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Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by pheesayor(m): 11:51am On Dec 26, 2012 |
ballabriggs: I live in festac, an abandoned federal Estate. some roads meant to fixed by the federal housing Authority are being fixed by the local government with funds meant for other things/areas |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by anulaxad(m): 12:11pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
pheesayor:you live festac my uncle lives there do you know mr.adenuga not (mike adeunuga ) |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by talktimi(m): 12:32pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
pheesayor: I was in akwaibom for a Conference in July and the deputy governor was there baosting that there's no single lot hole in the whole of Uyo, I told someone that 'take the population of Lagos, human and vehicular to akwaibom and watch those infrastructures crumble in a few months'. I've said that here before.. Point taken but you seem not to understand where I'm coming from. I'm not comparing the state of roads btw the two states, I said Akpabio is also a performer compared with Victor Attah the former governor who performed miserably in Akwa Ibom. So Akpabio should be on the same par with Fashola if not higher because of the humongous task he met and the fact that he had to practically build the state capital for example from scratch but you've made your point. Thank you |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by sshalom(m): 12:48pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
This is a heated and well debated thread I must admit. For anyone who cares to know; Fashola has done more in terms of health care than most. I had a first hand experience of his determination to improve that sector when my wife had our second child at the ISOLO General Hospital. At the time of her delivery, the new hospital was being finished. By the time I drove her there after two months, the massive edifice was ready and fully equipped. I was taken aback by the quality of the work, facilities and the sheer magnitude of equipments on display. I was forced to ask a senior nurse who works there to confirm whether the Governor actually started the project or if it dated back to days of former Governor Bola Tinubu and she confirmed that it was Fashola that started and completed it. One could also go to Gbagada, Surulere and Ayinke House to see major projects in this regards. Now the question that should bother all of us is: Has he done enough to justify the resources at his disposal? While the jury is out on this, my take is that he is doing his best. We should however not shy away from raising questions on the performances or otherwise of our leaders. This is the only way we can keep them on their toes! 1 Like |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by talktimi(m): 12:58pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
anulaxad:I'm in a quagmire here as I don't know whether to keep silent or join you in your gutter. But you're very funny sha, its obvious you were not properly brought up by your parents hence your lack of respect for elders and those in authority its also obvious that your educational foundation is very poor hence your bad placement of words and malapropism making it slightly difficult to understand your rantings. I can't tell you not to insult me as its entirely up to you to do what you will I only asked that you show some modicum of respect for those in authority. |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by thelastPope(m): 2:21pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
pheesayor: I was in akwaibom for a Conference in July and the deputy governor was there baosting that there's no single lot hole in the whole of Uyo, I told someone that 'take the population of Lagos, human and vehicular to akwaibom and watch those infrastructures crumble in a few months'. I've said that here before. Does Uyo generate the IGR that Lagos generates? Some of you keep putting out this funny population argument. The population is as much an advantage as it could be a disadvantage. Fashola is using the advantage with fat IGR every month, so the excuse of population is not tenable! The average of 30 billion monthly IGR is enough to build a new city. That is over 2 trillion in 6 years! That is exclusive of FG allocation. |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by ba7man(m): 2:25pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
talktimi: . Point taken but you seem not to understand where I'm coming from. I'm not comparing the state of roads btw the two states, I said Akpabio is also a performer compared with Victor Attah the former governor who performed miserably in Akwa Ibom. So Akpabio should be on the same par with Fashola if not higher because of the humongous task he met and the fact that he had to practically build the state capital for example from scratch but you've made your point. Thank youAkpabio transformed the state Capital of UYO....Fashola is transforming the whole state of Lagos. And i hope you're aware that you can't compare the amount of work he has to do to the work available in any state. |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by horlatunde(m): 2:33pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
Dis is surely 4rm anoda foolish PDP apologist... If u claim fashola did not build a single road in his tenure in lagos, u are so blind to see d green revolution in some part of lagos. U futher mention private companies doing every thing. Have u ever heard of PPP b4. Wen LASU was 25k it was full of all agency of Cult groups, infact Lasu became the hub 4 Cult groups bt since d fee was increase wen last did u hear Negative News abt Lasu? U equally talk abt hospitals, well u can be living at Ogijo nt far 4rm ikorudu or Agbara and claim to live in Lagos. Cos am sure u re nt a Lagosian, so if u re tired of lagos, sell ur house and Move elsewhere. . |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by horlatunde(m): 2:39pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
thelastPope:. Why nt Give kudos to d Man 4 generating dat much. Is kano nt more populous dan Lagos? Is oyo state nt almost d same as Lagos state.? U just memtion d IGR, can u compare d FG allocation with dat of Akwa ibom... U make ur research Akwa iboms F.G allocation is far much dan Lagos IGR plus Allocation if nt *2... Abeg fashola is d Best joor |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by Ashmark(m): 2:40pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
Fashola has really performed great in Lagos State but let me tell you not in anyway compared to what Akpabio has done in Akwa Ibom...I was fortunate to be their last month..But I thing that I notice is that it's only Uyo dt is dvelopd in Akwa-Ibom nd smal part of Ikot Ekpenne..Bt in terms of good road network,Akwa Ibom is d best..They're oil producin state so dnt really get surprise. |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by ba7man(m): 2:42pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
And pls stop comparing Akwa-Ibom to Lagos b'cos they aint in d same League. Ukpabio's effect is highly felt in Uyo which is barely as big as Ikeja. Mean while u forget there are no bush lined express roads in Lagos since its fully developed. Let's say d developed areas in Lagos are for example 400Km sqr, The total area of development in Akwa-Ibom can't be more than 120km sqr. And they collect N40billion while Lagos gets 30billion. Nigerians deserve the Leaders they get, instead of questioning their leaders the poke their eyes in other people's bizness. |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by ba7man(m): 2:50pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
Ashmark: Fashola has really performed great in Lagos State but let me tell you not in anyway compared to what Akpabio has done in Akwa Ibom...I was fortunate to be their last month..But I thing that I notice is that it's only Uyo dt is dvelopd in Akwa-Ibom nd smal part of Ikot Ekpenne..Bt in terms of good road network,Akwa Ibom is d best..They're oil producin state so dnt really get surprise.Thank you, Its like Fashola working on only Ikeja and we screamin that he's done a good job. They forget the numerous locations bigger than Uyo all joined together to make up Lagos. Victoria Island, Ikoyi, Lekki, Lagos island,Apapa, Ikeja, Oshodi etc...all as big as or bigger than Uyo and his effect is felt all over those places. Una wan kill d guy?? Even with Tinubu breathing down his neck. |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by ba7man(m): 3:15pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
If Lagos receives 2 more Governors like Fashola, Lagos can kiss Nigeria goodbye. Its already ahead nd the rest can only scream, moan and point fingers. I even want this country divided so we can all face our bizness. |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by frevangel(m): 3:36pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
One would think the ACN apologists would show pictures of development to dispute the points by theLastPope but nay, they do what they have being taught best to do, being vulgar! I have lived in Benin and Lagos and have being to other states where there is developments but I can categorically say Fashola is a hype! It is not about being a PDP apologist because Oshiomole, another ACN governor, has been called a performer by everyone! Like I said earlier, I lived in Benin for many years and also shuffling Lagos. I'm based in Lagos for some years and I'm yet to see what these guys hail Fashola for. The real projects I can commend Fashola for are mostly PPP, funded by the private sector! Fashola has repeatedly promote anti-masses policies, from education, transportation, health care etc. I would say Fashola is an average governor, he is not in the class of governors like Akpabio, Duke, the late Yar' Adua, Oshiomole to name a few. 1 Like |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by ba7man(m): 3:46pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
fr_evangel: One would think the ACN apologists would show pictures of development to dispute the points by theLastPope but nay, they do what they have being taught best to do, being vulgar!Let me punch a hole in your logic. Benin is a City, Lagos is a state. Compare Benin to Ikeja as they are both Capitals. Can you see they aint in the same league. Are u all BLIND Aren't you tired of seeing pictures?? @Babapupa kept posting pics on one of these smear threads and you all keep saying you're not seeing pictures. Go and google the pics up if you really keen on seein his acheivements or sit down in Benin and leave Lagos alone. |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by seunajia: 4:37pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
talktimi: first of all you were making good points but I'm surprised at the level of immaturity you decided to delve into, really shocking. In all arguments it is always important to have empirical evidence of all statements made so as not to be called a liar or even sued for libel as the case may be. Besides I have this unshakable belief that if you were one on one with the president now, you would never insult him so let's keep things straight here. You are not my moral compass. If anyone should counsel anyone, the moment you typed that isht you typed, you lost that right. You're asking us to discard objectivity and agree with you that Fashola has not done anything at-all, NO? I shouldn't even be discussing with you, with the perfidy you have exhibited. If the Nigerian youths were not as docile as they are now, you and the nepostic idi.ots awarding contracts-- which you may not deserve --to you would be in jail. |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by kakaG: 4:39pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
Una dey make too much noise o! Let us enjoy this hols abeg. For those of you who claim Fashola is working list the projects he has successfully accomplished for everyone to read here. At least the poster has given a clear picture from his angle na. If you feel Fashiola is working simply list his achievements in education, health, infrastructure, roads and whatever. Shilenan! 1 Like |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by ba7man(m): 4:56pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
They keep opening these threads asking for pictures...they provide them with pics and they claim they're not seeing anything. Are they blind??.. I was thinking they were on-to somthing till they started mentioning UYO as an example of a working environment. Why won't it work? When you spend 40billion on developing an area barely larger than Ketu. They're now questioning a man spending less to run one of the most populated States in the world. |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by tpia5: 5:17pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
kaka G: Una dey make too much noise o! Let us enjoy this hols abeg. For those of you who claim Fashola is working list the projects he has successfully accomplished for everyone to read here. At least the poster has given a clear picture from his angle na. If you feel Fashiola is working simply list his achievements in education, health, infrastructure, roads and whatever. Shilenan! If you and your folks need ideas to copy, just ask, no need to beat around the bush in this jungle manner. Yorubas are not stingy with development! Just ask for help and you'll be obliged! |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by talktimi(m): 8:37pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
sshalom: This is a heated and well debated thread I must admit. For anyone who cares to know; Fashola has done more in terms of health care than most. I had a first hand experience of his determination to improve that sector when my wife had our second child at the ISOLO General Hospital. At the time of her delivery, the new hospital was being finished. By the time I drove her there after two months, the massive edifice was ready and fully equipped.Oga thank you very much I like your objectivity although my own argument on this thread is that Fashola is over hyped but I can never say he didn't work at all, this is a thread that needs objective arguments like yours without invectives. |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by addey(m): 8:51pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
thelastPope: Big question for these ACN trolls on NL Fool! - know u are paid to do dis, but can u pls show me one thing ur uncle Ebele did when he was in Bayelsa and since he came to power in Nigeria. |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by addey(m): 8:52pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
thelastPope: Big question for these ACN trolls on NL Fool! - know u are paid to do dis, but can u pls show me one thing ur uncle Ebele did when he was in Bayelsa and since he came to power in Nigeria. |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by talktimi(m): 9:29pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
seunajia:. Number one I have never said Fashola didn't do anything in Lagos state, I am a born and bred Surulere guy and I know how Lagos was while growing up and I know how it is now as for your aspect of me being in jail by now because of the supply contracts I managed to get, I doubt your street credibility in Lagos because one thing I was taught while growing up in Aguda was how to be independent so in the worst case scenario, you might actually be a mummy's boy eating daddy's money which makes you hate those that learnt the ropes the hard way so I won't apologise to you for any reason whatsoever. It seems the main reason why you hate and insult me the way you do is because I asked you to stop insulting your elders and those in authority I don't think that's a bad advice because even your pastor/imam would say the same thing. I owe you no apology and as I've said earlier I won't tell you not to insult me as your doing so won't affect me either positively or negatively I only ask that we have matured arguments on this thread without invectives. |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by emiye(m): 9:46pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
talktimi: . Point taken but you seem not to understand where I'm coming from. I'm not comparing the state of roads btw the two states, I said Akpabio is also a performer compared with Victor Attah the former governor who performed miserably in Akwa Ibom. So Akpabio should be on the same par with Fashola if not higher because of the humongous task he met and the fact that he had to practically build the state capital for example from scratch but you've made your point. Thank you I don't think you understand the situation of Akwa-ibom during Obong attah's regime. Attah was earning roughly 25% of what Akpabio is earning now, Akwa ibom has won lots of oil fields which were hitherto classified as belonging to other states initially, including all of cross river, part of rivers, delta e.t.c. in the last 6 years , that translates to greater revenue. Attah did not have the kind of revenue Akpabio has now. You can do your research to find out. Akwa-ibom also have an annual budget 75%-80% of lagos state. |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by iconics: 11:09pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
Judging I'm looking forward to a thread where there ll be no insults only objective arguments. I however want an answer from those who say lagos is over populated, what indices are you using to arive at such conclusion? |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by iconics: 11:21pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
Economic, social, tribal or .... |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by Proffruleoflaw: 11:56pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
This has really gotten to me....I wish I can smack this PDP ar.e lickers. 1. Fashola has been the best governor in Nigeria every year from 2007, even on Nairaland. 2. Fashola has shown even if he didn't perform up to ur expectations that 'it can be done' and that leaders lead by example. His actions,utterances give right thinking individuals hope. Am not talking about desperados whose only job is to make money to feed their families like 'okada riders' without consideration for the hundreds of others maimed everyday and families denied the love and affection of their loved ones. Meanwhile motocycles were banned not motobikes, morons. 3. I have lived most of my life in Lagos and I can say confidently that Tinubu is a visionary leader (with faults though maybe he too like money) allowing a relatively unknown Fashola to continue his works. Fashola started the reconstruction of Agege Stadium which was used during the last games in Lagos and all the adjoining streets were upgraded, I mean u need to know how these roads and drainanges were to appreciate what was accomplished. 4. The PDP apologist won't see the good in Fashola simply because the have no template to compare his achievements to that of their thieving compatriots. Oshiomole publicly aknowledged Fash as a mentor so 'if' he does more than him that's ok, but truthfully he never reach. The whole of Uyo where the developments in Akwa is concentrated is like Ikeja and oregun only. I can't comprehend how a sane individual will compare a state with over 15million people to one with 2.5million people. 5. Medical road near computer village is being upgraded. Ayinke House inside LASUTH is being reconstructed. 6. You can compare Fashola's performance to that of any governor you like in Nigeria I think its fair but ask yourself 'why are millions of people not rushing down to take up residence in those states? As large as the population of Lagos is everyone has hope of survival. 7. You open your stinking mouth and talk about IGR, did your retardeen and his past mumu PDP thugs know what could be generated from TAX if not for what Lagos achieved. In saner climes people are jailed for years for evading tax, it is only in Nigeria that people will complain that tax enforcement is anti people. 8. If an american comes to Nigeria and sees Lagos he'll ask if their is government here, true but imagine if what Fashola did especially during hos first tenure is repeated over a period of time with a federal government that has foresight, I see Nigeria taking a leap. That will be without individuals who can't appreciate a one eyed man in the midst of blind people. At least the one eyed man still dey see. That's what's Fashola is compared to all others. 9. Lagos has on several occassions undertaken the rehabilitation of Federal roads, pls I don't even have time to start typing the ones I know but so that u know sha I'll mention abule egba part of the Lagos-Abeokuta express, the Ijaye part etc Even if Lagos is building with PPP doesn't it make sense to make things work differently abi haven't we seen what the almighty PDP can do in the centre with their IPP? Abeg, make I go sleep. I'll see what the mumu PDP a.rse lickers will type 2moro. |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by emiye(m): 12:59am On Dec 27, 2012 |
thelastPope: Akwa Ibom collects at least 4 times what Lagos state earns in Federal allocation (oil revenue + VAT). A population of 4 million vs 18 million. The infrastructures are over stretched, Lagos state has the highest population density in Nigeria. With the longest network of city roads, Road degrades faster, thanks and no thanks to the volume of vehicles, especially heavy duty vehicles due to the commercial status of the state. That average 30 billion you claim Lagos generates as IGR takes ingenuity and hardwork to generate, whereas Akwa-ibom collects roughly that same amount with a "big bowl" monthly from FG with no work in the name of Fed. allocation being an oil producing state. Lagos State is 99% urban vs Akwa ibom that is 50% urban. An urban populace expectation from the government is way way higher, everybody wants high grade infrastructural quality and verrrrrrrry very difficult to impress. When people make comparism, make sure it is fair, so as not to sound stupppid |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by seunajia: 8:09am On Dec 27, 2012 |
talktimi: . Number one I have never said Fashola didn't do anything in Lagos state, I am a born and bred Surulere guy and I know how Lagos was while growing up and I know how it is now as for your aspect of me being in jail by now because of the supply contracts I managed to get, I doubt your street credibility in Lagos because one thing I was taught while growing up in Aguda was how to be independent so in the worst case scenario, you might actually be a mummy's boy eating daddy's money which makes you hate those that learnt the ropes the hard way so I won't apologise to you for any reason whatsoever. I'm not Fashola's P.R.O and thus there is little I can/should say in his stead. You know its possible you have been walking around without your eyes or probably your brain is not sophisticated enough to process what your eye "sees". Get help bro. If "street cred" is chop and clean mouth, I want to have none of it. I don't hate you, I hate to be in my car and see beggars all over, I hate to see unemployed youths roaming the streets, I hate the sound of generators, I hate driving on bad roads, I hate nepotism, I hate corruption, I hate injustice, I hate hypocrisy. You keep assuming, a thief has no respect and deserves none. A man that feeds #1billion/year deserves no respect, a man that approves a building, a building for #19billion in the midst of all the austerity deserves to be dragged in the streets. I can go on and on. |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by ba7man(m): 12:45pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
I belive @Proffruleoflaw,Emiye and Seunaija Have said it all. |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by anulaxad(m): 1:02pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
talktimi: I'm in a quagmire here as I don't know whether to keep silent or join you in your gutter. But you're very funny sha, its obvious you were not properly brought up by your parents hence your lack of respect for elders and those in authority its also obvious that your educational foundation is very poor hence your bad placement of words and malapropism making it slightly difficult to understand your rantings. I can't tell you not to insult me as its entirely up to you to do what you will I only asked that you show some modicum of respect for those in authority.listen mr.fobtimi your comments are irrelevant. do you know why? Firstly I am not taking an English test am I no. Secondly I do not need you out of all the bast ards in your family to tell me my English is bad when I am even born and breed in London(England) where your language that you use to comment with is from,kmt. Thirdly since an illiterate like you can not understand simple basic English even if I am writing 'crazily', I have spaced out my my writing so you can understand. And last but least it is your father that lives at my local gutter where my excess waste goes to bast ard |
Re: The Truth About Fashola's Success by pheesayor(m): 1:27pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
anulaxad: you live festac my uncle lives there do you know mr.adenuga not (mike adeunuga )lol, is he a teacher? |
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