Lt.-Col. Ojukwu: If every Region wants to go its own way and think one day we will meet again, I feel that it may not work properly.... On immediate re-organisation, one would like to see first of all proper command and control. Secondly, we all agreed that most of the soldiers in each Region should come from that Region. The East and the Mid-West are lucky they have all their people there, unfortunately in the West, I have not got enough Westerners in the place and the people in the West are very afraid now because a lot of their own people were killed during January, July and August. I have tried to clear the fear from them but still they insist on having more Yorubas than they have at the moment. [size=14pt]I know there are not enough Yorubas in the Army and those who are there are mostly tradesmen.[/size] I do not want to disrupt other units, but from what I said when we last met in Lagos, we can find an immediate solution to the Yoruba problem. That is, try and continue on the normal quota business which we started in Zaria and as a crash programme we should use Abeokuta area as a crash programme training centre for Westerners, for Mid-Westerners who cannot go to Zaria and possibly for the Easterners who cannot go to Zaria at the moment. I still feel very strongly about this, this is the only way to clear the problem of the Yorubas and this is the only way we can get the confidence of the people of the West because they feel they are the only people now being helped because there are not enough Yorubas in the Army.

T9ksy:


Of course, yorubas have never fought major war. Why should i listen to an i.diot like you who reckons a 16 year war is a wrestling contest. I don't know anywhere in the history of this planet where a group of people have wrestle for 17yrs with the attendant loss of thousands of lives.

Yeah of course, old oyo was moved to new oyo but you in your inherently impish manner omit to mention how we gave the same sokoto caliphate a bloody nose at the battle of oshogbo in 1840. Since then we live in mutual respect of each other but you ibos have never fought any major war of repute. Even the british who colonised us all did not refer to the yoruba wars as a wrestling contest. Maybe they could not differentiate between a war and a wrestling contest but you who have never fought any, can.

T9ksy: Old man, abeg just don't go there jo!!! We have been through this discourse many times in the past and till date you and your sidekick ACM10 have not been able to produce any shred of evidence to buttress your wild allegation.

If you have any shame, you won't be regurgitating this same old fallicious tales as the yorubas have been vindicated by what Awo accomplished in western region. Zik could not even achieved the same thing for his people so why should we expect him to do anything in the same vein for the yorubas, his main rival.

Dede1:


You are ridiculously idiotic to even insinuate that everybody is ignorant of geography as Yooba peeps. Ordinarily, an overfed fool should easily realize that the distance from Illorin to Oshogbo covers a considerable acreage and citing of retreat to Oshogbo a coward’s delight.

You are an imbecilic nincompoop to mention a wrestling matches of 16 years as war. The so-called Kiriji was a mere seek and hide play among the Yooba peeps. In the inflated joke, who did the Yooba fight? Anyway, any group of people who remotely believed they are decedents of one goofy fellow who fell from the sky can assume wrestling matches were wars.

Dede1:


I have long submitted you are a marooned numbskull who tend to provide ropes to hang yourself. My previous post was cull from the source link you foolishly provided to back your idiotic plank that one Mr. Ebube Dike suddenly became NCNC. I am not surprised you have once again proved to be a dumbass selective reader.

Onlytruth:

ONE CLEAR MAJOR observation by Gowon, which everybody in the room acknowledged and Ojukwu strategically wanted to surmount by insisting that every regional governor must agree to any central governments recommendation before being accepted as law. The Yoruba did not have minimal representation in the army. Infact according to the quote above, they had mainly TRADESMEN (whatever that means!).
So, Aburi would have served them perhaps more than the Easterners and Midwesterners that had enough military personnel.
But if an independent observer (a non-Nigerian) were to observe constant taunts by some Yoruba Nairalanders, he/she would have thought that Nigerian army of that time was dominated by Yoruba.

I'm happy to see some smart Yoruba folks accepting that Ojukwu was right.

Dede1:


You are ridiculously idiotic to even insinuate that everybody is ignorant of geography as Yooba peeps. Ordinarily, an overfed fool should easily realize that the distance from Illorin to Oshogbo covers a considerable acreage and citing of retreat to Oshogbo is a coward’s delight.

You are an imbecilic nincompoop to mention a wrestling matches of 16 years as war. The so-called Kiriji was a mere seek and hide play among the Yooba peeps. In the inflated joke, who did the Yooba fight? Anyway, any group of people who remotely believed they are decedents of one goofy fellow who fell from the sky can assume wrestling matches were wars.

T9ksy:









Source=======>http://www.dawodu.com/benson2.htm

T9ksy:


Its unfortunate that Ojukwu didn't fight as assiduously as he did at aburi when his kinsman Ironsi foisted centralised govt on the rest of us with so much as a plebscite. Rather he went on air the following day bragging about how he is going to export many of his kinsmen to the north to take up govtal post in the region. Anyway, at what price was ojukwu willing to fight against a "too powerful central govt"? Certainly, not with his life but the life others excluding of course, his immediate family members. Only "animals" resolve any disagreement (with their peers) with violence as they can't really articulate their thoughts and wishes etc. to others.

T9ksy:

If ebube Dike was not NCNC then he must have been AG.............now who is a dumbass selective

reader, then? seems like its your good self, sir.

Dede1:

You are pathetically laughable. Anyway, you are not a stranger to me. I guess humans can be absolved from their fallibility when incapable of discerning a seemingly conflict among them.

Katsumoto:

"The federal government attempted to implement the Aburi agreement in diluted form by enacting a modified Constitution (Suspension and Modification) decree (decree cool which turned Nigeria into a de facto confederation, but which did not incorporate ALL of the agreements reached at Aburi. Federal civil servants argued that to implement all of the Aburi agreements would lead to the dissolution of the federation. ojukwu declined to accept the initial draft of the decree and insisted on a full and complete implementation of the Aburi accords.

As the weaker party, could ojukwu still have showed greater pragmatism to spare further suffering for his people? Even with its flaws, decree 8 gave him 90% of what he wanted. The U.S. State Department was “impressed by extent to which decree 8 appears to meet many of East's fundamental demands for much greater regional autonomy. While recognizing that it stops short of granting everything ojukwu wants, Dept. considers decree represents genuine effort by FMG and other Mil Govs to implement Aburi agreements and to retain Nigerian unity in form which least objectionable to East…..Consulate Enugu has reported that some prominent and moderate Easterners may incline toward above view".

WINNER TAKES ALL – NIGERIA’S MALAISE

In the “winner takes all” mentality that is so symptomatic of Nigerian politics, ojukwu unrealistically held out for 100% of his demands and in the end, received 0%. His refusal to be tactically flexible by considering options other than secession, placed him and his people in a worse position than they started in. Rather than turning Nigeria into a confederation (which is what decree 8 did), ojukwu’s give no inch stance gave the federal government an opportunity to overrun the Eastern Region, carve the country into several states and concentrate massive powers in the central government."

http://www.pointblanknews.com/Special_Reports/os4390.html

Dede1:

Ebube Dike was not NCNC but a member of NCNC. The actions of Ebube Dike on the floor of western regional House of Assembly did not encompass the collective policy of NCNC or its leadership.

Katsumoto:

Oyo empire was never based at Ilorin. Afonja was based at Ilorin; Ilorin fell not through a military campaign. You should know that. Oyo relocated from Katunga to New Oyo after Katunga was raided by the Nupe. The retreat was strategic as it meant the capital wouldn't be so close to the North. What is instructive to note is that Oyo under Alaafin Ofinran recaptured Old Oyo and Alaafin Orompoto would defeat and capture Nupe land.

Your comments about Kiriji expose your ignorance and/or hatred of those who have a more distinguished military pedigree than you.

Dede1:



Who said Oyo Empire was based in Ilorin? The seat of power of Oyo Empire was situated 30 miles north of Ilorin. Whether the alleged retreat was tactical or outright defeat in the hands of Sokoto Caliphate or Nupe Kingdom, the fact remains that 30 miles north of Ilorin to Oshogbo is considerable of land mass to give up as a tactical retreat.

I have fought wars with machine guns and assault rifles including pistols. It is within my educated pedigree and practical experience to declare that Kiriji wrestling matches were cases of gbomogbomo.

Dede1: I have fought wars with machine guns and assault rifles including pistols. It is within my educated pedigree and practical experience to declare that Kiriji wrestling matches were cases of gbomogbomo.

dayokanu:



Dendemoron Would you drop your PS3 console and go back to sleep?

Dede1: Dayolodo

I suggest you shut up your putrid mouth, agbaya. Everybody is not an idle Joe such as you.

Onlytruth:

You have a very dark soul, and I have decided to interact as little as possible with dark souls henceforth.

History states that Ojukwu never planned nor wanted war. He went to Aburi and painstakingly negotiated a peaceful settlement (an internationally supervised Accord) to end the Nigerian crisis.
Everybody, including Gowon, signed onto that Accord happily, raised glasses, hugged and all the rest, only for Gowon to return to Nigeria to trash the Accord. History also recorded that Gowon was the first to order a military action against Eastern Nigeria. All these are facts. Ojukwu never initiated any war; Gowon did.

History also shows that Ojukwu was given a burial which even Nigerian presidents never got. His fame is all over Africa and people like Jerry Rawlings graced his funeral. His coffin was carried by GENERALS in the Nigerian army. These are FACTS.

Now, lets wait for your hero Gowon to die, and lets compare notes then.

Bye.

dayokanu:

Dendemoron Kedu maka ahia, How markate, You sef dey talk say you don see machine gun? See him mouth like Cow anus. (E wo enu e bi obo Maalu)

You think we are discussing about XBOX 360 here?

Pistol ko Pistorius ni

Dede1: Dayolodo

Do not mess with a marksman such as me. I do 2inches cluster from 25.

dayokanu:

See your head if them give you gun I sure say you go handle am with upside down. Dende Schwarzenneger or is it Arnold Schwarze-dende

dede1: You are an imbecilic
nincompoop to mention a
wrestling matches of 16 years
as war. The so-called Kiriji was
a mere seek and hide play
among the Yooba peeps. In
the inflated joke, who did the
Yooba fight?

T9ksy: Agabya, oshogbo was the site where the combined forces of the yorubas headed by ibadan confronted the jihadists in 1840 and were fully trounced. Its truism that the old oyo empire was destroyed by the jihadists but the yorubas regrouped at new oyo and fought their enemies to a standstill and since then they never trouble the yorubas, again.

I suppose the brits who regarded the kiriji war in their records as "war" are imbecilic nincompoop too but a flatheaded bushman whose ancestors have never been known to fight any major war is one to listen to.

dayokanu:

The bolded is very true. Imagine for example a man like Ojuku a common war criminal who should be hung at the stakes and stoned for leading 3million people to their death and when things got hot Fled in the middle of the night leaving the vulnerable to their fate is being hailed as a Hero

Very unfortunate

Tolexander: grandpa, good evening sir!
From your post above, you asked who yooba fought? Yoruba is an entity like nigeria is also an entity.
Can we now say nigeria also didn't fight any war in 1967-1970 since nigeria didn't fight any country?
Thank you sir as you are thinking of answering me with humility.

Katsumoto: It has been almost 20 hours, yet no Biafran can articulate the provisions of Aburi that were not addressed by Gowon's Decree 8 of 1967. After 45 years of blaming Gowon for the Civil war, Biafrans should know the provisions of Aburi by heart.

All they have been pointing out is that not all provisions from Aburi were implemented. Gowon, from a position of strength, acceded to most of Ojukwu's demands. Yet Ojukwu, from a position of weakness, rejected approximately 90% of his demands to hold out for 10% (HOS not having the power to fire regional governors). And in the process millions of people died with Ojukwu escaping to avoid capture. Biafrans need some deep introspection.

kingoflag:
"History shows that Ojukwu never planned or wanted war" ?
Go read what Western Analysts have said about the periods preceding the war. Not saying igbo civilians deserved the treatment meted out to them--- I'll never agree to that---- but Ojukwu obviously tried to call Nigeria's bluff, thought hed made enough alliances and certainly went to Aburi with every intention of going to war if EVERYTHING he wanted was not given to him.
Ojukwu wanted to be a President within a country ruled over by another President ----how the hell is that possible?