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I think the Governor is making sense here. This kind of thing happens all the time, and the power of the media is to blow things out of proportion.

However, I hope he has truly done the things he says he has done, and it is not just on paper, but actually being implemented.

@OP

I don't agree with you that the article painted Nigeria black. The writer is obviously someone who has done some real research on Nigeria because he actually presented the facts as they are.

He gave the positives and negatives, and he tried to rationalize the reasons for it and he was not in anyway sarcastic about his remarks. This is unlike some other reports that i've seen that look like they were written from the seat of a plane.

This report is a very honest evaluation of the situation on ground. Thanks to the reporter for being factual.

if the dumb biatch had gotten caught and executed - there would have been so many threads condemning the chinese

True. . . And also there would have been so many threads condemning the Nigerian Government for not protecting the rights of its citizens.

LFJ:
@Rossike, I believe I am entitled to my opinion the same way you are entitled to yours.  What is wrong with saying what you feel about your country or about the opinion of others without insulting the other person for not saying it the way you want it. There was no courtesy in your writing and it is very disappointing for a self acclaimed globe trotter like yourself. You should know better!

Your manner of response clearly defined the kind of misguided education you have if you really had any; calling me an "idiots"  shows what you lack in home training and concluding that my position has to do with inferiority complex shows how myopic your brain is. You would have done better by lecturing me on all the positives things you know about our country which I don’t know or, perhaps, write about the positive things about Nigeria which I discredited before resulting to name calling. Is it an offence to have different perspectives on issues?  Perhaps, my  refusal to be fooled and brainwashed like yourself who pretend that everything is gold when it’s very clear that our future and that of our children are in danger makes me an "idiots" .
Mr. Good citizen or Patriotic Nigerian, Please, can you tell me which one is not true about Nigeria from my list; 
Electricity     - No
Health care system   - No
Security            -   No
Road            -   No
Education            -   Zero
Economic Development      -   Zero
Good water system                       -   Zero
Transportation system       -   Hun! Hun!
Good Governance         -    zero
Criminals in position of Authority   -   Yes
Corruption          -   Yes
Fake pharmaceutical drugs            -   Yes
Company shutting down      -   Yes
Unemployment          –    yes
Poverty             –    yes
Child abuse          –    yes
Women abuse          –    yes
Sound Financial Institution      -   No

Mr. Patriotic Nigerian, who told you that you love Nigeria more than I do or more than anyone, what gave you the impression that you have a higher stake than I do or who told you that you have contributed to the growth of Nigeria more than what I have done. You should be disturbed if I say what the world doesn’t know about us. If you are widely travelled as you claimed, you will not come over here to insult anybody, if out of concern for my country, I listed all what I feel should not be only for you and your rich parents who are living their Nigerian dream. Except your sojourn across the globe includes only countries like the Congo, Sierra Leone, Liberia, Afghanistan amongst other war ravaged countries, then I’ll understand your ridiculous argument.
A proud Nigerian will not be ashamed to tell people that at this age in the life of our country, all the under listed are still a nightmare in a country that claims to be the giant of Africa;
• Stable electricity
• Sound education
• Good Health care
• Road
• Security
• Transportation
• Good Water system
• Governance, Etc

I am not proud and will never be proud of the fact that at this age we are still struggling with what democracy is all about. Where is the freedom of speech if a young man like you comes online to insult people just because they refuse to praise inefficiency in our system? You should be worried if I condemn our beautiful culture, the struggle of our fore fathers, the effort of hardworking Nigerians and those who have labored hard to see that we achieve a better Nigeria.

For your knowledge, it is not an error to add child abuse to my list, if that is not a concern to you because you and your family had never witnessed one, click on the links below, and prove me wrong that this should not be a concern to any right thinking Nigerian!

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/africa/08/25/nigeria.child.witches/index.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXE_nfQ8IBw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZVVbGEOoCM&p=F9E4E3F13B8369E0&playnext=1&index=37

Mr. Patriotic, so after 50 years of independence, tell me who the fool is between both of us, to still buy the idea that it takes time to accomplish those basic things I listed. If 50 years is not enough to have those things, please, tell me Mr. ‘Rebranding’, how many more years do we need to get there. If stating what is obvious about my county is what is making you go crazy like this, then you have a job to do; definitely, not with those who are feeling aggrieved with the system that has failed to give them not all but some of the basic things that would aid a better livelihood, but to those who have failed to make the future a promising one for you, me and our children.

Whatever your Liberian friend lectured you about your country or how you feel about Nigeria is immaterial to me and does not suppress my opinion. If what you enjoy as “a pampered middle class Nigerian who benefitted from some of the best services an African country could offer it citizens, from being taught at a Federal govt college (I don’t think you’re educated!), to well-paid parents living the Nigerian Dream - with two cars and a duplex + househelps, and the odd summer trip to London” falsely gives you the impression that you are big, special and can insult anybody for having a different view from yours, then I maintain my position that you are a fool. I am humble to tell you that God has blessed me more than that, because for what you claim you enjoy from your parent, I have already game more than that to my beautiful kids since age of 32 years and that was 4 years ago. It is not by my making, it is by the special grace of God. I am just deeply concerned about the future of my children and that of the average Nigerian and not about how your middle class Nigerian parents are living their Nigerian dream or how they provided you with the luxury of going to Fed. College and summer trips to London. What does these have to do with poor electricity, poor education, corruption, good governance etc in Nigeria. In fact, your manner of writing which depicts your way of thinking shows the fallen standard of education in public institutions like Federal government colleges in Nigeria which you mentioned, it explains why so many parents would send their kids to private schools.

I will advise you to learn how to talk, or present your position on issues with reasonable facts without insulting others.

When you present facts, you have to present it in an objective way.

All the facts you highlighted happen in every country in the world to varying degrees, so it seems to me like you picked these things out of grudge rather than true objectivity.

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=505447.msg6665662#msg6665662 date=1283173178]Its because the plane (A340-500) in which they use for the flight, is operated by Hi-Fly - a Portuguese aviation company on behalf of Arik. Obtaining this certification will enable Arik to use its own 100% crew as well as solely managed by it. This will save the airline thousands of dollars. Obtaining this certification by any country, is very much celebrated because flying to/from America guarantees the airlines of any country, the ability to increase earnings significantly.[/quote]Thank you for the information. We need more of people like you in Nigeria/Nairaland.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=219011.msg6663146#msg6663146 date=1283125478]Ok, thanks,
But has it helped in any investigation or been used as criminal evidence?
I dont see the point of the cameras been implemented if they havent perform the work they were mainly installed to perform.

[/quote]Funny. . . Do fire alarms need to work before you know that they are required?

[quote author=sd-6 link=topic=502834.msg6654231#msg6654231 date=1282980099]What about taking plummet to mean a degeneration? You fools don't know the contextual part of english. This makes your ineptitude more conspicuous. They still have refused to learn,[/quote]Abeg stop talking!!! Stop disgracing Nigeria.

Accept your errors, swallow your pride and move on with life.

BTW, this forum is open to the whole world. And the only thing they care about is that you are Nigerian. So, please stop disgracing us!!!

Is this thread for real

She/he will spend all the 4 years of the tenure arguing with everybody. . . . ROFLMAO

Action is not by mouth.

@poster

You don't have to tell lies. Every coin has 2 sides, and only a mature, objective mind understands positive criticism.

The biggest problem/drawback Nigeria has is its people, and unfortunately, the same negative people who really have nothing good to say/see about Nigeria are the ones who become Governors, Senators and Presidents.

Again. . . Good thing the guy is being honest with you.

And in relationships, people compromise. I do something for you and you do something for me. Forget all the love talk. . . God's love conquers all . . . not man's love.

If girls can ask their men to quit smoking or drinking for them etc. why can't the girl lose some weight for the guy's sake.

BTW losing weight will be more beneficial to you than him.

@OP It is good for him to tell you about your weight, but maybe he needs to be a little bit more considerate and understanding. But there is nothing wrong with him advising you to lose some weight.

@post

From what i read, your fiance expressed concerns about your weight but he did not say he was backing off from the wedding. Weight may be a sensitive issue for big sized people, but it didn't sound like your man was trying to be insensitive about the issue. I think you should appreciate a man that is trying to be open with you (in a sensitive way) rather than feeling bad about it.

Also, like other people have said, you need to look inwards. If you are fat, maybe you need to try and lose weight for health reasons. Let him know how you have been trying, and tell him that you need his moral support and encouragement to make significant progress because its not very easy.

You sounded like you have been happy so far, so think carefully and critically before you end your relationship.

@post

I see your point. But if you consider the duration of time that all these roads and other infrastructure have been neglected and the negative attitude of many Lagosians/Nigerians to positive change, then you should also be able to appreciate that it will take a huge amount of effort before we will see positive change in almost every aspect of Lagos state.

Remember that development is not a one time thing, but a continuous activity, and most Fashola supporters see a man that will continue to provide positive change, against all odds.

Kobojunkie:
OH MY GOSH!!! What is with all the blood . . .

[quote author=Sharon_f link=topic=496433.msg6569109#msg6569109 date=1281721854]look at the blood on the car and on the people. . . what a brutal system[/quote]

folanusi:
Damn, , Nigeria is Scary
@Sharon_f
I agree with you, , what a brutal system

I'm trying to understand all your posts. . . Is it the fact that the blood wasn't cleaned up or you know of a better way of shooting armed robbers without causing them to bleed

It seems these "fake corps" members are victims of the system rather than collaborators. The people that should be arrested are the NYSC officers who are responsible for this orientation camp.

Lets face facts. . .

If they were truly living in SA illegally, then there is nothing to complain about.

But if the deportees were living legally in SA, then Naija should not take it sitting down.

Rules are rules. . . whether we like it or not, to be in SA still requires a visa.

People. . especially medical professionals need to be careful about what they say. Or maybe reporters have taken his words out of context.

Even though what he says is true. . . it is not very common.

It is like saying if you run, you will trip over a stone, knock your head on a huge rock and die. It can happen, but its not that common.

@ post

If u want to contest to be governor of Lagos 2011, then start your own campaign.

I don't think i'm the only person tired of all your smear campaign.

Abeg, organize your own campaign, make u become governor, and then we go see how u go perform.

Mr fire.

Your rants are becoming excessive and immature.

Please act mature and stop disgracing Nigerians.

ROFLMAO!!!

He he he

With all this popularity - both negative and positive. Its clear to see that there must be something special about Governor Fashola. LOL. . .

Everything that happens in Lagos is always such a big deal.

Beaf:
^
Even you "science" is faulty. The first thing you will think of in that position, will be to protect your head and softer parts. Break fall ke!

This is not science bro, its common sense.

And i know you don't protect your head by putting both hands in front of your body.

ROFLMAO!!!

He he he he

This picture just shows that people will see whatever they choose to see irrespective of the true situation of things.

No matter how much you try explain, some people will only see one thing.

Anyway, the orange seller on the ground with both elbows and knees stuck in that position betrays this model.

When normal people fall down, they reflexly brace themselves by stretching at least one arm out to break their fall.

Fixing the airports is a good thing, but what is with the 90 days ultimatum.

These reps have been part of the same government even before the minister came along, so they should take blame for the degradation, and should be working with the minister to ensure that the renovations/upgrades can be done in 90 days. Thus that same ultimatum should also apply to them.

But the problem with Naija politics is that even when "good" politicians want to do "good" things, there will be other politicians standing in their way. This attitude of impeding other people, so that they don't take the glory of (becoming more popular) doing something good seems to be becoming an African tradition.

And if we never discover the advantages of working together towards a common goal, we will always be the way we are.

@Post

It is kinda funny. . .

You try to make it seem like you are being scientific with your theory, yet you break the same rules when people have asked you to apply the same theory to some other other scenarios.

You have to be able to say what you really want to say. It doesn't have to make sense for some people to agree with you.

But by trying to prove sense with something that is completely senseless is quite insulting.

9jawear:
there is nothing to rejoice about,nigeria @ 50 is nothing to ordinary masses.we are spending billions on an occasion,when millions of nigerians are jobless,roaming the streets,crime is on the increase,girls have no jobs resorting to prostitution,and some oldies,pot bellied looters still want to loot and chop our money,no way,goodluck should do the unthinkable and declare october 1st as an international day of mourning for nigeria,nigeria is a failed state,we are failing everywhere, see ghana,ghana is growing,while we are still deceiving ourselves that we are the Giant of Africa.

@post

Absolute crap!!!
If you were the Nigerian President, would you do the same thing If you wouldn't then stop suggesting it!!!

A lot of Nairaland "freedom fighters" only speak because whatever happens really doesn't affect them.

And why do people always bring Ghana into the picture? Ghana is growing? So what? You don't want Ghana to grow? You sound so selfish?

And this kind of mentality will be what will always drive Africa backwards.

BTW, Goodluck doesn't have to declare anything. If you choose to mourn on Nigeria's independence day, feel free to. And you can also mourn Ghana's independence too. . . because they are growing

doyin13:
Fashola's public relations machine impresses more and more by the day. . . .

I make this the third youtube channel dedicated to him. . . . .

Fashola o ni baje oo

If there was nothing for his "PR machinery" to show, they would have started showing the same things over and over. But he is doing a lot of stuff that is worth showing.

I think his transparency is something to be admired by other governors. If other governors had to show their activities on youtube, at least they will try to do something that is worth showing.

@post

Just wondering what the "From Enugu" in the title is all about.

For me, it doesn't matter where he is from. Results will be what determines his capability. Not his town of origin.

[quote author=Sisi_Kill link=topic=466270.msg6261039#msg6261039 date=1277204490]Girl is walking to her car, it's dark out and she's a little scared but tries not to show it. Her steps quicken when she hears slight movement behind her, she's about to break into a run when she's grabbed from behind and shoved behind a dumpster. Her attacker tears at her clothes, leaving no doubt what his intentions are.

She whimpers and pleads for her life but he does not relent. He pulls down  her underwear and just before he penetrates, she musters all the energy in her and says. . . "My condom! Please let me wear my rapist capturing condom.

Her attacker stops, gives her a puzzled look and says. . ."Alright but hurry up ok, because I don't know how much longer I can wait."


Yep! I can soooo see this condom thingy working. Matter of fact, I'm going to get mine right now. Watch out you soft hearted, amiable rapist, your day of reckoning is round the corner.


Seriously though is a girl supposed to walk around with the condom IN her in anticipation of being despoiled? Abi how does this work?[/quote]LOL

I guess she is supposed to know approximately when she is going to be R.aped and instead of doing all she can to avoid being in the situation, she just puts on her rapist catcher female condom.

I agree with paddy_lo's views.

People who are saying that there is a disconnect between the economic growth on paper and the actual situation on ground are only stating the obvious.

And where does that lead us? Nowhere.

In life one thing leads to another, if there is no economic growth, we can't even dream of making situations in Naija better, but paddy_lo is only stating that there has been progress with evidence.

So instead of all these "one country is better than Naija" talk. We can talk progressive, about how to link our economic growth to better standards of living.

@mikeansy

your analysis was perfect.

The Naija team was a disaster waiting to happen. it was only a matter of time for someone to make a mistake. That someone could have been any of the players on the pitch, or even Coach lagerback himself.

Unfortunately (fortunately for some people here), it was kaita.

And who is to blame for this awful perfomance? Most of the blame goes to the NFF, poor preparation, planning, organization, decisions.

So, abeg, make una no kill kaita. If he wasn't good enough, the blame still ultimately goes to the NFF, they hire a coach a few weeks to world cup, he doesn't have enough time to really know his players, he goes along with the same old team, and no matter what his technical abilities, he couldn't have prevented kaita or any of the other 10 players from making a mistake.

Heck, all the goals we conceived were due to mistakes from somebody!!!

Amhatu:
In my opinion ,Nigerian Footbal Federation (NFF)Hired a coach  humilating Amodu and using fear tactics during African Cup of nations, distracting Amudo  about his job through the media during his tenure .
(Thats only one thing many others regarding contract etc) search what Amodu said about it and others on the forum like Sagamite

I agree that the NFF may have been unfair to Amodu.

My reasons are, even though he was one of the problems (he seems technically incompetent), there are many other problems with the way footbal is being run in Nigeria.

Selection of players is obviously faulty ( over half of them are obviously unfit), Football management and planning is also deficient (there is no continuity with the way everything is being handled)

Anytime you go into a fight without a proper plan, you will never win.

Even if the greatest coach in the world had to handle the current super eagles team, he will be thoroughly shamed.

12large:
ziegla your a bASTAR.D how did keita played well from day 1 i knew keita was useless`

Na ur papa papas papa be baS.tard. Oloshi radarada!!!