use it just as much as anybody regardless of the ethnic group of the founder. Seun called it Nairaland not 'Yorubaland'. Yorubas can be a funny lot sometimes. Nairaland has become an international social media website of repute because of the input of Nigerians from all over but Yorubas now claim it because of the founder. The same goes for Lagos which was a separate crown colony and later capital of Nigeria and was turned into the economic centre of Nigeria as a result of the input (and tax money) of all Nigerians but a Yoruba man will say he owns it like he alone built it. This is the same Yoruba man who will turn around and be shouting 'one Nigeria'. We Igbos will keep using NL to keep propagating any message we want, Biafra or otherwise. The issue of Nnamdi Kanu coming to Nigeria is nonsense talk. You people want him to come back to a backward country like Nigeria where there is no rule of law, where the right of free speech is non existent? Why? To prove he is a brave man? That is stupidity. Kanu is helping the Biafran cause much better abroad than in a lawless country like Nigeria. You people only want him to come back so he can be arrested and paraded half unclad in front of the Nigerian press for your selfish amusement. The same Kanu was broadcasting Radio Biafra for six months this year inside Nigeria and only went back to London in June. The same man led a crowed of millions of Biafrans in Aba on 30th May. Kanu is not needed in Nigeria right now, he serves the cause of Biafra better abroad where he can freely broadcast and coordinate Biafrans better. Kanu has done much more from London to advance the cause of Biafra in a year than MASSOB and Uwazulike have done in 15 years. Uwazulikes approach to Biafra has only earned him ridicule,torture,imprisonment and the deaths of many MASSOB members because he fails to realise that Nigerians are too backward to appreciate anyone who observes the rule of law like him. If he had been more radical, Nigeria would have taken him more serious because radicalism is what Nigeria respects. Yorubas had better start accepting the fact that Biafra is coming and no amount of wailing, mudslinging or threats is going to stop us Igbos from breaking away from this 'cesspit of deceit' created by Lord Lugard which some of you call Nigeria [/b] |
It beats my imagination that a man like Murtala Ramat Mohammed still has,not just a place of honour on the 20 Naira note, but also has an International Airport and many other landmarks named after him. How is this possible? Or is it that no one cares about history any more? How can such a controversial character still be accorded such recognition? The sins of Murtala: 1] Led the counter coup and superviced the killing of over 300 fellow officers. Murtala led other northern elements (including the then Lt Buhari) to commit this murderous act in retaliation for what they tagged an "Igbo coup". For me,a coup plotter,wether Nzeogwu or Murutala has any place in history. It should also be noted that everyone who participated in the first coup were punished at the end of the war while Murutala and co who committed far worse atrocities got off scot-free. 2]Troops under Murtala's command committed genocide in Asaba when they entered the city at the start of the civil war. Over 700 defenceless civilians who came to welcome the federal troops were gunned down in cold blood. Wether this happend on Murutala's orders or not is immaterial. His troops killed people and he should bear responsibility for the conduct of his men. 3]Murtala,in direct contravention of orders and sound advice led thousands of Nigerian soldiers to their deaths trying to cross the river Niger (in 3 separate attempts) into Onitsha all in his vain attempt to increase his popularity. His troops would later be destroyed at Abagana and he was recalled from the war and sent to London while many of his men lay dead under the River Niger. 4]murtala came to represent the face of northern domination. He kicked out Gowon,seized power,retired everyone who was above him in rank and in one of the worst acts of military indecipline,he triple promoted himself from a one star Brigadier to a full 4 star General. Murutala was the first military officer to conduct a coup in other to take political power. Even Nzeogwu and co had no intention to take power for themselves. Murtala Mohammed was a failed soldier,a sociopath,mass murderer and accomplished coup plotter. Because of him,many people needlessly died. My question is this. What is the face of such a despicable man doing on the 20 Naira note? |
amakasul:[b] Ojukwu a coward? A man who took on the Northern oligarcgy, A man who fearlessly fought the might of Nigerian Army for 3 years? Who else do you know in Nigeria can do what Ojukwu did? The Only reason you call Ojukwu a coward is because he left Biafra two days before it collapsed. What would have been the point of him staying back to be slaughtered over a war that was almost at an end? Ojukwu was a lot of things but he was no coward at all. If you know about Ojukwus exploits in the Congo war, you would know what I mean. France supported Biafra but in a limited way. It was nowhere near the level of support that Britain gave Nigeria. The only reason Nigeria succeeded in that war was because of the British warships which enforced a blockade that prevented Ojukwu from importing arms and ammunition, essential supplies and food necessary for the war. If Britain had remained neutral, it would have been a different story. Should there be another war, this time, we are also going to use both gurreilla and conventional tactics, there won't be any frontline. It's the Nigerian Army that will later run away. If this so called 'Nigeria' is ready to kill millions in other to carry on this fraud of a nation, it will be clear that justice is on the side of Igbos for wanting Biafra [/b] |
wirinet:If Igbos had Biafra, would they need to build alliances for the presidency? |
wexyee:20 million? Oh! you mean just the Igbos in Lagos? |
QuotaSystem:[b]Of course we Igbos are not sovereign, that's what I've been saying, that our sovereignty has been stolen in the name of Nigeria. And we want it back. As for this question you keep asking, there is no such thing as the 'Niger Delta people' . What we have are tribes. The connection between two tribes could be strong or weak. If it is the choice of the Igbos to elect a leader through another tribe they feel they strong affinity with, then it is sovereignty freely given. It is not for Hausas and Yorubas to decide who should be the president of the Igbos. In essence, Nigeria is a fraud for denying people who wish to seek a common political destiny from doing so. If you say that a person or people don't have the luxury of coming or going as they please, what you have in effect said is that those people are prisoners. Your so called commander-in-chief only derives his just powers from the legitimacy of Nigeria as a nation. Since Nigeria is an illegal contraption of the White man, your commander-in chief is little more than a "fraud coordinator" [/b] |
QuotaSystem:Lol. You think you have a nation? You don't. Lord Lugard cannot come from Britain to give you a nation. The watchword here is sovreignty. If the Igbos, for any reason whatsoever, decide that they do not want to be part of Nigeria, then Nigeria has no business being with Igbos. The same thing goes for any minority in the SS and the Igbos. We can then move on to discuss the terms of 'disengagement'. Do you know why people fight wars? It because one person is fighting to to hold the sovereigty of another person. |
jarkbauer:Igbos are scattered all over Africa in huge numbers chasing on endeavour or the other. The first time I went to Cotonue, I thought I was in Enugu. Are you also going to ask Igbos in those foreign countries why they are there making money? Igbos go where there is money to be made, it doesn't mean they have to become citizens of those countries same as it doesn't mean that an Igbo man should be a citizen of Nigeria because he is based in Lagos or Kano |
QuotaSystem:[b]You are trying to turn what I said into a "Biafran agenda" but in your above answer exposes the weakness of your argument. Yes the egalitarian and republican nature of the Igbos cannot make them accept the political machinations of the Hausa/Yoruba alliance and that is a major reason why the Igbo man should not be in one country with these two groups. It's also a key reason why Nigeria does not work as a nation. As for the minorities in the SS, Igbos will always be a majority, wether in Nigeria or Biafra. The difference is that Biafra will not be a 'forced marriage' like Nigeria. It will be for the Ijaw man,Ibibio man,Ananag man etc to decide for themselves if they prefare the ills of Nigeria or the ills of Biafra or to agitate for their own individual nations. The only thing that the minorities should be aware of is that Igbos are not empire builders or overlords. We don't intend to emasculate anyone politically. If they fear Igbo domination, they should seek a different political arrangement or come to the Biafran negotiation table or stay in Nigeria.[/b] |
kuuljay:This thread is about Igbos and the presidential elections and I answered in that context. This is not a Biafran thread |
jarkbauer:Let me explain this way. Ghana is one of the largest countries in West Africa, in terms of population, with 28 million people and recently had a new president. The Igbos are a tribe of over 40 million people. Now as an Igbo man, I am wondering why I have to go through a Yoruba or Hausa man before I elect my leader? Because we are 'one Nigeria'? Who made us one? Lord Lugard the British thief? I think the loss of GEJ was a stark reminder that Igbo sovereignty is being stolen in the name of Nigeria. How can people still be dictating to a tribe of over 40 million people who their president will be? As an Igbo man I am angry, but not because GEJ lost, but because I know that I should not be in the same country with Yorubas and Hausas still dragging who will be my president |
stevecantrell:So you didn't hear about MASSOB long before GEJ became president? Doesnt matter if we are agitating for Biafra because of GEJ's loss or otherwise. The important thing here is that if Biafrans don't want to be with Nigeria, then Nigeria has no business being with Biafrans |
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