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Kaita was reckless and his mistake cost us the match.

Besides that (prejudice aside), i think kaita plays well enough, and that explains why our midfield crumbled right after he was sent off.

We need more discipline in our team.

Also, fitness of many of the players seems to be a problem.

Truthfully, we don't have a strong team, and we don't deserve to go beyond the 1st round.

Lars lagerback could have gotten better results, but no matter how much u try, you cant cut grass well enough with a blunt cutlass.

Very interesting news,

Anyhow, that is already past. We need to look forward and get good results for the remaining games.

mecylee:
okay no problem but let see how it will go make i be like helment we bi say na after three month Okada and passenger abandon helment

But that doesn't change the fact that, just like the helmet initiative, it is a good decision.

What is disturbing is the fact that some people are arguing against it. Hopefully, the Police and Road safety would be able to enforce it.

Why are you guys taking this talk all over the place. it is pretty much straight forward, but some people will always look the other way.

It is a safety issue. Pregnant women and children on bikes should only be seen in a circus.

The pregnant women with protruding bellies will not be able to sit right. Little kids are not tall enough to have their feet on the foot rests.

na wah for nairaland warriors oooo.

Nice move by the LASG.

How can we use the problem of traffic to justify the use of Okadas? People who will ride on okada will always ride on it. Traffic or no traffic. And people who will not will not, traffic or no traffic.

And what is the argument about. Bikes are not a safe means of transportation for pregnant women with protruding bellies (they can't sit in the middle of the bike seat) little children (their feet will not reach to enable them to get any support)

And i believe the lives of pregnant mothers and children should be of utmost importance to any government.

Life can be so simple, but some activists will just not let it be.

Dem journalist these days no dey get camera, or voice recorder

The story has a lot of holes in it, an i know some people will do anything to get money.

Andre Uweh:
Once a country is not developed, then it is a developing country. Underdevelopment is hardly ascribed to any country.

Very true.

Even the terminology developing country in losing popularity.

These days, low income, middle income, high income countries etc are used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developing_country

So, Nigeria will be classed as a developing country.

Eddeux:
You hit the nail on the coffin. Tell 'em!
So something is  inferior if it doesn't involve Nigeria?  And nairalist, lmao.

lyfe:
Only truth so far.

Onlytruth:
The reason is one word:

[size=16pt][center]FRAUD[/center][/size]

Nigerians still lead the world in notoriety when it comes to fraud. The painful part is that Nigerians are not even the most fraudulent in the world. We are just the dumbest fraudsters.

Most times, i'm a very rational person, so i'm am asking how the absence of a Nigeria section on craiglist will help prevent Nigerian fraudsters from getting on craiglist.

I hope i can get a rational explanation.

Rumor is big business in Nigeria.

Who are these so called sources in Abuja? How reliable are these sources? Why can't the sources be given a human face?

Also, why did the journalists who took the word of these sources not go to some other government source who has a name and face to confirm or deny this report?

Please, I would suggest that we disregard this news before we throw ourselves into another round of aimless arguing.

So, what is the big deal about having Ghana on craiglist, and Nigeria off.

e-resource:
The temperature of water gradually (nt instantly or fast enuf to prevent chem rxns) adjusts to your body temp. Or y do we sometimes av a cold tommy after taking water? Its simply because, it takes a little while for the temp to balance up.

@ the liver guy, water and food do nt go to your liver directly. The liver would always try to detoxify your system bt there is only so much it can take- thts y u get a bloated tummy if u kp taking lots of alcohol (for example).

Caution saves medication and cost of cures bt in the end, EveryOne is always free to choose how he/she dies.

My guy, check your facts before you post them.

the so called bloated tummy is due to deposition of fats. Alcohol contains a lot of calories. When these these calories are excessive, the liver converts them to fats and stores them in the mid section. (belly, buttocks, hips, upper thighs)

When you drink cold water, its temperature is converted to body temperature within a very short time. The body is constantly generating heat, but there is no energy to maintain the cool temperature of the water you drank, so in a very short time, the body takes over. Simple.

There are so many things that are not known in science, and it may be possible that some of the things you said may have a very small probability of being true in future.

But, you should know that you can not try to explain what you don't understand with falacies.

Okada is not an effective means of mass transportation. But because Lagos doesn't have any public mass transit system that caters adequately for its people, then the okadas might still be required.

Despite their menace, I think they shouldn't be banned outrightly. Instead, they can be phased out gradually until the Lagos metro is operational. For now, their activities should be limited to certain routes, certain operational hours and traffic rules should apply to them too.

And when the Lagos metro kicks off, there will automatically be no need for them.

BRF's efforts are appreciated by many. We pray for more like him to rise from the crowd of Naija politicians soon.

Daystar builds schools

http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5458170-146/story.csp

@beneli

I was focusing on the public health sector, but also, i see your point. There's always a price to pay for progress.

And hopefully, if this can bring development in the private health sector, sometime soon, the government run health institutions will also fall in line.

beneli:
This is a very healthy development.

The chances are that if the family gets a good solicitor, they will most certainly get compensated. The solicitor would be requesting a specialist medical opinion that the perinatal injuries sustained by the child has lead to the organic brain damage described. They will also be querying whether the person who carried out the procedure actually had the relevant level of training. It doesn't matter whether such injuries are known complications of the procedure in question or not.

Our society needs more of such litigations and questions asked of its health providers and doctors. Because once this culture is internalised; once people begin to demand of their service-providers, evidence-based treatments by qualified practitioners, then these service-providers will begin to sit up to provide the services they are in a contractual agreement to provide. They would also be more persuaded to ensure that proper mechanisms are put in place in their practices to ensure that all their employees comply with best practices in the health sector. And be ready to pay the penalties when they fail to do so. That's how things work in sane societies.

Why this culture is healthy is because doctors will then learn not to be experimenting with clinical situations that they are not equipped to handle and be motivated (or encouraged by whichever body/organisation that indemnifies their practices) to ensure that whoever carries out any procedures within their practice is skilled in such procedures. This will also encourage those that want to open up clinics (or carry out any clinical procedures) to have the relevant evidence-based skills and training that they need to be able to remain competitive and relevant. With this culture a lot of the quacks in our society that give good doctors a bad name will be forced to close shop.

Those that say that this family has been motivated by greed, or are insinuating some sort of mercenary subculture, have an attitude that is part of that problem that has put our health system in the mess it's in.

True. . .healthy development, but unfortunately, i don't think this will bring any progress to healthcare delivery in Nigeria.

This case will be like flogging a dead horse. No matter how many lashes, it is not going anywhere.

The government can't provide enough equipped hospitals, provide incentives that would keep health care workers in the country, make healthcare affordable for the average Nigerian. . . etc

If these are not done, it is only a matter of time before we hear of another case like this.

benchwest:
this is not sharing of money,the bottom line is that there is no legit sytem in nig,
firstly we need a solid central national base,and then central data base for labour ministry.'
through the data base of the labour ministry the govt gets  taxes from workers
and in return workers should get return when they lost there job ,especially temporally jobs.
4 my own opinion you dont just start paying welfare to some one  who havent worked or pay tax to the govt.
the govt can creat a policy, for example if  you have worked for 1 year in any company being it private or public
this company most make you  a contract of work through the ministry of labour, and the ministry should keep this information in there data base
of which they knew how long you are goonna work with thus company and the taxes you are gonna pay.
after you are done  with this job and you are jobless,the ministry knew already through there data base .for example you worked for 1 year
your welfare social reward from the govt could be to pay you back 40 or 50% of your salary for 4 months or 6 months
and two years will then  be 8 months or 10 months.
theres is welfare in every develope country through out the  world , but then every country got her  policy or system of welfare policy

i thinck there is no doubt that we need to creat a great pension policy in nigerian society,provide free
health care, and make it more stardard.
howevert the most importantly is  central data base, the id card system will  be very very vital. is a  solid way of keeping record in all vital areas.
for example to get loans from the bank,census,is vital in electoral system,control crimes,reduce crimes,
so the id card system is vital, and when we got that, then we got the central data system, and of course every nigerian should go get the id card.
the law makers should  do something about  making it no id card  no recognition, especially in public places like banks,ministries,
so when u dont have id they cant attend to you,just to make poeple go get theres.
god bles nig
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Your proposal is a brilliant modification of the stoopid scheme that our political leaders are proposing for graduates.

But also, another welfare scheme may be required for the true underprivileged.

Sometimes, it seems that they don't really analyze things before making decisions.

I don't see any sense in this.

Dammnnn. . . graduates are not supposed to be under privileged. Spend the money on removing the factors that make them underprivileged, and then you can set up welfare schemes for the real underprivileged.

Very stoopid idea for the stage we are in. Majority of the population is jobless or they are involved in their own small/personal/unsteady business (which can be  translated to mean unemployed).

Welfare schemes are supposed to be cushions for helpless people after you have done everything possible to move them out of their situation.

How about putting this money into very low cost housing, or subsidizing petroleum products. The effects of these will be definitely progressive.

The little handouts will barely feed these people and will not help with development at all.


The same amount of money that would serve as welfare for all that population should be used instead (and would be more than enough) to create more jobs.

With the current situation in Nigeria, 70% of Nigerian graduates, and maybe a lot of the population of neighboring West African countries will be on the scheme.

It all sounds like it is bound to fail from the beginning, and i'm sure them senate people will only try to go for this coz there is something in it for them. . . It will  probably be a way to enslave the whole Naija population for good and have them do whatever they (politicians) want for monthly pocket change.

@post
Brilliant suggestions, progressive thinking.

Unfortunately, most Nigerians and politicians are too selfish in their thoughts and ways for this to be achievable.

The swastika is also a hindu symbol.

I'm sure the indian's intention is different from what people have interpreted. . . Gap in communication. So, you guys should try and tolerate his religion just like he tolerates all the churches and mosques that try to push their beliefs into his face without consideration.

I found a link with some info on it.

http://www.religionfacts.com/hinduism/symbols/swastika.htm

Kobojunkie:
Don't worry about what I STAND for here. We are talking of the the Law here, right? Yes, his installation as Acting President was against the constitution, and we majorly chose to ignore that. We seem to ENCOURAGE the misuse when it works for us, rather than demand for rule of law all the times and that is part of the reason why we are where we are today.

By the way, the ILLEGAL way is never really the ONLY way! There is a right way for most everything.

Talking about law, and your statements, you are equally guilty about being selective.

It is convenient for you to speak against thee method of his installation as acting president, but you choose to ignore the illegality of not making him the acting president.

Anyway, we are all entitled to our opinions, because most of them are only opinions.

Peace.

protected:
hello NLs, i hve had some rashes on my left lap, a swollen groin for two days now, today is the third day and its started spreading down my left leg. the rashes are reddish and some grow quite big and they look really irritating. i want to know what i can use to eradicate such rashes. pls help anybody.

It sounds like you have a skin infection, and the swelling in your groin may be a swollen lymph node due to the infection.

Unfortunately, there is no way for me to know for sure. Skin conditions are very difficult to diagnose without visualizing it.

My advise will be for you to go see your doctor.

Balogun:
ziga, glad you are doing a good job. unfortunately my job presently involves a lot of clinical and administration and teaching. leaves me very little time to attend to queries at moment. nice to read the replies though

Thanks brov. just following your good steps.

Kobojunkie:
I am sorry but you are wrong. We have had this SELECTIVE justice system for well over 20 years now. I am sure people will remember how Buhari regime used this system to silence those who were in its way. Babangida used it so well that to this day, it shocks me that the man still walks free and in charge in that country. I do not have to tell you how Abacha, Obasanjo, and yar adua definitely did go after those who stood against their agenda in anyway. The current man in Aso Rock already started playing his hand the very first week he was made acting president and is likely just beginning.

Is Justice ABOUT joy? Ibori is on the run now, but I think what should matter more to Nigerian people is IF we will get justice  at the end of it all.
Alams case is one of sheer stupidity on his part. He skipped bail in the UK and definitely set himself up for what he got. However, your claim that he was stripped of ALL he had stolen, I am not sure of. By the way, how much time did he sped in Jail after all he did? Do you know where he is now?
Are all the crooks ruining the country today just the politicians? I do not think so. 

What we have, in my opinion, is NOT a system that is SLOW. . . slow implies work is actually being done to make sure ALL that break the law are brought to justice, but I think we have accepted at this point that that is not the case in Nigeria. A Selective system does not work to ensure RULE of LAW is applied in ALL cases. . . Selective implies that rule of law if applied when it is convenient and that is what we have in Nigeria. Even the installation of Jonathan as Acting President was against RULE of LAW, but that was conveniently ignored even by the people.

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Please. . . the non installation of Jonathan was against the rule of Law. No offence, but, many times, it is hard to understand what you represent/stand for when you make your points!!!

Kobojunkie:
You asked what the solution was, and I told you it was not rocket science. Yes, the police and law makers and enforces need to be MADE(Note Action) to get to work. Or how else do you get to a point where the laws are implemented without the official implementers of the law being involved?
hhm . . . but you expect us to believe if we fold our arms a bit longer( even after over 20 of waiting and watching it all go to hell in a hand basket) the wolves will take out the other wolves and then somehow go away, and the system will jumpstart itself automagically?
Come on!! Nowhere have I stated INACTION is the key. Action continues to be the key to move us from where we are - a place we know is not working at all for us -- to where we ought to be. Implementation is NOT theory. In order to get anything done, you have to DO something - something to set the wheels rolling, and lead to the results you expect/want. That DOING process is what implementation refers to here.
We are just getting to the stage? Corruption used to be frowned upon and caught as soon as it was detected. Politicians knew the penalties and consequences of being caught in corrupt deals back before things changed. . .  Go back to cases like Abiolas etc. Many were tried and had their careers almost crippled, even though there was not enough evidence to convict many back then.
We are NOT just getting to any stage. We are just seeing a continuation of the same we have had for the last 20 years. Only now the media sensationalizes it more than it used to and it suddenly seems ALL NEW to persons who have not been keeping up with happenings in at least the last 2 decades.  Don't confuse my stance with yours there. I believe we already know it can work better even in Nigeria, it did in the days before we decided to take 5 steps backwards. And how did we get it working even then? Simple. . . by moving from folding our arms and waiting on the wolves to automagically take themselves out( something that does not seem likely because they are good at switch sides these days as soon as power equilibrium starts shifting) to demanding and acting to get what we need done.

Kobojunkie.

ACTION is the key. Correct. But who is going to make these things happen?

I guess its the same corrupt officials who are in power.

And from what you are saying, that is selective justice??

wirinet:
Are you serious? Most high level crimes are not detected when they happen? I am sure you are saying that just for the sake of argument. Most politicians on the right side of the law power, steal in broad day light, and with photo opportunity for all to see. Iwu withdrew all INECs money after he was sacked, are you telling me that is hiiden from you. What about Yaradua's cabal that was withdrawing money and awarding contracts during the yaradua's saga like it was going out of fashion soon. Did anenih steal the over  N300 billion naira meant for road at night?

There is no way you can steal the kind of money politicians still in Nigeria and not leave a trace.
Now they want to build a run way forN 64 billion or is it N57 billion, when others are building whole modern airports for one third the amount. Is that hidden also.

Please call a spade a spade.

Allegations in newspapers or by people doesn't equal proof in a court of law.

But still, lets assume that everybody knows that this is happening with sufficient proof. . .

That doesn't change the fact that the person who will have enough power to bring him to justice will be some opposition politician.

And that doesn't change the fact that for that case, justice has been served, because, the person convicted is indeed guilty of the said crime.

Or, what was the point you were trying to make by highlighting that part of my post

Lol. I guess only you can tell me what i been smoking.

Kobojunkie:
Grow through certain stages? Didn't we already do that back when we had a serious system in place? How many times do we need to subject ourselves to these same GROWING stages you claim?You have had 20 years to learn that this never is the case. 20 years ago, majority of Nigerians were not corrupt individuals living off corruption.

yes, i agree. . . Implementation is the key. But who will implement? The police that will rather collect some bribe to make extra money for their family? or the Judiciary that works hand in hand with the political office holders, or who will even testify, the common man who will receive some bribe to shut up?

I don't know how you expect people who benefit from a system to auto-magically start to implement the Law perfectly.

So, i don't see how your implementation theory will work. First, we need to make big examples. . . partial or not.

From what you have said, you believe Nigeria has already gone through the stages i tried to describe. But i do not agree.

True. Previously corruption was frowned at when things were good. Thereafter, for so many reasons, a lot of things degenerated completely, and for the past 20 years corruption grew in Nigeria.

Guess why? I can't remember anybody being tried for corrupt practices (partial or impartial) for so long until OBJ came along in 1999. We Nigerians cried selective justice, but even the States acknowledged his efforts against corruption.

We are just getting to the stage where we realize that we need to arrest and try corrupt public officials, even if it is by their corrupt counterparts.

And if we don't pass through this, then you are the one who's expecting magic.

If you don't agree with me on this point, then i don't think you will ever see my point of view.

Alright. . . .

Now, it seems you are ready to talk.

I agree with you that the law is already in place.

And i'm sure you will agree with me that corruption permeates every aspect of Nigeria, from the law enforcement, judiciary, prisons, common man, just to list a few.

So with this "law" already in existence, how do we implement it, when everybody has been benefiting from it one way or another to varying degrees.

And YES. i stand by my words, that everybody has benefited from the corruption in one way or another but to varying degrees.

That is why the degree of partiality with regards to implementation of the law in developed countries is nothing compared to what we have here.

But, i think the system we have currently in Naija is a natural solution, because it will be almost impossible to have the eutopia we all dream of without growing through certain stages.

Slowly but surely, wolves will eat wolves. Initially, when power changes, judgement may be reversed, but the politicians will device smarter ways of keeping their opponents out for good.

Automatically, standards of governance will increase, and you will see (actually, we have started to see) some politicians rise higher than others, in terms of moving towards the ideal.

And eventually we will have less wolves in the system and thus, we'll get closer to the ideal.

But still, the initial step is punishment of the guilty, whether partial or impartial. . .  And sometimes, making examples of a single criminal amongst a group will change the mind of others.

You may be thinking the change that will happen will be limited to these politicians changing their allegiance, but i tell you the changes will go a lot deeper than that.

Kobojunkie:
A Modification of what happens everywhere? Why do you feel the need to throw EVERYWHERE under the bus so you can score one measly point for your “Nigeria”?

Score points for my Nigeria. . . Come on, don't be petty, do you think i'm into this to score points, or to see who wins the argument?

I believe the origin of all this talk is so that we can maturely rationalize a better technique for proper implementation of Justice in "My Nigeria"

But unfortunately, the only thing i've been hearing from you is this/that can't work.

Alright ma, what can work?

Kobojunkie:
Therefore, you are saying that what happens in developed countries, for instance is that the[b] law ignores crimes committed by officials, UNTIL, some more powerful politician/official [/b]decides to use that card to get a rival out of the way. Justice works that way in developed countries?
Did you read this post of yours after typing it?Again, what happens in Nigeria DOES NOT happen everywhere? So, let us please focus on discussing this within the Nigerian context in which we are sure it applies, more like institutionalized, and loose this "I PRETEND IT HAPPENS EVERYWHERE SO IT IS OK" attitude to tackling OUR issues.

I don't know why, but whenever you argue, you lose the ability to see things from another angle.

Most high level crimes are not detected when they happen (that doesn't mean they are ignored), and many times, in politics, even in developed countries, political opponents dig up dirt on themselves, and if you have significant dirt, it will be thrown at you and used against you.

And as i said, there aint nothing wrong with that, coz eventually peoople will realize that your dirt can and will be used against you in the court of law and most smart ones will clean up!!!

Politicians in Naija have a lot of dirt, so what do you expect them to throw all the time?

I hope you will understand that.

Kobojunkie:
@Ziga, the comparisons you made of this to what happens at the FBI were definitely lame, and from nowhere.

What happens in Nigeria DOES NOT happen everywhere? So, let us please focus on discussing this within the Nigerian context in which we are sure it applies, more like institutionalized, rather than making this another "I PRETEND IT HAPPENS EVERYWHERE SO IT IS OK" issue.

And can you please give me a "non-lame" reason why the comparison is from nowhere?

What happens in Nigeria is a modification of what happens everywhere. I do not want to get into conspiracy theories, but if you are really wanted for something in many developed countries - political or not, your bad books will be used to "witch hunt" you, and those officials will be made to either face charges or resign. Abeg, there will always be priorities in terms of justice.


In Nigeria it is may be more more partial for obvious reasons. I don't understand how that is so hard to understand.

obailala:
@wirinet, Kobojunkie, princekevo et al.

Nobody is saying it is not selective justice and nobody is also saying the present system of selective justice is the best. All we are saying is, "half bread is better than none." The kind of justice system we so wish for is not possible in Nigeria. . .not with our present political class which is made up of 98% corrupt individuals who have been (s)elected. You all have to wake up from your wild dreams and face reality. This is Naija!!!

We all should at least be happy if someone like Ibori can be brought down by this flawed system cos we would actually have 1 less criminal politician (out of thousands) to worry about. As slow and ineffective as this present system may appear to be, it is worthy of note that there is no other solution for this epidemic in Nigeria.

Saying the system is bad isnt enough cos every Nigerian (even a child) knows that. The question remains, what do we do? . . do we sit back and wait for a perfect system before we do something?. . I challenge any one of you who has a better and PRACTICAL solution (that will work in this our Naija) to spit it out.

Bros, I support your challenge. If you have something better that will work, tell it now.

Let us be realistic. the state we are in right now, we have more wolves than sheep. So, the natural way out will be for the wolves to fight themselves until we have less wolves in the system, before anything close to effective implementation of justice can work.

So, please, if anybody has a suggestion (not critic) of a system that is achievable, i'm all ears.

wirinet:
Sorry to say but your argument are very lame.

Up till a few months ago, the most wanted "criminal" in Nigeria was Ribadu, the IG was looking for him like Osama Bin Laden. Meanwhile Ibori was the bride of the government, in fact he was consulted in major political appointments by the yaradua administration. It was only in the last one month that Ibori and Ribadu exchanged roles. With Ibori being declared a wanted "criminal" Ibori had never been number 1 on the EFCC list.

Sorry to say too, but your analysis of my post is also very lame. . .

Whether ibori was previously on the list does not matter, the FG with its power see Ibori as a threat worthy of the no. 1 position, and Ibori has cases to be answered, so they use his unanswered case against him to remove the threat.

Don't choose to be one sided, this happens all over the world, even in the states.

A lot of people don't really care why Ibori is to be put in jail. People are happy because we have 1 less thieving politician to worry about. The end achieves the means.

And politician who is smart will try to clean up his books, because it is likely to be used against him in future, for whatever purpose. And that to me is progress.

Justice is justice. . .

The implementation may be intentionally or non-intentionally partial.

So many factors come into play. Law enforcement agents in Naija seem to function like the journalists. How can you get a conviction with mere allegations, so if you don't have concrete evidence that can bring about conviction especially for powerful politicians. You may get them arrested for a day, out on bail the next and acquitted in a couple more months.

People have said so much about political witch-hunting. But the truth is that there will always be a priority list for the implementation of justice. An example is the FBI most wanted list. At certain times, some criminals are more important than other criminals. So, there is really nothing wrong in putting all your resources out against an enemy(Ibori) who is perceived to be able to cause national instability in the near future.

Also, if you don't have concrete evidence against a powerful criminal, and he is currently docile, the best thing is to wait and watch until you can pin something concrete on them. And this is what we Nigerians have coined as "witch-hunting", but this is done all over the world and may be the only way of putting criminals out of the general society. Nobody really cares for what crime a criminal/politician is put in prison, as long as he can be put away for sufficient time, so that he won't be able to do more of his biz.

Bottom line is this. When you chase a group of bush-rats, they scatter in all directions, and you chase after the one you are most likely to catch or even sometimes, you ignore all the little rats and go for the fattest in the group.

You can never catch them all, but anyone you catch will still be good enuf meat.