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Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by eggheaders(m): 9:16pm On Jun 01, 2013 |
ngozievergreen: your shyte main question is what exactly that yorubas ain't manufacturing things. I gave you pottery and craftmanship even to fix common rat hole in your kitchen you need to import people from south west. essential service are so expensive in your region cause no one is picking up craftsmanship. ain't willing to school you in aviation matters since you have not been to any airport before anambra does not own one. go figure why ngo settled the debt and her elevation in the internation banking thieves organization afterwards and why obj kick her out. you must be so dense to say nigeria coporate world is failed you know how much mtn and the oil guys rakes annually. pre civil war you guys ain't controlling nada. same igbo south east governors that shares the worst governors spot with northern governors. even running Alaba market is like a tug of war for your folks here. you really need to go read oby lectures at unn convocation to cure your ignorance of who pushed you back to debts. since her challenge how many of the gej p.r guys has been able to man up to her debate |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by Nobody: 9:24pm On Jun 01, 2013 |
ba7man: Oh....so its no longer "Thanks to the Igbo"?? I was just following his line of reasoning. |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by SmartTalk: 9:27pm On Jun 01, 2013 |
na2day!: Wrong, India and Pakistan have been disagreeable nations. India was partitioned before independence because the Moslem Indians wanted a separate state and the partitioning at a point was ratified by an Indian-majority congress! Ghandi might have been against partitioning, but it was the only way. The partitioning of India was a necessary solution and should have been copied in Nigeria. The fact is the Hindus and Sikhs are mortal enemies of the Moslems in India, it is too facile to say the British caused separation. There were reprisal killings of Sikhs after the assassination, but were there expropriation of properties? And besides, the Sikhs would rather leave with the Hindus than the Moslems. That is why the Sikhs would not ask for secession. And the comparison is ridiculous. In the case of the Sikhs, was there a deliberate policy of ethnic cleansing like there was against the Igbos? For a populous country like India, 25000 doesn't even compare proportionally with the number of Igbo people killed during the pogroms, either in percentage terms or nominal terms. It's like suggesting the Jews should have remained part of Nazi Germany during and after the Holocaust, that's plain ludicrous. |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by ba7man(m): 9:32pm On Jun 01, 2013 |
nnenna.1:No problem dear. Your name shows you're Igbo but frankly i have nothing against Igbos. But as with every tribe, there are two kinds. (1) The nice, de-tribalized ones, there are a lot that grew up in Lagos and i see them as Lagosians. (2) The lousy, dumb, boastful ones that utter statements that can put the whole tribe in trouble. I guess its hate stories told to them about the civil-war that has transcended generations. |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by SmartTalk: 9:32pm On Jun 01, 2013 |
London-X: Exactly. Several nations, even small ones with economies as large as half of Africa, have sprung up in Europe. Self determination is the only way to prosperity on the African continent. |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by SmartTalk: 9:53pm On Jun 01, 2013 |
ba7man: I thought the Igbos were responsible for making Lagos what it?? Oh, now its the colonials. You guys have a false impression of yourselves. Apart from Ladipo,Computer Village and Alaba market, your perceived dominance ends....Places Fashola is even planning to destroy and re-Construct. Just be thankful we're good hosts and move on with life, if Lagos was in the north and the Northerners read all you say on NL, just pack your bags and run cuz lives will definitely be lost. Wow, I thought I was explicit on that post. Oh well, let me break it down so that you can understand. I was responding to someone posting pictures of Lagos before Nigeria. That means Lagos was what it was at that time because of the colonials. And even then, the colonials pooled resources from other parts of Nigeria to fund infrastructural development in Lagos. Now, we have independence, a huge part of what Lagos is today is thanks to the contribution of other parts of Nigeria, and yes that includes the Igbo. I hope you get it now. And it seems you see the North as an example worth following. While the Igbo do participate in the Northern economy to the level that they are allowed, I would not use the North as any kind of yardstick. But if you want the SW to resemble the North, be my guest. Just start with your own state before you decimate Lagos. That would give us time to sell all our assets in Lagos and leave it for you. And I think it is the residents of Lagos, from whatever origin, that should be thankful for investments from entrepreneurs, not the other way round. |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by SonOfEl(m): 10:12pm On Jun 01, 2013 |
ba7man: I thought the Igbos were responsible for making Lagos what it?? Oh, now its the colonials. You guys have a false impression of yourselves. Apart from Ladipo,Computer Village and Alaba market, your perceived dominance ends....Places Fashola is even planning to destroy and re-Construct. Just be thankful we're good hosts and move on with life, if Lagos was in the north and the Northerners read all you say on NL, just pack your bags and run cuz lives will definitely be lost. shame on you trash talker. Igbos are in large numbers in virtually 99 percent of all markets in lagos, both formal and informal, from emzor pharmaceuticals to aswani market. The areas you mentioned as just some densely igbo areas which also includes market areas in oshodi, island, apapa cargo/container ports, idumota, mile 2 motor market, ojuwoye/idi-oro, nollywood outfits, etc. Igbo run a larger percentage of trade and commerce in lagos, take it or leave it, punk. |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by ba7man(m): 10:12pm On Jun 01, 2013 |
SmartTalk:You sound reasonable. My post was directed at an individual that posted that dumb notion that "Igbos own Lagos and what not" but i'm glad you agree its a collective effort. I do not see the North worth emmulating, I find their habit of being so quick to kill barbaric......but it goes out to your tribes men that say they're dominating and trash about the very region that welcomed them and hosts them. You don't do that.....not when you live and do business in their midst. The unguarded utterances of a few can put even the large number of innocent at risk. |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by SmartTalk: 10:28pm On Jun 01, 2013 |
ba7man: You sound reasonable. My post was directed at an individual that posted that dumb notion that "Igbos own Lagos and what not" but i'm glad you agree its a collective effort. I do not see the North worth emmulating, I find their habit of being so quick to kill barbaric......but it goes out to your tribes men that say they're dominating and trash about the very region that welcomed them and hosts them. You don't do that.....not when you live and do business in their midst. The unguarded utterances of a few can put even the large number of innocent at risk. I am less interested in chest thumping. I want secession, but not just to prove a point. But because I have meditated over the Nigerian condition and I know the country is just not meant to be. We are wasting too much time trying to prove supremacy over each other that we cannot see the mud we are all in together. And I know it will not end. That is why I say let us kuku separate so we can all see it is not the man from another village that is the source of our problems. It is the clown who distracts us with Igbo presidency as his own campaign policy. A dismembered Nigeria would have the component nations struggle for investments from each other, unlike the way it makes us resent the "outsider" that comes from another state. The British and the French are talking of rolling out the red carpet for each others' entrepreneurs. This would not be the case if they were one country. That is what I need us all to discuss and that is why I started this thread www.nairaland.com/1248907/preparing-east-post-nigeria-future And I think trying to punish a group for the annoyance of a few is why we had the "final solution" policy by Hitler. I see upsetting comments by people from other ethnic groups, but I don't think I should punish the rest of them for it. It is a human frailty to think that way, but it is dangerous. |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by SonOfEl(m): 10:48pm On Jun 01, 2013 |
ba7man: No problem dear. Your name shows you're Igbo but frankly i have nothing against Igbos. But as with every tribe, there are two kinds. (1) The nice, de-tribalized ones, there are a lot that grew up in Lagos and i see them as Lagosians. (2) The lousy, dumb, boastful ones that utter statements that can put the whole tribe in trouble. I guess its hate stories told to them about the civil-war that has transcended generations. excuse me mr. Categorizer, i am detribalized, yet an unapologetic igbo. Don't you bring the civil war issue here as though its some historical grub, genocide is not something igbos will forget in a hurry, it has emotional and psychological scars attached to it, esp. with what postwar nigeria has sadly become, ask the jews and tutsis. Igbos have given much more to lagos than what you project us to have given. |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by Eziachi: 10:58pm On Jun 01, 2013 |
defashan: South East (ibos) will suffer the most.Nice to know prophet that you can see veryy clear on this issue. They are scattered all over the world because their place is not habitable.Scattered or reside all over the world? Which part is uninhabitable for you since you have never left the village you was born, to cross the Niger? Their behaviours will catch up with them and they will suffer xenophobic attacks.Which behaviour is that? The Americans, British, Gabonese or the Cameroonians are not complaining. In fact, the biggest market in Cameroon is officially named Biafra market. You need to get out of your village sometimes. Port harcourt ikwerre will deny them and they will be landlocked like uganda etc.infact south south will deny them,they will seek support from ika people of delta and found none.We must be on the same page with your sentiment as AWORI people of Lagos will also deny you, infact Benin republic or ADEBAYORS of Togo will deny you as well, you will seek support from iTSHEKIRI people of Delta and you will found non, while the Ijaw hacked into Ondo by Justice IRIKIFE/OBJ in their boundary adjustment magic of the 70s to make Ondo over night oil producing area will run back to the rest of their people. Prices of food will skyrocket there cos they dont give priority to agriculture..You knew this fact because the people of Abakaliki, Ohaozara, Nteje, Afikpo, Ezza, Agbo, Ohaji have all retired from farming and now works in the casinos. Bad leadership and internal squabble will consume them.Yes bad leadership and internal squabbles like the ones that kick starts the Nigerian progrom of the 60s like Awo vs Akintola, Awo vs Akinjide/Akintolye/Abiola of 1979, Ajasin vs Aomoboriowo, Oluloye vs Bola Ige, Adedibu vs the rest, Oni vs Alafin, Ife vs Madekeke,Ibadan vs Ogbomosho etc. Their elite will return to USA and uk leaving the uwazurikes,chris uba and the orji kalus to finally set the whole place on fire.Yes your living elites stays in exile, thinking that Abacha is still alive, while the likes of OBJ, Tinubu,Gov Oni, Fayose, Tafa Balogun will continue to smoother themselves with love and kisses with each other.While the dead love ones like Bola Ige, Abiola, funsho williams, Dr Daramola, Dipo Dina etc will be resurrected to a new life of no assassins. Crime will be rampant,it will be free for all.Yes, the first and the last Nigerian executed at the Bar beach by Buhari/Idiagbo govt for drug trafficking, Oyelusi the first Nigerian to face public execution for armed robbery will all be resurrected into the open arm of Tokyo, saint Bode George, right honorable senator Omisire to make sure you remained the only crime free country in the world. Eventually they will beg Nigerians to forgive them but it will be too late.This fantasy begging of yours might never happen ever, unless Iraqi Kurds might as well ask Saddam to come back to life and rule them again. 4 Likes |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by Nobody: 11:18pm On Jun 01, 2013 |
Willywilly4: I got no family on here. You still aint answer my question. |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by seunny4lif(m): 12:50am On Jun 02, 2013 |
Eziachi:Pls,get ur fact right...Am from Ilaje/Ikale man in ondo state and u need to visit there to get ur story right...Go to igbotako and call dem ijaw,na ur only ur head go return.... |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by pazienza(m): 4:43am On Jun 02, 2013 |
Wow! Was really impressed by our anioma brothers. You guys are too much, igboland can never be complete without anioma. You guys are the bomb! Chai! Even a brother from Oyigbo contributed. Our enemies thought they could divide us,but it's obvious that they have failed. I can't wait for the republic of Alaigbo,i have no doubt in my heart that it would be a better a country than nigeria. Igbo amaka. 4 Likes |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by rosebowl01(m): 5:56am On Jun 02, 2013 |
To settle all this matter and prove to the Yorubas that you are the ones "developing the economy" and "superior", why can't the Igbos simply abandon Lagos and SW, and relocate East. In a few years(say 5), we'll know who is right after all. 1 Like |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by geeez: 6:12am On Jun 02, 2013 |
rosebowl01: To settle all this matter and prove to the Yorubas that you are the ones "developing the economy" and "superior", why can't the Igbos simply abandon Lagos and SW, and relocate East. In a few years(say 5), we'll know who is right after all. Spot on but how can they when the SW is like the USA in their eyes. It's interesting that the GDP of all the SW states minus Lagos is higher than the GDP of all the SE states put together. To add Lagos will be over killing it. Also the landmass of Oyo State alone is almost as large as that of all the SE states put together. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by elOnuh(m): 6:52am On Jun 02, 2013 |
Trust me,non wl suffer. D one u may be tinkin wl suffer may happens to b d sole surviving one. Greed makes some state depend a lot more on national cake dan making do wt endowed environ. By d time 9ja balkanize,na dia u go c hw these states go xploit dia natural wealth. |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by MightySparrow: 7:50am On Jun 02, 2013 |
Son-Of-El: Where are they? Emagwuli who was trained.in Akure SW ngozi Okonjo - Iweala trained in International school, Ibadan and a host of them. How many are trained from Onitsha or Aba market? Name any patented invention of igbo man home or abroad. |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by dandollaz: 8:08am On Jun 02, 2013 |
Another Biafra war in digital.My fellow Igbo bros n sis u people will start seeing what Ojukwu went tru wit this Yoruba people.saboteurs |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by SonOfEl(m): 9:27am On Jun 02, 2013 |
Mighty Sparrow: check this out- cyprian emeka uzoh, scores and scores of US Patents in electroplating and semiconductor technology. new york inventor of the year 2006. His inventions has broadened the modelling of laptops, handsets, microchips, computers, ipads, etc. Do i need to mention the nwangwus, etc? I'll get facts on them. Stay tuned. |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by SonOfEl(m): 9:42am On Jun 02, 2013 |
Mighty Sparrow: ben enwonwu- world renowned artist and sculptors- Govt college umuahia. Christopher okigbo- world renowned poet. - govt coll. Umuahia. Chinua achebe- world iconic novelist, poet, essayist, professor, and critic.- govt college umuahia. Want more? |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by Nobody: 9:47am On Jun 02, 2013 |
eggheaders: still havent answered my main question and u went ahead to write rubbish just because u think u have to reply me or else it means defeat. Am talking of the positive input yorubas put in oil industries dat u didnt even create and u are asking me weda i know how much d workers earn. Nnaa, u are on a long thing. D real Baboons. just leave dat management of Foreign companies in Nigeria that u inherited from igbos because that is the height of your inefficiency. Give me sth tangible. When u are ready to ansa me, tell me. Then u also give me evidence to prove easterners are not leading in education now. |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by eggheaders(m): 10:16am On Jun 02, 2013 |
ngozievergreen: madam definitely you lack brains mehn. are you this dumb or you just pretending to be so?? foreign oil firms ain't complaining of the yorubas managing their affairs that why they ain't closing shop or relocating you asked for yorubas impact in this firm I referred you to get a copy of their annual turnovers and see maybe they are making profit or not. igbos ain't managing Jack shyte except their shops in Alaba and okirika trade. your best administration bull crap talk is so evidence in the ways your governors are turning your states to hell-holes. if your next post is as dumb as this one I won't be honuring you with a reply. education evidence ain't a big deal go to various nysc orientation camps nationwide and go decipher the lingual franca in this places. and go compare the amount of graduates in okitipupa with the whole of anambra and come here with your result. 1 Like |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by ifechez: 10:16am On Jun 02, 2013 |
django1: chineke!!! femi Johnson 20 storeys high? wetin man no go read from these amala people. that house is not even taller than kamo plaza or st Peter's plaza in onitsha. 20 my left nyash |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by Emperor007: 10:18am On Jun 02, 2013 |
pazienza: Wow! Was really impressed by our anioma brothers. You guys are too much, igboland can never be complete without anioma. You guys are the bomb! ^^^ Gbam , noted. . |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by Willywilly4: 12:28pm On Jun 02, 2013 |
kingoflag:So you have rejected your brother because he is poor man throw way. |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by Balkan(m): 12:34pm On Jun 02, 2013 |
eggheaders:let make some clarification to you. An Igbo man is the last person to ask your tribe when dealing with anybody both in business and in employment . They always allow merit to supersede any kind of favouritism . Yorubas trive more in boad room politics and power play. Mediocrity is their second name. Back biting and tribalism. That is why most companies they are at the head always go bankrupt . What is their fear? You guys know very well that an Igbo man will floor you and make you worthless wherever there is competition. It's this mediocrity tha has kept Nigeria in this situation. Check out the ministers appointed by Nigeria government and check their scorer card. Igbos are moving and driving the economy of Nigeria. Very soon you will know where the power lies in a state. Those tribes that have ruled Nigeria for decades dont have anything to show for it in their regions. To be the president does not make your tribe any better. What ever a Yoruba man steals from the government will always end up in an Igbo mans pocket. Unless you want to chew the cash and swallow it raw. You will end up buying one thing or the other computers, cars , electronics ,wears, building materials, stationery, name any thing you can think of and I will tell you that Igbos are behind it. Check the statistics of investment eg properties, plazas, hotels, shops, name anything you can think of in ABUJA that does not belong to an Igbo man. I don't want to talk about Lagos state because we have reclaimed it. Guy you need to advice yourself wisely. Those jobs that are making you think you are doing well are other people's business foreign companies and they can lay you off anytime the want. Start your own biz. Today 1 Like |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by 4chi: 12:45pm On Jun 02, 2013 |
Balkan: Let me teach you slowpoke a little bit of Lagos state history. Commodore Ndubisi Kanu, 1977-1978, Commodore Ebitu Ukiwe 1978 -1979. All these are Igbo men that governed Lagos state. You seem to be ignorant of your surroundings. You are a finished tribe, deal with it. We are in Lagos the way other tribes are in Lagos. We have come to claim back our possession your people tried to elude us during the war. Their is nothing your envy can do for you. Lagos is an Annex of Igbo land, try to live with it. You cant stop a moving train. We are dominating and intimidating you in your so called state are you not ashamed? The hatred fow the Jews all over the middle east is because the can tun sand into gold. We are the Jews my brother deal with That You checked?? Pray,what manner of parental upbringing makes you lie through your teeth like this? What is it with ibos and lying? IMO STATE Adekunle lawal 1977-1978 Sunday ajibade Adenihun 1978-1979 ENUGU STATE Adewunmi Agbaje 1998-1999 ABIA Moses Fasanya 1996-1998 EBONYI Simeon Oduoye1998-1999 Now cover your lying face and curse your lousy upbringing... 2 Likes |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by Gbawe: 12:55pm On Jun 02, 2013 |
Balkan: let make some clarification to you. An Igbo man is the last person to ask your tribe when dealing with anybody both in business and in employment . They always allow merit to supersede any kind of favouritism . Yorubas trive more in boad room politics and power play. Mediocrity is their second name. Back biting and tribalism. That is why most companies they are at the head always go bankrupt . I really don't want to get into the pettiness of all this ridiculous conjectures you guys are throwing around but I must ask why people like you talk like this. I.e in a manner that show you have no qualms lying about reality we can all easily discern. Why do you blatantly ignore facts and issues on the ground to base all your utterances on fantasy and conjecture? I am not here to tell you what Igbos are or are not but I can say what the Yorubas are not. They are not mediocre as some of you postulate. It is only that many Yorubas here don't know how to shut your ilk up with facts and this is why this redundant lie you tell yourselves has travelled amongst your fellow ignoramuses to now be unquestioningly accepted as the truth by people always keen to tout their own mythical superiority and the "worthlessness" of others as they were indoctrinated to do. As just one example of the many I can give, Oando was voted best Company in Nigeria in 2012. This is a thriving Company teaching others, including Igbo-owned businesses, how to run Companies. Do you, your father or brother own or run the Company? Why should we have this Oando situation if Yorubas are "mediocre" at running businesses and Igbos are masters at it? Should this touted superiority not reveal itself consistently 100% of the time? The sad thing for clowns like you is that Oando is not even the exception !!! People like you personally sicken me. You are welcomed to hate others as much as you like because of how you are indoctrinated but that indoctrination turns into mental illness of sort when you are willing to embrace a strategy of lies aimed at reducing a universally celebrated and respected people to zero simply to uphold your own inane and self-deceitful braggadocio led mainly by inferiority complex. It is only people like you that sickeningly come without the ability to even minimally give credit where due to others because you indoctrination in hatred is total and all-consuming to the extent of encompassing blatant and wicked lies. Even on this wretched forum where folks like you have no shame and are never called out for inane and malevolent lies against others, what notable superiority of intelligence or thinking have members from your ethnic group displayed here to validate your silly, misguided and childish lies about superiority that facts and reality show is only in your head? Let go of the hatred of others and start respecting them. It may have been drummed into you to hate the Yorubas but you cross the line when you start representing them as "mediocre" and with other similar false unsavoury tags to suit your own psychotic and highly unreasonable world view. Nonsense !!!!! You and others are sick !!! Simply the sort to say Mohammed Alli could not box or Michael Jackson could not entertain because you have been indoctrinated blindly to reason like that !!! http://premiumtimesng.com/business/3922-oando_is_nigeria_s_best_oil_and_gas_company.html Oando is Nigeria 3 Likes |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by 4chi: 12:56pm On Jun 02, 2013 |
rosebowl01: To settle all this matter and prove to the Yorubas that you are the ones "developing the economy" and "superior", why can't the Igbos simply abandon Lagos and SW, and relocate East. In a few years(say 5), we'll know who is right after all. That is exactly what a wise man will do, but the "industrious" ones will rather thatch the roof of another man's compound. Sincerely,one feels nothing but pity for these hopeless souls. Should everyman go back to his tent, the queue at the odua embassy in iboland( if there's going to be any) will be longer than river Niger. Ibos,seriously need to cleanse their barren,landlocked forsaken land that daily spews forth it's children to foreign lands while it lies desolate, 2 Likes |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by Willywilly4: 12:59pm On Jun 02, 2013 |
Subsidy Children stop Crying |
Re: Who Suffers If Nigeria Divides? by LondonX: 1:01pm On Jun 02, 2013 |
Lmao... Yoruba's are getting angrier by day. The other side better watch-out before shiit hits the fan cos when that happens; it'll be deeper than rap. You can only taunt people for so long, especially people who stand taller than you in all ramifications based of reality and not chest-beating conjectures. |
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