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Gombs: However, Melchizedek had no parents that are mentioned in Scripture. His position as priest did not depend on his parents or his genealogy (unlike the Levitical priests). His priesthood was a different kind, a different order. Similarly, Scripture says nothing about his birth or death (unlike the patriarchs, who are carefully chronicled). He did not create a dynasty of priests, each dying and passing the priesthood to a son.

Now from the above we can see that the Levite's priesthood aint same as Melchizedek's. But the bible said he had no Parents..how then did you conclude he was a man? Bible also said he like the Son of God will be a priest forever! Hence making tithing a eternal principle.

Gombs: However, Melchizedek had no parents that are mentioned in Scripture. His position as priest did not depend on his parents or his genealogy (unlike the Levitical priests). His priesthood was a different kind, a different order. Similarly, Scripture says nothing about his birth or death (unlike the patriarchs, who are carefully chronicled). He did not create a dynasty of priests, each dying and passing the priesthood to a son.

Now from the above we can see that the Levite's priesthood aint same as Melchizedek's. But the bible said he had no Parents..how then did you conclude he was a man? Bible also said he like the Son of God will be a priest forever!

Gombs: Let me school you a bit

Gombs: It begins with a quick summary of the story in Genesis
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"This Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him, and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything" ( Heb. 7:1-2 ).

First, the unusual name is explained. The Hebrew word melek means king, and tsedek means righteousness, so his name is explained as meaning "king of righteousness."
And since shalom means peace, he was also the "king of peace" (v. 2).
These titles are significant because Melchizedek prefigures Jesus Christ. Then we are told that Melchizedek was "without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of God he remains a priest forever" (v. 3).

However, Melchizedek had no parents that are mentioned in Scripture. His position as priest did not depend on his parents or his genealogy (unlike the Levitical priests). His priesthood was a different kind, a different order. Similarly, Scripture says nothing about his birth or death (unlike the patriarchs, who are carefully chronicled). He did not create a dynasty of priests, each dying and passing the priesthood to a son.

Gombs: Isn't Jesus of same priesthood as Melchizedek?

Gombs: Isn't Jesus of same priesthood as Melchizedek?

Joagbaje: Tithes and offerings don't belong to the pastors. Pastors have their own jobs and businesses , and pastor give tithes and offerings like any other christian. Pastoring is only a responsibility .

Joagbaje: We are not tithing because the law says so. It existed before the law.

Alwaystrue: The New Commandment He gave is an addition and did not abolish the others.

Ihedinobi: I will thank you, Zikkyy, to not drag this thread into the mockery and insolence that characterises discussions involving the tithe. If my thoughts on tithing are unacceptable to you, by all means, ignore them or decorously point out what's wrong with them.

Alwaystrue: It was not me that said Malachi 3:8, so why are you feeling threatened? I am not God that said He was robbed in TITHES AND OFFERINGS

theoctopus: I am sorry but you seem to be interpreting the Word of God to suit your purpose. Why are you trying to explain God's word to fit your doctrine? It is self explanatory. It is only when a man is trying to create a wrong doctrine out of it that he starts to create meanings which are not there. Jesus was very clear, He called tithing a lesser matter of the law and said the pharisees ought to do the weightier matters along with tithing. He said that because they were still in the old testament. They were still under the law. The law of Moses ended with the death and resurrection of Jesus. Jesus himself lived in the old testament. He was speaking to old testament people. These things are so simple and clear, you need help to actually misunderstand it. Jesus performed old testament offering of animals along with the Jews.

Alwaystrue: @theoctopus
In both lights that Jesus castigated those tithing I hope you noted He gave reasons why?

Also did you notice for instance one said he fast twice a week, yet we also know Jesus said 'This goesth not out but by fasting and prayer' so was he castigating fasting there? The guy was just being pompous and pointing out the other sinner to God.

In the other, He said they were tithing and neglecting the weigtheir aspects of the law....but did you see what He concluded with....He said they should do both (loving, justice, mercy, tithing) and I hope you know tithing was not done only by the Pharisees? In that place there was even a multitude.

Alwaystrue: Like I said it is obvious many have still not read the thread. All these questions have been answered.

Alwaystrue: God spoke about TITHES AND OFFERINGS...not just tithes in (Malachi 3: 8 ).....TITHES AND OFFERINGS have been given since the time of Abraham. If you do not have a problem with offerings then I really wonder why tithes is the issue....that is the hypocrisy of it all.

debosky: Tithe is not a general term that you can expand or contract to mean whatsoever you want it to - it has a specific definition - 10%. Lev. 27:30 & 32

Ihedinobi: I think it is safe to say that if you walk in disobedience, you labor under a curse and there is a command in the tithe. If we do not care for those of our own number who have need or have been given spiritual charge over us then we are under a curse and not a blessing. Whether it is the tenth thaf we devote to this service or it is more or less does not make it the tithe today, as far as I know. What does is whether it is given to provide for the House of the Lord.

Candour: And somebody will tell me they don't force people to pay.

How will a weak Christian not rush to pay after reading this?

Where's Abraham's example in that write up? Tithing as practiced today in Nigeria is not of principles, Its of MOSAIC LAW

idnoble135: Like you said, the word was spoken for the young man to have eternal life.
We must not forget that the young man said he already obeyed the law of Moses from his youth.
Under the dispensation, obeying the law was all that was needed to gain eternal life (because we already learned in Romans that the law was ordained to life).
In this era, we do not give to gain eternal life. Because Christ has given it to us via His death and resurrection.

Joagbaje: Galatians 3:7
Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

We are followers of abrahamic faith. Who is the father of faith. If we are children abraham we ought to follow ABRAHAM faith.

I'm impressed so far from recent feedback that many posters and tithers have deeper understanding of these things better now.


. . . To be continued in a moment.

Goshen360: As the Apostles did all these ^ above to their listeners. Big brother, The Grace is sufficient for me, I'm determined to return home after I'm done here to fight these corruption in the body of Christ in Nigeria. The Lord keep you till then, you will be alive to hear testimonies. These gospel merchants must be chased out of business, then the Lord shall come for the church without spot and wrinkle.

OLAADEGBU: Am all ears.

OLAADEGBU: Tell me more.

OLAADEGBU: God's law was written on Jacob's heart and he didn't hesitate to do the right thing unlike folks that find it difficult to obey what the written in Scriptures. Jacob got rid of his idols even before the giving of the 1st and 2nd commandments.

OLAADEGBU: The Naija man's wallet in particular doesn't easily give way to the Lord, their money is their life and soul of their being as we can see on this board.

OLAADEGBU: What we know is that Jacob whose name later became Israel vowed to give 10% of all that the Lord gave him. The rest is now history.

"....I will surely give the tenth to you" (Genesis 28:20-22).

OLAADEGBU: Both Gentile and Jewish believers didn't have a problem with tithing they were happy to give a 100% of their possession (Acts 4:32-37).

OLAADEGBU: Robbers, prostitutes etc don't pay tithes, if they give anything at all they give freewill offering. Are you saying as a pastor you never collected freewill offerings in your church? Be truthful.

OLAADEGBU: You tell me. Do you pay prostitutes by swiping your credit card?

OLAADEGBU: I understand that human nature would not naturally want to part with his money. The tithe is the final frontier to be conquered when it comes to surrendering ones life to Christ.

OLAADEGBU: "For I say to you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 5:20).

God expects us to worship Him in Spirit and in Truth. We worship God with our tithes in appreciation of the blessing He has bestowed on us not because we are under the law. God requires truth in our inward parts. He considers hatred to be murder(1 John 3:15); Lust in our hearts as adultery (Matt 5:28). God weighs our motives and judges the intent of our hearts. The freedom we have in Christ gives us greater responsibilities than the OT saints. Therefore, believers in Christ are obliged to give more than the tithe towards the work of God.

christemmbassey: when robbers, prosti.tutes, ritualists, satanists, witches/wizards etc pay tithe to u, do u reject? U see ya life? Imagine d implication, bro, U R COMMITING 'DOUBLE SIN' 1. U r nt a LEVITE, 2. D tithes u collect are abominations. Ola, repent, while u still can, greed in itself, is a sin.

OLAADEGBU: Do your maths. What is 10% of 50 tubers of yam? and if you are still got no clue convert it into cash you might have some joy there.

OLAADEGBU: Get an afterlife!