LemonBoy1: D trinitarians / catholics in ds thread need nt waste their strength nd time xplaining the HOLY TRINITY, reasn because " Its beyond Human reasoning nd comprehension" nd dts y here in Catholic Church its called "the Mystrey of The Holy Trinity" sch dt even His Holiness (The Pope) himself won't venture exhausting ds issue for fear of blasphemy sef. So my fellow trinitarians, GOD'S ESSENCE can't be fully comprehended evn by angels nt 2 talk of humans sef

Jutresbien:

Why are we different from animals if we cannot reason logically and draw conclusions? The only reason y the trinity doctrine cannot be explained is that it is false. The truth is so so glaring. I wish you could just step away for a while and examine the facts and let the scriptures speak for themselves.

LemonBoy1:

in dt case, u nd animals r dsame. U av never seen God, bt u believe in God dt He exists? Y? Y wil u believe smbody's own reasoning (cos u were actualy taught so by sm one) dt God exists when u av nt seen God wit ur 2 eyes?

LemonBoy1: D trinitarians / catholics in ds thread need nt waste their strength nd time xplaining the HOLY TRINITY, reasn because " Its beyond Human reasoning nd comprehension " nd dts y here in Catholic Church its called "the Mystrey of The Holy Trinity" sch dt even His Holiness (The Pope) himself won't venture exhausting ds issue for fear of blasphemy sef. So my fellow trinitarians, GOD'S ESSENCE can't be fully comprehended evn by angels nt 2 talk of humans sef

"No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared him ". -John 1:18 (King James' Version)

"And we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us understanding so that we can know the true God . And now we live in fellowship with the true God because we live in fellowship with his Son, Jesus Christ. He is the only true God, and he is eternal life." -1 John 5:20 (New Living Translation)

"And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God , and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." -John 17:3 (English Standard Version)

LemonBoy1: D trinitarians / catholics in ds thread need nt waste their strength nd time xplaining the HOLY TRINITY, reasn because " Its beyond Human reasoning nd comprehension" nd dts y here in Catholic Church its called "the Mystrey of The Holy Trinity" sch dt even His Holiness (The Pope) himself won't venture exhausting ds issue for fear of blasphemy sef. So my fellow trinitarians, GOD'S ESSENCE can't be fully comprehended evn by angels nt 2 talk of humans sef

Boomark:

What the Pope believed and is afraid of is not what the bible teach. It is not what the apostles who are filled with the holyspirit taught us. Beware! Evil spirits are everywhere putting fear in people.

But when you have the word of God, you can stand the devil and his agents anywhere and wount fear them. Christ rebuked every of satan's temptation from the scripture.

Oahray: Why believe something that defies all reasoning? Just because a group of Bishop's under Connstantine in the first council of Nicea claimed that was what every christian should believe. Didnt the catholic church teach that Jesus was born in December 25th too. Recently, the Pope admitted it wasnt true. Talk about infallibility of the church. Would you rather believe your church over the bible? The bible is the basis for christian beliefs today. Check out what it says about God being an unexplainable mystery:
Yes, Jesus being different from his Father, declared or explained the Father so that we might know Him. If God was a total mystery, why did Jesus bother?
We have been given understanding so that we can KNOW the only true God. This would give eternal life. Yes! The true God isnt a mysterious being that cant be known.
This verse shows who the true God is- He is the one who sent Jesus. The Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD. If we do not know their true identity as two distinct unequal beings, how do we put faith in whom we do not know? How can we have the eternal life promised here?
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Trinitarians how is it you want to make God a mystery, when Jesus and the Bible revealed Him?

NOBODY DENIES THAT GOD THE FATHER DOES NOT EXIST OR SEND JESUS.
BUT JESUS IS ONE WITH HIS FATHER IN EVERY ESSENCE.AGAIN I KNOW YOU ARE A JEHOVAS WITNESS
That is going against what Jesus stood for.
It is the baseless and unexplainable doctrine that is a mystery, not true identity of God and Jesus.
That Trinity docrine seeks to veil the eyes of people so they would never truly know God or have life.
It is simply anti-Christ!

adventisty: The analogy of an egg best explain this: The parts are three but still one each with distinct functions.
Also, using a three in one stereo which has a cassette cormpartment, a radio and a CD compartment but it is still one Unit.
Or A machine which is mono block that has a rinser, a filling and a capping units all in one block.
You do not refer to these aformentioned analogy as different but one.

TroGunn:

And I suppose you have backing from the Bible that God is like an egg, a stereo or a machine in composistion.

How about you just accept this simple explanation:

Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah - Deutronomy 6:4
That they may know that thou alone, whose name is Jehovah, Art the Most High over all the earth. - Psalms 83:18

Jehova's Witness

matrix789:

No body doubts this verse just 1 Jn5:7 there are 3 that bear record in heaven and they are 1.

TroGunn:

A lot of Trinitarian scholars nowadays accept that this verse was not written by John. Having access to collections of hundreds of manuscripts, modern scholars are able to determine this verse was introduced into the Bible long after John wrote this letter. Most Bible translations got rid of it.

Read more about this spurious verse here --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_Johanneum

tevinsolt: i guess John was talking of someone else, oh mhen why didn't Jesus correct Thomas for worshiping him? blasphemy?

why did he forgive sins? when only God can.......

i guess it is irrational to think Jesus was God in flesh because the father was greater than when he was a man.......but wait Jesus had to worship God too, because he was fully man, and the bible says Yahweh is the God of ALL flesh

why did the angel stopped John from worshiping him, but Jesus didn't?

why did he refer to himself as the alpha and omega, the eternal God?

and why would God share his glory with a man, if Jesus is certainly a man?

why did he said to the disciples to go and make disciples baptizing in the name of the Father, Son and Holy spirit?

matrix789:

OK TEHRE ARE MANY INTERNET MATERIALS EVEN MAMMON and RUSSELIST.
but if this bible is being contested then i cant go further.Remember in the last days a lot of Anti-chist teaching will appear.
1 John 5:7 is now not bible because it supports TRINITY.
kudos

tevinsolt: isn't flesh part of God's creation?

you are contradicting yourself, nowhere does the bible says God is one person

neither is there the word trinity in it...

but the bible obviously and unmistakeably shows there's a tri-une God by reading John we can determine, since he came to dwell among men ..........him being the "Son of God" refers to the humanity of Jesus. Clearly the humanity of Jesus is not eternal but was born in Bethlehem. Galatians 4:4 says, "But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law."

We know that Jesus as God pre-existed the Incarnation, since the deity of Jesus is none other than the Father Himself. (John 14:10)

Law-confessor:


I wonder oo......but no mind him jare
I don pardon him tete

Femmymata2: U really impress me. As atheist i'm dissapointed with ifeness comment but it shows u are really matured

matrix789:

JEHOVAS WITNESS

matrix789:

OK TEHRE ARE MANY INTERNET MATERIALS EVEN MAMMON and RUSSELIST.
but if this bible is being contested then i cant go further.Remember in the last days a lot of Anti-chist teaching will appear.
1 John 5:7 is now not bible because it supports TRINITY.
kudos

tevinsolt: Jesus is God, that's the bottom line of the entire New Testament. 1 Timothy 3:16, Colossians 2:9, John 1:1, 1:14. The scripture in Philippians 2:6-8 may be translated as follows: "For He, though eternally possessing the divine nature, did not regard His existing-in-a-manner-equal-with-God (i.e., His deity or divinity) as something to be (selfishly) maintained, but He emptied Himself in that He assumed a servant's nature and appeared as a man, becoming obedient to death. Thought it not robbery to be equal to God means that Christ decided not to continue to enjoy the reverence due Him as God. He never laid aside his deity but he allowed sinful men to blaspheme him, scourge him and nail him to the cross. The ultimate expression of humility and obedience came from God manifest in the flesh himself.