₦airaland Forum

bidemi12:
Who cares if MEND is doing it for Nigeria or themselves? The point is they are doing something. Will you fight for them? It would be nice for all to come together in one voice to fight for the same cause but good luck with that happening. We as human beings are inherently selfish anyway. Left to you come 2020 with the status quo beign the same, we will still be celebrating another 10 years of failure. At what point do you take action? And o yes!! I am fascinated with you. I am always fascinated with retards on NL and Nigeria In general. I am still trying to decipher how people like you exist. It is a scientific project for me now and I must get to the bottom of it. slowpoke

I understand your problem, and i sympathize with you.

I will tolerate the stench that has been dropping from your mouth up until you get your brain transplant. I heard you are now next on the transplant list.

But i promise not to be so nice afterwards. . . you hear. Pele.

bidemi12:
Let me get you right. are you saying Nigerians shouldn't fight because wars do not solve anything? you can use violence to jar people back to reality (like ziga, who is in a perpetual fantasy land), change the ideology of a state (russia, china, cuba) or wrestle your independence (USA). All we need is to identify what we are fighting for. personaly i think part of the reason we are the way we are is because our independence was handed over to us on a platter of gold. If you struggle and sweat for an objective you will value it more. historicaly, the end result of wars is not immediate but reveals itself overtime. Also, think of the Nigerian situation as that of a bully in school. until you stand up to that bully he/she will continue to ride you until forced to see otherwise. even if you stand up to him/her but do not win, that bully will think twice before approaching you in the future. that is why although i abhor the loss of life, i congratulate MEND on their bold venture. Those basterds in government must realize that no place will be safe for them.

Mr man,

What is your problem. What is your fascination with me or Nigeria LOL. You need to grow up because i'n not here to score points.

@Other people.

Violence can't solve anything in our current situation, because there is no unity of purpose amongst Nigerians. We all can see the way political issues are turned into religious or tribal issues, and we all fall for it.

MEND is obviously not fighting for Nigeria, so why should true Nigerians support them

This division is our biggest problem, and if the youths don't face that problem and refuse to be fooled by the usual talk of "because he is from this state, or he is too young, etc, he can't be our leader", then violence will result in multiple factions that will have their own selfish agenda which will be used by the same political leaders against themselves.

And it is always amusing that most Nigerians really want the same thing at the end of the day, but they attach useless conditions to the solution e.g he has to be from ND, or from the north or Igbo/Yoruba etc.

These leaders know we dont have one voice, and they know just how to trigger the division between us.

If we don't solve this Nigerian arrogance/ "my own is the best" problem, we aint going nowhere.
It is always funny because war advocates are always the ones who lose their face when action begins.

bidemi12:
I was waiting for that. My guy, I have fought in two wars. In afghanistan and Iraq. I fought in it because it was worth it for me and my family. It guaranteed my children and wife’s future. Educationaly, financialy and healthwise. Even if I had died, their future would still have been guaranteed. It was worth risking my life for. What guarantee is there that things would change if I fought and died for Nigeria? I have been to places and done things you can only close your eyes, cross your fingers and wish for. when i see the change in the mentality of nigerians and the willingness to fight i will do same. Not before. for now, with people like you in it, it is not worth it.slowpoke

Congratulations Mr. American.

Then shut up, because you really don't have anything at stake in Nigeria.

You have no love for Nigeria, you seem to be really bitter that you had to go fight for another country to become accepted there. And the smelly things coming from your mouth will not be in the interest of a lot of Nigerians.

Enu dun rofo.

bidemi12:
Useless fool, when you will never face facts. Do you see what happens when fools like you ignore core issues? it comes back to bite you in the arse like I earlier said. People are angry and morons like you are celebrating. Fool.

Mr Ediot.

My opinions are mine, and i don't understand why you should take it personally. Useless terrorist.

You are advocating violence from behind your computer screen. I'm sure the closest you have been to a weapon is when you are playing on ur playstation. Atoole osi. You better go cry to your mama and stop with your whining.

bidemi12:
i scanned and scanned the all the posts so far on this topic, yes all 23 pages, looking for any contribution from two of the most useless contributors on NL, TENSOR77 and ZIGA, on their views of this latest development from nigeria. shame no gree them contribute. This is what happens when people decide to ignore problems in any society. It comes back to bite you in the arse. Those basterds in abuja prefer to celebrate with our billions instead of reflecting on the state of the nation. much as i detest this new development, it will help to jar those basterds back to the reality on ground that all the fanfare will not distract nigerians from the truth. We are becoming a failed state. That the only people interested in the continued unification of the country are either looting the country blind, have business interests in the country or dont just know what the hell is going on. The sooner we face facts and consider the total overhaul of all institutions in Nigeria then war might be a viable and foreseable option in the near future. And dont say it is not possible. The signs are already manifesting.

You are a complete ignoramus for calling me out. the fact that i don't speak doesn't mean i have nothing to say. A lot of people have said exactly what i would have said already.

You were against celebrating our independence, so i believe you are happy about the bomb attack.

A lot of people here have said.it. the problem with Nigeria is us. Everybody can point fingers but like someone just posted. 90% of the people accusing will go into government and do no better than even Abacha. Most Nigerians are arrogant and un-accommodating. Why can't we "live and let live" That same arrogance is displayed in everything that comes out of Mr. Bidemi's mouth.

So, please keep my name out of your mouth. Shiorrrrr.

MaziUche0:
No one said a revolution would be easy or not painful. People need to get it through their heads that a revolution in an African country will be very bloody.

But through the ashes will arise a much stronger nation.

Go say that in Somalia.

Nigeria is not even united against a common enemy. We war amongst ourselves.

A "revolution" will result in massive unjustifiable loss of lives. A chance for one side to draw blood from the other.

be careful what you wish for bro.

Very soon bombings will proliferate all across the country.

Just the same way the kidnapings started.

bidemi12:
there is a difference between celebration and stupidity.

Na the thing wey d voices wey dey sing for your head tell you abi

I no blame you. na those voices i blame. shior, kelebe, tue.

truly:
Have fun with your celebrations
But remember in your prayers - the patients not being attended to by  Lagos striking doctors
                                                - the families living under siege in Aba
                                                - the fishermen in Niger Delta who have abandoned fishing because of incessant oil spillage
                                                - and the over 70m Nigerians who as usual will wonder where the next meal will come from

My guy. . . Nothin do you.

There is absolutely nothing wrong in your suggestion. We will pray for all the people who have suffered misfortunes. Amen!!! haleluyah!!!

Having fun doesn't mean we should forget our brothers. We should celebrate Nigeria, but remember our problems.

Everybody has problems. i have never met someone who didn't. But that doesn't mean you have to be miserable and negative for the rest of your life.

@OP

Nice idea. . . If we can talk about the bad characters we possess, we are halfway to making a positive change.

Unfortunately, it has been hijacked and turned into a mudslinging event. A lot of Nigerian's attitude of self importance (mine is better or more important than yours) is what continues to keep us disunited.

The aggressive, arrogant Nigerian spirit which has helped us achieve in times of difficulty and also in foreign lands is what keeps us from making progress.

bidemi12:
My God this fool is still around. people like you are the reason nigeria has not moved forward. they will never face reality, hide it and console themselves with bottles of beer. no wonder you like celebrating so much. N[b]o worry e go better. Abi? no your favorite saying?[/b]

Actually, those are the words i have for you. "e go better". You are the one who is filled with hate, anger and hopelessness. So, no worry. E go better. you hear.

truly:
Really?
Some people are committiing suicide
If you hunt around Nairaland you will see the story and pics of somebody who beheaded his 2 nieces to make money
A schoolbus with 15 children was taken by kidnappers yesterday - it is on CNN

So what has this got to do with celebrating independence or not?

truly:
Please tell me who is leading the way

My brother. . . That is exactly my point. We don't need one particular person to lead. We need more people to do something, no matter how small. . . and less siddon look analysts.

Everybody should lead the way in whatever way they can. One person can't fix our problems. GEJ can't, IBB, Ribadu, even Fashola by himself can't.

I used to think almost every Nigerian was hopelessly pessimistic, arrogant and filled with self pity.

But now, i realize there are a lot more Nigerians that see themselves as the tools for revival of Nigeria.

Am not talking about people who know how to identify why the work was not done, but True Nigerians who are not scared of getting into the dirt to ensure that the work is done. . .

People who don't just talk for the sake of opening their mouths, but people who are looking for ways to make positive change.

There is hope guys. One love. That is a reason to celebrate Naija.

bidemi12:
You de okay now, most de hungry but you de enjoy. why you no go celebrate. onward march jare. you too much joo. f.u.ck the rest of them. they dont know what the hell they are talking about. i hail you. The write up is no longer the truth but "pessimism". LOL

Na by force to drag people into your miserable existence.

If you are sad, you don't have to make other people sad. Selfish eeediot.

tensor777:
Really boy, you need to to read your post again and see puffed-up arrogance, pride and self-importance!
That has nothing to do with patriotism but a rather nasty nationalism of the kind leaders like Adolf Hitler espoused.
There is no country on earth that has developed by relying on mere natural resources rather than discipline, hard-work, skills,education and selfless service.
But if you are waiting for a messiah to transform Nigeria, rather than the citizens taking personal responsibility for that, you really must be living in cloud cuckoo land!

Those words have summed up the problems with Nigerians. Lots of people believe that there should be someone to serve them. So, everybody is waiting for magic to happen.

davidif:
WHAT HYPOCRISY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?? WHERE WAS I EVER BEING AN HYPOCRITE? I AM TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THIS THREAD ON A FORUM WHERE LOT MORE PEOPLE CAN HAVE ACCESS TO IT AND DISCUSS THIS CRITICAL ISSUE AND HERE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HYPOCRISY. WHERE WAS I EVER TALKING ABOUT HYPOCRISY? WHY DON'T YOU GO TO THE DICTIONARY AND LEARN WHAT HYPOCRISY IS BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND START TALKING NONSENSE.

Guilty conscience dey worry you abi

Na you be Nigeria? Abeg. . . don't get me started. You go know the correct nonsense wey never comot for this my mouth.

bidemi12:
Where in all my post have I compared us to places like Iraq or Afghanistan? I do not care about those depraved nation but ours. You seem to be high on something other than drugs. Can I have some? You logic is warped and disjointed to say the least. Obviously passing NECO was a no no for you. So because we say Nigeria is bad has given you the license to go hay wire when it comes to countries to emulate? I see greatness in your future. In the caliber of IBB, OBJ and co. mad mentality. Nigeria will surely prosper with people like you as the backbone.

I don tire for all of una small small pikin wey come don full everywhere.

Just continue in your misery. . . Whether u like am or not, we go celebrate our Naija at 50!!!

bidemi12:
Like I said before: compare us to the worst of the worst and never to the ones we should emulate positively.

Abeg if u no get anoda thing to say make we hear word.

You hear me compare. I only said that as for me and my family, we will celebrate Naija.

In your eyes, Nigeria hasn't measured up to the countries you compare her with, so don't say i compare, because, i no get time to dey look another pesin face whether e get pimple or not.

Shior, such pettiness. No wonder we haven't been progressing.

bidemi12:
i'm getting tired of your insane logic. you dare compare nigeria to people who's main export is opium, whose men sleep with young boys openly and are terrorist and you say you love nigeria. i give up. you are insane and there's no cure. you win.

And i'm tired of your hypocrisy. . . Nigerians don't deal drugs abi, men don't sleep with men, Armed robbers don't terrorize, Ritualists, Kidnappers, Corrupt public officers. . . The list is endless.

So, please remind me again of why Afghans are less human.

I know my Nigeria, and i accept it for what it is, while i still have hopes that things will get better.

that is why i choose to celebrate. Naija is 50.

i think you are just a big hypocrite. You have been preaching all day that Nigeria is not worth celebrating, and now you want to die to defend your theory that Nigeria is better than Afghanistan.

Abeg, i too tire for una Nigerians. .  Instead of facing your own problems you are obsessed with looking at who is better or who is worse than you are. Today na ghana, tomorrow liberia, next na SA to USA.

If you no want celebrate, no be by force. nigeria sef no send you.

bidemi12:
You must have gone crazy. What the hell are you talking about? Have been to Afghanistan? I have. Do you even know what you are talking about? Trust me if Nigeria was anything close to that country you would not even have mouth to talk. How in God’s name would you even make that comparism. That has always been our problem. We look for the most depraved nations to emulate and never copy from the once that have the semblance of normalcy. MY GOD.

And you must have gone mad for thinking that Afghans are lesser beings than we are. slowpoke. . . If not for people who still believe in Nigeria, how long will it take to have complete anarchy in Nigeria.

So, you think we have nothing to celebrate. Well, i believe the situation in Nigeria should not be of concern to you at all. Bloody pessimist.

77ken:
The problem with Nigerians is that we fear too much.
Comparing Nigeria with Countries like afganistan is a shame. Nigeria has the manpower and  the resources to be a better a nation but a few corrupt individuals hold the nation to ransome with threats of civil war and mayhem if their biddings are not adhered to.
It`s time to wipe them all out n let new crop of leaders take over.!
And there is absolutely nothing to celebrate in 50 years of Nigeria`s existence absolutely NOTHING!

Statements like these make me cringe. Too many Nigerians think too highly of themselves. In what way will you say that we are better than Afghans.

And this kind of arrogance is displayed by the average Nigerian. You hear them say why should Nigeria be poor. You seem to believe that riches is a God-given gift to Nigeria and you don't need to do anything to get it.

You don't have to celebrate, my brother. Leave the celebration to the few of us who appreciate, and know that the future of Nigeria is in our attitude towards our country.

davidif:
Its so sad that this topic did not make the front page, yet topics like "Taiwo Gets Nigeria Recall And Shittu Dropped" or "Chidinma Wins Project Fame 2010!" make it to front page. Na wa o , it shows our priorities in Naija.

Did you create the thread because you felt it could make front page or out of genuine interest in the educational institutions in Nigeria
Hypocrisy is indeed the biggest problem in Nigeria.

bidemi12:
Well in a way I did learn a thing or two from Nigeria.  The most important being the ambition to get the hell out of there in order to achieve my full potential. Yeah. I hope you are not one of those who find nothing wrong with naija because they have dollars/pound to throw around and oppress.

Well Mr. Oga, you don comot na. So, leave Naija bizness for us wey still get stakes for Naija. Leave us make we celebrate our thing. At least you dey celebrate ya own for the place wey u dey.

You make a lot of sense bro.

But unfortunately, we have very few people who see Nigeria as home, therefore, we have very few people who don't give a rat's ass about changing what goes on there. That is why you always find people comparing our Naija to their dream countries, sometimes even, when there is absolutely no basis for comparison.

We have more of complainers, and people who will sit back to watch other people, and criticize whatever you do no matter what it is. (without offering a workable alternative)

Ranoscky:
Ask yourself these question,

Have seen a begger goin to cafe to check his mail box?

*Not to talk of registerin an account in NL and contributin daily*

Anoda angle of your yarns be say

You dey log on to Nairaland. . .

Therefore, you no be beggar . . .

So, u must be a big boy . . .

No, worry bros. i no jealous you. Make you just go enjoy our INDEPENDENCE.

Ranoscky:
Ask yourself these question,

Have seen a begger goin to cafe to check his mail box?

*Not to talk of registerin an account in NL and contributin daily*

Wetin konsain begger with Nairaland, and email. Wetin nairaland wan do for begger. . .

But thinking back, i remember some people wey come "appeal" for nairaland wey get Nice job in ABJ, nice house and all those things.

Anyway, you don lost me with dis logic wey u dey bring.

Everybody get different priority for life. Anybody fit do watever im want, and i no undastand how dat one fit affect another person celebration of Naija.

War never reach the man don draw sword begin to dey fight. . .

Nigerians gat so many effing hypocrites.

Talk onr today, do another tomorrow.

Well, make we see as im go perform first before we begin judge am.

I really hope say you go make me eat my words, oga jega.

Nigerians are relentless and Hardworking. . .

We always come through, one way or another (by hook or crook)

one love Naija. Happy 50th Birthday.

Too many hypocrites. . .

Everybody saying Naija bad, Naija corrupt, Naija this, Naija that, But they are also contributing their own quota to the rot in the system.

People wey dey do good no need to dey shout or criticize. Your deeds will speak for you.

So, to all the hypocrites, abeg we don too hear una smelly smelly mouth.

God bless NAija @ 50 jor.

It is human nature that no matter the situation, there will always be something to complain about.

I no go give myself sleepless nights to dey think about wetin we no get. But for people who wan carry all the whole burden of Naija on top dem head, Na you sabi.

God bless Naija, naija for life.

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bidemi12:
and you have not named any good thing so far. That is my problem with your analysis. the bad have completed over shadowed the good so much so that citizens are shackeled from realising their true potential. when you live through a week without thinking you have to bribe your way into what is basically your right, or do not have to jump through hoops to get a job, or sleep with one eye open for fear of armed robbers, or fear of showing your wealth because you might be kidnapped, or cast your vote and be confident that you vote will count, then you can preach to me about good things in nigeria. Please dont list food, or tourism (which we have none to boast of).

Alright. . . Point taken. Lol. No good thing about Nigeria from your point of view. I know that is because somehow, you have escaped the harshness and difficulties of Nigeria, and you will try to deliver all of your family from Nigeria, and get them integrated into the greatest nation of the world.