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I think Sahara reporters is crap.

Unfortunately i base my point on just one article. The one about the interview of Fashola. Their article was a complete misrepresentation of the video interview. Thank God we had access to it on Youtube.
it almost seemed like the reporter was talking about some other video interview.

The bias was too much. I believe that anybody can make a mistake, but smear campaign from news media is totally unacceptable!

Laws were made by Humans, and they can change depending on who the victim is. Just like all humans are equal, but some are more equal than others. ROFLMFAO!!!

I see so many people speaking from both ends of their digestive tract here. lol.

Maybe an argument can be made that the method Assange used in getting the information was illegal. But that doesn't change the content of the information.

Prosecute the young man if you want. But a lot of eyes have already been opened.

The bottom line is this nobody holy pass. Na de person wey dem catch, na him be armed robber.

ROFLMFAO!!! @ the usual suspects.

matazzmagi:
When Nigerians want to distract people from their endemic criminality, they level false accusation on Igbo and Biafrans. These people calling themselves Nigerians are nothing but unrepentant evildoers and satan worshippers. Its their culture

Your statement is inciting and offensive to me.

Whatever country you are from, when other people start to make demeaning statements about it, I'm sure you will call them tribalists.

And Pat Utomi will be the President of Dead Nigeria after the funeral.

Nigerians pull Nigeria down for their personal benefit, and you expect other countries to respect Nigeria.

Maybe your own Nigeria is about to die. . . Not the one i know!!!

Say what you want to say without any unnecessary drama, and please, next time, choose your words carefully.

Gbawe:
"Cooked up" for where? Tunde Bakare has confirmed it himself and everybody knows that you cannot quote Bakare wrongly without gaining a swift rebutal from the vocal Pastor. I guess the new excuse from camp desperate GEJ will be that Bakare is a spoiler for Atiku .

http://saharareporters.com/news-page/president-jonathan-offered-us-50000-bribe-we-returned-it-pastor-tunde-bakare-confirms

FYI, i don't care so much about GEJ.

All i'm saying is, quote any other source in the world. but not sahara reporters. I think they are crap!!!

excanny:
@DapoBear

I've never said Lagos is a no-man's-land. It belongs largely to the Awori Yorubas the last time i checked.

What i'm saying is that Lagos is not as Yoruba as you would want us to believe. It may be Yoruba territorially, but it isn't demographically.

Another known fact is that non-Yorubas make up the larger percentage of the city.

Sorry to bring up Awo, and using it wrongly. I think i didn't get my point across clearly.

But Lagos still remains unique as one of those city being run by non-indigenes. The only way to make it a Yoruba state culturally is declaring it a non-Nigerian territory and evacuating all non-Yorubas. Without that, i dont see how it can become a Yoruba state, just the same way North America can no longer be said to be indian anymore.

I don't think anybody is interested in not having non-Yorubas in Lagos.

The only thing i find difficult to understand is how people can say that Lagos is not demographically/Culturally Yoruba.

Could you explain how non-Yorubas who do menial jobs, and have contact with the general, largely uneducated Lagos community learn to communicate in Yoruba.

There may be lots of non-Yoruba professionals, but i don't think that applies to the larger non-educated community.

After the Fashola interview, and Sahara reporter's representation of it on their website, I don't think i could ever believe anything i read from them!!!

It is probably all cooked up, so that he can compete with BBC.

Language is not something that can be forced. I hear lots of claims about Lagos not being predominantly Yoruba.

FYI, most of the non-Yoruba immigrants in Lagos can speak Yoruba to some extent. The reason is simple. You learn the language required for you to communicate, and if you can't learn it, it would be hard for you to live in that community.

Now, don't tell me they were forced to learn the language!!! Energy always flows in the direction of least resistance. If i go to live in the east, i will have to learn Igbo, coz most of the people there are igbo speaking. And if i can't i leave.

I don't understand all these arguments about claiming ownership of Lagos!!!

This is just plain silly. Nobody represents anybody for the Yoruba race.

The mentality of the average Nigerian supports "godfatherism" and that is why corruption is thriving.

The Yoruba race doesn't need any single person to survive, and the same thing goes for all other ethnic groups in Naija.

If we continue to have Nigerians like the one who wrote for sahara reporters in the report in the post ^^^^^ above, then we have a long way to go.
Our basic problem is there is no truth in so many of us, and this is the biggest corruption of all. When people like this eventually get to public positions, imagine the havoc they will create!!!

If there was no video to show, can you imagine how the public would have been deceived, and we would have been arguing over lies.

Only God go judge all the evil people who have made Nigeria this way by their little or mighty actions.

Serious reporters are not supposed to be biased.

I tried to read the Sahara reporter's version of the interview on his website. And it was totally misrepresented. If we didn't have the video as evidence, the way the story was reported would have created a very different picture in my head.

I don't know whether i'm the only one who feels like that about his report. . .

An obviously miffed Governor Fashola reacted angrily to a question Saharareporters put to him regarding allegations of corruption made against him by a group named "True Face of Lagos." The group’s efforts to expose Mr. Fashola’s alleged acts of corruption before the Lagos State Assembly have been stalled by court orders granted against the probe at the behest of the governor.

Governor Fashola would not address why he went to court to stop the probe. Even so, he challenged his accusers to present concrete evidence about his alleged corruption.

Mr. Fashola also denied that a company named Alpha Beta, which is involved in collecting taxes in the state, is owned by his predecessor, Mr. Bola Tinubu. He challenged Saharareporters to present "proof" of Mr. Tinubu's ownership of the company.

Governor Fashola systematically evaded directly addressing questions as to whether Alpha Beta was being over-compensated for its job of collecting internally generated revenues for the state. Many critics have accused Mr. Fashola of funneling huge pay-offs to his predecessor in fulfillment of a deal signed before Mr. Tinubu anointed him as a successor.

"and let those who read you. . . coz i don't" . . . Classic

Respect is reciprocal, and BRF gave the Sahara guy the same amount of respect that he received from him.
Why didn't he make conversation like this with Ojo Maduekwe.

What was the sahara reporters guy even going on about? The interview was over, and he was still stalking the Governor. I think Fashola is a good man with great plans, but we need sooo many more good men in naija politics to be able to move forward at a desirable pace. Only one man can never move a nation by himself.

Take private businesses for example. Even with the greatest ideas/plans, a lot of businesses in Nigeria still fail, because there are soooo many people/factors out there that will put all their energy to work against the success of that business. I guess a lot of people from the rich to the poor are feeding off the disorder!!!

Nigerians are our own worst enemies. We will pull down anything. . . good or bad, just to feel/look good about ourselves.

I didn't realize that the video has been already put up by violent. . .

Now, why shouldn't we love this guy?? He listens, he obviously is very analytical and he has plans. . . Even if we perceive the progress as slow, his progress has been against so many odds.

There is still hope for Naija Nigeria!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPgJttYFIws&feature=player_embedded#!

I couldn't embed the video, but here is the link.

Now, why shouldn't we love this guy?? He listens, he obviously is very analytical and he has plans. . . Even if we perceive the progress as slow, his progress has been against so many odds.

Round 1. Let the fight begin!!!

Mr inventor can't get get through with his case until he shows the world his cure. Because as it stands know, Diabetes has NO CURE. And nobody in his right senses will go over to help him without knowing that he really has a "cure". It is impossible to vouch for something you know nothing about.

It is like coming to Nairaland to say you have Abacha's money stashed up somewhere, and you need to get over some obstacles to get it. Person no dey buy market wey im never see oooo. . . . that is pure 419 scam.

On the other hand, If a cure has been verified and announced, and he is claiming that some people stole that cure from him, then that will be a different story. But right now, a cure for diabetes is not something you keep in your backyard. too many people suffering and dying worldwide.

What Mr. Krendo is trying to say is that the so called ND struggle is a fight that has to begin with the constitution. Right now, the constitution does not give anybody but the FG rights over natural resources.

We can argue from now till kingdom come, but that is the way it is.

Laws are put in place for reasons, and the law is the law.

But also, laws can be changed. it is not rocket science.

So abeg ease up with the sentimentality that is always displayed by Nigerians.

I no insult anybody ooo. So, make nobody talk say na me start am!!!

Wahala dey ooo!!!

poster's point is simple and i believe reasonable.

America is just as guilty as so many other people that have been labelled terrorists.

There is no justification for either. . . We should sympathize with people who have lost, but nobody's loss is greater than the other.

human lives were lost, so as we sympathize with the people who died in 9/11, the world should also do the same for the numerous other lives that have been lost in situations worse than 9/11, some of which, were committed by American forces.

LouisThoru:
http://news.stv.tv/world/203155-china-mine-blast-kills-20-others-trapped-report/

Just after the Chile experience.

But no Chinese has been comparing it with the Chile experience as we did in Nigeria, neither were they making jest of it.

That is the typical Naija mentality. . . And unfortunately, if you try to make them see reason, the accuse you of being unduly patriotic.

orangemen:
this is a quality nonsense.
do u know the definition of a leader? one who has the mandate to make rules and regulations guiding the acts of others. by govt, we are talking abt the executive, legislature and judiciary. if our govt make good laws, interprete them and punish law breakers, u and i as fellowers will have no room for what is happening in nigeria.
leaders or good leaders are those that lead by good examples. what kind of example was cecilia ibru showing other bank workers when she was stealing over N100b from a bank she was to be a leader? what kind of example was balugon showing to the rest of the police force when he was stealing funds mearnt for everybody? what kind of laws are our legislatures making when yerima was saying he believe in islamic laws and went ahead to marry an under age? what kind of a leader was obasanjo when he cld not take off his eyes on his son's wife?
can u just stop for a minute and find from your dictionary the meaning of the word follower? it is an act of following. in which ways do u think we are not follwoing well as nigerians?
the bomb that exploded in abuja were definitely made available by those we call our leaders. the arms in circulations are been imported by those we call leaders while we followers use them nicely?
pls, in your readiness to prove your point, just mention one country of this world where u have good leaders and bad followers or where u have bad leaders and good followers.
followers and leaders are two ppl that move in the same directions.
bibilically, it is writen that a blind man can never lead a blind man otherwise both of them will fall into a ditch.
mr. poster, say something meaningful and forget this cheap popularity u are seeking here.

So, Mr orangemen
Give me an example of a good leader in Nigeria who you will recommend to lead us to the promised land. Most Nigerians (even, those wey dey claim holy) have embraced corruption as a way of life.

Leaders are chosen out from followers!!!

Wasn't Jesus a good leader? Why didn't he make all the people do right Good leadership can only go so far. If the people are corrupt, everything will always fall apart.

Change starts with you and me. Don't sell your vote, don't vote for him because he is your brother, or because he will give you contracts. That is what corruption strives on.

Akin-egba
your post is on point. Change in Nigeria can only be possible if we eliminate the corrupt mindset of our youth. That is the only way we can begin to ask the right questions, and request the right things of our leaders.

Most people who are screaming - corrupt leaders/marginalization/etc etc, are mainly trying to get into the limelight, become future politicians and continue robbing us.

If we can't change ourselves, and influence positive change in the people around us, no President/leader is going to change anything.

Some people's reasoning here is just appalling.

I can see from the man's point of view, but there may be other ways of achieving the same aim. Both parties involved (mum and Dad) must be willing to compromise.

However, i am surprised at the people saying that he shouldn't have his children in Nigeria because it is a "fiery inferno" or other stoopid words like that. I believe you should be able to come up with more valid reasons.

There are newborns in Nigeria who are in good health. In what way are his kids better than them

Inferiority complex has eaten sooo deep into the hearts of a lot of Nigerians. . . both home and abroad. Wgat a shame!!!

What is the aim of these documentaries, is it purely entertainment. . . Coz if it is, then i don't understand why people should create entertainment out of some other person's misfortune.

Is it to ridicule Nigerians as a whole. . . It looks very much like their aim. But we all know that most Nigerians are a victim of the situation in Nigeria, so this would be so insensitive of them.

Is it to ridicule the Nigerian government. . . the Nigerian government is never affected in any way by their documentaries. The focus is always for the world to see how these people are living.

And BTW, a lot of Nigerians will never understand that the fact that i don't live the way you live does not make me unfortunate. this kind of mentality that their documentaries generate is the reason for the hopeless, negative criticism you always get from Nigerians. . . The stupid believe that things have to be "from abroad" before they can be of good quality. And our dear politicians are ripping us off for this.

Anyway you look at it, most of these documentaries have a sarcastic, demeaning undertone.

First of all, I don't unserstand why people have been relating years since independence with development.

Development has absolutely nothing to do with years since independence. We were independent of the british, but were completely under military dictatorship and corruption for so many years.

All these time BBC didn't see it as a good idea to come and shoot law and disorder. I guess they knew better. . . but still they don't see it as a positive development that they can come to make documentaries about Nigeria and still ridicule our everyday life.

I think like a lot of other people have said, they are a bunch of scavengers/opportunists. Well, i don't think Nollywood and BBC journalism these days are far from each other.

Everybody knows that Nigeria has problems. These problems are not new, because every almost country has the same issues at one time or the other in their history.

But, Nigerians who condemn Nigeria as hopeless because of these problems are absolutely short-sighted, illogical and ignorant of events.

bidemi12:
@ZIGA,

listen woman. why would you not be afraid of a revolution? anything that would disturb your daily beer-parlour hoping must be discouraged abi? like avalani said we shall band together and force you to face reality. beer will not solve your problems. facing the truth will. and dont worry about being a coward, you can overcome it with time. i could give you a few pointers on facing your fears and overcoming it. i have the t-shirt to prove it.

Mr. American,

Are you so blind to the truth.

The problem with Nigeria is people like you.

Lets say we have a revolution, headed by almighty Iraq/Afghan warrior - you.

And then, the new Nigeria will be headed by another selfish, arrogant, deaf-to-the people person like you. Back to square one.

Every coup, every election we've had so far was a chance for a revolution. How many cycles have we had, and now you want the same thing to happen all over again, and you want Nigerians to believe the result will be different. It will just be power changing hands, promises not kept. You need some lessons in logic.

What we need is power for the people to control whoever the leader is. And when the common people are politically divided, that power will never come.

You have absolutely no idea what it takes to be a leader. So stop singing this your revolution music.

Avalani:
@ziga and the other cowardly morons: kindly shut up, your brain cannot comprehend the issues being discussed so it will be best if you just pretend to listen. goats give birth to goats and cowards are no different.

@cap28 and those who understand what a revolution is and its significance: never stop speaking against that which is wrong. our numbers will continue to grow.

People (I refrain from using "Nigerians" are so afraid of the possibilities of the future that they accept the injustice of the present.

And i should shut up because your royal foolishness is about to talk. Arrogant, and foolish bushman.

People like you are the problem we have in Nigeria. In your own little world, you believe that you are the only thing that matters.

Lol. This is the typical Naija big man mentality. . . It is your types that we need to flush out of government. If our leaders had a quarter of a listening ear, our situation wouldn't be like this.

On a faceless forum. ooooh. i quiver in fear, because the keyboard warrior is here. Abeg, go do your shakara for your girlfriend. No be today. Lol.

BTW, i know this is a cowardly clone of one of my old friends.